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Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
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Posted - 2012.10.04 15:40:00 -
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The Dev responsible for wiping out drones in high sec PvE announced today that the dev had found that null sec plexes are "unbalanced" and is reverting back to the old AI with regards to null sec structures (torps, neuts, webs. etc)
But no changes are being entertained for high sec. Clearly, this is as close to a statement that this new AI was an attack explicitly designed to attack high sec.
Kelduum, you run a corp with 2000 players, most of who make their income doing high sec activities. Can you and Issler Dainze who supposedly represent high sec make some kind of public statement. I am not taking about breaking any NDA's, but this is all public domain now.
Say SOMETHING about this.
FIGHT for the people you represent. This new AI is the death knell for high sec income for a sizable amount of players. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
4800
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Posted - 2012.10.04 16:26:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:The Dev responsible for wiping out drones in high sec PvE announced today that the dev had found that null sec plexes are "unbalanced" and is reverting back to the old AI with regards to null sec structures (torps, neuts, webs. etc)
But no changes are being entertained for high sec. Clearly, this is as close to a statement that this new AI was an attack explicitly designed to attack high sec.
Kelduum, you run a corp with 2000 players, most of who make their income doing high sec activities. Can you and Issler Dainze who supposedly represent high sec make some kind of public statement. I am not taking about breaking any NDA's, but this is all public domain now.
Say SOMETHING about this.
FIGHT for the people you represent. This new AI is the death knell for high sec income for a sizable amount of players. The reversal was to stop tacklers being instad. It's a nerf for 0.0 pve, you moop.
MatrixSkye Mk2: "Remember: You consent to unconsensual PVP the moment you press the "Undock" button." |
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
323
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Posted - 2012.10.04 16:30:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:The Dev responsible for wiping out drones in high sec PvE announced today that the dev had found that null sec plexes are "unbalanced" and is reverting back to the old AI with regards to null sec structures (torps, neuts, webs. etc)
But no changes are being entertained for high sec. Clearly, this is as close to a statement that this new AI was an attack explicitly designed to attack high sec.
Kelduum, you run a corp with 2000 players, most of who make their income doing high sec activities. Can you and Issler Dainze who supposedly represent high sec make some kind of public statement. I am not taking about breaking any NDA's, but this is all public domain now.
Say SOMETHING about this.
FIGHT for the people you represent. This new AI is the death knell for high sec income for a sizable amount of players. The reversal was to stop tacklers being instad. It's a nerf for 0.0 pve, you moop.
Really.....amazing how you can reverse what the facts state. We really do live in Orwell's 1984. |
Dersen Lowery
Knavery Inc. StructureDamage
111
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Posted - 2012.10.04 18:03:00 -
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Are there high sec L4s where towers fire Citadel Torpedoes that do 160,000 points of damage? |
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
324
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Posted - 2012.10.04 18:06:00 -
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Dersen Lowery wrote:Are there high sec L4s where towers fire Citadel Torpedoes that do 160,000 points of damage?
I am not arguing the changes to the AI are pure death to null sec plexes. Anyone who has run null sec plexes with neut towers realizes that logistic ships are complete toast in these sites.
But that does not change the fact that changes are being rolled back to protect null sec income while high sec bears the full brunt of these changes. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
4800
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Posted - 2012.10.04 18:23:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Dersen Lowery wrote:Are there high sec L4s where towers fire Citadel Torpedoes that do 160,000 points of damage? I am not arguing the changes to the AI are pure death to null sec plexes. Anyone who has run null sec plexes with neut towers realizes that logistic ships are complete toast in these sites. But that does not change the fact that changes are being rolled back to protect null sec income while high sec bears the full brunt of these changes.
How will these changes make a difference to Joe Hi-Seccer in his CNR or Tengu? MatrixSkye Mk2: "Remember: You consent to unconsensual PVP the moment you press the "Undock" button." |
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
324
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Posted - 2012.10.04 18:38:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Dersen Lowery wrote:Are there high sec L4s where towers fire Citadel Torpedoes that do 160,000 points of damage? I am not arguing the changes to the AI are pure death to null sec plexes. Anyone who has run null sec plexes with neut towers realizes that logistic ships are complete toast in these sites. But that does not change the fact that changes are being rolled back to protect null sec income while high sec bears the full brunt of these changes. How will these changes make a difference to Joe Hi-Seccer in his CNR or Tengu?
