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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5034
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Posted - 2012.10.08 13:46:00 -
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HollyShocker 2inthestink wrote:People post with alts for many reasons. Some corps have a code of conduct that restricts them from posting on the forums as they represent that corp.
Which ones?
HollyShocker 2inthestink wrote:Others just want to be able to speak thier mind and not have to deal with the numerous asshats that troll these forums. Others use it as a form of meta gaming.
That implies that people take NPC posting alts seriously. And no, it's not used as a form of "metagaming," NPC corp posting alts are just used for sockpuppetry.
HollyShocker 2inthestink wrote:Just because you may not have the ability to see or think outside your own small box doesnt mean that all these people are cowards.
Yes it does. This post was crafted by a member of the Goonswarm Federation posting cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online posting.
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CCP Punkturis
C C P C C P Alliance
3323
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Posted - 2012.10.08 13:47:00 -
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I kind of like that you guys are speculating about the feature my team is working on, it shows that you care :3 Gÿà EVE User Interface Programmer Gÿà GÖÑ Team Super Friends GÖÑ @CCP_Punkturis My Dev Blogs |
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Inquisitor Kitchner
Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes
120
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Posted - 2012.10.08 13:47:00 -
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Destiny Corrupted wrote: Also, all the people getting ready to jump on the alt bandwagon for forum posting just to avoid bounties make me sad for the state of gaming as a whole. I don't understand how someone can insist on playing a shooting game while having less balls than an underbudgeted inner-city school gymnasium. With all the people I **** off, I'll probably hit ten figures in a month. And guess what? I'll wear that **** as a badge of honor. I've never even considered using alts to post on forums, unlike these tiny cowards who are scurrying in panic like ants under a microscope. Way to play a videogame.
I used to play a Discworld MUD RPG text based game. In that game you could go "Playerkiller" which means other Playerkillers (PKs) could attack you whenever. I was a thief, so I could steal other PK's stuff, but I was far too lazy to actually grind the hours and hours and hours worth of XP needed to be a good fighter (FYI the game had no skill caps, so you'd literally be able to become level 1000000 in a skill with enough effort meaning no-one new could stand stand a chance).
I posted a lot of stuff and it wasn't shiptoasting, it just was conflicting with what a load of asshats thought. These asshats kept hiring assassins to kill me. How the system worked is you started with 7 "lives", a PK kill DIDN'T take a life, but an assassination did. You could buy more lives at an increasing cost.
I think by the time I stopped playing the game which, somehow, was even worse than EVE Online: A Terrible Game I think I had been assassinated something like 30 times. Each of my lives cost $1300 to rebuy at the end (not pocket change) but each contract cost them $2800. I was wasting THEIR money.
I was proud of the fact that my words alone caused so many people to dislike me so much. Especially since the ones doing so 99% of the time did it anonymously THEY didn't have the balls to even sign their name on the card that was left with your corpse. Be proud of both attracting and placing bounties due to forum posts.
Also side note: The value of your ship will directly influence how worth it is to collect the bounty in High Sec without kill rights. Flying a 10 mil ship that pays out a 10% bounty wouldn't be worth it. Flying a 800mil ship that pays out 80 mil might be. Assuming the system works that way. |
Inquisitor Kitchner
Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes
120
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Posted - 2012.10.08 13:48:00 -
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CCP Punkturis wrote:I kind of like that you guys are speculating about the feature my team is working on, it shows that you care :3
It's because we're all Boba Fett wannabes. |
HollyShocker 2inthestink
State War Academy Caldari State
26
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Posted - 2012.10.08 13:49:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:HollyShocker 2inthestink wrote:People post with alts for many reasons. Some corps have a code of conduct that restricts them from posting on the forums as they represent that corp. What sort of ****** corp wouldn't let you post on the forums?
I would imagine ones that dont want to have to suffer wardecs and such for the views or actions of one of it members on the forums. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5034
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Posted - 2012.10.08 13:51:00 -
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HollyShocker 2inthestink wrote:I would imagine ones that dont want to have to suffer wardecs and such for the views or actions of one of it members on the forums.
What kind of weaksauce corp are you in that can't handle a wardec? This post was crafted by a member of the Goonswarm Federation posting cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online posting.
