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SUNNY 30-09-2012
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.10.17 13:53:00 -
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well - this is my very very 1st post in the eve universe =)
i started eve 17 days ago i started out in mining - i currently run a covetor isk flow seems ok - i will close out todays mining income with 25m isk for the day ( is that a good daily income for a new player ? ) =\
i play mmo's to pvp thats all - pvp
when i played wow - i was a rogue and - well a rogue could solo pvp np in wow
so i wrote all that to ask this : i would like to play a rogue type style again - so i am going to skill up for stealth bomber / and its fittings
is solo stealth bomber pvp a realistic aim in eve ? in other words - can i solo pvp as a stealth bomber ?
or
do i need to skill up for other ship types ?
one thing that is a constant about my style is i am a solo player ( so much easier to make ones own schedule / style / tactics / and not have to rely on others )
am i in for a rude awakening as a solo player looking to pvp in eve ?
tyvm for all replies ( even sarcastic ones ) =)
im very enthusiastic to learn - and im about to start my main char on the account for pvp i thought it would be good to ask key questions b4 skilling up for stealth
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Jim Era
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Posted - 2012.10.17 14:02:00 -
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solo and eve do not really go good together. There are people who fly alone but it makes the game much harder and almost impossible to learn because most of the learning in the game comes from player interaction. |
Robert De'Arneth
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Posted - 2012.10.17 14:05:00 -
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Income is subjective, to some 25 mil is a good to some laughable. You have not lived until you have been Wated by Jim!!-á-á |
Doddy
Excidium. Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2012.10.17 14:25:00 -
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Well if you want to pvp why did you train miner? makes no sense.
Stealth bomber works very well solo for what you want. Go into 0.0 and hunt for ratters in battleships doing anomolies. Make sure you do the opposite damage type to the rats in the area (for example a hound using explosive torps in blood raider space) and attack only battleships or non combat ships if you are lucky enough to find them.
You will need to learn how to get a cloaky through bubble camps, how to avoid bait, what not to attack etc, but that is all part of the fun. Flying solo against the world is undoubtedly the best way to learn, as it will always be down to you not some fail fc or nooby logi pilot. Every time you die analyze what went wrong. If you can fraps it and watch it back even better.
Flying solo pvp in eve is considered hard mainly because you don't know whats behind the next gate. When you are flying a cloaky this matters alot less. What you will require is a lot of patience. Thanks to eves stupid local chat mechanic your enemy will always know you are there and often will just hide or change into pvp ships to trap you (except in a wormhole) so you will be relying on them either not paying attention, or getting so used to you that they let thier guard down. |
highonpop
Eve Liberation Force Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2012.10.17 15:08:00 -
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A Stealth bomber outside of nullsec is almost pointless since you can't launch bombs in empire, only use torps. Torps suck vs anything smaller than a cruiser. The bomber's tank is so paper thin that anything big enough to take damage from torps will probably 1 or 2 shot you into oblivion.
Go for a faction cruiser, like a cynabal. Fitted and Flown properly, the cynabal can be a very dangerous ship to someone who doesn't know how to counter it.
Then again, the same can be said for every single ship in eve.
If you want to solo pvp there is 1 thing you need to understand above all else. Aggression timers and how they affect you. Like not being able to dock or jump for a certain period of time. Also, be aware of where you are and what you are in... if you try and tackle somoene in lowsec on a gate or station, the gate guns and station guns will immediately start firing at you. A frigate will almost insta-pop... nullsec has no sentry guns except the ones installed by players on their POS.
You would be best suited to join a pvp corp and learn pvp, then go out on your own.
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Casirio
DEEP-SPACE CO-OP LTD Exhale.