You are right, this monstrosity will have ZERO effect for any high sec mission boat that uses zero drones.
But how about that Vargur that is in WC, 2nd room, where all his light drones been destroyed, he is scrammed, and his guns can't track the frigs scramming him from 5 km? And read the new blog about how with the new Crimewatch if you log off in a mission, your boat sits there for 15 minutes, so any active tank boat is auto-dead.
You won't be able to warp out to get new drones, and you won't be able log off to get new drones. If your tank can hold, you have to wait until downtime to get out of the mission once your small drones are dead. Otherwise, your active tanked gun boats is dead.
And the dev who created this disaster has already stated that NPC's will target objects of similar sig size, so NPC frigs will be naturally attracted to light drones over a battleship hull.
The high sec CSM reps should be screaming loud and long in GD, the features forums, Eve news. anywhere and everywhere. The only way to stop the null sec zealot agenda is to make as many players aware about this as possible. |
Temmu Guerra
Genco Fatal Ascension
85
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Posted - 2012.10.04 19:31:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Malcanis wrote:Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Dersen Lowery wrote:Are there high sec L4s where towers fire Citadel Torpedoes that do 160,000 points of damage? I am not arguing the changes to the AI are pure death to null sec plexes. Anyone who has run null sec plexes with neut towers realizes that logistic ships are complete toast in these sites. But that does not change the fact that changes are being rolled back to protect null sec income while high sec bears the full brunt of these changes. How will these changes make a difference to Joe Hi-Seccer in his CNR or Tengu? You are right, this monstrosity will have ZERO effect for any high sec mission boat that uses zero drones. But how about that Vargur that is in WC, 2nd room, where all his light drones been destroyed, he is scrammed, and his guns can't track the frigs scramming him from 5 km? And read the new blog about how with the new Crimewatch if you log off in a mission, your boat sits there for 15 minutes, so any active tank boat is auto-dead. You won't be able to warp out to get new drones, and you won't be able log off to get new drones. If your tank can hold, you have to wait until downtime to get out of the mission once your small drones are dead. Otherwise, your active tanked gun boats is dead. And the dev who created this disaster has already stated that NPC's will target objects of similar sig size, so NPC frigs will be naturally attracted to light drones over a battleship hull. The high sec CSM reps should be screaming loud and long in GD, the features forums, Eve news. anywhere and everywhere. The only way to stop the null sec zealot agenda is to make as many players aware about this as possible.
So now you have to be more aware of your drones and to take out the frigs right away. Pretty sure you have plenty of drones or just work on aggro management. Its time to adapt.
Really dont see this as a problem.
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corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
725
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Posted - 2012.10.04 19:43:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Dersen Lowery wrote:Are there high sec L4s where towers fire Citadel Torpedoes that do 160,000 points of damage? I am not arguing the changes to the AI are pure death to null sec plexes. Anyone who has run null sec plexes with neut towers realizes that logistic ships are complete toast in these sites. But that does not change the fact that changes are being rolled back to protect null sec income while high sec bears the full brunt of these changes.
No actually the changes trivialized nullsec plexes by letting you use flights of light drones as disposable tanks for that torpedo.
And uh, I have a vargur that I occasionally hop into when I'm bored enough to see how the plebes make money. I'm so lazy that I turn my guns on frigates first thing rather than use my drones on them, and as a result, frigates only rarely get close enough to get inside my tracking.
