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Musaab Osman
Rogue Code
5
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Posted - 2012.10.13 15:47:00 -
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ISD TYPE40 wrote:I will be very clear and polite about this. Open discussion about things like this are fine, most people seem to be staying polite and are just voicing their opinions, which is great.
What is not great, is against the rules and will not be tolerated is comparing CCP or the ISD to the massacre of Jewish people in the Holocaust. I don't think I should have to explain why that is wrong. Anyone caught doing that again will be at risk of a forum warning and/or a permanent revocation of their forum access. If you want to debate this matter, then so be it, but please have some respect for yourselves and other forum users and post decently and sensibly- ISD Type40.
I love this world. You can say anything about anything, but never ever mention Jews or the Holocaust. That's off limits. I feel a kinship with Mahmud Ahmedinejad. |
Becka Goldbeck
2
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Posted - 2012.10.13 15:58:00 -
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Musaab Osman wrote:
I love this world. You can say anything about anything, but never ever mention Jews or the Holocaust. That's off limits. I feel a kinship with Mahmud Ahmedinejad.
You're allowed to talk about the slaughter of the noble Native American at the hands of the evil white invaders. You just have to understand that special rules apply to God's Chosen People. |
Musaab Osman
Rogue Code
5
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Posted - 2012.10.13 16:04:00 -
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Becka Goldbeck wrote:Musaab Osman wrote:
I love this world. You can say anything about anything, but never ever mention Jews or the Holocaust. That's off limits. I feel a kinship with Mahmud Ahmedinejad.
You're allowed to talk about the slaughter of the noble Native American at the hands of the evil white invaders. You just have to understand that special rules apply to God's Chosen People.
They were chosen, and then disobeyed. They even had Moses (peace be upon him) facepalming. That's why they always get punished and will continue to be so in the future. Islam on the rise :) |
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ISD TYPE40
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
1747
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Posted - 2012.10.13 16:06:00 -
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Please keep the thread on topic. Discussion of religion is not allowed, it only ever leads to arguments. ISD Type40 Lt. Commander Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Asuri Kinnes
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
622
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Posted - 2012.10.13 16:08:00 -
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RAGE QU1T wrote:Yes,
indeed this is not a troll, in light of today's activites by are fav ISD's with reigning brimstone and fire i am motivated in creating forums out of the jurisdiction of our favorite content control friends! Ummmmm -
no?
Interdict Hi-Sec - it's the only way to be sure... |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
2548
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Posted - 2012.10.13 16:19:00 -
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1: We have VERY tolerant moderators on this forum. Perhaps that is the problem, as that makes it a little harder to distinguish when you have "crossed the line".
2: PRIVATELY OWNED message board that has a content rating that they need to occasionally abide by as it is their face to the general public. This means that "Freedom of Speech" is a privilege here, not a right. Abuse it and lose it.
3: I have yet to see a thread locked that a reasonable argument could not be made for locking.
4: There are already unaffiliated message boards created for the sole purpose of avoiding moderation.
5: Different rules apply in game vs. on the boards. This is not a difficult concept.
6: One of the more pointless threads I've ever read. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Musaab Osman
Rogue Code
8
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Posted - 2012.10.13 16:25:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:1: We have VERY tolerant moderators on this forum. Perhaps that is the problem, as that makes it a little harder to distinguish when you have "crossed the line".
You auditioning? |
Wodensun
ZeroSec Dragon Swarm Dynasty
3
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Posted - 2012.10.13 16:32:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Becka Goldbeck wrote:The ISD's are like deranged hall monitors
Drunk on power and seeking attention and praise from their masters.
It's absolutely pathetic. Whats pathetic is people defending bad posters who throw personal insults at others and think its dicussing something.
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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
2552
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Posted - 2012.10.13 17:00:00 -
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Musaab Osman wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:1: We have VERY tolerant moderators on this forum. Perhaps that is the problem, as that makes it a little harder to distinguish when you have "crossed the line". You auditioning?
No, just being an adult that has been to other, far more strict, game related message boards.
Why should I audition when the staff they have are doing fine.
Perhaps you should stop by the World of Tanks message boards and make a few snide comments. See how many you get away with before being perma banned. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Skaz
Skazmanian Industries
24
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Posted - 2012.10.13 18:04:00 -
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This discussion reminds me of this
http://youtu.be/z5tZMDBXTRQ |
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Malphilos
State War Academy Caldari State
180
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Posted - 2012.10.13 22:27:00 -
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Destiny Corrupted wrote: You are wrong. I have the entitlement to make use of the product I paid for, as long as I don't break the EULA.
FYI, I'm pretty sure you didn't pay for the forums, and they can turn EVE off anytime they want and you can never use it again.
What you paid for is a limited license subject to CCP's approval.
You're "entitled" to squat.
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Becka Goldbeck
9
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Posted - 2012.10.13 23:11:00 -
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Malphilos wrote:Destiny Corrupted wrote: You are wrong. I have the entitlement to make use of the product I paid for, as long as I don't break the EULA.
FYI, I'm pretty sure you didn't pay for the forums, and they can turn EVE off anytime they want and you can never use it again. What you paid for is a limited license subject to CCP's approval. You're "entitled" to squat.
