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Doc Severide
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
197
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Posted - 2012.10.13 13:28:00 -
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KillerPriest wrote:
1) The attitude on the forums and in game towards new pilots is astounding.
Yes, people are always making fun of people just because they think they are "new".
Quote: 2) The fun activities in this game for the most part are reserved for a few huge Alliances that have ridiculous entry requirements because they are afraid of spies".
And they are full of spies anyway. To hell with them
Quote: 3) The one major training corporation (E-Uni) has an unreasonable application process for people with little playing time.
No kidding, just another group of anal elitists...
Quote: Plus, if veterans would stop looking down their noses at new players and reach out to us, everyone would benefit. I guess that could be helped by CCP giving more safeguards against spies. This "VIP, Exclusivity" crap needs to stop. Alliances should be chasing down new players. Offering to teach them the game and take them along on ops to show them what they can look forward to if they stick with the game.
But that might interfere with their numbers they need to prove to everyone just how "cool" they are.
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OssadaDeathLaw
Shadow Bones and Skulls
7
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Posted - 2012.10.13 13:46:00 -
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People just complain all day in all forums over internet |
Arduemont
Lords 0f Justice Fidelas Constans
353
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Posted - 2012.10.13 13:49:00 -
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Dear god, what is wrong with you people! ?
Eve is not dying! Subs are at an all time high and go up each year like clockwork unlike any other MMO in existence. Think before you open your virtual mouths. Why is that people think they can just say whatever the hell they like with literally no justification or evidence? I've had to correct 3 people on this ridiculous assertion today.
I hate that Eve players complain so much, honestly I do, but its only natural. The people who are satisfied with the way Eve is don't really use the forums. Why? Because they have nothing to say, because they're satisfied. |
Cpt Roghie
Deadly Shadow Clan Silent Infinity
59
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Posted - 2012.10.13 14:34:00 -
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We are now whining about whining. Good job.
This could be fun. |
Ryhss
Short Bus Riders Group
19
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Posted - 2012.10.15 18:05:00 -
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This damn post is still going?! |
Muad 'dib
The Imperial Fedaykin
564
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Posted - 2012.10.15 18:07:00 -
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Kijo Rikki wrote:Why do MmO Players complain non stop ?
Fixed that for you.
this.
MMO's change over time they are not "completed" like a storyline FPS, thus complaining makes no difference to the game thats been released.
At least theres the hope that the MMO designers listen to the players to make the next patch the best yet and better the game. Who better to listen to than the players themselves and not a small group of critics and consultants 'in the business'. http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/4375/mynewsig2.jpg |
Josef Djugashvilis
684
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Posted - 2012.10.15 19:46:00 -
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I would complain about Eve, if I had enough game knowledge to know what to complain about.
Eve changes, some changes I like, some I don't, but really, I just go with the flow. This is not a signature. |
Shizuken
Venerated Stars
107
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Posted - 2012.10.15 19:57:00 -
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Taranius De Consolville wrote:
Do u know how many times ive gone on roams with a fleet and jumped 40+ systems in null n not found a single person in local?
Where was that at? Any area with 40 local systems and no one else is definitely a place I want to be.
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Dar Manic
Republic University Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.10.16 23:12:00 -
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"A vet is not someone from 2007 or 2006.... a vet is one of the guys who started back in 2003.. someone who has been there the whole time while EvE has been growing and tagged along in the process."
Can't resist....this is my favorite type of people. If you aren't here at the beginning of the game, you will NEVER be a vet. LOL Talk about bitter old vets gone wild!! |
Vigilant
Vigilant's Vigilante's
5
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Posted - 2012.10.16 23:25:00 -
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cause we play games, GAMERS will always whine |
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Nolindor Blamed
Conflagration Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.10.16 23:26:00 -
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Taranius De Consolville wrote:It's a fairly simple question
You all know, no matter how much we deny it, the game is slowly dieing. The amount of people on during the week is barley topping 30k, now with EvE and the amount of systems, this is simply not enough players.
So why is it when CCP try to *dumb down* and make high sec *safer* for new players
You all start complaining like children?
