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Jim Era
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Posted - 2012.10.09 15:01:00 -
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wat |
Stegas Tyrano
GLU CANU Open Space Consultancy
7
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Posted - 2012.10.09 15:07:00 -
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THIS IS THE BEST BIRTHDAY PRESENT EVAAAR!!!!!!! |
Anslo
BHEI Galactic Construction The Unforgiven Alliance
389
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Posted - 2012.10.09 15:08:00 -
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Gilbaron wrote:Kenpachi Viktor wrote::18 months: Seriously, this is a nice way to introduce a new :jesus feature: Please consider scheduling it as the next major feature after the funky POS is done. there are about 17 things i would consider more important than this but thanks for the heads up, can't wait to see this in a fixed eve
I was wondering when a nul tard would come in denouncing this awesome addition |
Kenpachi Viktor
Gradient Electus Matari
210
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Posted - 2012.10.09 15:10:00 -
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Gilbaron wrote:Kenpachi Viktor wrote::18 months: Seriously, this is a nice way to introduce a new :jesus feature: Please consider scheduling it as the next major feature after the funky POS is done. there are about 17 things i would consider more important than this but thanks for the heads up, can't wait to see this in a fixed eve
Indeed, there are a large number of things that need attention. But as far as I'm aware, the POS system is the largest in terms of code/art/hours needed, and this is on par with that. What is the point if every race has an Jam/Damp/Disruptor/ ship etc? Not every race has to be a fluffy little mirror of each other, it's seriously not needed. Things like Gallente having the only drone BS and Caldari having the only ECM BS are incredibly cool distinctions that only add to EVE in both game play value and flavour. |
oldbutfeelingyoung
Perkone Caldari State
703
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Posted - 2012.10.09 15:35:00 -
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So its nice to see that Team Avatar still lives and even a reply from From Unifex in it But again this is nothing new ,we already knew that you guys were prototyping. What you just said CCP Bayesian the same as a few months back .
If you can show some gameplay at fanfest ,fine with me ,go ahead ,maybe there will be less anti WIS people but the reason ,not being able to show something to back up your words is beyond me
If Dust has social areas ,then vanishing the blog is not an CCP decision ,but an all exclusive Sony decision |
oldbutfeelingyoung
Perkone Caldari State
703
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Posted - 2012.10.09 15:38:00 -
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CCP Unifex wrote:It has been fantastic to see the Avatar team show everyone that there is meaningful gameplay using more than just your ship as your agent in the EVE Universe. The prototyping work they have done in Unity has allowed them to rapidly explore different themes and make a game which is challenging, fun and in the true spirit of EVE.
At CCP we are now making sure that when great gameplay concepts such as these come along, we take time to assess what would be required to take them out of the concept phase, into our engine, through pre-production and into production. We must also consider how it interacts with everything else we are doing both within EVE and CCP as a whole. One of the great achievements of this piece of work is that it has really proved it is possible to rapidly iterate on new experiences without having to make a huge investment up front.
Once this prototype was demoed and I had played it (being beaten by CCP Explorer and team in the process), then came the next part. Working out what would be needed to put this concept into the game for real. The team worked together to put a pre-production and production plan together using what they had learned over the previous months and also the lessons learned from the Incarna efforts from last year.
The result of that planning highlighted that right now, we do not have the time or people to build this without impacting what we can deliver for our players who are flying in space. To create this will mean a considerable investment which will take time to put together and also a new focus for us just at a time when we as a company have another new game coming into the EVE Universe (yes DUST 514, IGÇÖm looking at you).
So, all that being said, we have a great concept to expand the EVE Universe but now is not the right time for us to take that step. ItGÇÖs a step I very much want to take but I want to take it when it wonGÇÖt mean removing developers and focus from flying in space. So, for the time being, watch this space with regards to exploration gameplay for EVE avatars. The Avatar team will now be turning its attention to features it can put out for EVE in our winter expansion and beyond.
So stop DUST and go on with EvE ?
nah just kidding
Again a lot of words ,but nothing to show for mister Unifex Show us what you like about that new Avatar gameplay
If Dust has social areas ,then vanishing the blog is not an CCP decision ,but an all exclusive Sony decision |
MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
607
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Posted - 2012.10.09 15:55:00 -
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CCP Unifex wrote:good stuff. you need to post more often on the forums... kinda sad when a NPC forum troll has more likes then you...
you should have atleast 1000 likes... but unfortuantly i can only like your post once :( Ok, so you've corrected my spelling,do you care to make a valid point? -áThere are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... |
Unforgiven Storm
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
155
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Posted - 2012.10.09 15:57:00 -
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CCP Unifex wrote: (...)