Good thing CCP has people like you and Ranger 1 as their internet legal defense team along with the ISD justice league. I don't know what they would do without you.
Maybe that can go on your gravestone
"Fought valiantly in defense of CCP's virtual property right"
or
"Nobly volunteered to patrol an internet forum locking villainous threads"
That would be nice, it's a nice image at least.
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Name Family Name
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
64
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Posted - 2012.10.14 01:25:00 -
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Name Family Name wrote:
EDIT: Comparing CCP and the ISD to the Holocaust is most definitely against the EULA and Forum Rules - ISD Type40.
It's quite typical Kapos like you don't realize their shortcomings, of course I don't compare the holocaust to a gaming forum, yet the mode of action remains the same.
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Arsedestroyer
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
55
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Posted - 2012.10.14 01:45:00 -
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Name Family Name wrote: It's quite typical Kapos like you don't realize their shortcomings, of course I don't compare the holocaust to a gaming forum, yet the mode of action remains the same.
You're wrong - you assume isds to comprehend analogies. Prepare to be banned. |
Malphilos
State War Academy Caldari State
180
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Posted - 2012.10.14 03:30:00 -
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Becka Goldbeck wrote:Good thing CCP has people like you and Ranger 1 as their internet legal defense team ....
I'm not defending anything, I'm laughing at the infantile notion of entitlement.
The righteous foot stomping amuses.
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Mirima Thurander
The 8th Tribe Seraphim Dragoons.
312
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Posted - 2012.10.14 03:44:00 -
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Malphilos wrote:Becka Goldbeck wrote:Good thing CCP has people like you and Ranger 1 as their internet legal defense team .... I'm not defending anything, I'm laughing at the infantile notion of entitlement. The righteous foot stomping amuses.
Im glad someone still practice's the hidden arts, you keep at it till they catch on and i will get a good LoL out of it.
A Dark time comes. A time of terror comes. My time. If it offends you. Stop me. |
Opertone
Aurora Empire Fuzzy Nut Attack Squirrels
130
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Posted - 2012.10.14 03:58:00 -
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oh nice! i support!
we do need a 'free for all' forum section - it would be lovely - you can redirect all hate and trolling there.
And aggression is one of man's primal needs. You do need to be bad and in fact it acts as a stress relief. |
Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
1202
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Posted - 2012.10.14 03:58:00 -
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Malphilos wrote:Destiny Corrupted wrote: You are wrong. I have the entitlement to make use of the product I paid for, as long as I don't break the EULA.
FYI, I'm pretty sure you didn't pay for the forums, and they can turn EVE off anytime they want and you can never use it again. What you paid for is a limited license subject to CCP's approval. You're "entitled" to squat. This is not how contract law works. (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST) |
usrevenge
Enlightened Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
3
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Posted - 2012.10.14 04:55:00 -
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Destiny Corrupted wrote:I'd actually like to see a "dark alley" forum section that has no moderation, but also limits posting to non-NPC-corp characters that have existed for at least a year.
i'd like this, the only moderation can be against unsafe links and RMT and stuff, let players vote to block or something which removes the post? |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
2556
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Posted - 2012.10.14 06:04:00 -
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Destiny Corrupted wrote:Malphilos wrote:Destiny Corrupted wrote: You are wrong. I have the entitlement to make use of the product I paid for, as long as I don't break the EULA.
FYI, I'm pretty sure you didn't pay for the forums, and they can turn EVE off anytime they want and you can never use it again. What you paid for is a limited license subject to CCP's approval. You're "entitled" to squat. This is not how contract law works. Erm, actually, unless you are discussing an essential public utility, yes it is.
You pay for access to the service for a set period of time. If they choose to discontinue the service, they stop taking your money and the service is shut off after... or they offer compensation for unused time. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
2556
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Posted - 2012.10.14 06:05:00 -
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Becka Goldbeck wrote:Malphilos wrote:Destiny Corrupted wrote: You are wrong. I have the entitlement to make use of the product I paid for, as long as I don't break the EULA.
FYI, I'm pretty sure you didn't pay for the forums, and they can turn EVE off anytime they want and you can never use it again. What you paid for is a limited license subject to CCP's approval. You're "entitled" to squat. Good thing CCP has people like you and Ranger 1 as their internet legal defense team along with the ISD justice league. I don't know what they would do without you. Maybe that can go on your gravestone "Fought valiantly in defense of CCP's virtual property rights" or "Nobly volunteered to patrol an internet forum locking villainous threads" That would be nice, it's a nice image at least.
Yes, it's true. There are actually a few adults that post on these forums.
To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Tao Dolcino
Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan
17
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Posted - 2012.10.14 07:06:00 -
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I'm happy that the forums are moderated, for i have absolutely no trust in the wisdom of most humans. The consumer society has made of most of us nothing better than capricious children. If you want to behave without dignity go do that in private, i don't agree to let a public (public in the sense that every paying customer has the same equal access rights to this service) forum polluted by the whims of some frustrated brats (whatever your RL age, i speak here about maturity). ISD people are humans, and are not perfect (you are ?), but i trust them much more than the average poster because they have to think twice before to use their keyboard. Anarchy is not the mess, it's when you become wise enough to not need rules anymore. We are still very far from it. Sadly i even think that we are evoluating in the opposite direction.
