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Veldspar Rock
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.10.20 08:29:00 -
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Hi
I'm going to specialize for dramiel frigate. I would like to ask a questions about training.
What skills do i need to max out skills to fly dramiel in PVP?
I have now in my plan:
Implants: Science iV Cybernetics V Thermodynamics V
Spaceship command: Minmatar frigate V Gallante frigate V Spaceship command V
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Doddy
Excidium. Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2012.10.20 08:43:00 -
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To fly well or to max? |
J'Poll
KIngs of the Underground Side Effect.
460
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Posted - 2012.10.20 08:46:00 -
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Any required skill for the modules + their support skills + navigation skills to V. Inject your skillbook before you leave the station. Neo didnGÇÖt learn Kung-Fu by having it sit in his usb drive.-á If it moves, shoot it. If it doesn't move, poke it with your gun and then shoot it. We are not running, we are advancing in the opposite direction |
Veldspar Rock
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.10.20 08:48:00 -
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Doddy wrote:To fly well or to max?
Max please. |
Braxus Deninard
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2012.10.20 09:41:00 -
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Why Cybernetics V? I really don't understand why that's Dramiel specific at all. As for what skills - make your Dramiel fit and just get all the skills to do that as a base. |
Kitty Bear
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam Disturbed Acquaintance
101
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Posted - 2012.10.20 09:52:00 -
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Repair Paste/Booster skills
Check the Certs for Core Fitting, Integrity, Navigation & Capacitor ... Elite them. |
Veldspar Rock
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.10.20 10:54:00 -
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Braxus Deninard wrote:Why Cybernetics V? I really don't understand why that's Dramiel specific at all. As for what skills - make your Dramiel fit and just get all the skills to do that as a base.
Because you need implants to max Dramiel effectiveness, thats the reason. I want all possible skills that can aid me in pvp.
EDIT: Currently i'm looking at 445 days of training, and it will be maxed. I have calculated attributes & implants. Damn gonna be long time, till im flying... |
Doddy
Excidium. Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2012.10.20 11:45:00 -
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Veldspar Rock wrote:Braxus Deninard wrote:Why Cybernetics V? I really don't understand why that's Dramiel specific at all. As for what skills - make your Dramiel fit and just get all the skills to do that as a base. Because you need implants to max Dramiel effectiveness, thats the reason. I want all possible skills that can aid me in pvp. EDIT: Currently i'm looking at 445 days of training, and it will be maxed. I have calculated attributes & implants. Damn gonna be long time, till im flying...
You aren't going to fly it till you have the skills? LOL
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Veldspar Rock
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.10.20 12:05:00 -
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Doddy wrote:Veldspar Rock wrote:Braxus Deninard wrote:Why Cybernetics V? I really don't understand why that's Dramiel specific at all. As for what skills - make your Dramiel fit and just get all the skills to do that as a base. Because you need implants to max Dramiel effectiveness, thats the reason. I want all possible skills that can aid me in pvp. EDIT: Currently i'm looking at 445 days of training, and it will be maxed. I have calculated attributes & implants. Damn gonna be long time, till im flying... You aren't going to fly it till you have the skills? LOL
Nope, i fly other char while waiting. |
Jesuis Cache-Cache
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.10.20 22:41:00 -
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Doddy wrote:You aren't going to fly it till you have the skills? LOL
That is some serious AFK right there. |
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Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel
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Posted - 2012.10.21 04:05:00 -
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Dramiels and skills never go hand in hand.
All you need to learn is to warp in at 100km and then nanofag away at 5000 m/s and you're a typical dram pilot |
SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
690
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Posted - 2012.10.21 04:51:00 -
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At the moment the Daredevil is better in every way. |
Khanh'rhh
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Posted - 2012.10.22 10:19:00 -
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Veldspar Rock wrote:Braxus Deninard wrote:Why Cybernetics V? I really don't understand why that's Dramiel specific at all. As for what skills - make your Dramiel fit and just get all the skills to do that as a base. Because you need implants to max Dramiel effectiveness, thats the reason. I want all possible skills that can aid me in pvp. EDIT: Currently i'm looking at 445 days of training, and it will be maxed. I have calculated attributes & implants. Damn gonna be long time, till im flying...