Grow up, do you want EvE to dissapear or don't you care? We need more players, alot more players.
Quit your moaning
Eve's system actually makes it so older players drive away newer players, instead of attracting. Where newer players are more of the "product" instead of the "consumer".
Now a few players stay, probably, but most of the new players will cancel their subscriptions and leave without a second thought. this makes the subscription base less volatile, but also MUCH smaller.
Is this a good or bad business model?
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Ioci
Bad Girl Posse
215
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Posted - 2012.10.16 23:28:00 -
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Dar Manic wrote:"A vet is not someone from 2007 or 2006.... a vet is one of the guys who started back in 2003.. someone who has been there the whole time while EvE has been growing and tagged along in the process."
Can't resist....this is my favorite type of people. If you aren't here at the beginning of the game, you will NEVER be a vet. LOL Talk about bitter old vets gone wild!!
I know, in the spirit of the thread I am supposed to argue with you but I agree. As an '05 EVE player I consider myself to be a Vet. Not a beta player but in many ways we have been playing Dust 514 beta since Dominion so there are plenty of Vets. (It's when the Sov stopped being about moons and started being about planets, in preparation for our free to play over lords)
'03 Vets have no experience with Capitals I don't have, They weren't in the game. They knew EVE when it didn't have Concord. That should prove useful. Even a lot of my Vet experience is useless. I knew how to avoid an AoE doomsday. So? I know how to get around warp to 15km off the gate. And that helps me how?
To the OP, the question isn't really why we complain but why are we so bitter? Get back to me in 5 or 6 years if you are still here. http://www.youcaring.com/fundraiser_details?url=benefitforseansmithsfamily&fundraiser_id=9332
R.I.P. Vile Rat |
Ravnik
Choke-Hold
1797
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Posted - 2012.10.17 14:27:00 -
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Taranius De Consolville wrote:It's a fairly simple question
You all know, no matter how much we deny it, the game is slowly dieing. The amount of people on during the week is barley topping 30k, now with EvE and the amount of systems, this is simply not enough players.
So why is it when CCP try to *dumb down* and make high sec *safer* for new players
You all start complaining like children?
Grow up, do you want EvE to dissapear or don't you care? We need more players, alot more players.
Quit your moaning
Aren't you moaning about it by posting this? Sorry if someone else has pointed this out, but i cant be bothered to read through all the pages of moans *grumble grumble grumble* You lose it here, you're in a world of hurt....-á |
Tobiaz
Spacerats
688
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Posted - 2012.10.17 14:49:00 -
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Ioci wrote:Dar Manic wrote:"A vet is not someone from 2007 or 2006.... a vet is one of the guys who started back in 2003.. someone who has been there the whole time while EvE has been growing and tagged along in the process."
Can't resist....this is my favorite type of people. If you aren't here at the beginning of the game, you will NEVER be a vet. LOL Talk about bitter old vets gone wild!! I know, in the spirit of the thread I am supposed to argue with you but I agree. As an '05 EVE player I consider myself to be a Vet. Not a beta player but in many ways we have been playing Dust 514 beta since Dominion so there are plenty of Vets. (It's when the Sov stopped being about moons and started being about planets, in preparation for our free to play over lords) '03 Vets have no experience with Capitals I don't have, They weren't in the game. They knew EVE when it didn't have Concord. That should prove useful. Even a lot of my Vet experience is useless. I knew how to avoid an AoE doomsday. So? I know how to get around warp to 15km off the gate. And that helps me how? To the OP, the question isn't really why we complain but why are we so bitter? Get back to me in 5 or 6 years if you are still here.
Beta-vet here. EVE has always had CONCORD (though since then they've had more buffs than Mr. Miyagi's car). Especially the Yulai incident was a big eye-opener for CCP. Operation WRITE DOWN ALL THE THINGS!!!-á Check out the list at http://bit.ly/wdatt Collecting and compiling all fixes and ideas for EVE. Looking for more editors! |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
4932
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Posted - 2012.10.17 14:49:00 -
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Nolindor Blamed wrote:Taranius De Consolville wrote:It's a fairly simple question
You all know, no matter how much we deny it, the game is slowly dieing. The amount of people on during the week is barley topping 30k, now with EvE and the amount of systems, this is simply not enough players.
