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Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings Damu'Khonde
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Posted - 2012.09.30 01:18:00 -
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ISD Suvetar wrote:Paul Oliver wrote:Thank you to all the ISD for a job well done. Great, It's 2am and now I want Barbecue; Thanks Paul! Guess what I'm having for dinner? Rifterlings - small gang frigate PvP - low/nullsec operations, newbie-friendly, free ship program; Join today! www.rifterlings.com
Accidentally The Whole Frigate (blog) - Learning how to pew pew, one loss at a time - www.thewholefrigate.com |
Bart Starr
Aggressive Structural Steel Expediting Services
62
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Posted - 2012.09.30 05:17:00 -
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I believe this forum was better served without them. But the EVE-O forums had already 'jumped the shark' when they switched to the new fail-format and abandoned the old forums.
That being said, ISD Suvetar is the one that makes me throw up in my mouth the least. |
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
1750
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Posted - 2012.09.30 05:41:00 -
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Bart Starr wrote:I believe this forum was better served without them. But the EVE-O forums had already 'jumped the shark' when they switched to the new fail-format and abandoned the old forums.
That being said, ISD Suvetar is the one that makes me throw up in my mouth the least. Get out |
Paul Oliver
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
4421
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Posted - 2012.09.30 05:41:00 -
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Jake Warbird wrote:Bart Starr wrote:I believe this forum was better served without them. But the EVE-O forums had already 'jumped the shark' when they switched to the new fail-format and abandoned the old forums.
That being said, ISD Suvetar is the one that makes me throw up in my mouth the least. Get out Hehe you guys have the same backgrounds.
Its good to be Gallente. |
Bart Starr
Aggressive Structural Steel Expediting Services
62
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Posted - 2012.09.30 05:42:00 -
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Jake Warbird wrote:Bart Starr wrote:I believe this forum was better served without them. But the EVE-O forums had already 'jumped the shark' when they switched to the new fail-format and abandoned the old forums.
That being said, ISD Suvetar is the one that makes me throw up in my mouth the least. Get out
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Theangryhobo
Hobo Industries Inc Corcoran State
103
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Posted - 2012.09.30 05:47:00 -
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I approve of the ISD and all they do. Now if only I could join them......I'd delete everything! Mwahahahah!
No but seriously, keep up the good work please. Hobo Industries Inc is recruiting |
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
1750
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Posted - 2012.09.30 05:50:00 -
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Paul Oliver wrote:Jake Warbird wrote:Bart Starr wrote:I believe this forum was better served without them. But the EVE-O forums had already 'jumped the shark' when they switched to the new fail-format and abandoned the old forums.
That being said, ISD Suvetar is the one that makes me throw up in my mouth the least. Get out Hehe you guys have the same backgrounds. Yea. He is my cuckoo step-brother, who needs me to occasionally get him in line.
e: oh,you meant our avatars.. Ah.. |
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
576
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Posted - 2012.09.30 06:00:00 -
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All evil begins with censorship. We now return you to your regularly scheduled **** poast. |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
665
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Posted - 2012.09.30 08:33:00 -
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Not bad for volunteers I guess, even if I don't agree with the concept. Mining Barge buff: CCP-áhas acknowledged that miners in general-áare too stupid to make the correct fitting choices to make ganking them unprofitable. |
ctx2007
Wychwood and Wells Beer needs you
149
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Posted - 2012.09.30 10:31:00 -
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Yeah well done guys |
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Roime
Shiva Furnace Dead On Arrival Alliance
1284
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Posted - 2012.09.30 10:44:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Discussion of moderation is against the rules. If ISD were actually interested in being consistent they'd lock this thread.
This level of dumb is why ISDs are needed.
I agree with Petrus (seems to happen very often!), the forums work better now.
Gallente - the choice of the interstellar gentleman |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
665
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Posted - 2012.09.30 10:51:00 -
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Roime wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Discussion of moderation is against the rules. If ISD were actually interested in being consistent they'd lock this thread. This level of dumb is why ISDs are needed. I agree with Petrus (seems to happen very often!), the forums work better now.
No, ISD's are not needed. You don't get the same quality of work from volunteers that you do from paid employees. ISD's in many cases have shown themselves to be heavily biased towards various people & threads. This is most noticable when a constructive thread is closed which doesn't break any rules.
I've also noticed lately that CCP have been stepping in more & more to moderate threads, which further reinforces the point that ISD's are not needed. Mining Barge buff: CCP-áhas acknowledged that miners in general-áare too stupid to make the correct fitting choices to make ganking them unprofitable. |
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ISD Suvetar
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
167
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Posted - 2012.09.30 11:16:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote: No, ISD's are not needed. You don't get the same quality of work from volunteers that you do from paid employees. ISD's in many cases have shown themselves to be heavily biased towards various people & threads. This is most noticable when a constructive thread is closed which doesn't break any rules.