Skill progression is non-linear, and most of what you think you need barely helps. You'd be at 90% of your maximum efficiency inside 60 days (full T2/some faction fit), and the other year of your plan hardly helps, as you're within the margin of pilot error.
You'll be many times better off spreading your training among other ships, especially frigates which you can get competent in rapidly. The Daredevil, Slicer and Comet are some good examples (as well, of course, as larger and T2 hulls). - "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930's |
Robert De'Arneth
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Posted - 2012.10.22 12:21:00 -
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Dramiel is a very expensive Firgite to fy for pvp, It is a fun ship, but think about the bill to replace it everytime you lose it. Also agree Daredevil is much funner of the 2 ships. Though I would not use either for pvp, use a t1 frig you will be happier after you have to buy new ship and fittings. You have not lived until you have been Wated by Jim!!-á-á |
Sin Pew
Dakini Rising The Kali Cartel
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Posted - 2012.10.22 13:03:00 -
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Robert De'Arneth wrote: Dramiel is a very expensive Firgite to fy for pvp, It is a fun ship, but think about the bill to replace it everytime you lose it. Also agree Daredevil is much funner of the 2 ships. Though I would not use either for pvp, use a t1 frig you will be happier after you have to buy new ship and fittings. IB4IdrivefrariinRL "haiku are easy, But sometimes they don't make sense, Refrigerator." |
Mandaoza Mutti
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.10.22 13:17:00 -
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Robert De'Arneth wrote: Dramiel is a very expensive Firgite to fy for pvp, It is a fun ship, but think about the bill to replace it everytime you lose it. Also agree Daredevil is much funner of the 2 ships. Though I would not use either for pvp, use a t1 frig you will be happier after you have to buy new ship and fittings.
If you own a ferrari in real life, you dont need to look at the price tags. When i buy modules and ships, i dont even look at the price, thats how much money i have. |
Robert De'Arneth
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Posted - 2012.10.22 13:22:00 -
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Mandaoza Mutti wrote:Robert De'Arneth wrote: Dramiel is a very expensive Firgite to fy for pvp, It is a fun ship, but think about the bill to replace it everytime you lose it. Also agree Daredevil is much funner of the 2 ships. Though I would not use either for pvp, use a t1 frig you will be happier after you have to buy new ship and fittings. If you own a ferrari in real life, you dont need to look at the price tags. When i buy modules and ships, i dont even look at the price, thats how much money i have.
Yes well it is good I was referring to the OP and not you, unless you are one of those people who post on alts. In which case who cares? You have not lived until you have been Wated by Jim!!-á-á |
Mandaoza Mutti
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.10.22 14:09:00 -
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Robert De'Arneth wrote:Mandaoza Mutti wrote:Robert De'Arneth wrote: Dramiel is a very expensive Firgite to fy for pvp, It is a fun ship, but think about the bill to replace it everytime you lose it. Also agree Daredevil is much funner of the 2 ships. Though I would not use either for pvp, use a t1 frig you will be happier after you have to buy new ship and fittings. If you own a ferrari in real life, you dont need to look at the price tags. When i buy modules and ships, i dont even look at the price, thats how much money i have. Yes well it is good I was referring to the OP and not you, unless you are one of those people who post on alts. In which case who cares?
I care and i would like to add that i have many accounts, because i can afford them unlike you. |
J'Poll
KIngs of the Underground Side Effect.