Morale of the story: Be lazy. Or just l2p. This post was crafted by a member of the GoonSwarm Federation Economic Cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online economics and gameplay.
fofofo |
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
325
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Posted - 2012.10.04 19:58:00 -
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corestwo wrote:Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Dersen Lowery wrote:Are there high sec L4s where towers fire Citadel Torpedoes that do 160,000 points of damage? I am not arguing the changes to the AI are pure death to null sec plexes. Anyone who has run null sec plexes with neut towers realizes that logistic ships are complete toast in these sites. But that does not change the fact that changes are being rolled back to protect null sec income while high sec bears the full brunt of these changes. No actually the changes trivialized nullsec plexes by letting you use flights of light drones as disposable tanks for that torpedo. And uh, I have a vargur that I occasionally hop into when I'm bored enough to see how the plebes make money. I'm so lazy that I turn my guns on frigates first thing rather than use my drones on them, and as a result, frigates only rarely get close enough to get inside my tracking. Morale of the story: Be lazy. Or just l2p.
Your signature says it all. A null sec zealot commenting on high sec is too easy. |
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Bagehi
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises Test Alliance Please Ignore
118
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Posted - 2012.10.04 20:49:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:corestwo wrote:Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Dersen Lowery wrote:Are there high sec L4s where towers fire Citadel Torpedoes that do 160,000 points of damage? I am not arguing the changes to the AI are pure death to null sec plexes. Anyone who has run null sec plexes with neut towers realizes that logistic ships are complete toast in these sites. But that does not change the fact that changes are being rolled back to protect null sec income while high sec bears the full brunt of these changes. No actually the changes trivialized nullsec plexes by letting you use flights of light drones as disposable tanks for that torpedo. And uh, I have a vargur that I occasionally hop into when I'm bored enough to see how the plebes make money. I'm so lazy that I turn my guns on frigates first thing rather than use my drones on them, and as a result, frigates only rarely get close enough to get inside my tracking. Morale of the story: Be lazy. Or just l2p. Your signature says it all. A null sec zealot commenting on high sec is too easy.
Yes, because you are either one or the other. Can't do stuff in null sec, low sec, and high sec. That would be breaking some kind of honor code or something. |
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
327
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Posted - 2012.10.04 21:10:00 -
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[quote=Bagehi
Yes, because you are either one or the other. Can't do stuff in null sec, low sec, and high sec. That would be breaking some kind of honor code or something.[/quote]
Oh man, this is so funny...first a goon, then a test, talking to me about high sec game mechanics. The only thing you want from high sec is for it to disappear.
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Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
2180
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Posted - 2012.10.04 21:16:00 -
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So it definitely means high sec PvEers will have to evolve. The biggest reason for the change is more about finally getting the better AI engine in place to make refinements going forward more practical. I've no doubt like every change we see in Eve getting it all working as intended will take some fiddling. So I 'm not surprised to see that we've seen the first attempt to get it all "right". I'd expect more noodling as well.
Eve is very very complicated and it isn't until you get something "live" that the full effect is evident.
Hope that clarifies my thoughts,
Issler |
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
327
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Posted - 2012.10.04 22:26:00 -
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Issler Dainze wrote:So it definitely means high sec PvEers will have to evolve. The biggest reason for the change is more about finally getting the better AI engine in place to make refinements going forward more practical. I've no doubt like every change we see in Eve getting it all working as intended will take some fiddling. So I 'm not surprised to see that we've seen the first attempt to get it all "right". I'd expect more noodling as well.
Eve is very very complicated and it isn't until you get something "live" that the full effect is evident.
Hope that clarifies my thoughts,
Issler
It does not clarify it for me. Are you saying regarding this first iteration of the AI overhaul, which means death to all high sec drone boats, that because Eve is complicated, you are OK with said death to all high sec drone boats, while the null sec plexers get a pass?
Is that a fair paraphrase of what you posted?
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RazielZian
Zian Industries Inc
0
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Posted - 2012.10.04 22:59:00 -
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As a toon who has used drone boats for high sec PvE for the last 6 years, I frankly do not see what the problem is.
Sure your drones are at more risk than before, you can no longer deploy your drones, switch on your tank and go read a book. But surely thats a good thing? Right?
The game has evolved, and will continue to evolve, not every change will be perfect right out of the gate, that sort of thing simply doesn't happen in a system as vast and complex as Eve.
The drone changes only mean that players who use drone boats, or drones as a method of counter-frig warfare will need to pay more attention to what is going on.
