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homeland defense
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.10.19 03:45:00 -
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From goon jabber:
Quote:[03:18:34] directorbot: Courtesy of Powers: Miniluv Presents: Ice Interdiction 2.0 It's that time again to crush the supply lines of Gallente Ice. Gank Miners, Market Manipulate. https://goonfleet.com/index.php?/topic/180328-breaking-ganking-supercaps-worth-of-freighters-per-day-passe/Do you have fond memories of exhumer **** from last year? Yes? Well I don't. I was a damn newbee coming in at the very end of all the fun last November. Come join myself and miniluv in an epic gala of murder in Gallente Space. Web Broadcast to all-all from Andski
From their forums:
Quote:Warr Akini and I have journeyed down from our mountain of dead freighter wrecks to bring Goonswarm's love to Empire in a more familiar form. We have made our mark ganking 200+ freighters for 1.75 trillion isk in destruction. We were able to outgank Burn Jita (515b) both months. Last year, Goonswarm involved our whole blue list in a campaign that proved we could cripple gallente ice supply by ice hitting miners all throughout gallente space. We saw the impact on fuel costs, most of you made some money, and the pain we sowed upon greater pubdom was deep and lasting. We proved we could take the kneecaps off everyone in eve. LetGÇÖs go for round two.
Why: Because people need Gallente Fuel blocks. People love their Oxytope-using quasi-French/Greek capitals, not the least of which are the Nyx and the ever-reliable Rorqual. There are several active wars across New Eden, and just about every nullsec entity has cast their lot. What better way to **** on our foes in nullsec than to cripple their pubbie pos fuelers in high/lowsec? Another reason is that we decided to see what would happen if we as a single SIG spent 4-5 days just ganking mackinaws, orcas, and retrievers. As a result of just 5 days of Miniluv-ONLY ganks (18 orcas, 110 exhumers, 80 retrievers, 90 pods: 70bil destroyed total), Oxygen Isotopes have gone up 87.5% from 400isk/u to 750sk/u, sometimes spiking even higher.
Where: Blue Ice is found in 17 highsec systems in EVE. Of those, 15 are frequented by ice miners regularly (the other two are deep "island" systems) and can be roughly divided into two areas. Miniluv has spent the last week seeding ship caches with thrashers and catalysts, as well as sorting offices in cloning stations, and testing fits for ganking Mackinaws and Hulks in 0.5, 0.6, and 0.7 space. This thread and the relevant wiki pages (linked below) will collect all of this information and provide Goons with the tools they need to do violence to supply side of the Oxytopes market. Click the spoiler for the systems in question:
Our major "market" bases will be in Lirsautton and Odixie, and alliance marketeers are encouraged to stock the tools of destruction: Thoraxes, Brutixes, Thrashers, the fabulous Catalyst, and the various mods which are the tools of the suicide gank.
Goonswarm itself will be covering the Lirsautton pocket: all Goonswarm allies who want to participate should cover the Tolle pocket. Since we want 100% coverage, you can leave your pocket if it's overcrowded - just check around it first before leaving. Membercorps and squads can and should choose a "home" system: we want complete lockdown.
The two systems in the "unimportant" category have much lower activity, but we suspect that activity there will increase dramatically after a week or two, as well as in lowsec, Syndicate, Solitude, and Outer Ring. At that point we will turn our focus there, delivering death teams to isolated islands via carrier and sending Goons prowling through lowsec ice systems or infiltrating ice-mining corps with spies.
Who: You! Well, maybe. As you know, we have an ongoing campaign in Tribute which is our strategic priority. For the time people, people actively fighting in Tribute should stay there -- don't move to empire just to gank Mackinaws. Do, however, bring alts, 10-hour heros, and anything else you can spare to help out, IF you can do so without affecting the war effort.
A ****** alt with low skills who couldn't pull off a Thorax gank solo can easily do it with 1-2 partners, and this lets us involve newbees and use alts while our combat mains are off in Tribute or wherever. Do this!
