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Anuillae Fourneaux
Alternate Opportunities
5
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Posted - 2012.11.08 08:59:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote: How many shares did your rock killing get you?
Currently 70 shares, I invested the income from just the tritanium & pyerite, that I sell locally because they're just not worth hauling to a hub given the the value per m^3 when refined. The other minerals, that are far more efficient in terms of isk/m^3 when you're paying someone else to haul, I hoard and ship via courier to the nearest hub when it's worth my while to do so. And was the 70 million ISK you paid James worth the honour of being able to vote in one shareholder vote about the fate of one miner who was guilty of asking James questions?
Come to think of it, your 70 shares didn't even have the slightest effect, did they, considering that other people voting were about 20 times as influential as you.
Alavaria Fera wrote:And isk, due to the Code's required mining permit fee (10mil per miner) - which is only part of the Code's requirements to participate in the greater highsec mining community, of course. I hope you are aware that maybe 1 in 25 miners actually pays, meaning that in terms of ISK, the entire thing is a massive waste of time.
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Talon SilverHawk
Patria o Muerte
553
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Posted - 2012.11.08 09:01:00 -
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Anuillae Fourneaux wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote: How many shares did your rock killing get you?
Currently 70 shares, I invested the income from just the tritanium & pyerite, that I sell locally because they're just not worth hauling to a hub given the the value per m^3 when refined. The other minerals, that are far more efficient in terms of isk/m^3 when you're paying someone else to haul, I hoard and ship via courier to the nearest hub when it's worth my while to do so. And was the 70 million ISK you paid James worth the honour of being able to vote in one shareholder vote about the fate of one miner who was guilty of asking James questions? Come to think of it, your 70 shares didn't even have the slightest effect, did they, considering that other people voting were about 20 times as influential as you. Alavaria Fera wrote:And isk, due to the Code's required mining permit fee (10mil per miner) - which is only part of the Code's requirements to participate in the greater highsec mining community, of course. I hope you are aware that maybe 1 in 25 miners actually pays, meaning that in terms of ISK, the entire thing is a massive waste of time.
My god ppl actually pay him ???????????????????? wtf ???????????? for shame
Tal
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Anuillae Fourneaux
Alternate Opportunities
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Posted - 2012.11.08 09:06:00 -
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Talon SilverHawk wrote:My god ppl actually pay him ???????????????????? wtf ???????????? for shame Tal It has to be said that they are mostly the people who can't spell properly and are incapable of correctly using punctuation or producing a coherent sentence.
Sadly, every profession has 'special' cases, and mining does too. We've just got to prove that there are more of us willing to fight than to give in to their feeble extortion. It's going well so far.
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TheGunslinger42
Bite Me inc
488
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Posted - 2012.11.08 09:10:00 -
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Anuillae Fourneaux wrote:Talon SilverHawk wrote:My god ppl actually pay him ???????????????????? wtf ???????????? for shame Tal It has to be said that they are mostly the people who can't spell properly and are incapable of correctly using punctuation or producing a coherent sentence. Sadly, every profession has 'special' cases, and mining does too. We've just got to prove that there are more of us willing to fight than to give in to their feeble extortion. It's going well so far.
The ones who pay The New Order are upstanding individuals, they have proven they are real people and not dreck who aspire to be mindless bots. They contribute to EVE Online. |
Anuillae Fourneaux
Alternate Opportunities
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Posted - 2012.11.08 09:18:00 -
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TheGunslinger42 wrote:The ones who pay The New Order are upstanding individuals, they have proven they are real people and not dreck who aspire to be mindless bots. They contribute to EVE Online. Tell that to the -A- mining alt who started with incoherent ranting against the Order, then paid without any warning whatsoever (to a Dreddit character, no less) and then went straight back to AFK mining. Real upstanding 'code follower' there.
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Jonah Gravenstein
Holistic Materials Research Council
3024
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Posted - 2012.11.08 09:23:00 -
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Anuillae Fourneaux wrote:TheGunslinger42 wrote:The ones who pay The New Order are upstanding individuals, they have proven they are real people and not dreck who aspire to be mindless bots. They contribute to EVE Online. Tell that to the -A- mining alt who started with incoherent ranting against the Order, then paid without any warning whatsoever (to a Dreddit character, no less) and then went straight back to AFK mining. Real upstanding 'code follower' there.