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Posted - 2012.10.22 14:20:00 -
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Sin Pew wrote:Robert De'Arneth wrote: Dramiel is a very expensive Firgite to fy for pvp, It is a fun ship, but think about the bill to replace it everytime you lose it. Also agree Daredevil is much funner of the 2 ships. Though I would not use either for pvp, use a t1 frig you will be happier after you have to buy new ship and fittings. IB4IdrivefrariinRL
Sin, it worked. But please stop feeding these useless trolls and just report them. Let ISD/GM lay ban hammer and we can continue to help genuine new players. Inject your skillbook before you leave the station. Neo didnGÇÖt learn Kung-Fu by having it sit in his usb drive.-á If it moves, shoot it. If it doesn't move, poke it with your gun and then shoot it. We are not running, we are advancing in the opposite direction |
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CCP Eterne
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2012.10.22 14:22:00 -
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Had to remove a few posts for trolling. Keep it clean, guys. CCP Eterne | Community Representative
@CCP_Eterne |
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J'Poll
KIngs of the Underground Side Effect.
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Posted - 2012.10.22 14:29:00 -
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CCP Eterne wrote:Had to remove a few posts for trolling. Keep it clean, guys.
Please Eterne, it clearly doesn't work with these trolling alt that swarm NC-Q&A last couple of days.
I say go Zero Tolerance on here to kick them out.
These trolls make the forums look bad and might even scare people away from the game. Inject your skillbook before you leave the station. Neo didnGÇÖt learn Kung-Fu by having it sit in his usb drive.-á If it moves, shoot it. If it doesn't move, poke it with your gun and then shoot it. We are not running, we are advancing in the opposite direction |
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
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Posted - 2012.10.22 14:54:00 -
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accounting V. This will make you lose less isk to taxes if you need a new one. a eve-style bounty system https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=359105 You fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail to jump because you are cloaked |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.10.23 04:29:00 -
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J'Poll wrote:CCP Eterne wrote:Had to remove a few posts for trolling. Keep it clean, guys. Please Eterne, it clearly doesn't work with these trolling alt that swarm NC-Q&A last couple of days. I say go Zero Tolerance on here to kick them out. These trolls make the forums look bad and might even scare people away from the game.
If someone can be scared away by a bit of trolling, then they seriously need to reconsider their use of the internet.
Crimewatch 2.0: Protecting stupid people & rewarding lazy people. This hurts the smart & industrious people by making their intelligence & industry provide them with less benefit over the stupid & lazy people. ~ Ruby Porto |
Amon Asoria
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.10.23 06:05:00 -
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J'Poll wrote:CCP Eterne wrote:Had to remove a few posts for trolling. Keep it clean, guys. Please Eterne, it clearly doesn't work with these trolling alt that swarm NC-Q&A last couple of days. I say go Zero Tolerance on here to kick them out. These trolls make the forums look bad and might even scare people away from the game.
It's better to get used to trolls right here, since eve is nothing but a troll playground and you know it. Now, i bought 17 dramiels and faction fitted them, going to give a shot at pvp and see how it goes. Luckily i'm rich so if i lose all of those i can still afford more. |
Amon Asoria
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.10.23 06:05:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:J'Poll wrote:CCP Eterne wrote:Had to remove a few posts for trolling. Keep it clean, guys. Please Eterne, it clearly doesn't work with these trolling alt that swarm NC-Q&A last couple of days. I say go Zero Tolerance on here to kick them out. These trolls make the forums look bad and might even scare people away from the game. If someone can be scared away by a bit of trolling, then they seriously need to reconsider their use of the internet.
Or even more so EVE. |
Keno Skir
Vectis Covert Solutions
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Posted - 2012.10.24 11:56:00 -
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Amon Asoria wrote:Luckily i'm rich so if i lose all of those i can still afford more.
Judging by other posts from you i doubt you are in the slightest bit rich, or in fact all that smart. I sincerely hope to meet you in one of those Drams.
