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Cyno Kidd
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
12
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Posted - 2012.10.04 11:48:00 -
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Marlona Sky wrote:Cerebral Wolf wrote:Do you think it being free to play will help it compete with those titans? While there is a couple games here and there that do well with a payed subscription model (hello EVE) online gaming is shifting hard towards free to play games. Staying free to play is critical for DUST to stand a chance against titles that are seasoned veterans in the FPS market. I know most of you are PC4LYF players, and that is fine, but you can not pretend that the console market, especially FPS, is not a market juggernaut. It is a force of epic proportions. Make no mistake, DUST will need to consistently dazzle and blow away players minds. For the amount of battles and such that needs to happen for DUST to function properly with massive amounts of back to back matches there is only one gaming platform that will be able to deliver that and it is NOT on the PC. Hate me forever if you want, but the vast majority of FPS players are doing it on a console and loving it. The fewer battles that happen in DUST, the less of an impact EVE and DUST can have on each other. Then again I believe those of you who are afraid of new and different things (cowards in my eyes) want exactly that. Little to zero connection with each other. It is time for you to welcome DUST with open arms and provide real solid and meaningful feedback so both games can survive and thrive.
Buy me a console and I will consider giving DUST a couple of minutes. I don't like to be restricted like this. If I don't buy a console, I can't play DUST. OK, I don't play it then, more time for Eve. |
Cat Troll
Systems Federation Coalition of Galactic Unity
11
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Posted - 2012.10.04 11:54:00 -
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Graic Gabtar wrote:Is this game even slated for release any time in the next couple of years?
Is there a chance it's going to end up like Twilight Online?
...numbness of the skin... I think they said something about near the end of 2012 to early 2013? But even after release, its going to be slowly integrated into EVE, and not all at once. I think its a game that will start poorly but slowly grow into something worthy of the EVE universe.
Cyno Kidd wrote:
Buy me a console and I will consider giving DUST a couple of minutes. I don't like to be restricted like this. If I don't buy a console, I can't play DUST. OK, I don't play it then, more time for Eve.
For some reason, I just have the feeling that you're butthurt over Dust being PS3 exclusive. But its probably just your past posts and the tone I imagine in my head you are speaking in that makes me believe that. Lolwut: "Yes, you kids don't know how lucky you have it. These days noobs get given free tackle ships for PvP but back in the old days the only tackle ships we were given were our pods. We had to use them to bump their rookie ships out of alignment to stop them warping off." |
Irya Boone
Escadron leader
55
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Posted - 2012.10.04 11:55:00 -
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I don't play it then, more time for Eve
This is why CCp didn't want to make it a PC game ... maybe ONE day people will understand the did'nt Want to make eve players quit eve for dust ... !!!! clear for everyone NOW ? :x
Me i Think DUST is coming too earlier they should have been doing a system of avatar ( Incarna) for abordeable structures then Abordeable planets .. aand after a time create DUST ( dust players =aliens ? sanshas? ) and put the battlefield on planets
Eve players against dust players factions Vs factions etc etc but not that crapy cooperative intergame Bullshit.... Improve C2 class WH More anos more signs ...RENAME null sec system With the name Of REAL Universe Stellar Name like KOI-730 etc etc It xill be awesome-á |
Cat Troll
Systems Federation Coalition of Galactic Unity
11
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Posted - 2012.10.04 11:59:00 -
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Irya Boone wrote: I don't play it then, more time for Eve
This is why CCp didn't want to make it a PC game ... maybe ONE day people will understand the did'nt Want to make eve players quit eve for dust ... !!!! clear for everyone NOW ? :x
Me i Think DUST is coming too earlier they should have been doing a system of avatar ( Incarna) for abordeable structures then Abordeable planets .. aand after a time create DUST ( dust players =aliens ? sanshas? ) and put the battlefield on planets
Eve players against dust players factions Vs factions etc etc but not that crapy cooperative intergame Bullshit.... Hmmm.... EVE players being on planets for PI reasons, and during attacks their character would be stuck on the planet until they are either saved by the defenders or killed by the attackers. That would be a cool thing. Maybe add some penalty to it, so it wont be like "lol I died, so what". Tho its not worth losing SP over, so I don't know what penalty it should have. Lolwut: "Yes, you kids don't know how lucky you have it. These days noobs get given free tackle ships for PvP but back in the old days the only tackle ships we were given were our pods. We had to use them to bump their rookie ships out of alignment to stop them warping off." |
Cerebral Wolf
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
25
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Posted - 2012.10.04 12:00:00 -
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Graic Gabtar wrote:Is this game even slated for release any time in the next couple of years?
Is there a chance it's going to end up like Twilight Online?
...numbness of the skin...
Expect it to be released this year, i do.
So the general feeling is that you're not console or FPS players and thus have no interest in Dust. Does the possibility of what this could bring with it not interest that many people?...