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Nikodiemus
Jokulhlaup
54
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Posted - 2012.10.08 13:54:00 -
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I predict that this like most other changes CCP has tried in recent introductions will fail horribly but only after being manipulated to the breaking point by people smarter than CCP's employees. |
TheGunslinger42
Bite Me inc Elysian Empire
410
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Posted - 2012.10.08 13:54:00 -
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Because I'm incredibly lazy I didn't actually bother reading this thread or the linked articles, blogs, or whatever else
I'm just going to assume that having a bounty doesn't magically make concord disappear though, so don't worry
and with failwatch and subsequent things being designed to satiate those who lust for a hello kitty online style eve, I doubt the new bounty system will mean anything, other than you not being able to game it with such an obviously stupid and easy thing as a friend or alt shooting you |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
2506
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Posted - 2012.10.08 13:57:00 -
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HollyShocker 2inthestink wrote:Destiny Corrupted wrote:Relax, the bounty system won't make people who have bounties free for all to everyone else. That will be reserved for, uh, people who steal bookmarks out of bait cans and targeting mining vessels without their pilots' permission (coming in 2014).
Also, all the people getting ready to jump on the alt bandwagon for forum posting just to avoid bounties make me sad for the state of gaming as a whole. I don't understand how someone can insist on playing a shooting game while having less balls than an underbudgeted inner-city school gymnasium. With all the people I **** off, I'll probably hit ten figures in a month. And guess what? I'll wear that **** as a badge of honor. I've never even considered using alts to post on forums, unlike these tiny cowards who are scurrying in panic like ants under a microscope. Way to play a videogame. Real men/women play with thier real name and post thier address and phone number and credit card info. They dont hide behind a female avatar in a make believe game and pretend to be tuff. People post with alts for many reasons. Some corps have a code of conduct that restricts them from posting on the forums as they represent that corp. Others just want to be able to speak thier mind and not have to deal with the numerous asshats that troll these forums. Others use it as a form of meta gaming. Just because you may not have the ability to see or think outside your own small box doesnt mean that all these people are cowards. Once again thank you for removing any doubt.
People don't post their personal information because there is a difference between trying to avoid in game consequences and real life consequences. Your confusion on this point is an excellent example of why it isn't done.
If your alliance has a code against forum posts, and it is important to you to post, find a different alliance.
If you want to speak your mind, you should be prepared to defend that stance in game... perhaps by creating a low skilled PVP character that actually undocks occasionally.
NPC forum alts actually are a bit cowardly. They are an extra layer of anonymity created specifically to protect your imaginary characters from taking responsibility for what you say in a space ship video game. It is quite possibly the lamest tactic developed in any video game ever. Perhaps it's time to stop trading your dignity for imaginary space pixels. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
HollyShocker 2inthestink
State War Academy Caldari State
26
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Posted - 2012.10.08 13:59:00 -
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Andski wrote:HollyShocker 2inthestink wrote:People post with alts for many reasons. Some corps have a code of conduct that restricts them from posting on the forums as they represent that corp. Which ones? HollyShocker 2inthestink wrote:Others just want to be able to speak thier mind and not have to deal with the numerous asshats that troll these forums. Others use it as a form of meta gaming. That implies that people take NPC posting alts seriously. And no, it's not used as a form of "metagaming," NPC corp posting alts are just used for sockpuppetry. HollyShocker 2inthestink wrote:Just because you may not have the ability to see or think outside your own small box doesnt mean that all these people are cowards. Yes it does.
I am sure it wouldnt be any that the mighty goofwaffle federation would care or know about, but they are out there should you care to look.
People alt posting dont all belong to an NPC corps. I understand some of you are Professional trolls and take it personal when people tend to disagree with your limited thought process but there is more to things then just your way. People use alts to forum post to meta all the time and if you cant see or want to acknowledge that fact then keep on trolling. |
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5035
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Posted - 2012.10.08 14:02:00 -
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HollyShocker 2inthestink wrote:People use alts to forum post to meta all the time and if you cant see or want to acknowledge that fact then keep on trolling.
Sorry, lending support to your own threads in F&I with 10 of your own posting alts isn't 'metagaming' This post was crafted by a member of the Goonswarm Federation posting cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online posting.