Times change, learn to evolve or die quietly. |
corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
727
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Posted - 2012.10.05 01:47:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:corestwo wrote:Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Dersen Lowery wrote:Are there high sec L4s where towers fire Citadel Torpedoes that do 160,000 points of damage? I am not arguing the changes to the AI are pure death to null sec plexes. Anyone who has run null sec plexes with neut towers realizes that logistic ships are complete toast in these sites. But that does not change the fact that changes are being rolled back to protect null sec income while high sec bears the full brunt of these changes. No actually the changes trivialized nullsec plexes by letting you use flights of light drones as disposable tanks for that torpedo. And uh, I have a vargur that I occasionally hop into when I'm bored enough to see how the plebes make money. I'm so lazy that I turn my guns on frigates first thing rather than use my drones on them, and as a result, frigates only rarely get close enough to get inside my tracking. Morale of the story: Be lazy. Or just l2p. Your signature says it all. A null sec zealot commenting on high sec is too easy.
"Foremost authority" means I'm right about everything, bro. This post was crafted by a member of the GoonSwarm Federation Economic Cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online economics and gameplay.
fofofo |
Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
2180
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Posted - 2012.10.05 02:28:00 -
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RazielZian wrote:As a toon who has used drone boats for high sec PvE for the last 6 years, I frankly do not see what the problem is.
Sure your drones are at more risk than before, you can no longer deploy your drones, switch on your tank and go read a book. But surely thats a good thing? Right?
The game has evolved, and will continue to evolve, not every change will be perfect right out of the gate, that sort of thing simply doesn't happen in a system as vast and complex as Eve.
The drone changes only mean that players who use drone boats, or drones as a method of counter-frig warfare will need to pay more attention to what is going on.
Times change, learn to evolve or die quietly.
What he said.
Issler |
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
327
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Posted - 2012.10.05 05:56:00 -
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Issler Dainze wrote:RazielZian wrote:As a toon who has used drone boats for high sec PvE for the last 6 years, I frankly do not see what the problem is.
Sure your drones are at more risk than before, you can no longer deploy your drones, switch on your tank and go read a book. But surely thats a good thing? Right?
The game has evolved, and will continue to evolve, not every change will be perfect right out of the gate, that sort of thing simply doesn't happen in a system as vast and complex as Eve.
The drone changes only mean that players who use drone boats, or drones as a method of counter-frig warfare will need to pay more attention to what is going on.
Times change, learn to evolve or die quietly. What he said. Issler
Wow, just wow.....I understand now some of the comments I have read about you. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
4808
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Posted - 2012.10.05 06:01:00 -
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So what you seem to be saying is, that if AFK drone missioning is less viable, that hi-sec missioners will be severely disadvantaged.
Is this some kind of satire or something? Are you straight up telling us that people who do missions as their game profession won't be able to cope? MatrixSkye Mk2: "Remember: You consent to unconsensual PVP the moment you press the "Undock" button." |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
4808
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Posted - 2012.10.05 06:02:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote: Are you saying regarding this first iteration of the AI overhaul, which means death to all high sec drone boats
~citation needed
MatrixSkye Mk2: "Remember: You consent to unconsensual PVP the moment you press the "Undock" button." |
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Nicolo da'Vicenza
Air The Unthinkables
1888
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Posted - 2012.10.05 06:31:00 -
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adapt or cry |
Prince Kobol
621
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Posted - 2012.10.05 07:25:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Issler Dainze wrote:So it definitely means high sec PvEers will have to evolve. The biggest reason for the change is more about finally getting the better AI engine in place to make refinements going forward more practical. I've no doubt like every change we see in Eve getting it all working as intended will take some fiddling. So I 'm not surprised to see that we've seen the first attempt to get it all "right". I'd expect more noodling as well.
Eve is very very complicated and it isn't until you get something "live" that the full effect is evident.
Hope that clarifies my thoughts,
Issler It does not clarify it for me. Are you saying regarding this first iteration of the AI overhaul, which means death to all high sec drone boats, that because Eve is complicated, you are OK with said death to all high sec drone boats, while the null sec plexers get a pass? Is that a fair paraphrase of what you posted?