I've also noticed lately that CCP have been stepping in more & more to moderate threads, which further reinforces the point that ISD's are not needed.
Having put in close to 47 hours this week, I'm inclined to disagree entirely. Also, I am incredibly serious about my teams ability to be impartial.
If you have any evidence of this bias or these closed constructive threads (that haven't already been discussed) then please either report them or petition them, I assure you it will be investigated with the utmost importance.
Thanks and fly safe! ISD Suvetar Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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ISD TYPE40
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
1301
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Posted - 2012.09.30 11:50:00 -
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ISD Suvetar wrote:Lady Spank wrote:Thanks for the times you have done a good job. Hopefully you can get that up to 100% sometime. From the bottom of my heart, one-hundred percent - Amen. This is my dearest wish for the CCL team. Thank you.
This is who I will be going to for advice, as well as ISD Eshtir. They both do a great job and I look to both them, and my fellow ISD members for support and advice.
I'm still new, and still have a lot to learn, but I sincerely hope that by following their lead I can be an effective part of the team. I love this community, it's an extended family for me in the realest possible sense, and as with any family I want to help look after it as best I can. ISD Type40 Lieutenant Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
665
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Posted - 2012.09.30 11:52:00 -
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ISD Suvetar wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote: No, ISD's are not needed. You don't get the same quality of work from volunteers that you do from paid employees. ISD's in many cases have shown themselves to be heavily biased towards various people & threads. This is most noticable when a constructive thread is closed which doesn't break any rules.
I've also noticed lately that CCP have been stepping in more & more to moderate threads, which further reinforces the point that ISD's are not needed.
Having put in close to 47 hours this week, I'm inclined to disagree entirely. Also, I am incredibly serious about my teams ability to be impartial. If you have any evidence of this bias or these closed constructive threads (that haven't already been discussed) then please either report them or petition them, I assure you it will be investigated with the utmost importance. Thanks and fly safe!
I'm not really taking a stab at ISD's themselves (Did that, came out second best, then things started changing), I'm more taking a stab at CCP for you know... Getting rid of the people who were already doing an awesome job at moderation because they wouldn't work for free, then replacing them a year later with people who would. If it isn't broken, don't fix it. Mining Barge buff: CCP-áhas acknowledged that miners in general-áare too stupid to make the correct fitting choices to make ganking them unprofitable. |
San Severina
Hoplite Brigade
35
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Posted - 2012.09.30 12:04:00 -
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ISD Suvetar wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote: No, ISD's are not needed. You don't get the same quality of work from volunteers that you do from paid employees. ISD's in many cases have shown themselves to be heavily biased towards various people & threads. This is most noticable when a constructive thread is closed which doesn't break any rules.
I've also noticed lately that CCP have been stepping in more & more to moderate threads, which further reinforces the point that ISD's are not needed.
Having put in close to 47 hours this week, I'm inclined to disagree entirely. Also, I am incredibly serious about my teams ability to be impartial. If you have any evidence of this bias or these closed constructive threads (that haven't already been discussed) then please either report them or petition them, I assure you it will be investigated with the utmost importance. Thanks and fly safe!
47 hours here? Destroying the forum? get a job, you could be earning some money, having a career. It's either incredibly naive or incredibly dishonest of you to think your team is impartial. All ISD's are being exploited by CCP & I think it's a disgrace. Imagine a any other million $$ corporation palming off such important work on incompetent volunteers.
My advice to all ISD's is wake up, realize you're being exploited & quit. We don't need you, we don't want you & I and many others don't like you! Why take a job like that as a volunteer? Even traffic Cops get a wage & benefits. & if you're doing 47 hours of this crap to please CCP for free, I suggest you get legal advice, because you should sue the sobs. |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
665
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Posted - 2012.09.30 12:13:00 -
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San Severina wrote:ISD Suvetar wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote: No, ISD's are not needed. You don't get the same quality of work from volunteers that you do from paid employees. ISD's in many cases have shown themselves to be heavily biased towards various people & threads. This is most noticable when a constructive thread is closed which doesn't break any rules.
I've also noticed lately that CCP have been stepping in more & more to moderate threads, which further reinforces the point that ISD's are not needed.
Having put in close to 47 hours this week, I'm inclined to disagree entirely. Also, I am incredibly serious about my teams ability to be impartial. If you have any evidence of this bias or these closed constructive threads (that haven't already been discussed) then please either report them or petition them, I assure you it will be investigated with the utmost importance. Thanks and fly safe! 47 hours here? get a job, you could be earning some money, having a career.