-A- nuff said, didn't they have to cancel a CTA because of RMT bans recently?
Blessed are the meek, for they shall be slaughtered -á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á---CCP can't patch stupid---
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Anuillae Fourneaux
Alternate Opportunities
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Posted - 2012.11.08 09:27:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:-A- nuff said, didn't they have to cancel a CTA because of RMT bans recently?
They did indeed, and that's just the type that's likely to pay your 'Order'.
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Nanatoa
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
148
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Posted - 2012.11.08 11:50:00 -
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Anuillae Fourneaux wrote:Come to think of it, your 70 shares didn't even have the slightest effect, did they, considering that other people voting were about 20 times as influential as you.
That's why everyone should invest at least a billion with the New Order! (But less than 1.337 billion; I hate dropping lower in the shareholders list) We do what we must, because we can.
MinerBumping.com |
Jonah Gravenstein
Holistic Materials Research Council
3032
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Posted - 2012.11.08 13:50:00 -
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Anuillae Fourneaux wrote:Come to think of it, your 70 shares didn't even have the slightest effect, did they, considering that other people voting were about 20 times as influential as you.
70 votes is better than no votes, besides I get to read an amusing blog with daily updates, I regularly engage with players that I would never otherwise have met because I'm a filthy carebear and I consider it a sound investment in the future of the way I play the game, a future that involves actually playing the game and socially interacting with others. Blessed are the meek, for they shall be slaughtered -á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á---CCP can't patch stupid---
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Anuillae Fourneaux
Alternate Opportunities
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Posted - 2012.11.08 13:53:00 -
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70 votes is better than no votes, besides I get to read an amusing blog with daily updates, I regularly engage with players that I would never otherwise have met because I'm a filthy carebear and I consider it a sound investment in the future of the way I play the game, a future that involves actually playing the game and socially interacting with others.[/quote] It's not much better than no votes: your 70 shares equate to 0.0029% of the whole vote. Big-effin-congrats.
As for the 'amusing' blog and the playing with your fellow bumpers, I was under the impression that both were free, regardless of your investment in James' IPO.
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Jonah Gravenstein
Holistic Materials Research Council
3032
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Posted - 2012.11.08 13:58:00 -
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Anuillae Fourneaux wrote: It's not much better than no votes: your 70 shares equate to 0.0029% of the whole vote. Big-effin-congrats.
As for the 'amusing' blog and the playing with your fellow bumpers, I was under the impression that both were free, regardless of your investment in James' IPO.
You are correct the blog and the bumping are indeed free content, however the truth of James' words inspired me to get involved and commit financially to his cause. Blessed are the meek, for they shall be slaughtered -á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á---CCP can't patch stupid---
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Kainotomiu Ronuken
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
46
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Posted - 2012.11.08 14:00:00 -
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Anuillae Fourneaux wrote:It's not much better than no votes: your 70 shares equate to 0.0029% of the whole vote. Big-effin-congrats.
As for the 'amusing' blog and the playing with your fellow bumpers, I was under the impression that both were free, regardless of your investment in James' IPO. I think you're somewhat missing the point. Paying for shares allows you participation in something that you believe in, as well as being a public declaration of support for the ideas of the New Order.
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Anslo
BHEI Galactic Construction The Unforgiven Alliance
528
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Posted - 2012.11.08 14:01:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Anuillae Fourneaux wrote: It's not much better than no votes: your 70 shares equate to 0.0029% of the whole vote. Big-effin-congrats.
As for the 'amusing' blog and the playing with your fellow bumpers, I was under the impression that both were free, regardless of your investment in James' IPO.
You are correct the blog and the bumping are indeed free content, however the truth of James' words inspired me to get involved and commit financially to his cause.
Sounds more like Dianetics to me Say no to cults kids!
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Anuillae Fourneaux
Alternate Opportunities
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Posted - 2012.11.08 14:02:00 -
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Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote:Anuillae Fourneaux wrote:It's not much better than no votes: your 70 shares equate to 0.0029% of the whole vote. Big-effin-congrats.
As for the 'amusing' blog and the playing with your fellow bumpers, I was under the impression that both were free, regardless of your investment in James' IPO. I think you're somewhat missing the point. Paying for shares allows you participation in something that you believe in, as well as being a public declaration of support for the ideas of the New Order. Please. And you laugh at us for believing in e-honour and glory? Death or glory, fight the good fight and all that s***.