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Posted - 2012.10.17 15:12:00 -
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As was said, solo and Eve do not really go well together. What I recommend, is to get into your bomber and join the Bombers Bar channel in game and go experience what it is like to be part of a big cohesive bombing unit without having to join a corp etc. They pull off some epic ****. But yeah, the best part about Eve is what you can do when you get even just small number of people together. It is so much more fun flying with your buds/corp mates/alliance mates anyways. You will learn that though :) |
SUNNY 30-09-2012
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.10.17 15:45:00 -
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Doddy wrote:Well if you want to pvp why did you train miner? makes no sense.
haha
sorry - i was not clear enough in my post - my miner is onlyyy for isk - isk for pvp ships / fitting
i do spend time trying to understand BC ( battle clinic ) killboard - in one example of a very high ranked player - that person uses mostly Hurricane and Talos =\
reading information such as that gives me the sad impression / but strong indication that stealth bombers may not be the best pvp choice of ship
( im willing to adapt - do what works )
again - i set up a mining char for affording my pvp needs - she is pulling in 25m - 30m / day so far at this stage
i am soon to set up / skill a pvp main char - looks like 2 months at least of skill up for a stealth bomber set up ( my initial reading )
so moving in the right direction from here is very helpful
ty for all info given - awesome feed back already - ty - keep post coming |
Doddy
Excidium. Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2012.10.17 15:48:00 -
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highonpop wrote: The bomber's tank is so paper thin that anything big enough to take damage from torps will probably 1 or 2 shot you into oblivion.
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You shouldn't come into noobie Q&A and spout nonsense tbh, you will give them bad habits. BS cannot hurt a bomber with anything but drones (sig tank ftw), and in the case of AB bomber will take almost a minute to lock even without damps. Bomber takes considerably less than a minute to kill a ratting bs. Low skilled drakes are also a good target, though once players reach decent missile sp they become dangerous and might survive. Best target of all for bombers is sniper tier 3s who are incapable of fighting back and die in a couple of volleys. |
highonpop
Eve Liberation Force Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2012.10.17 15:56:00 -
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Doddy wrote:highonpop wrote: The bomber's tank is so paper thin that anything big enough to take damage from torps will probably 1 or 2 shot you into oblivion.
. You shouldn't come into noobie Q&A and spout nonsense tbh, you will give them bad habits. BS cannot hurt a bomber with anything but drones (sig tank ftw), and in the case of AB bomber will take almost a minute to lock even without damps. Bomber takes considerably less than a minute to kill a ratting bs. Low skilled drakes are also a good target, though once players reach decent missile sp they become dangerous and might survive. Best target of all for bombers is sniper tier 3s who are incapable of fighting back and die in a couple of volleys.
I didnt say a single piece on non-sense. I was actually very factual.
IF the OP goes to nullsec and knows what he is doing, then yes, he could kill a ratting ship in his bomber. But being a new player I doubt they understand the cloaky-*** concept of catching ratters off guard.
IF the OP stays in highsec, a bomber is a very pointless ship to use since its paper thin and most people dont solo-pvp in a ratting BS.
You are assuming the OP is going to nullsec and is experienced in picking out targets. I did not make that assumption. I assumed the OP had the same vision of solo pvp as most new people. Get in a ship and go tackle someone and kill them. A Bomber is very very bad for this.
The best solo use for a bomber is to try and catch someone on a gate in nullsec with a well-placed bomb or to catch a ratting ship off guard. But straight up pvp, you are going to die if you are not experienced with a bomber.
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Doddy
Excidium. Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2012.10.17 16:01:00 -
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Idk, i have killed plenty wts with bomber in hi sec. Sit cloaked waiting for wt mission bs to jump through, decloak -> own. Its also a great can baiter thanks to cloak and no recal (sit next to flipped can, wait for target to take from the can in thier hauler/barge whatever, kill). |
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Doddy
Excidium. Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2012.10.17 16:03:00 -
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highonpop wrote: The best solo use for a bomber is to try and catch someone on a gate in nullsec with a well-placed bomb or to catch a ratting ship off guard. But straight up pvp, you are going to die if you are not experienced with a bomber.
Why would someone "wanting to play rogue" want to do straight up pvp?