Actually, I'm inclined to believe that they already do. I'm not against the volunteer moderators (except when they really screw up), I'm against the concept of volunteer full-time moderation. Mining Barge buff: CCP-áhas acknowledged that miners in general-áare too stupid to make the correct fitting choices to make ganking them unprofitable. |
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ISD Eshtir
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
178
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Posted - 2012.09.30 12:23:00 -
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San Severina wrote:ISD Suvetar wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote: No, ISD's are not needed. You don't get the same quality of work from volunteers that you do from paid employees. ISD's in many cases have shown themselves to be heavily biased towards various people & threads. This is most noticable when a constructive thread is closed which doesn't break any rules.
I've also noticed lately that CCP have been stepping in more & more to moderate threads, which further reinforces the point that ISD's are not needed.
Having put in close to 47 hours this week, I'm inclined to disagree entirely. Also, I am incredibly serious about my teams ability to be impartial. If you have any evidence of this bias or these closed constructive threads (that haven't already been discussed) then please either report them or petition them, I assure you it will be investigated with the utmost importance. Thanks and fly safe! 47 hours here? Destroying the forum? get a job, you could be earning some money, having a career. It's either incredibly naive or incredibly dishonest of you to think your team is impartial. All ISD's are being exploited by CCP & I think it's a disgrace. Imagine a any other million $$ corporation palming off such important work on incompetent volunteers. My advice to all ISD's is wake up, realize you're being exploited & quit. We don't need you, we don't want you & I and many others don't like you! Why take a job like that as a volunteer? Even traffic Cops get a wage & benefits. & if you're doing 47 hours of this crap to please CCP for free, I suggest you get legal advice, because you should sue the sobs.
Hello,
i will make this as most as transparent as i can for you:
*) Most of us have full time jobs, others are students. *) We are volunteers as you stated correctly. We have not been forced to sign up, nor is CCP standing behind us with a whip. *) As we signed up on our own free will, we do not have a need for legal actions against CCP. *) As for being biased and impartial, i would encourage you to send your proof to [email protected] *) It is ok to not like us. We have no hard feelings towards you irregardless. *) As long as CCP wants us to be part of their game, we will be here and work under their guidelines and policies.
To the OP, thank you for your words, they are appreciated.
ISD Eshtir Vice Admiral Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
578
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Posted - 2012.09.30 18:52:00 -
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Quote:Also, I am incredibly serious about my teams ability to be impartial.
I LOL'd.
Sorry for your loss. From: Tommas De'Wins To: Cipher Jones Dude :) I got massives Basi hahahahahahaha |
lanyaie
540
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Posted - 2012.09.30 18:59:00 -
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Hmm yeah the ISD's lock my threads too fast now and hide my posts when they don't like them :( Hay |
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ISD Suvetar
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
170
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Posted - 2012.09.30 19:01:00 -
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Cipher Jones wrote:
I LOL'd.
Sorry for your loss.
Thanks for selective quoting, but I refer you to Eshtir's post above mine - If you have proof then please contact CCP.
There's no way we can move forward as a community if you're just going to harbour all this mistrust for the CCL and hold it against us when ever we try to do anything right.
If you want transparency then you need to be open with us and stop hammering on that we're biased and unfair.
ISD Suvetar Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Caviar Liberta
Moira. Villore Accords
18
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Posted - 2012.09.30 19:06:00 -
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ISD Suvetar wrote: But please stop slapping each other about over it.
But it can be so much fun.
Slap, Smacks and Pokes
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Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
667
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Posted - 2012.09.30 19:09:00 -
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ISD Suvetar wrote:Cipher Jones wrote:
I LOL'd.
Sorry for your loss.
Thanks for selective quoting, but I refer you to Eshtir's post above mine - If you have proof then please contact CCP. There's no way we can move forward as a community if you're just going to harbour all this mistrust for the CCL and hold it against us when ever we try to do anything right. If you want transparency then you need to be open with us and stop hammering on that we're biased and unfair.
From what I've seen recently, most of the thread closures are justified & it's only very rarely that someone pulls a Stensson. Mining Barge buff: CCP-áhas acknowledged that miners in general-áare too stupid to make the correct fitting choices to make ganking them unprofitable. |
Mara Rinn
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
1871
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Posted - 2012.09.30 19:32:00 -
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ISD Eshtir wrote:*) It is ok to not like us. We have no hard feelings towards you irregardless.
irrespective or regardless: pick one and stick with it :P
Thank you for keeping the trolls under control.
Day 0 advice for new players: Day 0 Advice for New Players |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
668
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Posted - 2012.09.30 19:37:00 -
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Mara Rinn wrote:ISD Eshtir wrote:*) It is ok to not like us. We have no hard feelings towards you irregardless. irrespective or regardless: pick one and stick with it :P Thank you for keeping the trolls under control.
Trolling is ok when performed properly & in moderation (no pun intended), but most people who try to troll are just terrible posters. Mining Barge buff: CCP-áhas acknowledged that miners in general-áare too stupid to make the correct fitting choices to make ganking them unprofitable. |
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