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Sheil4
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Posted - 2012.10.08 00:25:00 -
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Hello gentlemens.
I have a proposal to all of you:
Let's say you had 50 bil, what would you do with it?
and if you are very very sure that you can pull something very profitable, I'll give you the chance to make some isk.
The idea is this:
You give me a plan to profit these 50bil, I'll then lend API to VV and let him check if your plan works and net me a profit, and then I'll share with you 30% of my total profit :) If the idea is super good i can even go 50/50
Is it crazy enough? I'll lend a 25bil collateral to VV, so in case you gave me a very good idea, I profit, and don't pay you back... well VV will give you a part if not all the collateral.
What can you lose? Nothing What can you get? Isk :) |
sh4k33l En
Epsilon Inc Tribal Band
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Posted - 2012.10.08 02:40:00 -
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so basically, you take my idea ~ make profit and possibly give me 30%?
Gonna troll and say Station trade, it works, guaranteed, or more basic - region trade! liek just go eve-central and look up two different regions buy stuffs sell in another
or if you don't really want to do anything with it, just buy minerals and sit on it ~ it will mature, eventually heh
Now about that 30%? ;) |
Sheil4
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Posted - 2012.10.08 02:57:00 -
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you are the worse troll ever seen :)
There are ppl with no isk and good idea, that can't pull out a good profit because of it. So i give the chance to these ppl to have a profit. Ofc I'm not jesus christ so I don't do it for free.
Idea can not be: Station Trading. Already making my profit with it, a good idea is a PLAN to make a profit. |
Huttan Funaila
222 EVE 2 2 2
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Posted - 2012.10.08 03:38:00 -
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Do you want suggestions public, or via PM? |
Kara Books
Deal with IT.
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Posted - 2012.10.08 05:34:00 -
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You want to invest 50B isk, but you dont know how to invest, is this correct? |
Vera Algaert
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.10.08 06:28:00 -
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(1) buy 50b worth of implants after the next FW cashout. (2) wait for FW changes in Retribution (3) sell implants for > 70b within a month after Retribution release or (3) OMG LP stockpiles
=> 10% interest per month, all eggs in one basket I'm a NPC corp alt, any argument I make is invalid. |
Steve Celeste
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.10.08 08:30:00 -
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What would I do if I had 50b??
Dunno, feel poor? |
Nanatoa
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.10.08 10:02:00 -
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Invest in faction ships, especially Fleet Issue Stabbers - they are getting quite popular with the rise of the New Order. It is never too late to turn from the errors of your ways: He who repents of his sins is almost innocent.
MinerBumping.com |
Cpt Gobla
No Bullshit Jokers Wild.
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Posted - 2012.10.08 10:45:00 -
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Buy 84 PLEX.
Wait 3-4 months.
Sell for 84 Bil. |
flakeys
Angels of Anarchy Interstellar Confederation
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Posted - 2012.10.08 11:38:00 -
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Kara Books wrote:You want to invest 50B isk, but you dont know how to invest, is this correct?
SPot on i'd say There is a sufficiency in the world for man's need but not for man's greed.-á |
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Daniel Plain
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.10.08 11:47:00 -
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buy tengu pilots
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings" -MXZF |
Ravenclaw2kk
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2012.10.08 14:39:00 -
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Retribution should bring some interesting changes. Faction officer tags for security standing will open up a whole new demand for a historically stagnant market. It's doubtful you would be able to invest 50bn isk into it as it is currently very small however i have successfully invested a chunk at about 500% profit. I don't really play enough any more to trade any more and the next time i will have time is after the patch.
I am assuming that you are fishing for information at the moment, otherwise you would have gotten VV to confirm the collateral, but i couldn;t really care less as i am not going to be investing more for the reasons i mentioned earlier. |
Antaire Riggers
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.10.08 16:32:00 -
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Give it to grindell. he gives 0.25% to hold ur isk a month
then if he finds someone with collateral asking for a loan, he gives u like 1-3% interest a month
its a good afk way of making 1-3b a month |
Babyface Eighteen
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.10.09 13:38:00 -
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Sheil4 wrote:you are the worse troll ever seen :)
There are ppl with no isk and good idea
Where?
Unless somone just burned 50bill on some strange PvP project, there will not be many people out there with no isk and the competency/experience to take 50bill and turn it into 70 bill. If you know how to do it, you will most likely already have done it.
Imo, this looks like a brag thread. |
flakeys
Angels of Anarchy Interstellar Confederation
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Posted - 2012.10.09 15:35:00 -
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Sheil4 wrote:you are the worse troll ever seen :)
There are ppl with no isk and good idea
And then there are people with 50B with no idea's at all ..... just saying .