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Xercodo
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam Disturbed Acquaintance
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Posted - 2012.10.17 17:29:00 -
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I think Sunny would be better off in a Pilgrim :D
Still able to fly around cloaked like a bomber but it can also neut and TD while sending drones out to do the damage. That and it's WAY less paper thin and so long as you have TDs you can screw the tracking of anyone ratting in a battleship.
Keep in mind, Sunny, that EVE is open ended. There is no arena PVP unless someone organizes it and even then there isn't any way to reinforce rules unless it's one of the few dev organized ones. When you PVP in EVE you will need to hunt around for prey. Sometimes you'll run into other hunters, sometimes you'll find a guy with friends, or maybe he was bait to lure YOU into a kill. Learning to thrive in that kind of environment is something you have to go out and do, something that no amount of skills and SP will help you with.
Solo PVP is hard because most of the time your target has friends and the more targets there are the harder it is to keep a high transversal to all of them and you'll eventually pop. If you are still going to go with the bomber, though, then keep in mind that it is paper thin and you have to rely on your small size and speed to not get hit. Drones like warriors and hobgoblins will be a threat to you. The Drake is a Lie |
highonpop
Eve Liberation Force Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2012.10.17 18:02:00 -
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Doddy wrote:highonpop wrote: The best solo use for a bomber is to try and catch someone on a gate in nullsec with a well-placed bomb or to catch a ratting ship off guard. But straight up pvp, you are going to die if you are not experienced with a bomber.
Why would someone "wanting to play rogue" want to do straight up pvp?
Well, in your post just before this, you say you killed war targets in high sec with your bomber...howw many people do you know that are "rogue" are going to form a 1 man corp and war dec people and then take out a bomber to fight them in high sec? None that are half way smart..
By straight up pvp, i mean 1v1. If you are going "rogue" you would be looking for 1v1's not 1v10's and if you were looking for 1v10's you shouldn't be in a bomber.
All in all, i really don't think the OP is looking for a bomber. In fact, the OP said a few posts after his OP that a bomber is probably not what he is looking for considering what he wants to do.
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J'Poll
Kings of the Underground Side Effect.
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Posted - 2012.10.17 18:03:00 -
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SUNNY 30-09-2012 wrote:well - this is my very very 1st post in the eve universe =)
i started eve 17 days ago i started out in mining - i currently run a covetor isk flow seems ok - i will close out todays mining income with 25m isk for the day ( is that a good daily income for a new player ? ) =\
i play mmo's to pvp thats all - pvp
when i played wow - i was a rogue and - well a rogue could solo pvp np in wow
so i wrote all that to ask this : i would like to play a rogue type style again - so i am going to skill up for stealth bomber / and its fittings
is solo stealth bomber pvp a realistic aim in eve ? in other words - can i solo pvp as a stealth bomber ?
or
do i need to skill up for other ship types ?
one thing that is a constant about my style is i am a solo player ( so much easier to make ones own schedule / style / tactics / and not have to rely on others )
am i in for a rude awakening as a solo player looking to pvp in eve ?
tyvm for all replies ( even sarcastic ones ) =)
im very enthusiastic to learn - and im about to start my main char on the account for pvp i thought it would be good to ask key questions b4 skilling up for stealth
ty
1.) If you want to pure PvP, why did you train mining stuff up to a covetor (which is a fleet mining ship, for solo mining go retriever).
2.) 25mil a day, for new player it's a good amount, for older players it's pocket change.
3.) Stealth Bombers are nice, but IMO only when in fleets and doing coordinated bombing runs. They are tanked like a tissue paper and just looking at them wrong will make them explode. So you are very very limited on what you can engage and then there is the issue of not being able to bomb in empire space (low-sec and high-sec).
So basically, yes SB can be used. But in very limited amounts and in limited space so you likely would want to train for another ship.
