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Atomyc'al
BACKFIRE Squad
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Posted - 2012.10.12 12:51:00 -
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Aziesta wrote:Atomyc'al wrote:Hello, I am an old eve player, I have 3 accounts... and less and less time to play due to work. I do love the game, I have never paid with real money because the work that i do hardly brings enough money to survive / pay bills. Option 3: You downgrade to the number of accounts you can afford.
myeah... it saddens me to say this, but most likely i will use Option 4: abort the game. |
Derath Ellecon
Washburne Holdings Situation: Normal
382
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Posted - 2012.10.12 12:51:00 -
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Ronix Aideron wrote:I am stepping way out on a limb with this comment, but here is my two cents.
Why would CCP want to taylor toward players that do not spend real money? You are basically asking for market manipulation so you can continue to play for free. If you can't afford PLEX with ISK then save up ISK or focus on your priorities in real life. As a new player $10 a month for EVE is about the least expensive entertainment I have access to.
Renton Brax wrote:Yes lets make PLEX cheaper so we can all continue to play for free, I mean, like, CCP doesn't have overheads right? EVE is a charity right?
Idiots abound LVL4
Nobody plays EVE for free. The plex system is CCP's highest profit margin for monthly game time. CCP probably loves when plex is a bit on the high side, as it is an incentive for people to BUY plex to sell for isk (which is when they get their money). Of course it is a balance as they need people willing to buy the plex for isk as well. |
Atomyc'al
BACKFIRE Squad
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Posted - 2012.10.12 12:52:00 -
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Jack Miton wrote:I don't always post on the EVE forums, but when I do it's in a whiny 'EVE is dieing' thread.
Dude, just get a RL job if you can't afford plex.
glad to do so... you have one for me? |
Atomyc'al
BACKFIRE Squad
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Posted - 2012.10.12 12:58:00 -
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Alpheias wrote:Either get a job so you can afford all of your interests, or stop paying for adult sites.
people pay for adult sites ??? i gotta make me one of those! |
Atomyc'al
BACKFIRE Squad
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Posted - 2012.10.12 13:14:00 -
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Zagdul wrote:@OP:
There comes a time where paying $15 a month is worth more than the time you'd invest grinding for a PLEX.
You need to decide when that time is instead of coming here to complain on the forums.
If you cannot afford $15 a month to play EVE, you should re-address your life and probably shouldn't be playing it in the first place.
you are missing the point. This point is written by me, but is not only about me ! There are / were more people in my situation... and they might quit (or have already done so). And if a good majorty of the 'non-paying' players quit... to whom will you sell your precious PLEX ? what will happend to the game? will you have enough people to play with?
This post was made to serve as a friendly warning. It's my view on things. We'll see what the future holds for us. I doubt it will reach the ears of those I wish. |
Robert De'Arneth
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Posted - 2012.10.12 13:23:00 -
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Atomyc'al wrote:Zagdul wrote:@OP:
There comes a time where paying $15 a month is worth more than the time you'd invest grinding for a PLEX.
You need to decide when that time is instead of coming here to complain on the forums.
If you cannot afford $15 a month to play EVE, you should re-address your life and probably shouldn't be playing it in the first place. you are missing the point. This point is written by me, but is not only about me ! There are / were more people in my situation... and they might quit (or have already done so). And if a good majorty of the 'non-paying' players quit... to whom will you sell your precious PLEX ? what will happend to the game? will you have enough people to play with? This post was made to serve as a friendly warning. It's my view on things. We'll see what the future holds for us. I doubt it will reach the ears of those I wish.
It did not seem like a freindly warning, it seemed more like a cry thread that states you need plex to play, we are not here to help you make isk for plex, nor is CCP. I will never feel bad about people who use isk to play, I would be fine if they removed plex, and just made a feture to buy ISK. Now that I think on it, this would seem the best way to halt plex prices. You have not lived until you have been Wated by Jim!!-á-á |
Idris Helion
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.10.12 13:25:00 -
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Renton Brax wrote:Yes lets make PLEX cheaper so we can all continue to play for free, I mean, like, CCP doesn't have overheads right? EVE is a charity right?
The thing is, using PLEX for game-time is not free. You're just spending your time rather than your money -- and it's usually a really lousy exchange-ratio, because your RL time is worth way more. Every PLEX in the game represents RL money that someone used to purchase the PLEX in the first place. So really, all PLEX really is is a mechanism to subcontract labor inside of EVE. I have money but no time, so I'll buy a PLEX and convert it to ISK to buy something I want. The ISK I just "bought" comes from other players who spent time in-game doing stuff like missioning. So *really*, I paid them to do the work I was unable or unwilling to do.
I'm aware that there are a lot of EVE players who are not well-heeled, but if ten or fifteen bucks a month is really beyond their capacity, they need to seriously step back and think about whether playing a damned video game is the best use of their time. Rent, food, transport, clothes for the kids, etc. -- all that stuff is far more important.
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Vertisce Soritenshi
Tactical Vendor of Services and Goods Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage
1788
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Posted - 2012.10.12 13:28:00 -
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Supply and Demand. EVE is saved! Everybody rejoice.