So, all that being said, we have a great concept to expand the EVE Universe but now is not the right time for us to take that step. ItGÇÖs a step I very much want to take but I want to take it when it wonGÇÖt mean removing developers and focus from flying in space. So, for the time being, watch this space with regards to exploration gameplay for EVE avatars. The Avatar team will now be turning its attention to features it can put out for EVE in our winter expansion and beyond.
After
- you give us a new login system where I can change chars in the same account without the need to login again
- you gives a new and improved POS (POS revamp)
- you fix sov
- you fix the black ops and electronic attack ships
- you find a proper role for titans and supers in the battle field
- you finished the ships tiercide (including caps)
- you give us all the remaining ships (including caps) with the shader v3 skins
- you allow us to fly customized painted ships
- You replace the ugliest ships in this game with new hulls
- you give us a new overview, local, chats and industry UI, you fix the inventory windows
- You fix null-sec industry
- you fix moon mining
- you improve invention and manufacturing mechanics;
- you give alliances the proper tools to tax corps, mining and moon mining, get rent money from (blue) POS in their space
- you give alliances, corps and players tools to make military , trade, ratting, mining, moon mining agreements (a.k.a treaties)
- you give us more t3 ships
- you give us more end-of-game contents for vets like achievements, more skills, more caps like carriers T2
- you fix/improve more and more visual effects
- you make mining fun (I can dream right?)
- and you fix the problems that **** of PI dudes now for 2 years and maybe throw them a couple more skills to train
you go right ahead, give us the avatars and station walking, until then, this please ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Allow us to change characters of the same account without the need to logout and put the password again. |
Xenuria
Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet
606
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Posted - 2012.10.09 15:59:00 -
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When do we get hats? Xenuria CSM 8 |
Anslo
BHEI Galactic Construction The Unforgiven Alliance
389
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Posted - 2012.10.09 16:00:00 -
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Unforgiven Storm wrote: SANDBOX IN MY WAY ONLY!!!
People like you are a hindrance to this game becoming the greatest SCI FI SIMULATOR on the planet. Kindly biomass. |
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PinkKnife
L F C Ethereal Dawn
251
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Posted - 2012.10.09 16:03:00 -
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So WIS is all but dead then, Huzzah
Why not just hire more people <.< |
oldbutfeelingyoung
Perkone Caldari State
703
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Posted - 2012.10.09 16:07:00 -
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Anslo wrote:Unforgiven Storm wrote: SANDBOX IN MY WAY ONLY!!!
People like you are a hindrance to this game becoming the greatest SCI FI SIMULATOR on the planet. Kindly biomass.
No ,he does not have to . A lot of people want WIS ,including me ,but to keep everybody happy, bugchasing EvE and make it look better has to go on.
If that means WIS comes later ok with me
If Dust has social areas ,then vanishing the blog is not an CCP decision ,but an all exclusive Sony decision |
Taiwanistan
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
269
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Posted - 2012.10.09 16:19:00 -
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" when we have a feature that is its own functional ecosystem of gameplay then hooks into the greater ecosystem of EVE as a whole, and it provides good replayability."
-gameplay -stand alone ecosystem -connection with greater EVE ecosystem
A bunch of dudes dressing up and emoting each other is not any of the above. I am glad TA has indicated that they understand this, and are not going to go the quick and dirty route. wis is nothing but bunch of dudes dressing up emoting each other. |
Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
1238
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Posted - 2012.10.09 16:25:00 -
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Cant wait for next fanfest. Hopefully you can put skeptics in their place (deep in a station getting radiation poisoning). |
oldbutfeelingyoung
Perkone Caldari State
704
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Posted - 2012.10.09 16:28:00 -
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Taiwanistan wrote:" when we have a feature that is its own functional ecosystem of gameplay then hooks into the greater ecosystem of EVE as a whole, and it provides good replayability."
-gameplay -stand alone ecosystem -connection with greater EVE ecosystem
A bunch of dudes dressing up and emoting each other is not any of the above. I am glad TA has indicated that they understand this, and are not going to go the quick and dirty route.