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Arec Bardwin
760
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Posted - 2012.10.08 14:03:00 -
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CCP Punkturis wrote:I kind of like that you guys are speculating about the feature my team is working on, it shows that you care :3 Smugness is not a good quality, you know. Might land you a bounty on your head
http://i47.tinypic.com/29ar2b7.jpg
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Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
1029
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Posted - 2012.10.08 14:03:00 -
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HollyShocker 2inthestink wrote:Destiny Corrupted wrote:Relax, the bounty system won't make people who have bounties free for all to everyone else. That will be reserved for, uh, people who steal bookmarks out of bait cans and targeting mining vessels without their pilots' permission (coming in 2014).
Also, all the people getting ready to jump on the alt bandwagon for forum posting just to avoid bounties make me sad for the state of gaming as a whole. I don't understand how someone can insist on playing a shooting game while having less balls than an underbudgeted inner-city school gymnasium. With all the people I **** off, I'll probably hit ten figures in a month. And guess what? I'll wear that **** as a badge of honor. I've never even considered using alts to post on forums, unlike these tiny cowards who are scurrying in panic like ants under a microscope. Way to play a videogame. Real men/women play with thier real name and post thier address and phone number and credit card info. They dont hide behind a female avatar in a make believe game and pretend to be tuff. People post with alts for many reasons. Some corps have a code of conduct that restricts them from posting on the forums as they represent that corp. Others just want to be able to speak thier mind and not have to deal with the numerous asshats that troll these forums. Others use it as a form of meta gaming. Just because you may not have the ability to see or think outside your own small box doesnt mean that all these people are cowards. Once again thank you for removing any doubt. How does exposing yourself to identity theft by anonymous parties make you brave? That's stupidity, not courage.
Your other points, in order:
1. Not being allowed to post by your corporation means you're in a ****** corporation which i led by another tiny baby sperglord who is too afraid to agitate someone who might know how to fit weapons to a ship without resulting in an epic killmail-of-the-year post on battleclinic.
2. Speaking your mind is just as valid, if not more so, on your main than on an alt. If you're too afraid to speak your mind without hiding your real character(s), you're a tiny baby coward.
3. Meta-gaming is fine, but don't expect to be taken seriously. Alt posts are inconsequential.
I'm by no means a tough guys. I won't, however, denigrate myself by hiding from the one arguable feature that makes this game worth playing. If you do, then you have the integrity and testicular fortitude of a wet paper bag full of tampons. (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST) |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
2507
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Posted - 2012.10.08 14:06:00 -
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Arec Bardwin wrote:CCP Punkturis wrote:I kind of like that you guys are speculating about the feature my team is working on, it shows that you care :3 Smugness is not a good quality, you know. Might land you a bounty on your head http://i47.tinypic.com/29ar2b7.jpg
You know, I tell my little girl that when boys do mean stuff like that it just means they like her. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
1022
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Posted - 2012.10.08 14:09:00 -
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Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:.........
Also side note: The value of your ship will directly influence how worth it is to collect the bounty in High Sec without kill rights. Flying a 10 mil ship that pays out a 10% bounty wouldn't be worth it. Flying a 800mil ship that pays out 80 mil might be. Assuming the system works that way. Im hoping the bounty setter will be able to set the percent rate, from 1% up to whatever limit insures no one can make a net profit by shooting themselves.
Id like to see you be able to set bounties over classes of people, and define classes of people eligible to collect. For example: a bounty on all people with a -5 or lower sec status, collectable by anyone with a sec status above +2, excluding members of particular alliances. http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |
Ryhss
Android Gang Stealth Syndicate
19
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Posted - 2012.10.08 14:18:00 -
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Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:MilitantMan wrote:CCP seriously you are going to allow people to be griefed out of the game and you support that? WTF are you mental or something?
Anyone can put 50 mill, 100mill or whatever bounty on a person, as much as they like, so that they just get constantly shot at by anyone and everyone...