4.) Also, you like to play solo. But 99% of the players in EVE have got contacts/friends on stand by. So even if you find a 1v1, or what you think is a 1v1 - off grid boosters etc - they can escalate that to a fleet dropping on your head. Inject your skillbook before you leave the station. Neo didnGÇÖt learn Kung-Fu by having it sit in his usb drive.-á If it moves, shoot it. If it doesn't move, poke it with your gun and then shoot it. We are not running, we are advancing in the opposite direction |
SUNNY 30-09-2012
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.10.17 18:37:00 -
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highonpop wrote:All in all, i really don't think the OP is looking for a bomber. In fact, the OP said a few posts after his OP that a bomber is probably not what he is looking for considering what he wants to do.
tyvm highonpop
i have found / and reviewed the vessels that top ranking players on BC are using =(
battlecruisers / battleships / cruisers / destroyers / even frigates / etc
almost no stealth bombers =( !
ok - in just 1 day - i have had a very steep learning curve about eve pvp
the info / input from people here has very much made me re-evaluate my short term goals - as did BC
forget the stealth bomber ! haha =P
as an example - and i see it as just / and only an indicator : the top ranked player : lukka has apparently no use of covert ops
in every game i have played pvp - the fundamental of : adapt or die was always key thus i am moving on
i have seen too much discouraging input and data ( on bc ) about the stealth bomber to see it as a wise place to begin ( maybe im wrong ) at this stage - now - i need to re-think what skill up / and vessel to enter into the realm of eve pvp with
this game is very complex and i have a hell of a lot to learn ( but i love that ) =) |
Jim Era
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Posted - 2012.10.17 19:05:00 -
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You seem to be focusing a lot on one player, eve is not like that. the key to being "top" is your friends/alliance. |
Minmatar Citizen160812
The LGBT Last Supper
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Posted - 2012.10.17 19:10:00 -
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Soloing is defiantly possible and quite easy when you get the hang of what you have to do to be successful at it. At first it will be very hard because you will probably want to bite off more than you can chew to get some "pew pew". Don't do that if there is a better than 50/50 chance it is bait then let them be or learn how to spring the trap without committing to the fight until you are sure there will be no help coming to save the other guy.
The only reason to train cov ops for soloing is to get a scanning ship capable of finding bears in space to murder. You can enter their missions here, beat them up and steal their stuff in addition to other nasty things like stealing their mission item then making them bring you exotic dancers to get it back. (low/null sec only it's not worth going into how to do it in high as that will all change very soon)
Bombers stink...well mostly for this topic. Recon ships like pilgrims, rapiers and arazus are what you want to aim for to sneak up on people. Other than that the ship doesn't have much to do with soloing. You played a rouge in WoW in EvE you actually have to be one. Think up ways to trap people, premark exploration sites and wait for prey, learn how to fly fast ships and go belt hunting (fast ships allow you to escape if the infamous blob spikes local),...etc |
SUNNY 30-09-2012
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.10.17 19:37:00 -
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hehe
im following every post here - clearly there is a very wide spectrum of opinions on whether solo-pvp is viable
in another post in another thread - i am reading of a person that has five accounts / uses them to " solo " LoL thats madness
is that crap for real ? mannnnn |
Robert De'Arneth
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Posted - 2012.10.17 20:13:00 -
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SUNNY 30-09-2012 wrote:hehe
im following every post here - clearly there is a very wide spectrum of opinions on whether solo-pvp is viable
in another post in another thread - i am reading of a person that has five accounts / uses them to " solo " LoL thats madness
is that crap for real ? mannnnn
It is indeed true, many people use multiple acounts to *solo*. You have not lived until you have been Wated by Jim!!-á-á |
Casirio
DEEP-SPACE CO-OP LTD Exhale.
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Posted - 2012.10.17 20:36:00 -
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SUNNY 30-09-2012 wrote:hehe
im following every post here - clearly there is a very wide spectrum of opinions on whether solo-pvp is viable
in another post in another thread - i am reading of a person that has five accounts / uses them to " solo " LoL thats madness
is that crap for real ? mannnnn
again, get into a bomber, its cheap, and easy to train. Go join the Bomber's Bar channel (open participation) blow **** up no strings attached, and go from there. I think you would enjoy that and give you an idea of what a group of relatively weak solo ships can do together, without actually having to join a corp or anything. |
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Todd Zilla
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2012.10.17 20:40:00 -
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I'd also recommend checking out the 'bringing solo back' podcast and related videos
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=42133
These guys will give you a pretty good idea of whats possible with solo/duo pvp once you get your skills up a bit. |
Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2012.10.18 00:54:00 -
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I solo PvP quite a bit actually.... although I'm by no means a new player...