Even as an EVE player and does not like console FPS games the thought of trolling all those consoles kiddies should be exciting shouldn't it?.. Or even the point that CCP is treading new, unexplored ground? Something like this has never been attempted before and that does not interest you?
The community around Dust is actually pretty good so far and even the console kiddies are very interested in it, it's got a large portion of the M.A.G community involved already and that was quite the niche little FPS on the PS3 too. There's certainly going to be a good number of non EVE playing loyal customers and that's shown through already.
I personally feel CCP's business model with it will be the same as EVE's, a small userbase to start with and add subscriptions or whatever to it over time as the meta game gets more complex, people hear about it more and most importantly, as new features are added to the game like what's happened with EVE. |
Cerebral Wolf
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
25
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Posted - 2012.10.04 12:01:00 -
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Irya Boone wrote: I don't play it then, more time for Eve
This is why CCp didn't want to make it a PC game ... maybe ONE day people will understand the did'nt Want to make eve players quit eve for dust ... !!!! clear for everyone NOW ? :x
Me i Think DUST is coming too earlier they should have been doing a system of avatar ( Incarna) for abordeable structures then Abordeable planets .. aand after a time create DUST ( dust players =aliens ? sanshas? ) and put the battlefield on planets
Eve players against dust players factions Vs factions etc etc but not that crapy cooperative intergame Bullshit....
Please, at least attempt to write in english so i can understand what you're talking about. |
Cat Troll
Systems Federation Coalition of Galactic Unity
11
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Posted - 2012.10.04 12:07:00 -
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Cerebral Wolf wrote:Graic Gabtar wrote:Is this game even slated for release any time in the next couple of years?
Is there a chance it's going to end up like Twilight Online?
...numbness of the skin... Expect it to be released this year, i do. So the general feeling is that you're not console or FPS players and thus have no interest in Dust. Does the possibility of what this could bring with it not interest that many people?... Even as an EVE player and does not like console FPS games the thought of trolling all those consoles kiddies should be exciting shouldn't it?.. Or even the point that CCP is treading new, unexplored ground? Something like this has never been attempted before and that does not interest you? The community around Dust is actually pretty good so far and even the console kiddies are very interested in it, it's got a large portion of the M.A.G community involved already and that was quite the niche little FPS on the PS3 too. There's certainly going to be a good number of non EVE playing loyal customers and that's shown through already. I personally feel CCP's business model with it will be the same as EVE's, a small userbase to start with and add subscriptions or whatever to it over time as the meta game gets more complex, people hear about it more and most importantly, as new features are added to the game like what's happened with EVE. It should also be taken into account the fact that there are more console players on the PS3 than there are players on the PC. So even if Dust had the same percentage of players that EVE has of the PC players, it would already be around 2-3mil active players, or at minimum 1mil. Now taking into account that 5 percent of those would buy Aurum at the worth of lets say, 20 dollars (which is what the statistics show about other F2P games), then they already got a hefty amount of money from this game, which means that they can get more employees to work on both EVE and Dust. Win win
Cerebral Wolf wrote:Irya Boone wrote: I don't play it then, more time for Eve
This is why CCp didn't want to make it a PC game ... maybe ONE day people will understand the did'nt Want to make eve players quit eve for dust ... !!!! clear for everyone NOW ? :x
Me i Think DUST is coming too earlier they should have been doing a system of avatar ( Incarna) for abordeable structures then Abordeable planets .. aand after a time create DUST ( dust players =aliens ? sanshas? ) and put the battlefield on planets
Eve players against dust players factions Vs factions etc etc but not that crapy cooperative intergame Bullshit.... Please, at least attempt to write in english so i can understand what you're talking about.
Well, what I understood is that the reason they don't put Dust on the PC is to make sure EVE doesn't lose players to dust.
Edit: I just noticed my horrible grammar. Please try to understand what I'm saying, I haven't slept all night, and when that happens my grammar decides to go to sleep without me. Lolwut: "Yes, you kids don't know how lucky you have it. These days noobs get given free tackle ships for PvP but back in the old days the only tackle ships we were given were our pods. We had to use them to bump their rookie ships out of alignment to stop them warping off." |
Irya Boone
Escadron leader
55
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Posted - 2012.10.04 12:12:00 -
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but your forgot to mention that there is a lot of FPS on console people playing that kind of game love their Multiplayer cessions but not sure they Will love an MMOFPS .. i think maybe 1million people will play the game the first 3 weeks .. after that ..... Improve C2 class WH More anos more signs ...RENAME null sec system With the name Of REAL Universe Stellar Name like KOI-730 etc etc It xill be awesome-á |
Robert De'Arneth
82
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Posted - 2012.10.04 12:15:00 -
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I stopped buying Sony products after SWG, I will never buy anything that has to with Sony, since Dust is on a Sony Platform, I will never play it. |
Pix Severus
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
190
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Posted - 2012.10.04 12:24:00 -
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If Dust fails, we'll end up with yet another mechanic/system in Eve that's hardly ever used, along with Captain's Quarters, Lowsec, Planetary Interaction, and level 4 drone missions.