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Anuillae Fourneaux wrote: It's not much better than no votes: your 70 shares equate to 0.0029% of the whole vote. Big-effin-congrats.
As for the 'amusing' blog and the playing with your fellow bumpers, I was under the impression that both were free, regardless of your investment in James' IPO.
You are correct the blog and the bumping are indeed free content, however the truth of James' words inspired me to get involved and commit financially to his cause. *Nods* You mean you got scammed to the tune of 70 million ISK? I mean, paying for what you already have...
I have to give it to him, James is a master scammer. This could be even more impressive than his ponzi scheme.
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Speedkermit Damo
TETRA-HEDRON
8
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Posted - 2012.11.08 14:18:00 -
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Is AFK mining for hours on end any worse than sitting on a gate-camp for hours on end. |
Jonah Gravenstein
Holistic Materials Research Council
3038
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Posted - 2012.11.08 14:18:00 -
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How can it be a scam if I knew that I would receive zero financial return for my investment before I invested?
It's like donating to charity or giving money to a busker, people donate to charity knowing that they will help others, with a busker you get entertainment, with James you get to help others and entertainment. Blessed are the meek, for they shall be slaughtered -á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á---CCP can't patch stupid---
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Sal Landry
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2012.11.08 14:54:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:How can it be a scam if I knew that I would receive zero financial return for my investment before I invested?
It's like donating to charity or giving money to a busker, people donate to charity knowing that they will help others, with a busker you get entertainment, with James you get to help others and entertainment.
It's a scam because he's tricked you into believing you're receiving something for your money, when you're not. |
Jonah Gravenstein
Holistic Materials Research Council
3038
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Posted - 2012.11.08 15:00:00 -
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No he didn't I knew that I was getting nothing tangible for my money, ergo no scam. Blessed are the meek, for they shall be slaughtered -á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á---CCP can't patch stupid---
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Nanatoa
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
151
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Posted - 2012.11.08 15:03:00 -
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I think it's useless arguing Jonah. These people don't see the benefit of paying 10M for a year of hassle-free mining, they certainly won't understand paying anything at all for something as intangible as the awesomesauce that is the New Order. We do what we must, because we can.
MinerBumping.com |
KrakizBad
Eve Defence Force Fatal Ascension
1066
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Posted - 2012.11.08 15:03:00 -
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Sal Landry wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:How can it be a scam if I knew that I would receive zero financial return for my investment before I invested?
It's like donating to charity or giving money to a busker, people donate to charity knowing that they will help others, with a busker you get entertainment, with James you get to help others and entertainment. It's a scam because he's tricked you into believing you're receiving something for your money, when you're not. I got (so far) 21 pages of tears for my ISK. www.minerbumping.com - because your tears are delicious |
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Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings Damu'Khonde
1996
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Posted - 2012.11.08 15:05:00 -
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KrakizBad wrote:Sal Landry wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:How can it be a scam if I knew that I would receive zero financial return for my investment before I invested?
It's like donating to charity or giving money to a busker, people donate to charity knowing that they will help others, with a busker you get entertainment, with James you get to help others and entertainment. It's a scam because he's tricked you into believing you're receiving something for your money, when you're not. I got (so far) 21 pages of tears for my ISK. Don't sell it short, there were plenty of other great threads for that ISK, too. Rifterlings - small gang frigate PvP - low/nullsec operations, newbie-friendly, free ship program; Join today! www.rifterlings.com
Accidentally The Whole Frigate (blog) - Learning how to pew pew, one loss at a time - www.thewholefrigate.com |
Coreola
Reasonable People Of Sound Mind
1
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Posted - 2012.11.08 15:59:00 -
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I guess the way I look at it is, who are these people to tell someone else they can't play the way they want? If they want to mine in high-sec all their lives, then go ahead. Their $15 is worth the same as yours, and there's no "correct" way to play Eve beyond following CCP's rules.
Some people don't have the aptitude for PvP. Some people don't like the stress of PvP. Some people simply prefer mining and doing industry work in high-sec because it's relaxing and stress-free. They don't have to worry about about how they'll stack up against other players.