You got the 50B as a farewell present from an eve friend that closed his accs ? There is a sufficiency in the world for man's need but not for man's greed.-á |
De Guillaume
Grim Determination Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2012.10.09 15:54:00 -
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i have more than double that in isk so yeah i am bragging now
and if anyone knows how i make my isk, its getting boring so yeah i think there are people out there who want new ideas to make isk. Has you ever went so far as chose to go even use want to look more like do? |
corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
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Posted - 2012.10.09 15:56:00 -
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Steve Celeste wrote:What would I do if I had 50b??
Dunno, feel poor?
Pretty much this. This post was crafted by a member of the GoonSwarm Federation Economic Cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online economics and gameplay.
fofofo |
Bugsy VanHalen
Society of lost Souls
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Posted - 2012.10.09 19:09:00 -
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I have a plan I put together for setting up a network of reaction towers in a very dead low sec area. I will not give out the finer details on the forums, but I got the systems and moons picked out. Will place a few small towers in systems pulling low end moon goo just to see if any locals would bother to take them down. If they survive I will add my large towers and get some reactions going. If not I will move to another system on my list. All mats will be moved via Jump freighter.
It has been more time constraints than isk that have kept me from proceeding with my plan. I could raise the isk to get things moving, and then expand as the profits started rolling in. However as I said, i don't have enough time in game to support my plan and keep thing rolling smoothly.
I would be mining some lower end moon goo just to save space in the JF, but mostly will bring in raw GOO from a trade hub. perform simple and complex reactions. And haul the advanced materials back out. According to my calculations the profit margins are huge. There is big profit to be made off reactions even if all raw GOO is bought from trade hub sell orders. After calculating all POS fuel and logistics I am looking at 20% profit from simple reactions and an additional 30% on complex reactions. 50% total profit, and not huge logistics after the initial work of getting it all set up.
As It may be some time before I put this plan into motion myself, and the market will most likely change by then. I will say that I was planing on producing mats needed for gallente ships as the ORE exhumers use the same mats. These tend to move very well and profits could quickly be increased by adding exhumer production to the plan.
Although my plan involved some cheaper mats, at least to get things rolling. It will scale very well as the higher priced moon GOO mats seem to have even larger profit margins on the reactions. The more isk available to get things rolling the higher profits can be had.
It is easy to double your isk in only a few days or weeks when you are only talking about up to 1-2 bil. When you get up to 50 bil or more you can still make a couple bil per day, but can no longer double your isk reliably. To reach truly high profit margins on large volumes of isk, you need to look beyond station trading.
Moon mining, at least when talking about the higher end moons, is an alliance based activity. This is because those high end moons are hard to hold. You need a big fleet to defend them. But when only looking at the reactions, you no longer need a high end moon. A pirate see's a POS in low sec with a couple refining arrays on it they have no way of knowing if you are making sylramic fibers or Fullerides. And as long as you keep up on logistics you can avoid having to much stored at a single POS at any one time.
A lonely back water low sec system where you can make friends with the local FW pirates is quite a safe place to perform reactions. If you are no threat to either sides FW farming, and do not care if the system is flipped back and fourth. They will have no reason to evict you. Even in low sec taking down a large tower is boring and takes some work. If they have nothing to gain, they will not bother. If nobody wants your moon, you are careful to keep it from becoming a loot pinata, and you are in a low traffic system most pirates don't even bother jumping into, you are as safe as low sec can get.
50 bil would fund a set up that could easily double your isk in a month or so. You would even have enough left over to hire mercenaries to defend your POSes if needed. Although with my plan the loss of a POS could be easily absorbed as long as you never have more than 48 hours worth of mats in any one POS. |
Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
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Posted - 2012.10.09 19:16:00 -
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If I had 50 BN ISK, I'd be hyperinflating PLEX prices. And then selling them at 10% profit or better. |
corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
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Posted - 2012.10.09 22:26:00 -
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Val'Dore wrote:If I had 50 BN ISK, I'd be hyperinflating PLEX prices. And then selling them at 10% profit or better.
If you had 50bn isk you'd be a drop in the bucket in plexes. This post was crafted by a member of the GoonSwarm Federation Economic Cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online economics and gameplay.
fofofo |
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Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
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Posted - 2012.10.09 23:00:00 -
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corestwo wrote:Val'Dore wrote:If I had 50 BN ISK, I'd be hyperinflating PLEX prices. And then selling them at 10% profit or better. If you had 50bn isk you'd be a drop in the bucket in plexes.