Here's a few comments:
1.) What are you doing this weekend? Agony is having a PvP basic course, that teaches the basics of PvP. If you can be on for the class (& ideally the roam too), I'll pay your entry fee and help you get setup. This is a frigate based course, and details can be found here. Class: October 20th, 2012 starting at 08:00 hrs Eve time (~4 hours) Roam: October 21st, 2012 starting at 08:00 hrs Eve time (4+ hours) PM me soon if you are interested.
2.) Solo PvP exists in EvE, but it's not exactly readily available everywhere. The most readily available Solo PvP is in FW plexes, although you can definitely find it throughout nullsec and lowsec (Note: Some exists in highsec tradehubs, but I don't recommend playing there). Solo PvP is common in FW because the FW plexes allow a controlled arena that only lets in certain classes of ships (like frigs and dessies, or cruisers and below). The biggest drawback to FW solo'ing, is many FW soloists use Fleet boosting alts to give them an advantage. You will also find this in highsec! In nullsec, you have to deal with bubbles and bubblers, which make traveling much more dangerous.
When out solo'ing, realize, people will gang up on you everywhere. Frigates and dessies are the most common solo ships because they are hard to catch unless you want to be caught and the fights typically end fast enough that backup isn't a big issue. I personally like setting up a Small Mobile Warp Disruptor in nullsec pipes and trying to kill ships that land in my bubble. This is a very successful form of Solo PvP, that allows you to find lots of targets (many of which you cannot solo successfully, and many of which you can surprisingly solo successfully despite being in a frig/dessie hull). Stealth bombers or not very common for solo PvP, except for camping nullbear systems and trying to kill ratters in battleships. This form of SB PvP is come and go, where you get lots of hate mail by people that don't know how to deal with a stealth bomber, mixed in with hours and hours of waiting for someone to get up the cahonnes to actually PvE in a system with a cloaker, and then you get a brief fight. A competent PvE-PvP'er can destroy a SB before it destroys them, but nullsec is full of incompetent players!!!
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Minmatar Citizen160812
The LGBT Last Supper
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Posted - 2012.10.18 01:58:00 -
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Casirio wrote:
again, get into a bomber, its cheap, and easy to train. Go join the Bomber's Bar channel (open participation) blow **** up no strings attached, and go from there.
One of the few good reasons to train and use a bomber. If you want to see how fun a group can be defiantly try this. |
Sin Pew
Dakini Rising The Kali Cartel
132
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Posted - 2012.10.18 07:27:00 -
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Quit looking at battleclinic, KB whoring will only lead you to FotM and that's way off of "adapt or die". Besides, if you look at it, look at it right, Lukka has no kill since february and there's been some rebalancing in the meantime.
Solo PVP is possible in EVE, but involves picking your fights because everything in EVE has a counter. There usually isn't any end-all be-all ++ber-ship and when there is, nerf-bat strikes.
The best way to get into PVP is to find a fairly active low-sec system, get a bunch of T1 frigates and go play with people, you will lose your first ships (likely many even), but most people will be chatting with you if you don't whine and complain but keep hitting on them and ask what you could have done differently.
Best way to make friends in EVE is to shoot people and remain casual about losing. "haiku are easy, But sometimes they don't make sense, Refrigerator." |
J'Poll
Kings of the Underground Side Effect.
457
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Posted - 2012.10.18 07:58:00 -
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SUNNY 30-09-2012 wrote:hehe
im following every post here - clearly there is a very wide spectrum of opinions on whether solo-pvp is viable
in another post in another thread - i am reading of a person that has five accounts / uses them to " solo " LoL thats madness
is that crap for real ? mannnnn
Here lies the question, what do you define as solo.