On the same token, these bumpers are free to play Eve how they want to play. If that means flying around asteroid belts bumping miners off their roids, then knock yourselves out. Is it my idea of fun? Not really. I prefer picking fights with people who are willing to and capable of fighting back. |
Kainotomiu Ronuken
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
48
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Posted - 2012.11.08 16:25:00 -
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Petrus Blackshell wrote:KrakizBad wrote:Sal Landry wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:How can it be a scam if I knew that I would receive zero financial return for my investment before I invested?
It's like donating to charity or giving money to a busker, people donate to charity knowing that they will help others, with a busker you get entertainment, with James you get to help others and entertainment. It's a scam because he's tricked you into believing you're receiving something for your money, when you're not. I got (so far) 21 pages of tears for my ISK. Don't sell it short, there were plenty of other great threads for that ISK, too. I dunno, I think we could do with a few more.
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Anuillae Fourneaux
Alternate Opportunities
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Posted - 2012.11.08 16:32:00 -
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Nanatoa wrote:I think it's useless arguing Jonah. These people don't see the benefit of paying 10M for a year of hassle-free mining, they certainly won't understand paying anything at all for something as intangible as the awesomesauce that is the New Order. You're quite right. It is useless arguing against the superior logic of the Proveldtariat.
I mean, you can regurgitate the (flawed) arguments that James provides you with on his blog and in his manifestos, but when it comes to producing original ideas and arguments in response to the arguments of miners, you people really are like children lost at sea.
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TheGunslinger42
Bite Me inc
498
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Posted - 2012.11.08 16:42:00 -
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So whats the deal here, are the bot-aspirant miners simply too dumb to recognise how good the New Order is for highsec - and for them, too - or are they seriously trying to forum-post the Order into submission |
Natasha Liao
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
40
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Posted - 2012.11.08 17:28:00 -
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TheGunslinger42 wrote:- or are they seriously trying to forum-post the Order into submission *snicker* Like they have a snow balls chance in hell on that one.
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Zak Fey
Midget Stripper's Union
1
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Posted - 2012.11.08 17:40:00 -
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Natasha Liao wrote:TheGunslinger42 wrote:- or are they seriously trying to forum-post the Order into submission *snicker* Like they have a snow balls chance in hell on that one. Especially against the well trained forum warriors from goonswarm. |
Casanunda
Irreverent Industries
33
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Posted - 2012.11.08 17:41:00 -
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They're too busy not playing the game to be an effective force with any hope of beating the New Order into submission.
When I logged on this morning, I announced my presence as a member of the New Order in local who was checking permits, I got no replies from the 6-8 ice miners in system, 2 of them got bumped way way out of mining laser range before the server hamsters fell over and died laughing, resulting in the server crash this morning.
The proveldtariat will fail as long as miners are not prepared to actually pay attention and be at their keyboards, after all if they're AFK how can they retaliate? www.minerbumping.com, death to afk miners and the proveldtariat. |
Anya Solette
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2
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Posted - 2012.11.08 17:44:00 -
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if only miners wouldnt afk while mining, there wouldnt be threads of rage on GD.
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Nathalie LaPorte
Republic University Minmatar Republic
5
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Posted - 2012.11.08 17:44:00 -
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Anuillae Fourneaux wrote:Nanatoa wrote:I think it's useless arguing Jonah. These people don't see the benefit of paying 10M for a year of hassle-free mining, they certainly won't understand paying anything at all for something as intangible as the awesomesauce that is the New Order. You're quite right. It is useless arguing against the superior logic of the Proveldtariat. I mean, you can regurgitate the (flawed) arguments that James provides you with on his blog and in his manifestos, but when it comes to producing original ideas and arguments in response to the arguments of miners, you people really are like children lost at sea.
The only argument or action I ever see the proveldtariat take is bumping non-afk non-bot miners who refuse to join the proveldtariat. It's difficult to come up with original ideas and arguments against that, because it's such a simple and obviously wrong thing for you guys to do. When a group bases its existence on 'anti-bumping' but takes no meaningful actions that aren't bumping, then yes, it's difficult to come up with original ideas and arguments against that group--but they aren't needed, as the tired old "you guys are exactly what you claim to be fighting against" argument is sufficient. Why not just rename your group from proveldtariat to probotariat? |
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