I want Dust to succeed, I really do, but I'd like to stay pessimistic for now so my heart isn't crushed later. |
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Lord Leftfield
The Society Calyxes
20
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Posted - 2012.10.04 12:27:00 -
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I just heard this from my cousin (After a couple hours stoned at my house, playing dust on two screens and two playstations) "Damn dude, I ******* gonna go buy my self a playstation. How much they cost now?"
I rest my case, lol.. Looking forward to release |
Minmatar Citizen160812
The LGBT Last Supper
39
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Posted - 2012.10.04 12:49:00 -
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Incarna on planets with guns?....which would have been an amazing expansion for eve. Instead they went with the console crowd and will pay for it in the short term until the PC version is released. |
Muad 'dib
The Imperial Fedaykin
536
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Posted - 2012.10.04 12:51:00 -
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dual boxing eve wasnt hard enough, so now we have dualboxplatform.
WTB 3rd arm! http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/4375/mynewsig2.jpg |
Rek Seven
Probe Patrol Project Wildfire
441
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Posted - 2012.10.04 13:00:00 -
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Pix Severus wrote: we'll end up with yet another mechanic/system in Eve that's hardly ever used, along with Captain's Quarters, Lowsec, Planetary Interaction, and level 4 drone missions.
lol yeah because no one runs level 4 missions. stupid They see me trolling, they hating... |
Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
148
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Posted - 2012.10.04 13:01:00 -
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I'm cautiously optimistic for its effects on Eves future and would consider buying a PS3 just to give it a go as long as i could find one on the cheap somewhere. |
Muad 'dib
The Imperial Fedaykin
537
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Posted - 2012.10.04 13:09:00 -
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Darek Castigatus wrote:I'm cautiously optimistic for its effects on Eves future and would consider buying a PS3 just to give it a go as long as i could find one on the cheap somewhere.
well word on the street is that since dust is fully down loadable, all you need is a PS3 with a good hard disc, so broken blu ray drives wont matter and so make the unit cheap on ebay etc, but ive not looked into it properly. http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/4375/mynewsig2.jpg |
Myxx
Minmatar Death Squad Broken Chains Alliance
603
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Posted - 2012.10.04 13:10:00 -
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As long as we can suicide gank them from orbit, im fine with them. |
Lord Ryan
True Xero
683
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Posted - 2012.10.04 13:13:00 -
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Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:We just really don't care, it's a console shooter for console tards. As long as they stay on their side of the tracks (the crappy side) so we don't have to actually see them we can coexist As a console tard I still don't care about Dust. So yeah Meh. Do not assume-áanything above this line-áwas typed by me. Nerf the Truth, it's inconvenient. Nerf it cause I can't fly it. I want to fly a badass Mon Calamari stlye-ácruiser painted to match my Tron clothes. |
Jim Era
4130
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Posted - 2012.10.04 14:09:00 -
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I think Dust breaks the RP in EVE and completely shuts down all interest in New Eden for me. I returned the ps3 I bought to play Dust because it gave bad light to the EVE universe. |
Alpheias
Euphoria Released Verge of Collapse
813
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Posted - 2012.10.04 15:03:00 -
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My thoughts on Dust? About the same when CCP thought WiS was teh ****. I'd kill kittens and puppies and bunnies I'd maim toddlers and teens and then more |
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Cerebral Wolf
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
26
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Posted - 2012.10.04 15:18:00 -
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Jim Era wrote:I think Dust breaks the RP in EVE and completely shuts down all interest in New Eden for me. I returned the ps3 I bought to play Dust because it gave bad light to the EVE universe.
How so? |
Jim Era
4144
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Posted - 2012.10.04 15:39:00 -
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Cerebral Wolf wrote:
How so?
Well, the different suits. I started an Amarr and automatically came equipped in a Gallente, or a Caldari suit. Joining a battle almost always would pit me up against the Ministry of War, an Amarr corp. It would have me working for some shitstain of a corp belonging to the Minmatar. Those two main points cripple the game for me. The other things are too small to mention and could easily be overlooked if I just did not have to deal with non-Amarr races.
I know it really seems silly and trivial...but the Amarr are the reason I started playing EVE...that and to play Dust as an Amarr. |
RomeStar
Astra Research
48
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Posted - 2012.10.04 15:40:00 -
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I played the beta and thought this is not going to end well for CCP imo. Any game on the planets should have been a real time strategy game not just some stupid FPS. Lets us build civilizations on these planets and rule them instead of just using them as target practice. Leave the FPS for station warfare imo. Signatured removed, CCP Phantom |
Josef Djugashvilis
635
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Posted - 2012.10.04 15:45:00 -
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Cerebral Wolf wrote:Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Dust 514?