When: Right now. We're going to maintain this for at least a two weeks: the goal is to drain Jita of even the most absurdly priced Oxytopes. Fifty million units of Oxytopes are used each day, so as we keep blue ice belts empty the universe will start exhausting its (now hideously overpriced) stockpiles. WeGÇÖve already been able to put a dent in the Mackinaw and Orca population, even with the buff to exhumers (thought youGÇÖd stop us with that buff, didnGÇÖt you CCP?). There will be a constant influx of new pubbies wondering why Oxytopes are so expensive and figuring they'll mine some and be rich, so we anticipate that these 15 systems will remain a target-rich environment for some time.
What To Do When You Encounter Resistance
Some pubbies learn. Unfortunately, they don't learn the lesson they should be learning: to get the **** out. They will attempt to resist: either through running remote reps, running ganglinks on their orcas and tanking their macks and hulks, or other methods to attempt to stay put. This cannot be tolerated. If you find you're unable to gank something, pipe up in the miniluv channel and get a crew together to kill it, or get someone to bring a facefuck dominix or the like. Those who refuse to bend will be broken.
Go, Do, Kill, Murdaaaa
Ok, thatGÇÖs it. Get out there, do your thing. The Ministry of Love is spearheading this operation; if you need advice on how to do one of the easiest things in EVE Online, weGÇÖll be here.
Seriously CCP why do you allow this? I have gallente towers for reactions and the goons just keep screwing everyone over selfishly. |
Imports Plus
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.10.19 03:47:00 -
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Cowboy up |
Freturln
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.10.19 03:49:00 -
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Whine some more. Why don't you buy them now, while they're cheap(er), and then sell them later, to make money? |
im mrmessy
SUNDERING Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.10.19 03:51:00 -
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Or, charge more for your products that you react when your costs increase. |
Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
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Posted - 2012.10.19 03:52:00 -
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Actually I was thinking just the opposite. I was pis*** about all the nerfing going on (and this is a post for another day but I fundamentally disagree w/ Poetic on the new crimewatch + killrights thing) and I have never been a big fan of mittens toolishness... or the goons as a whole for that matter... but thank the lords of kobol that they still have the cohones to do this. Their ice interdiction scheme REQUIRES an organization of that magnitude... few others could pull it off and they are actually doing it! I mean, if that's not a testament to how great this game can be I don't know what is. Really, for the average pod they should still have objections to the ganking nerf... but really to me the takeaway was that the goons got sucked into this game. They came here from the SA forums w/ the intent to destroy the game. ...and now? You know what. I think the goons love EvE. So don't take this as an attack on the player base. The goons little ice interdiction game is their own unique way of saying "I love you". You should be thankful you ungrateful bastard...
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Muffini
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Posted - 2012.10.19 03:53:00 -
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Ok, everyone get in skiffs? |
Hypercake Mix
Magical Rainbow Bakery
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Posted - 2012.10.19 03:58:00 -
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Hm. Why does it feel so much less entertaining this time around? |
Cyprus Black
Perkone
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Posted - 2012.10.19 04:00:00 -
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It's because they're bored. Nobody is willing to fight them so they have to keep their members occupied or else they'll quit EvE all together. Too busy playing The Secret World. EvE has gone stale and boring. |
homeland defense
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.10.19 04:01:00 -
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im mrmessy wrote:Or, charge more for your products that you react when your costs increase.