If you have any further thoughts on something i've posted, or want to ask an unrelated question feel free to contact me by EvE Mail or by private conversation if i'm online. BUDDY TRIALS AVAILABLE - 21days plus big ISK bonus and starting assistance |
J'Poll
KIngs of the Underground Side Effect.
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Posted - 2012.10.24 12:01:00 -
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Keno Skir wrote:Amon Asoria wrote:Luckily i'm rich so if i lose all of those i can still afford more. Judging by other posts from you i doubt you are in the slightest bit rich, or in fact all that smart. I sincerely hope to meet you in one of those Drams.
Keno, classical bragging by a forum alt, so you won't meet him cause he never log this toon in, he is too scared we will kill his only ship he can afford to post with his main. Inject your skillbook before you leave the station. Neo didnGÇÖt learn Kung-Fu by having it sit in his usb drive.-á If it moves, shoot it. If it doesn't move, poke it with your gun and then shoot it. We are not running, we are advancing in the opposite direction |
Amon Asoria
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.10.24 13:15:00 -
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J'Poll wrote:Keno Skir wrote:Amon Asoria wrote:Luckily i'm rich so if i lose all of those i can still afford more. Judging by other posts from you i doubt you are in the slightest bit rich, or in fact all that smart. I sincerely hope to meet you in one of those Drams. Keno, classical bragging by a forum alt, so you won't meet him cause he never log this toon in, he is too scared we will kill his only ship he can afford to post with his main.
You seem to have much hate inside you, maybe you should consult a specialist. Remember that eating tunafish and makaroni is not that horrible after all, you should not envy those who can afford better, infact you should try to better your self so you could afford luxorious lifestyle like me. No hard feelings, but i must go since i need to park my new lamborghini i just bought. |
Robert De'Arneth
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Posted - 2012.10.24 13:24:00 -
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Amon Asoria wrote:J'Poll wrote:Keno Skir wrote:Amon Asoria wrote:Luckily i'm rich so if i lose all of those i can still afford more. Judging by other posts from you i doubt you are in the slightest bit rich, or in fact all that smart. I sincerely hope to meet you in one of those Drams. Keno, classical bragging by a forum alt, so you won't meet him cause he never log this toon in, he is too scared we will kill his only ship he can afford to post with his main. You seem to have much hate inside you, maybe you should consult a specialist. Remember that eating tunafish and makaroni is not that horrible after all, you should not envy those who can afford better, infact you should try to better your self so you could afford luxorious lifestyle like me. No hard feelings, but i must go since i need to park my new lamborghini i just bought.
What is Makaroni, maybe you could enlighten us lesser people. You have not lived until you have been Wated by Jim!!-á-á |
J'Poll
KIngs of the Underground Side Effect.
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Posted - 2012.10.24 13:49:00 -
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Amon Asoria wrote:J'Poll wrote:Keno Skir wrote:Amon Asoria wrote:Luckily i'm rich so if i lose all of those i can still afford more. Judging by other posts from you i doubt you are in the slightest bit rich, or in fact all that smart. I sincerely hope to meet you in one of those Drams. Keno, classical bragging by a forum alt, so you won't meet him cause he never log this toon in, he is too scared we will kill his only ship he can afford to post with his main. You seem to have much hate inside you, maybe you should consult a specialist. Remember that eating tunafish and makaroni is not that horrible after all, you should not envy those who can afford better, infact you should try to better your self so you could afford luxorious lifestyle like me. No hard feelings, but i must go since i need to park my new lamborghini i just bought.
You really make me laugh.
1. From your bragging you clearly show you have no money. 2. You have no idea how wealthy others in EVE are, let alone in RL. 3. With all your money, you might considering going to school and learn how grammar works. Inject your skillbook before you leave the station. Neo didnGÇÖt learn Kung-Fu by having it sit in his usb drive.-á If it moves, shoot it. If it doesn't move, poke it with your gun and then shoot it. We are not running, we are advancing in the opposite direction |
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