So why is it when CCP try to *dumb down* and make high sec *safer* for new players
You all start complaining like children?
Grow up, do you want EvE to dissapear or don't you care? We need more players, alot more players.
Quit your moaning Eve's system actually makes it so older players drive away newer players, instead of attracting. Where newer players are more of the "product" instead of the "consumer". Now a few players stay, probably, but most of the new players will cancel their subscriptions and leave without a second thought. this makes the subscription base less volatile, but also MUCH smaller. Is this a good or bad business model?
Agreed. Something needs to be done about these guys who just sit forever in NPC corps and tell new players that they can never succeed by taking any risks. They're a cancer. MatrixSkye Mk2: "Remember: You consent to unconsensual PVP the moment you press the "Undock" button." |
Taranius De Consolville
Curse Of The Chosen Border World Enterprises
258
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Posted - 2012.10.17 15:01:00 -
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oh dear lord this thread is still going
wow lol
u people really should understand when u get trolled.
Fail tbfh, fail |
Taranius De Consolville
Curse Of The Chosen Border World Enterprises
258
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Posted - 2012.10.17 15:02:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Nolindor Blamed wrote:Taranius De Consolville wrote:It's a fairly simple question
You all know, no matter how much we deny it, the game is slowly dieing. The amount of people on during the week is barley topping 30k, now with EvE and the amount of systems, this is simply not enough players.
So why is it when CCP try to *dumb down* and make high sec *safer* for new players
You all start complaining like children?
Grow up, do you want EvE to dissapear or don't you care? We need more players, alot more players.
Quit your moaning Eve's system actually makes it so older players drive away newer players, instead of attracting. Where newer players are more of the "product" instead of the "consumer". Now a few players stay, probably, but most of the new players will cancel their subscriptions and leave without a second thought. this makes the subscription base less volatile, but also MUCH smaller. Is this a good or bad business model? Agreed. Something needs to be done about these guys who just sit forever in NPC corps and tell new players that they can never succeed by taking any risks. They're a cancer.
This i will agree to |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
4932
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Posted - 2012.10.17 15:09:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Signal11th wrote:Merkal Aubauch wrote:Yea well numbers are going down cos CCP is killing gameplay for old players. Sad to say but f**king D3 is more enjoyable than eve these days :( Sad to say but true, Eve is a bit boring at the moment (last 18months) Gee, wonder why. When most of null is blue to one another. Yes, I know you are fighting PL, and the goons are fighting NC. But fundamentally, there is far more peace in null than there was 18 months ago.
lolwut? Virtually all of sov space is involved in the current conflicts. And NPC 0.0 is as full of the old ultraviolence as it ever was.
MatrixSkye Mk2: "Remember: You consent to unconsensual PVP the moment you press the "Undock" button." |
Taranius De Consolville
Curse Of The Chosen Border World Enterprises
259
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Posted - 2012.10.17 15:13:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Signal11th wrote:Merkal Aubauch wrote:Yea well numbers are going down cos CCP is killing gameplay for old players. Sad to say but f**king D3 is more enjoyable than eve these days :( Sad to say but true, Eve is a bit boring at the moment (last 18months) Gee, wonder why. When most of null is blue to one another. Yes, I know you are fighting PL, and the goons are fighting NC. But fundamentally, there is far more peace in null than there was 18 months ago. lolwut? Virtually all of sov space is involved in the current conflicts. And NPC 0.0 is as full of the old ultraviolence as it ever was.
i agree with ur earlier point but this above statement is absolute bs mate
most of the major alliances make huge coaltions n blue everyone, its boring, pvp is boring now
!" |
Tobiaz
Spacerats
688
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Posted - 2012.10.17 18:44:00 -
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Taranius De Consolville wrote: i agree with ur earlier point but this above statement is absolute bs mate
most of the major alliances make huge coaltions n blue everyone, its boring, pvp is boring now
!"