So? It all adds up. |
Nyancat Audeles
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.10.09 23:19:00 -
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Val'Dore wrote:corestwo wrote:Val'Dore wrote:If I had 50 BN ISK, I'd be hyperinflating PLEX prices. And then selling them at 10% profit or better. If you had 50bn isk you'd be a drop in the bucket in plexes. So? It all adds up.
Hell, I'd be happy if I had 1 Bill :P
Anyways, what I think he's trying to say is that there is so much volume in PLEX trading at the moment that 80 PLEX will have a very little effect on the economy. Now if we ALL had 50 bill, we can potentially pull it off...
Anyways, if you want a way to invest your 50 Bill, I'd say either invest in PLEX (it went up by 30M in the last 2 days wtf) and/or do high volume station trading or price manipulation on certain items. |
Sarmea Moon
Universal Freelance CONSORTIUM UNIVERSALIS
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Posted - 2012.10.10 00:14:00 -
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Assuming you have the skills for it- buy any profitable T2 BPO. Make goods for a while. Anytime you want your 50B back- sell the BPOs for a profit.
TADA longterm earning cash.
Rinse repeat with any profitable T1 BPO on the market. |
NEONOVUS
Saablast Followers
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Posted - 2012.10.11 03:12:00 -
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T2 BPOS and Reactions. Buy a t3 production alt and start cranking out the various subsystems and hulls. Lokis given their incoming buff. |
Sheil4
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Posted - 2012.10.14 09:48:00 -
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the problem is time, I can already pull out alone with some time a 500-600mil a day w/o much problem, but I was looking for something less time involved.
I don't want to double 50bil in a month, i was looking more to 5-6 bil a month as a steady income. and my offer was real, in the case someone has a real good idea and no isk to do it, contact me via pm, we will arrange with VV an audit and start talking about an agreement |
X ATM092
The Hatchery Team Liquid
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Posted - 2012.10.14 14:07:00 -
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corestwo wrote:Steve Celeste wrote:What would I do if I had 50b??
Dunno, feel poor? Pretty much this. Didn't see you guys down there. |
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2012.10.14 17:14:00 -
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Sheil4 wrote:the problem is time, I can already pull out alone with some time a 500-600mil a day w/o much problem, but I was looking for something less time involved.
I don't want to double 50bil in a month, i was looking more to 5-6 bil a month as a steady income. and my offer was real, in the case someone has a real good idea and no isk to do it, contact me via pm, we will arrange with VV an audit and start talking about an agreement
You might diversify some of it. IE I will launch a lil mineral fund (see thread in first page) you could put some in there. But not much, it's not going to be a pro-hard core initiative bringing in the hell of money. Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
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Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.10.14 19:31:00 -
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If i had 50 billion isk, i wouldn't tell anybody what i'd do with it, but i can assure you ... you and everybody else would notice.
^_^ Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |
NEONOVUS
Saablast Followers
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Posted - 2012.10.14 20:01:00 -
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Part of the issue is that the sum you suggest is more than start up money for anything manageable by one person. I mean most complex pos reactions currently boast 100% profit. And good god in heaven when you build the construction components with them. I mean there in lay the crux. 1 billion a month per complex reaction pos giving back 724 million over the month. Now you have to manage 50 of the things with your kind donation. Not the least bit impossible as the silos are easily large enough to hold that much, the issue is finding 50 moons where you can run that in a not very well tanked pos though given that you can make 1.2 bil per day running them all The loss of one is barely a concern. I mean that is about the best you will get unless some one wants to get capital. |
Abbey Montauk
Faction LLC
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Posted - 2012.10.15 05:44:00 -
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NEONOVUS wrote:Part of the issue is that the sum you suggest is more than start up money for anything manageable by one person. I mean most complex pos reactions currently boast 100% profit. And good god in heaven when you build the construction components with them. I mean there in lay the crux. 1 billion a month per complex reaction pos giving back 724 million over the month. Now you have to manage 50 of the things with your kind donation. Not the least bit impossible as the silos are easily large enough to hold that much, the issue is finding 50 moons where you can run that in a not very well tanked pos though given that you can make 1.2 bil per day running them all The loss of one is barely a concern. I mean that is about the best you will get unless some one wants to get capital.
You wouldnt have 50, you'd need cash to buy basic reactants.
Honestly, for an almost passive income. Get a few dread guriatas towers and start a research alliance, make positive income from me-áresearch slots.
More active, get 2-3 jump freighters, import a **** ton gear to null alliance warzones.
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