How does the change mean death to all HS Drone Boats?
Do you mean its the death running missions afk in drones boats?
After all this is what the minority are complaining about.
They will lose the ability of afk running missions.. boo hoo
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
4808
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Posted - 2012.10.05 08:03:00 -
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That is seriously what he's hurttebutte about isn't it. AFK Drone boat missioning in hi-sec.
I mean god what an irreplaceable loss that will be to the list of EVE professions. CCP will have to go to youtube and delete all those adverts based on this playstyle.
Just a headsup, Mr Pirhana: CCP have an "AFK ISK making mechanism" already in place for you. Sell your NavDomi and buy a couple of Mackinaws. Now you can pay even less attention than ever before! MatrixSkye Mk2: "Remember: You consent to unconsensual PVP the moment you press the "Undock" button." |
corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
730
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Posted - 2012.10.05 17:30:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Issler Dainze wrote:RazielZian wrote:As a toon who has used drone boats for high sec PvE for the last 6 years, I frankly do not see what the problem is.
Sure your drones are at more risk than before, you can no longer deploy your drones, switch on your tank and go read a book. But surely thats a good thing? Right?
The game has evolved, and will continue to evolve, not every change will be perfect right out of the gate, that sort of thing simply doesn't happen in a system as vast and complex as Eve.
The drone changes only mean that players who use drone boats, or drones as a method of counter-frig warfare will need to pay more attention to what is going on.
Times change, learn to evolve or die quietly. What he said. Issler Wow, just wow.....I understand now some of the comments I have read about you.
All I'm hearing from you here now is "waaaah, the supposed representative for highsec doesn't see things exactly my way, what a horrible person!" This post was crafted by a member of the GoonSwarm Federation Economic Cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online economics and gameplay.
fofofo |
Rengerel en Distel
Amarr Science and Industry
449
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Posted - 2012.10.05 20:45:00 -
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I really wish the OP would stop all the histrionics. It takes attention away from what could actually be a problem, and make people just work against you. Actual drone boats may have a problem with the changes, but we can't know for sure until we can actually test the changes in 2 or 3 weeks.
As for those stating the changes nerf afk drone boats, it actually does the opposite, because repping your drones gives you aggro. Launch sentries, rep drones, go away doesn't get nerfed. A boat that relies on heavy drones though has a much higher chance to get boned.
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Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
328
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Posted - 2012.10.05 21:05:00 -
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Rengerel en Distel wrote:I really wish the OP would stop all the histrionics. It takes attention away from what could actually be a problem, and make people just work against you. Actual drone boats may have a problem with the changes, but we can't know for sure until we can actually test the changes in 2 or 3 weeks.
As for those stating the changes nerf afk drone boats, it actually does the opposite, because repping your drones gives you aggro. Launch sentries, rep drones, go away doesn't get nerfed. A boat that relies on heavy drones though has a much higher chance to get boned.
Am I making a fool of myself with all the screaming on the forums? In most people's eyes, absolutely. I have no illusions that all my histrionics (good word) doom me to never getting into a decent corp/ alliance again, if I ever choose to go back to the wh or nullsec life that I have both lived.
Certainly all the null sec zealots and some elements of CCP would like me just skulk away and shut up. I remember people going ballistic about the UI, and that did have some impact, though not as much as all hoped. I remember the Jita riots over "greed is good". These people did not sit there quietly. They screamed loud, they screamed long, they screamed everywhere.
Do you think I LIKE constantly creating over-the-top posts? In a perfect Eve world, I would be grinding ISK for my soon-to-be 600M plex.
But every revolution is started with a single dissenting voice. SOMEONE has to keep this disaster front and centre, so more people will indeed test this starting Oct 19th.
BTW, check the timelines on when I created the thread on GD asking about when Duality would be back up. Then check when the dev's decided to tell us when Duality would be up. The null sec zealots and the CCP dev's will do everything to ridicule the idea, but the only reason we have a date at all is because I screamed about it, making myself look like a fool.
Bottom line, I hate unfairness and I hate bullying, but the null sec zealots in game and a specific element within CCP thrive on those things. Someone has to take a stand against them, no matter how lost a cause it is.