That makes a lot more people happy ,believe me ,but we still don,t know what to expect with this so called gameplay If Dust has social areas ,then vanishing the blog is not an CCP decision ,but an all exclusive Sony decision |
Shiroh Yatamii
Alexylva Paradox
61
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Posted - 2012.10.09 16:53:00 -
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I'm completely down with this! It would be a new area of the game entirely, meaning older players with more assets do not automatically have an advantage over newer players who may in fact be more cunning.
Really, I'm just looking forwad to killing people outside of their pods. I really really am. You'll give us assault rifles, right? |
Jonah Gravenstein
Mahatma Cote Temporal Research
1578
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Posted - 2012.10.09 16:58:00 -
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By assault rifle you mean one of these, right? Homo sapiens non urinat in ventum -á-á-á ---CCP can't patch stupid--- |
Anslo
BHEI Galactic Construction The Unforgiven Alliance
394
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Posted - 2012.10.09 16:59:00 -
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This is the only acceptable form of weapon for Eve.
Overkill best kill. |
Jonah Gravenstein
Mahatma Cote Temporal Research
1578
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Posted - 2012.10.09 17:00:00 -
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Anslo wrote:This is the only acceptable form of weapon for Eve. Overkill best kill.
I'm Minmatar sir, bringing moar Dakka is compulsory. Homo sapiens non urinat in ventum -á-á-á ---CCP can't patch stupid--- |
Rico Minali
Sons Of 0din Dark Therapy
1061
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Posted - 2012.10.09 17:08:00 -
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This is what Avatar based gameplay should be for. Add in the social station stuff too by all means but what any good scifi needs is a tense atmosphere and heavy breathing in EVA suits just waiting for teh next bad thing to happen... Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing. |
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Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
2764
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Posted - 2012.10.09 17:08:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Anslo wrote:This is the only acceptable form of weapon for Eve. Overkill best kill. I'm Minmatar sir, bringing moar Dakka is compulsory.
Something like this? |
Jonah Gravenstein
Mahatma Cote Temporal Research
1578
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Posted - 2012.10.09 17:11:00 -
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Yarp, definitely something like that, if at first you don't succeed, bring more firepower. Homo sapiens non urinat in ventum -á-á-á ---CCP can't patch stupid--- |
Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
47
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Posted - 2012.10.09 17:13:00 -
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What with balance? Stealth mode? Autotargeting? ( I hope not ) Skills???
Or "here's OP shotgun, point it away from you, when you hear something, just shoot, shoot, shoot"? About WIS |
Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
1241
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Posted - 2012.10.09 17:19:00 -
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Bagrat Skalski wrote:What with balance? Stealth mode? Autotargeting? ( I hope not ) Skills???
Or "here's OP shotgun, point it away from you, when you hear something, just shoot, shoot, shoot"?
Skills? Skills?! SKILLS! Of course. its not a part of eve without skills. Door repair lvl 4 Holding breath lvl 3 Shotgun spread lvl 5 Cowering in corner lvl 2 Trigger press due to structure creaking lvl 5 |
Scrapyard Bob
EVE University Ivy League
1120
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Posted - 2012.10.09 17:28:00 -
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CCP Bayesian wrote: One example of a link with EVE gameplay weGÇÖre thinking of would be to put implant manufacture into the hands of players and making avatar gameplay part of the resource gathering chain it has. We want to make Avatar gameplay a viable and vibrant part of the Universe without forcing anyone that doesnGÇÖt want to use it from having to use it.
Which is all well and good, but the developers need to stop inventing items which are only constructed from a single source of materials. Anything above frigate / entry level stuff should pull from multiple existing *and* new material sources. When creating recipes or adjusting existing recipes, you should be looking for opportunities to make use of existing materials that are currently undesired due to low demand.