Caused by the ease and low cost of the extreme projection of power and logistics. Without it alliances would be forced to fight their neighbors again, instead of curb-stomping some small alliance on the other side of the galaxy with their NAP-train (who will just run and hide, ofcourse).
A big increase in the consumption of jump-fuel for capitals would solve a LOT of problems in null, low-sec and even empire, because many of them are directly or indirectly related to the excessive power-projection of (super)capitals and the ridiculous low-cost, low-risk, low-effort logistics of jump-freighters.
But it's a foul-tasting medicine that CCP will sadly never force upon the null-bears. Operation WRITE DOWN ALL THE THINGS!!!-á Check out the list at http://bit.ly/wdatt Collecting and compiling all fixes and ideas for EVE. Looking for more editors! |
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Ryhss
Short Bus Riders Group
20
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Posted - 2012.10.18 13:41:00 -
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I can't believe his threads still active.... |
IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69
Angry Mustellid Iron Oxide.
260
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Posted - 2012.10.18 14:18:00 -
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How can CCP compete with that, seems like they are just speeding up the inevitable. |
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CCP Falcon
C C P
122
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Posted - 2012.10.18 16:02:00 -
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Tiberius Murderhorne wrote:Because of Falcon....
It's not my fault
CCP Falcon -á-á||-á-áEVE Community Developer -á-á||-á-á@CCP_Falcon |
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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
2594
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Posted - 2012.10.18 17:39:00 -
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Ryhss wrote:I can't believe his threads still active.... Some people enjoy chasing invisible mice. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Wolf Kruol
Sinisenkuun Laguuni GREATER ITAMO MAFIA
23
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Posted - 2012.10.18 21:22:00 -
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Because eve would be boring without the soap show. GÇ£If you're very very stupid? How can you possibly realize you're very very stupid?
You have to be relatively intelligent to realize how stupid you really are!GÇ¥ |
Bane Necran
550
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Posted - 2012.10.18 22:24:00 -
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All MMO forums tend to be whine depositories. "It's no use crying over spilt milk, because all the forces of the universe were bent on spilling it." ~William Maugham |
Alice Saki
12498
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Posted - 2012.10.18 22:27:00 -
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Taranius De Consolville wrote:oh dear lord this thread is still going
wow lol
u people really should understand when u get trolled.
Fail tbfh, fail
Cough.... I did warn you Scottish Interweb Spaceshippy Person, Very Easily Confused. I like to show my Love by Smashing people in the face with a big Hammer.
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Jim Era
5542
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Posted - 2012.10.18 22:29:00 -
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Alice Saki wrote:Taranius De Consolville wrote:oh dear lord this thread is still going
wow lol
u people really should understand when u get trolled.
Fail tbfh, fail Cough.... I did warn you
I blame alice |
Taranius De Consolville
Curse Of The Chosen Border World Enterprises
262
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Posted - 2012.10.18 23:19:00 -
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Tobiaz wrote:Taranius De Consolville wrote: i agree with ur earlier point but this above statement is absolute bs mate
most of the major alliances make huge coaltions n blue everyone, its boring, pvp is boring now
!"
Caused by the ease and low cost of the extreme projection of power and logistics. Without it alliances would be forced to fight their neighbors again, instead of curb-stomping some small alliance on the other side of the galaxy with their NAP-train (who will just run and hide, ofcourse). A big increase in the consumption of jump-fuel for capitals would solve a LOT of problems in null, low-sec and even empire, because many of them are directly or indirectly related to the excessive power-projection of (super)capitals and the ridiculous low-cost, low-risk, low-effort logistics of jump-freighters. But it's a foul-tasting medicine that CCP will sadly never force upon the null-bears.
POS should cost more to run, ALOT more, capitals should cost ALOT more to build and run
simple small changes ccp wont make |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
1817
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Posted - 2012.10.19 00:03:00 -
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Let me get this straight.
CCP created a sandbox game. Player driven game play, player driven economy, player driven war, player driven industry and so on...
So now the players are driving it into the ground and it's somehow CCP's fault?
ROFL!
Mr Epeen There is no excuse beyond fatalistic self-indulgence and sheer laziness for doing nothing --á Iain Banks |
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