A.) 1 person using only 1 account.
B.) Multiple accounts all operated by the same person.
Depending on your definition it can both be classed as solo. And yes, multiple accounts isn't uncommon in EVE, max I've seen is someone running 18 accounts at the same time. Inject your skillbook before you leave the station. Neo didnGÇÖt learn Kung-Fu by having it sit in his usb drive.-á If it moves, shoot it. If it doesn't move, poke it with your gun and then shoot it. We are not running, we are advancing in the opposite direction |
Xi 'xar
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2012.10.18 10:02:00 -
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Wow. Terribad posts abound.
Solo pvp is viable. Don't listen to people who tell you that it isn't. They are either lying to you or are idiots.
That said, although solo pvp is probably one of the most rewarding experiences in EVE, being a part of a good corp and going on big fleet runs is also a heck of a lot of fun. The two are not mutually exclusive. You can fleet up on Fridays and solo on Saturdays. Its your game, play it how you want.
Bombers are great ships and can be used in solo pvp. Their engagement profile is somewhat limited due to their lack of tank and weapon types but they also have the potential, when flown and fitted correctly, to wipe out much bigger ships very quickly.
It is usually recommended that you start out experimenting with pvp in frigates or other T1 ships, simply because you will lose a lot of them and at least with insurance you won't go broke overnight.
I wholeheartedly recommend the Agony courses - if anything is going to kickstart your pvp learning curve, its agony's pvp basic. http://reduplication.wordpress.com/category/explore-low-sec/ http://reduplication.wordpress.com/category/live-low-sec/ http://mrsnypes.blogspot.com/2010/07/burnt-lands.html
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Keno Skir
Vectis Covert Solutions
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Posted - 2012.10.18 11:35:00 -
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This should help :)
OP : Go to Youtube, search for "Eve Is Easy Solo".
There is a very talented guy who demonstrates solo tactics with a variety of different ships including Demios, Zealot and Talos. Also they have videos up explaining all sorts of other useful PvP tactics like clearing tackle and small gang stuff. Really worth a look, i learned a lot from this guy.
I'm gonna suggest the Stealth Bomber still, since it will give you an intro to PvP from the safety of a cloakable hull. If you have any further thoughts on something i've posted, or want to ask an unrelated question feel free to contact me by EvE Mail or by private conversation if i'm online. BUDDY TRIALS AVAILABLE - 21days plus big ISK bonus and starting assistance |
Martin0
Maximum-Overload
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Posted - 2012.10.18 12:24:00 -
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Fit a bunch of the new rebalanced T1 frigates and go (try) to kill people in low sec. Fw plexes are good for this. You don't need T2 ships (or even t2 fitting) to start kill people. T1 frigs with t1 fitting are cheeeeeap, you can lose lots without caring :) |
SUNNY 30-09-2012
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.10.18 22:50:00 -
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ty
ty every1
i want to keep this post going A : because im thirsty for advise B : i dont see a lot of newbie solo pvp guides in EVE
so far - in the past 48 hours - i have shifted my plan to start out in stealth bomber
intellectually - i have already shifted - and i see that frigs or bs is a better place to start pvp
SB is gone now - in my view
ty all for the information boosts ty ty
currently - the #1 problem i am having is understanding jargon
i am listening to mp3's on solo pvp - but i only understand 25% of the jargon
im going to start up a new char on the account i have 1 char so far - this one - she is shooting me 20m - 30m / day in isk my 2nd char is going to be pureeeee pvp but - right now - i dont know whether to start frigs or bs
im going to keep reading / learning
i love you all for giving me awesome help / info ty ty ty
ccp reallyyyyy needs to produce a newbie pvp guide
but - for me - im relying on you - ty every1
pleaseeeee give more info on solo pvp for me - everyyyyy thing you write here i am absorbing |
Jim Era
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Posted - 2012.10.18 22:52:00 -
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No CCP should not release one. You should not make assumptions until you know how the game works.
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