Doesn't work when you're competing with guys reacting with amarr POS who aren't affected by this |
Siobhan MacLeary
BRG Corp Ocularis Inferno
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Posted - 2012.10.19 04:02:00 -
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Well, this is going to make wormhole life irritating. |
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Poetic Stanziel
Fweddit I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
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Posted - 2012.10.19 04:04:00 -
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homeland defense wrote:Seriously CCP why do you allow this? You should be celebrating this awesomeness. It means the game still has a bit of that old HTFU attitude. Caldari Militia |
Trendon Evenstar
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.10.19 04:08:00 -
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another win for emergent gameplay! |
Powers Sa
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.10.19 04:08:00 -
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Gogela wrote:Actually I was thinking just the opposite. I was pis*** about all the nerfing going on (and this is a post for another day but I fundamentally disagree w/ Poetic on the new crimewatch + killrights thing) and I have never been a big fan of mittens toolishness... or the goons as a whole for that matter... but thank the lords of kobol that they still have the cohones to do this. Their ice interdiction scheme REQUIRES an organization of that magnitude... few others could pull it off and they are actually doing it! I mean, if that's not a testament to how great this game can be I don't know what is. Really, for the average pod they should still have objections to the ganking nerf... but really to me the takeaway was that the goons got sucked into this game. They came here from the SA forums w/ the intent to destroy the game. ...and now? You know what? I think the goons love EvE. So don't take this as an attack on the player base. The goons little ice interdiction game is their own unique way of saying "I love you". You should be thankful you ungrateful bastard... Yeah they grifted my post, but I do this because I like eve. I don't like unattended mining. Currently you really only have to check your retriever or mackinaw about once every 1-1.5 hours. That's a problem for me.
Muffini wrote:Ok, everyone get in skiffs? skiffs require you to actually be paying attention because they don't have giant ore holds that let you walk away and AFK. |
Touval Lysander
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
422
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Posted - 2012.10.19 04:15:00 -
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Poetic Stanziel wrote:homeland defense wrote:Seriously CCP why do you allow this? You should be celebrating this awesomeness. It means the game still has a bit of that old HTFU attitude. Poetic? Why aren't you a Goon yet? You ingratiate yourself so much it's sickening.
And HTFU?
If that's hard then that apple-pie with cream I killed with a spoon last night is ******* nuclear and should get me a VC, CMoH and a freaking croix-de-guerre...
"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
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Poetic Stanziel
Fweddit I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
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Posted - 2012.10.19 04:21:00 -
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Touval Lysander wrote:Poetic Stanziel wrote:homeland defense wrote:Seriously CCP why do you allow this? You should be celebrating this awesomeness. It means the game still has a bit of that old HTFU attitude. Poetic? Why aren't you a Goon yet? You ingratiate yourself so much it's sickening. Is that a strawman I see? Over yonder? Caldari Militia |
Touval Lysander
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.10.19 04:23:00 -
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Poetic Stanziel wrote:Touval Lysander wrote:Poetic Stanziel wrote:homeland defense wrote:Seriously CCP why do you allow this? You should be celebrating this awesomeness. It means the game still has a bit of that old HTFU attitude. Poetic? Why aren't you a Goon yet? You ingratiate yourself so much it's sickening. Is that a strawman I see? Over yonder? Until right then I had you down as literate. "I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
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Alara IonStorm
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Posted - 2012.10.19 04:23:00 -
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Powers Sa wrote: skiffs require you to actually be paying attention because they don't have giant ore holds that let you walk away and AFK.
Yes 23-21 Minutes is a very short time. CCP needs to buff Mackinaw tanks so that people don't have to put up with that nightmare.
Sometimes all this just makes me roll my eyes. |
No More Heroes
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1485
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Posted - 2012.10.19 04:27:00 -
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Lots of entitlement ITT primary target is broadcasted, put all drones on the warp disruption battery. If you are in a frigate you should be at the gate, who blew up? |
Muffini
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Posted - 2012.10.19 04:29:00 -
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Alara IonStorm wrote:Powers Sa wrote: skiffs require you to actually be paying attention because they don't have giant ore holds that let you walk away and AFK.
Yes 23-21 Minutes is a very short time. CCP needs to buff Mackinaw tanks so that people don't have to put up with that nightmare. Sometimes all this just makes me roll my eyes.
Also, Procurers are 5m isk? Retrievers are 25m and they mine ice just as well or nearly just as well as far as I'm aware.