What are you drinking? This guy seems and intelligent and well balanced individual who has spent quite a long time putting together his argument, which is supported by top quality critical thinking and presented in a logical yet interesting way design to persuade us to his point of view in a delicate manner. In light of such a well crafted and masterful use of posting I must make sure that I spent and equal amount of time to compose my rebuttal. Here it goes: no u Listen.....smell that? Sarcasm. |
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CCP Punkturis
C C P C C P Alliance
3324
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Posted - 2012.10.08 14:19:00 -
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Arec Bardwin wrote:CCP Punkturis wrote:I kind of like that you guys are speculating about the feature my team is working on, it shows that you care :3 Smugness is not a good quality, you know. Might land you a bounty on your head http://i47.tinypic.com/29ar2b7.jpg
haha!
(now I want a bounty!) Gÿà EVE User Interface Programmer Gÿà GÖÑ Team Super Friends GÖÑ @CCP_Punkturis My Dev Blogs |
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Karl Hobb
Stellar Ore Refinery and Crematorium
710
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Posted - 2012.10.08 14:21:00 -
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HollyShocker 2inthestink wrote:People post with alts for many reasons. Some corps have a code of conduct that restricts them from posting on the forums as they represent that corp. Those corps and the people who join them are retards.
Also, EN24 is completely terrible. How did that "article" make it past the "editors"? Nothing Found |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
2509
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Posted - 2012.10.08 14:26:00 -
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Karl Hobb wrote:HollyShocker 2inthestink wrote:People post with alts for many reasons. Some corps have a code of conduct that restricts them from posting on the forums as they represent that corp. Those corps and the people who join them are retards. Also, EN24 is completely terrible. How did that "article" make it past the "editors"?
Well Ed, Ed, and Eddie were busy hatching a plot to sell tickets to a fake amusement park for 25 cents a person. This impacted their ability to get the editing done before the deadline.
To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Caellach Marellus
Aideron Technologies
600
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Posted - 2012.10.08 14:30:00 -
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Arec Bardwin wrote:CCP Punkturis wrote:I kind of like that you guys are speculating about the feature my team is working on, it shows that you care :3 Smugness is not a good quality, you know. Might land you a bounty on your head http://i47.tinypic.com/29ar2b7.jpg
Punkturis linked this on Twitter, incoming like spam in 5....
Personally I laughed, then I facepalmed, and yet I still think this should be the image when you have a bounty instead of [WANTED] in big red letters over your portrait. Enjoy your gaming.
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CCP Punkturis
C C P C C P Alliance
3325
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Posted - 2012.10.08 14:33:00 -
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Caellach Marellus wrote:Arec Bardwin wrote:CCP Punkturis wrote:I kind of like that you guys are speculating about the feature my team is working on, it shows that you care :3 Smugness is not a good quality, you know. Might land you a bounty on your head http://i47.tinypic.com/29ar2b7.jpg Punkturis linked this on Twitter, incoming like spam in 5.... Personally I laughed, then I facepalmed, and yet I still think this should be the image when you have a bounty instead of [WANTED] in big red letters over your portrait.
best idea, I'm not sure I can sneak it through though Gÿà EVE User Interface Programmer Gÿà GÖÑ Team Super Friends GÖÑ @CCP_Punkturis My Dev Blogs |
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Karrl Tian
Star-Trackers
1
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Posted - 2012.10.08 14:54:00 -
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Guess EVE players will have to learn how to not be dicks in their online video game.
We're screwed, man, screwed! |
Inquisitor Kitchner
Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes
122
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Posted - 2012.10.08 15:37:00 -
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CCP Punkturis wrote:
haha!
(now I want a bounty!)
Despite coconut being disgusting I'll send one to Iceland if you give a date for the Dev blog. |
Alice Saki
9250
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Posted - 2012.10.08 15:40:00 -
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Expecting a Bounty Asap ^_^
Also what happened to the Smexy stories? :P Scottish Interweb Spaceshippy Person, Very Easily Confused. I like to show my Love by Smashing people in the face with a big Hammer.
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Sheynan
Lighting the blight
74
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Posted - 2012.10.08 15:59:00 -
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I don't see how setting bounties on people that you don't like is any different than wardeccing them personally.
And the forum alts (like me :D) never undock anyway so, whatever. |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
689
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Posted - 2012.10.08 16:03:00 -
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CCP Punkturis wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:CCP Punkturis wrote:Destination SkillQueue wrote:CCP Paradox wrote:You guys should probably wait for the official Dev blog before panicking and jumping to conclusions. Reading the EVE news article, some things are very strangely written, other things are very off the mark and seem to have been taken completely out of context for what Soundwave will have explained. The dev blog Is written, and is ready to be released very soon.