/thread EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! |
Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
894
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Posted - 2012.10.12 13:45:00 -
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Zagdul wrote:Renton Brax wrote:Yes lets make PLEX cheaper so we can all continue to play for free, I mean, like, CCP doesn't have overheads right? EVE is a charity right? Someone paid real money to put that PLEX on the market. CCP got paid.
Yes, of course, Zagdul, that is indeed a fact, someone paid real money for that PLEX.
Downside to the equation is that those "someone's" who are paying real money to buy PLEX to put onto the market are diminishing, along with real-world economies. World economy = bad, Real money buying PLEX = less.
I'm quite happy with the PLEX prices. It means if someone buys a PLEX with real money (rather buy 12 at a time), they get more "bang per buck" in-game with ISK returns.
Just saying, equations. two-sides.
o7.
The universe is an ancient desert, a vast wasteland with only occasional habitable planets as oases. We Fremen, comfortable with deserts, shall now venture into another. - STILGAR, From the Sietch to the Stars. |
Derath Ellecon
Washburne Holdings Situation: Normal
382
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Posted - 2012.10.12 13:49:00 -
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Atomyc'al wrote:Zagdul wrote:@OP:
There comes a time where paying $15 a month is worth more than the time you'd invest grinding for a PLEX.
You need to decide when that time is instead of coming here to complain on the forums.
If you cannot afford $15 a month to play EVE, you should re-address your life and probably shouldn't be playing it in the first place. you are missing the point. This point is written by me, but is not only about me ! There are / were more people in my situation... and they might quit (or have already done so). And if a good majorty of the 'non-paying' players quit... to whom will you sell your precious PLEX ? what will happend to the game? will you have enough people to play with? This post was made to serve as a friendly warning. It's my view on things. We'll see what the future holds for us. I doubt it will reach the ears of those I wish.
Total bunk. Short term it doesnt matter if PLEXing player quite. CCP got their PLEX money when the person BOUGHT it, not when you use it to extend gametime.
So say a bunch of people let their accounts lapse due to high PLEX prices. Eventually demand drops for plex in game, then PLEX prices fall and those players re-subscribe their accounts again, demand rises... market at work.
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Atomyc'al
BACKFIRE Squad
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Posted - 2012.10.12 13:54:00 -
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Robert De'Arneth wrote:[quote=Atomyc'al][quote=Zagdul]@OP:
It did not seem like a freindly warning, it seemed more like a cry thread that states you need plex to play, we are not here to help you make isk for plex, nor is CCP. I will never feel bad about people who use isk to play, I would be fine if they removed plex, and just made a feture to buy ISK. Now that I think on it, this would seem the best way to halt plex prices.
it may also be a 'cry thread' if you want to. i'm sensing that the game is going towards a descending path. maybe i'm wrong. maybe it's just me. who knows what the future holds. i was trying to sound the alarm for something i thought might endanger the future of the game.
but what do i know? i'm only 99% of the time right. |
Elvis Fett
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
75
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Posted - 2012.10.12 15:06:00 -
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You need to spend less time writing novels to post on the EVE-O forums and more time looking for a better job. If you can't even afford $10 a month for entertainment, you desperately need to better your financial situation. That's like a pack of cigarettes. My 12 year old cousin that plays EVE (He's been playing since he was 8), pays his own monthly subscription. A 12y/o can afford a $10 a month subscription, but you can't?
Also how does lower plex prices " Makes the game fun to play again." and "Rekindles the spark "? Plex doesn't effect game play. If Plex was 100mil it would still be the same game. |
Chandaris
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
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Posted - 2012.10.12 15:22:00 -
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Yes sorry, if you can't afford 15$ a month to play your favorite game, you have bigger problems and could be spending all that time you spend grinding ISK for your plex, I dunno.. Making money?
People come, people go.. your situation is not like that of the majority, and EVE is not dying regardless of your reasons for thinking it is.
Feel bad for you mate, but it's not a charity. If you insist on paying w/ plex and plex only, then you had better get grinding.. The price of plex is always going to fluctuate |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
2530
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Posted - 2012.10.12 15:28:00 -
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Prices rise, prices fall. This particular price increase was easily predictable after the announcement of the cash tournament PLEX entry fee. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Darth Khasei
Sunstar Business Ventures Inc.
0
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Posted - 2012.10.12 15:31:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight, out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set as the rest of the player base. .
Yup.
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Lugia3
Shydow Imperium
32
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Posted - 2012.10.12 15:32:00 -
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Renton Brax wrote:Yes lets make PLEX cheaper so we can all continue to play for free, I mean, like, CCP doesn't have overheads right? EVE is a charity right?
CCP gets 5 more USD for each person who uses PLEX, rather than subscriptions. Will sell wallet space for ISK. |
Undeniable Chuck
Forced Penetration
2
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Posted - 2012.10.12 15:38:00 -
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Look at all these bads who dont know how to run a FW alt to make more isk than you can imagine. |
Jhan Niber
Big Johnson's
11
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Posted - 2012.10.12 16:49:00 -
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It's amazing how many people still don't understand that every account is paid for with real cash, or that if it's easier to make ISK then all prices will go up, especially PLEX. |
Lykouleon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
537
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Posted - 2012.10.12 17:40:00 -
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EVE is dying (again)! Everyone off the boat (again), women and children first with a security deposit! Lykouleon > CYNO ME CLOSER SO I CAN HIT THEM WITH MY SWORD |
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