So long as CCP does not lose money on it, I know little and care less.
Those who wish to play Dust 514 will, and those of us who do not wish to, will not. But what if it starts to effect your game play experience in EVE?
Fair point. I shall as ever, adapt. Too old, tired and ugly to care. |
Asuka Solo
Stark Fujikawa Stark Enterprises
1706
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Posted - 2012.10.04 15:59:00 -
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When Dust gets a PC conversion... then this game will register on an emotional level.
Until then, I support other people having fun with it. Expand the Universe, bring life and war to planets. No complaints. |
Skydell
Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums
295
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Posted - 2012.10.04 16:03:00 -
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Cerebral Wolf wrote: So the general feeling is that you're not console or FPS players and thus have no interest in Dust. Does the possibility of what this could bring with it not interest that many people?...
Even as an EVE player and does not like console FPS games the thought of trolling all those consoles kiddies should be exciting shouldn't it?.. Or even the point that CCP is treading new, unexplored ground? Something like this has never been attempted before and that does not interest you?
The community around Dust is actually pretty good so far and even the console kiddies are very interested in it, it's got a large portion of the M.A.G community involved already and that was quite the niche little FPS on the PS3 too. There's certainly going to be a good number of non EVE playing loyal customers and that's shown through already.
I personally feel CCP's business model with it will be the same as EVE's, a small userbase to start with and add subscriptions or whatever to it over time as the meta game gets more complex, people hear about it more and most importantly, as new features are added to the game like what's happened with EVE.
I'm all for possibilities. EVE corporations making foot prints on the planets of EVE. The possibilities are endless. Of course most of them will become pipe dreams too. I don't know if CCP can pull off another pie in the sky promise with EVE players. We have been tot he sky. There is no pie. |
Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
1123
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Posted - 2012.10.04 16:13:00 -
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Jim Era wrote:Cerebral Wolf wrote:
How so?
Well, the different suits. I started an Amarr and automatically came equipped in a Gallente, or a Caldari suit. Joining a battle almost always would pit me up against the Ministry of War, an Amarr corp. It would have me working for some shitstain of a corp belonging to the Minmatar. Those two main points cripple the game for me. The other things are too small to mention and could easily be overlooked if I just did not have to deal with non-Amarr races. I know it really seems silly and trivial...but the Amarr are the reason I started playing EVE...that and to play Dust as an Amarr.
Gawd. Now dare this beta group you via corp due to location on earth to have better testing experience. Or be limited to specific suit mixtures so people wont be spread out over a bunch of redundant suits when you only need to test the base scout suit stats rather than caldari scout, minmitar scout, amarr scout... Minmitars only race to have and be logi? Yeah, that's going to happen. Even after launch I doubt all the art will be provided. The only buildings anyone has seen in Dust are Caldari. Why? Because art is not gameplay.
The only thing to really be concerned about is weapons. Don't think they are going for a sidearm/med/heavy weapon system for every race for default setups.
Yet its as complete as EvE 1.0 was. So there are still tons of things to add later. |
veii matar
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.10.04 16:13:00 -
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lot of "i don t have a ps3 so its a fail, crap ....." poor guys, work a few and buy a ps3...stop rage...
dust 514 its very good. |
Jim Era
4145
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Posted - 2012.10.04 16:21:00 -
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Roll Sizzle Beef wrote:
Gawd. Now dare this beta group you via corp due to location on earth to have better testing experience. Or be limited to specific suit mixtures so people wont be spread out over a bunch of redundant suits when you only need to test the base scout suit stats rather than caldari scout, minmitar scout, amarr scout... Minmitars only race to have and be logi? Yeah, that's going to happen. Even after launch I doubt all the art will be provided. The only buildings anyone has seen in Dust are Caldari. Why? Because art is not gameplay.
The only thing to really be concerned about is weapons. Don't think they are going for a sidearm/med/heavy weapon system for every race for default setups.
Yet its as complete as EvE 1.0 was. So there are still tons of things to add later. I think too many treat it as a normal title that is tossed out at 90% feature complete then wait for DLC to complete it. It's really more like 20% feature complete and hope to see it expanded on for the next 5-8 years.
I don't care what it looks like. Just call it dropsuit instead of Gallente...I was stating it ruined the EVE feel. Why would an Amarr loyalist be caught wearing their enemies uniform? |
Borisk Zeltsh
Alcohlics Anonymous
18
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Posted - 2012.10.04 16:23:00 -
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ccp take income from one game put it into game with high probilty of failing
thats how i see it
and yes i play dust beta also |
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