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Nicolo da'Vicenza
Air The Unthinkables
1895
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Posted - 2012.10.05 22:01:00 -
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my shrill, disingenuous and insulting concern trolls are the same as the grassroots mass jita protests because both are loud |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5005
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Posted - 2012.10.06 18:34:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Bottom line, I hate unfairness and I hate bullying, but the null sec zealots in game and a specific element within CCP thrive on those things. Someone has to take a stand against them, no matter how lost a cause it is.
let's see what nerfs nullsec has had to contend with:
greyscale's anomaly nerf, the jump bridge nerf, the upcoming crimewatch changes that will give you PvP aggression for shooting rats, the tech nerf
meanwhile, hisec got the incursion nerf which ensured that they were no longer literally the lowest risk, highest reward PvE in the game and the same nerf killed lowsec/nullsec incursions because CCP apparently thinks that people run them with 1500 DPS shiny faction battleships everywhere and that they should be balanced around the risk-averse hisec min/maxers, and the NPC AI changes which mean that you can't AFK a dominix in a static (pro-tip: you can no longer do that in nullsec anomalies anymore either!)
yet, in spite of all of this, you continue to believe that CCP answers to the ~nullsec zealot~ illuminati and hasn't nerfed the living hell out of nullsec while doing everything in their power to ensure that hisec has the easiest and highest income potential and the lowest risk This post was crafted by a member of the Goonswarm Federation posting cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online posting.
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Rengerel en Distel
Amarr Science and Industry
450
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Posted - 2012.10.06 19:41:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Rengerel en Distel wrote:I really wish the OP would stop all the histrionics. It takes attention away from what could actually be a problem, and make people just work against you. Actual drone boats may have a problem with the changes, but we can't know for sure until we can actually test the changes in 2 or 3 weeks.
As for those stating the changes nerf afk drone boats, it actually does the opposite, because repping your drones gives you aggro. Launch sentries, rep drones, go away doesn't get nerfed. A boat that relies on heavy drones though has a much higher chance to get boned.
Am I making a fool of myself with all the screaming on the forums? In most people's eyes, absolutely. I have no illusions that all my histrionics (good word) doom me to never getting into a decent corp/ alliance again, if I ever choose to go back to the wh or nullsec life that I have both lived. Certainly all the null sec zealots and some elements of CCP would like me just skulk away and shut up. I remember people going ballistic about the UI, and that did have some impact, though not as much as all hoped. I remember the Jita riots over "greed is good". These people did not sit there quietly. They screamed loud, they screamed long, they screamed everywhere. Do you think I LIKE constantly creating over-the-top posts? In a perfect Eve world, I would be grinding ISK for my soon-to-be 600M plex. But every revolution is started with a single dissenting voice. SOMEONE has to keep this disaster front and centre, so more people will indeed test this starting Oct 19th. BTW, check the timelines on when I created the thread on GD asking about when Duality would be back up. Then check when the dev's decided to tell us when Duality would be up. The null sec zealots and the CCP dev's will do everything to ridicule the idea, but the only reason we have a date at all is because I screamed about it, making myself look like a fool. Bottom line, I hate unfairness and I hate bullying, but the null sec zealots in game and a specific element within CCP thrive on those things. Someone has to take a stand against them, no matter how lost a cause it is.
CCP Goliath said on the 29th of Sept that Duality wouldn't be up until the 19th of November. I guess if you want to take credit a week later for making him make a more official response, go ahead.
Until there is more testing done, you're not making a stand, you're making an ass of yourself.
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
4820
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Posted - 2012.10.06 23:17:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote: SOMEONE has to keep this disaster front and centre, so more people will indeed test this starting Oct 19th.
Just so I'm clear on this - the "disaster" you're referring to is that the NPCs will be very slightly more reactive to player reactions, and won't just ignore everything except the initial aggro?
You're flat out, unironically calling this a disaster? Is that correct?
MatrixSkye Mk2: "Remember: You consent to unconsensual PVP the moment you press the "Undock" button." |
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