Such as: - The "biological" Planetary Interaction products - The "garbage" salvaged materials (contaminated, fried interface, defective current pumps) - Gas mining output - R.A.M. and R.Db - Ice products - Moon materials - Plain old minerals |
Anslo
BHEI Galactic Construction The Unforgiven Alliance
394
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Posted - 2012.10.09 17:30:00 -
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Scrapyard Bob wrote: - The "biological" Planetary Interaction products
Requesting Bacterial Armor Reps for my ship that pulses blue. |
Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
911
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Posted - 2012.10.09 17:31:00 -
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CCP Bayesian wrote:. The inspiration for this comes from a lot of different places, back to the original Aliens films, Event Horizon, the cleanup of Chernobyl, high-altitude mountaineering, games such as Space Hulk, Minecraft and Moonbase Alpha, to name just a few. I'll be back to comment further once I've changed my underwear. Titans were never meant to be "cost effective", its a huge ****.-á- CCP Oveur, 2006
~If you want a picture of the future of WiS, imagine a spaceship, stamping on an avatar's face. Forever. |
Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
1241
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Posted - 2012.10.09 17:40:00 -
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Would be nice if it supplied both itself, eve and dust materials with multi useful looting. Find a cache of ancient weapons, like x25 Blood Raider laser rifles you can sell to dusters or trade to your personal dust character. Or reprocess the same equipment for new implant or EVA suit salvage. |
Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
912
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Posted - 2012.10.09 18:04:00 -
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CCP Bayesian wrote:The gameplay premise is simple, players move through our abandoned structures with their fitted Extra-Vehicular Activity suit, using their wits, tools and teammates to deal with the hazardous environment. I take this to mean that our avatars won't appear in their current 'Incarna' state of flying jackets/aviator shades/leather boots? While this would be a logical conclusion of operating in hazardous environments, it will inevitably disappoint some. Any thoughts on customising EVA-suits like we currently do for our avatars in the character creator? I really want to just stomp around in a personalised powered spacesuit.
At the same time, WiS needs to make players feel vulnerable. We're omnipotent in our spaceships but vulnerable without the safety of a pod, so turn the Eve player's conceptions upside down and remove the comforts of EHP and DPS. If WiS becomes another environment where superpowerful demigods fry thousands of NPCs at a time with mega pulse lasers then all you're doing is replicating the existing gameplay with some different graphics and you may as well save it for DUST. PvE in WiS should be more The Sentinel than Doom , and PvP should be more Spy Vs Spy than Team Fortress 2.
Quote:WeGÇÖve even allowed two teams into the environment to really let all hell break loose. Only two?
Quote:One example of a link with EVE gameplay weGÇÖre thinking of would be to put implant manufacture into the hands of players and making avatar gameplay part of the resource gathering chain it has. We want to make Avatar gameplay a viable and vibrant part of the Universe without forcing anyone that doesnGÇÖt want to use it from having to use it. This is exactly the sort of step I was hoping for, if WiS is going to be anything more than a 2 minute distraction it needs to link in to the wider ecosytem and it needs to have teeth. Provide those things, and we're talking.
Quote:A benefit from the EVA game is that a lot of the technology that would need to be developed to properly deliver the EVA experience would be directly useful in providing social areas and tools in stations. Good to see this too, and a thumb in the eye to those who protested about the idea of gameplay contaminating their precious dress-up simulator
Quote:That just sounds like one idea...
We decided to concentrate in depth on the one idea that has kept resurfacing from lots of different places within the company. WeGÇÖve had several others and collected a lot both internally and from the forums. One example would be a Station based espionage system. The beauty of the EVE Universe is that these ideas arenGÇÖt mutually exclusive for the most part. So whilst I think we are fairly sure of the initial gameplay direction there is lots of scope for expansion. Here's another idea: once you implement destructible stations, the only way to recover the contents of your hangar from the ruin involves infiltrating it through WiS mechanics (or hiring someone else to do it for you) so that you can deactivate the personal security fields and locate the right section of the hull to cutting-laser through and tractor your junk out.
(this means you have to implement destructible stations)
(implement destructible stations) Titans were never meant to be "cost effective", its a huge ****.-á- CCP Oveur, 2006
~If you want a picture of the future of WiS, imagine a spaceship, stamping on an avatar's face. Forever. |
Wolf Kruol
Sinisenkuun Laguuni GREATER ITAMO MAFIA
20
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Posted - 2012.10.09 18:12:00 -
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Sounds exciting concept. I would like to add trophy room in the CQ as wells as when we can walk in stations we can have our own bars... I like to make my stripclub with all those exotic chicks I have saved up.. Need to keep the show going while players buy drinks and have a smoke...
I can tell them great stories of my exploits in the old days in eve universe to the new pups..
Also players need to age... So I need my beer gut in a few years.. GÇ£If you're very very stupid? How can you possibly realize you're very very stupid?
You have to be relatively intelligent to realize how stupid you really are!GÇ¥ |
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