I like how OP put "hulks" in there. I'm not sure if they know there was a patch. |
Touval Lysander
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
422
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Posted - 2012.10.19 04:34:00 -
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homeland defense wrote: Seriously CCP why do you allow this? I have gallente towers for reactions and the goons just keep screwing everyone over selfishly.
1) You're a day old or obviously an alt with towers in 0.0. - which didn't happen overnight 2) Do you remember the last interdiction? 3) Did you learn anything? 4) If yes to 2, why not 3?
Close your towers. Stop whining. Let the Goons do their stuff and couple of weeks it will all be back to normal. It always does.
Goons are just fuzzy blips on the radar passing through - like flies at an outdoor BBQ.
Unless..... Unless.... This is a goon alt looking to cause forum trouble for gigglez.
If so, Goons are just fuzzy blips on the radar passing through - like flies at an outdoor BBQ.
meh. "I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
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Alara IonStorm
3308
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Posted - 2012.10.19 04:35:00 -
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homeland defense wrote: Doesn't work when you're competing with guys reacting with amarr POS who aren't affected by this
Damn EVE and its free market economy.
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S'Way
Bitter Vets
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Posted - 2012.10.19 04:38:00 -
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People didn't expect this after the last one worked so well ? Should have stocked up on oxy isotopes after the last one - hope they have fun and make us that did profits. |
Touval Lysander
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
422
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Posted - 2012.10.19 04:39:00 -
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Muffini wrote:Alara IonStorm wrote:Powers Sa wrote: skiffs require you to actually be paying attention because they don't have giant ore holds that let you walk away and AFK.
Yes 23-21 Minutes is a very short time. CCP needs to buff Mackinaw tanks so that people don't have to put up with that nightmare. Sometimes all this just makes me roll my eyes. Also, Procurers are 5m isk? Retrievers are 25m and they mine ice just as well or nearly just as well as far as I'm aware. I like how OP put "hulks" in there. I'm not sure if they know there was a patch. OP is a goon. "I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
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Muffini
0
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Posted - 2012.10.19 04:43:00 -
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[quote=Touval Lysander OP is a goon.[/quote]
The OP of the Goon announcement. |
Touval Lysander
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
422
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Posted - 2012.10.19 04:44:00 -
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Muffini wrote:Touval Lysander wrote: OP is a goon.
The OP of the Goon announcement. OP = original poaster in this case.
Are we related? "I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
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Trendon Evenstar
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.10.19 04:46:00 -
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Touval Lysander wrote:Goons are just fuzzy blips
Sebiestor Tribe member Touval Lysander you do an awful lot of posting for fuzzy blips, sup?
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Touval Lysander
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.10.19 04:48:00 -
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Trendon Evenstar wrote:Touval Lysander wrote:Goons are just fuzzy blips Sebiestor Tribe member Touval Lysander you do an awful lot of posting for fuzzy blips, sup? Shoot... A real Goon!!!
Run............. "I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
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Kult Altol
Republican Industries Epsilon Fleet
142
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Posted - 2012.10.19 04:49:00 -
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I'm going to ice mine and there is nothing you can do to stop me. Deal with it. A narrow mind is a focused mind. |
Touval Lysander
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
422
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Posted - 2012.10.19 04:56:00 -
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Actually I did like this.
Quote:Some pubbies learn. Unfortunately, they don't learn the lesson they should be learning: to get the **** out. They will attempt to resist: either through running remote reps, running ganglinks on their orcas and tanking their macks and hulks, or other methods to attempt to stay put. This cannot be tolerated. If you find you're unable to gank something, pipe up in the miniluv channel and get a crew together to kill it, or get someone to bring a facefuck dominix or the like. Those who refuse to bend will be broken.
Next time some nullbitch tells me to tank my fn mack to save it from a gank I will go freaking mental!! "I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
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Imports Plus
State War Academy Caldari State
33
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Posted - 2012.10.19 04:58:00 -
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Track the progress here http://miniluv.apoff.com/kb/index.php/?a=home
I got in at 850 and oxytopes are almost to 1k per unit! \o/ |
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