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S'Way
Bitter Vets
143
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Posted - 2012.10.21 11:17:00 -
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The way it normally goes is:- If you win then you had a fleet. If you lost the other side had a blob (or the grid didn't load, or you got mass dc'd, or your fc failed etc etc).
I'd say anytime Ti-Di is needed then it's probably blob warfare. |
Lord Leftfield
The Society Calyxes
25
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Posted - 2012.10.21 11:19:00 -
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A fleet is a blob, a blob is a fleet |
Zagdul
Clan Shadow Wolf Fatal Ascension
1069
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Posted - 2012.10.21 12:03:00 -
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Mara Rinn wrote:ShahFluffers wrote:edit: I hate acronyms. OGBs? Off Grid Booster, such as six-link tengu, or 5-link Loki. Often found boosting from behind POS shields in lowsec systems where the locals just can't have enough home field advantage. Also, something CCP is intending to remove from the game. Your acronym that you made up and nobody has ever heard of, is bad as Off and On both start with the same letter.
Dual Pane idea: Click!
CCP Please Implement |
Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
55
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Posted - 2012.10.21 12:51:00 -
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To me the difference is a fleet is forming with the expectation of finding another fleet. A blob is forming without the expectation of running into any significant resistance.
Blobbers just like to talk trit about it so they don't feel like they look bad for doing it. |
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings Damu'Khonde
1918
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Posted - 2012.10.21 15:16:00 -
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ShahFluffers wrote:Petrus Blackshell wrote:ShahFluffers wrote:My alliance had a discussion about this awhile ago.
You are merely "outnumbered" when the enemy brings 2 ships for everyone 1 of yours. You are "blobbed" when the enemy brings more than 3+ ships per 1 of yours.
Then we broke it down...
Ewar ships count as 2 "people." You add 0.5 a person for every ship class above your fleet's average class. Well this casts Rifterlings-LNA fights into a whole new light. Silly blobbers. Ed: What do OGBs count as? I should point out that we were mostly being facetious when we were talking about this. All's fair in love and war and all that jazz. edit: I hate acronyms. OGBs? Off-grid boosters.
Also yeah, I know you were. I was being facetious too. Post-fight comments are much more often "damn Cynabals" rather than "damn blobbers". Rifterlings - small gang frigate PvP - low/nullsec operations, newbie-friendly, free ship program; Join today! www.rifterlings.com
Accidentally The Whole Frigate (blog) - Learning how to pew pew, one loss at a time - www.thewholefrigate.com |
Wolf Kruol
Sinisenkuun Laguuni GREATER ITAMO MAFIA
23
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Posted - 2012.10.21 15:23:00 -
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Fleet is a blob.. A Blob is a Fleet.. No more said needed. GÇ£If you're very very stupid? How can you possibly realize you're very very stupid?
You have to be relatively intelligent to realize how stupid you really are!GÇ¥ |
Kitty Bear
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam Disturbed Acquaintance
101
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Posted - 2012.10.21 15:28:00 -
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If your solo a Blob is 2 ships. (Offgrid Booster counts)
If you won the fight you were a Fleet If you lost the fight they were a Blob |
Elvis Fett
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
92
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Posted - 2012.10.21 15:34:00 -
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Zagdul wrote:Mara Rinn wrote:ShahFluffers wrote:edit: I hate acronyms. OGBs? Off Grid Booster, such as six-link tengu, or 5-link Loki. Often found boosting from behind POS shields in lowsec systems where the locals just can't have enough home field advantage. Also, something CCP is intending to remove from the game. Your acronym that you made up and nobody has ever heard of, is bad as Off and On both start with the same letter.
Petrus Blackshell it's not cool to think of yourself as a nobody, you are a somebody and we love you. Most of us know OGB = Off Grid Booster, it's okay though you didn't know that we still don't think of you as a nobody. Since currently there is no such thing as On Grid Boosting we don't really need an acronym for that yet. |
MatrixSkye Mk2
Republic University Minmatar Republic
445
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Posted - 2012.10.21 15:41:00 -
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Kaylyis wrote:So what's the dividing line here? If it's on my side it's a fleet. If it's on my enemy's side then obviously it's a blob. |
Nylith Empyreal
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
138
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Posted - 2012.10.21 15:42:00 -
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Honestly they're one in the same. I'd argue however that depending on the make up of said fleet would make it a blob more so if there is only one ship type in the entire fleet. But that's not to blame the fc's or the alliances, but CCP for neglecting mixed fleets and simply letting a few classes win all with strictly defense / alpha alone. "Oh, you can't help that," said the troll: "we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad." "How do you know I'm mad?" -ásaid the forumwarrior. "You must be," said the troll, "or you wouldn't have come here." |
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Ginger Barbarella
State War Academy Caldari State
186
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Posted - 2012.10.21 15:50:00 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote:Kaylyis wrote:So what's the dividing line here?