You are not happy about ISD's moderation ? But look for a moment at what kind of "moderation" you "freedom warriors" bring daily in our forums : intolerance, insults, stupidity, vulgarity, wasting a post simply because it doesn't pleasse you... you are censoring much more that the ISD do, with agressivity, disdain, and all that based only on your egoist whims. Wonderful ambiance you are bringing by your contributions. So, about your criticisms toward ISD : "First cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye". |
Becka Goldbeck
9
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Posted - 2012.10.14 09:29:00 -
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Tao Dolcino wrote:I'm happy that the forums are moderated, for i have absolutely no trust in the wisdom of most humans.
Me neither. You're a good example
You do realize that moderators are human?
People who eagerly volunteer their time to gain just a little bit of power, are usually prone to abuse it as it feeds their ego. We see this all the time with petty functionaries in real life and the same it true with internet hall monitors (ISD).
Ranger 1 on his internet lawyering wrote: Yes, it's true. There are actually a few adults that post on these forums.
See this guy agrees with me about ego and self-important delusion. |
captain foivos
State War Academy Caldari State
105
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Posted - 2012.10.14 10:02:00 -
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I guess I clicked on the wrong thread. Really though, if you want some ISD free forums, and you have ten dollars, sign up for Something Awful. |
ACE McFACE
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
832
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Posted - 2012.10.14 11:07:00 -
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Hrothgar Nilsson wrote:James Amril-Sperg wrote:Hrothgar Nilsson wrote:Ermm, just go to a non-CCP EVE forum.
k.com failheap Kugutsumen is censored sperg sperg sperg? Eh, guess not sperg sperg sperg. I didn't abbreviate it because of censorship, rather, because I didn't care to type it out and practically everybody knows what k.com refers to. Looks like you're the last one to get the memo. Posting to confirm I had no idea by what you meant by "k.com" "7 pages of people insulting me - aka trolling" - Lady Hofstedar What s/he (probobly he) meant: "7 pages of people disagreeing with my terrible idea - aka trolling" - Lady Hofstedar |
Malphilos
State War Academy Caldari State
180
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Posted - 2012.10.14 13:31:00 -
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Becka Goldbeck wrote:People who eagerly volunteer their time to gain just a little bit of power, are usually prone to abuse it as it feeds their ego.
So, what do we say about people who are then jealous and resentful of that "little bit of power"? How do their egos figure into things? Might they be so hurt that they become prone to abuse?
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Becka Goldbeck
10
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Posted - 2012.10.14 14:18:00 -
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Malphilos wrote:Becka Goldbeck wrote:People who eagerly volunteer their time to gain just a little bit of power, are usually prone to abuse it as it feeds their ego. So, what do we say about people who are then jealous and resentful of that "little bit of power"? How do their egos figure into things? Might they be so hurt that they become prone to abuse?
You don't need to feel any of those things to despise small people who lust for minuscule amounts of power. Though I'm not sure which is worse, them or people who desperately try to suck up to them.
I'm imagining a school crossing guard wearing his little badge and orange sash screaming at people on the sidewalk, and you on the side of the road clapping and applauding hoping he'll hold hands with you and walk you home. |
Undeniable Chuck
Forced Penetration
2
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Posted - 2012.10.14 14:25:00 -
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They really need the fiery cesspit on Eve-O. |
Gorgeous Dre
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.10.14 14:25:00 -
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Destiny Corrupted wrote:I'd actually like to see a "dark alley" forum section that has no moderation, but also limits posting to non-NPC-corp characters that have existed for at least a year.
I like how you make a list of criteria that YOU conveniently already meet.
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Gorgeous Dre
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.10.14 14:27:00 -
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Tao Dolcino wrote:I'm happy that the forums are moderated, for i have absolutely no trust in the wisdom of most humans. The consumer society has made of most of us nothing better than capricious children. If you want to behave without dignity go do that in private, i don't agree to let a public (public in the sense that every paying customer has the same equal access rights to this service) forum polluted by the whims of some frustrated brats (whatever your RL age, i speak here about maturity). ISD people are humans, and are not perfect (you are ?), but i trust them much more than the average poster because they have to think twice before to use their keyboard. Anarchy is not the mess, it's when you become wise enough to not need rules anymore. We are still very far from it. Sadly i even think that we are evoluating in the opposite direction.
You are not happy about ISD's moderation ? But look for a moment at what kind of "moderation" you "freedom warriors" bring daily in our forums : intolerance, insults, stupidity, vulgarity, wasting a post simply because it doesn't pleasse you... you are censoring much more that the ISD do, with agressivity, disdain, and all that based only on your egoist whims. Wonderful ambiance you are bringing by your contributions. So, about your criticisms toward ISD : "First cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye".
ISD's shut down a joke thread the other day because people were "joke bashing" ISD's.
So no....they don't just moderate unruly behavior. They shut down perfectly legit threads simply because the OP is criticizing something in game that THEY like.
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