It's the nature of people to speculate on the info they have available. Since all they currently can rely on is hearsay, that is what they use to speculate and draw conclusions from. If you want to manage this behavior, you're going to have to come out with some concrete facts about the mechanic. Otherwise the article is still the only solid info available, so people will speculate based on it. what do you think the dev blog will be about? Sex. BINGO!
Now, everyone's thinking that she's using Bingo as a statement indicating correctness.
But no, that's the big Winter feature. WiS Bingo nights. You've heard that Eve has an older player base than most MMOs, this is CCP tapping into that.
Later we'll have EVE: cruise ship, with features like shuffleboard, lounge singers and so on.
I'll get my coat. FuzzWork Enterprises http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/ Blueprint calculator, invention chance calculator, isk/m3 Ore chart-á and other 'useful' utilities. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5039
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Posted - 2012.10.08 16:03:00 -
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Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:CCP Punkturis wrote:
haha!
(now I want a bounty!)
Despite coconut being disgusting I'll send one to Iceland if you give a date for the Dev blog.
Dates don't keep well in the mail and they're messy to pit. This post was crafted by a member of the Goonswarm Federation posting cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online posting.
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HollyShocker 2inthestink
State War Academy Caldari State
27
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Posted - 2012.10.08 16:04:00 -
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OK I didnGÇÖt choose any of you basement dwelling trolls to raise, but I will try and help some of you use your limited thought process to maybe comprehend a simple concept. I will try and keep it as simple as possible.
To call someone a coward for alt posting has to be one of the most moronic and juvenile attempt at trolling there ever was or ever will be. My 17 year old son can do better. Hell my 8 year old daughter even.
The internet itself is a curtain we ALL hide behind to say or be who ever or what ever we want. We all hide behind this curtain so we are all cowards using your moronic logic.
Lets imagine for a moment I have a main pilot that has several million skill points. What if I wanted to use this pilot to infiltrate the Goofwaffle federation. If I came to these forums and posted how I really felt about the Goofwaffles do you think I would make it in? Instead I keep this pilot low key and move him in and up the ranks of some lower corps till I got my chance.
I wouldnGÇÖt want to have to train another pilot for months just so I could fly a decent pvp ship all because I shot my mouth off on these forums. So alt posting is not only about not having to answer for your comments, because in reality no one has to answer for what they post here. You could just create a new pilot but why waste your time and resources?
I would hope that many of you would be able to comprehend or grasp this simple concept yet because of the stance you have taken you are either going to be immature, or would feel the need to hang onto your internet bravado to admit you might or could be wrong.
As far as corporations go I would respect any corp. that had the honor and or dignity and self respect to request its members not post on these forums because its mostly filled with basement dwelling trolls and little good will come from it. When you post here you not only rep yourself but your corp. and not all corps want to be represented by a forum troll warrior.
I feel certain the basic logic will elude most of the forum trolls and you will resort to what you do best, so please do not let me keep you from it.
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Large Collidable Object
morons.
2002
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Posted - 2012.10.08 16:05:00 -
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Andski wrote:HollyShocker 2inthestink wrote:People post with alts for many reasons. Some corps have a code of conduct that restricts them from posting on the forums as they represent that corp. Which ones?
IIrc Ev0ke used to have such a rule...
On a side note: does that mean that bounties will be untied from sec status?
Anyway - I'll just put a bounty on my own head an autopilot through new eden like a large collidable space pi+¦ata.
It will be glorious. You know... morons. |
Vertisce Soritenshi
Tactical Vendor of Services and Goods Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage
1759
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Posted - 2012.10.08 16:13:00 -
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Andski wrote:Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:CCP Punkturis wrote:
haha!
(now I want a bounty!)
Despite coconut being disgusting I'll send one to Iceland if you give a date for the Dev blog. Dates don't keep well in the mail and they're messy to pit. For a moment I thought he was asking Punkturis out on a date. That made me think...
For next fanfest there should be a competition of some sort where the reward is dinner with Punkturis. Nobody cares about dining with the CEO...
Thread officially derailed. Topic is now about dinner with Punkturis at the next Fanfest! EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! |
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