At what point does a fleet become a blob? What's the deciding factor?
I have an opinion, but I'm more interested in the commentary of people who've actually participated in PvP fleet fights.
For the purpose of the argument, "any time you're simply outnumbered," shall be considered a cop-out answer, since fleet engagements historically have depended on either having numbers, or by having your enemy so outclassed tech-wise or tactically that he never stood a chance. A fleet becomes a blob when the losers of an engagement feel the need to blame something other than their inability to make allies and tactical deficiencies. And no, during the war up north last year when giant fleets of titans were stomping around and threatening Deklein, I was in many fleets that fought outnumbered and accomplished all strategic objectives.
Get enough monkey's banging on a keyboard SOMETHING will come out. That doesn't make those monkeys the new Shakespeares... Blobs don't win because of tactics: they win thru sheer force of numbers. That's just as fail as ganking unarmed ships sitting in belts. |
SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
703
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Posted - 2012.10.21 16:02:00 -
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Ginger Barbarella wrote: Get enough monkey's banging on a keyboard SOMETHING will come out. That doesn't make those monkeys the new Shakespeares... Blobs don't win because of tactics: they win thru sheer force of numbers. That's just as fail as ganking unarmed ships sitting in belts.
Please educate us on how doing something that is likely to win is a failure. Is this a bushido thing? Should we be dueling at the sun? |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5269
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Posted - 2012.10.21 16:06:00 -
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Ginger Barbarella wrote:they win
Simple as that. This post was crafted by a member of the Goonswarm Federation posting cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online posting.
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Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings Damu'Khonde
1918
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Posted - 2012.10.21 16:06:00 -
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SmilingVagrant wrote:Ginger Barbarella wrote: Get enough monkey's banging on a keyboard SOMETHING will come out. That doesn't make those monkeys the new Shakespeares... Blobs don't win because of tactics: they win thru sheer force of numbers. That's just as fail as ganking unarmed ships sitting in belts.
Please educate us on how doing something that is likely to win is a failure. Is this a bushido thing? Should we be dueling at the sun? I think he might be calling the individual people fail because of lack of e-honour.
I've found that if you far outnumber the enemy while using smaller ships, accusations of blobbing are much rarer. Frigate pilots have more honour. Rifterlings - small gang frigate PvP - low/nullsec operations, newbie-friendly, free ship program; Join today! www.rifterlings.com
Accidentally The Whole Frigate (blog) - Learning how to pew pew, one loss at a time - www.thewholefrigate.com |
Lucy Ferrr
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
202
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Posted - 2012.10.21 16:09:00 -
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SmilingVagrant wrote:Ginger Barbarella wrote: Get enough monkey's banging on a keyboard SOMETHING will come out. That doesn't make those monkeys the new Shakespeares... Blobs don't win because of tactics: they win thru sheer force of numbers. That's just as fail as ganking unarmed ships sitting in belts.
Please educate us on how doing something that is likely to win is a failure. Is this a bushido thing? Should we be dueling at the sun?
Uhhh because this is a game and not real inter-galactic war. The whole point of a game is to have fun, not to decimate your opponent. A game in which one is guaranteed victory is very very boring for the average intelligence and smarter. When I am banker in Monopoly I could steal 10's of 1000s of monopoly money guaranteeing victory. I don't because its not fun, not for me, not for those I am playing against that have no chance of beating my unfair advantage. Only small children need to win every game they play. |
Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
2513
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Posted - 2012.10.21 16:12:00 -
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Ginger Barbarella wrote:
Get enough monkey's banging on a keyboard SOMETHING will come out. That doesn't make those monkeys the new Shakespeares... Blobs don't win because of tactics: they win thru sheer force of numbers. That's just as fail as ganking unarmed ships sitting in belts.
Have you ever actually flown in one of those "blobs"?
The FCs of the biggest fleets tend to be on an entire different level from a tactical perspective from their small gang counterparts. Its why they're running fleets in the damn first place. TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5269
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Posted - 2012.10.21 16:14:00 -
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Lucy Ferrr wrote:Uhhh because this is a game and not real inter-galactic war. The whole point of a game is to have fun, not to decimate your opponent. A game in which one is guaranteed victory is very very boring for the average intelligence and smarter. When I am banker in Monopoly I could steal 10's of 1000s of monopoly money guaranteeing victory. I don't because its not fun, not for me, not for those I am playing against that have no chance of beating my unfair advantage. Only small children need to win every game they play.
Except that's cheating in Monopoly. Outnumbering you and stomping you uncontested isn't cheating in EVE - it's just being good. This post was crafted by a member of the Goonswarm Federation posting cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online posting.
fofofofofo |
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings Damu'Khonde
1918
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Posted - 2012.10.21 16:14:00 -
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Lucy Ferrr wrote:SmilingVagrant wrote:Ginger Barbarella wrote: Get enough monkey's banging on a keyboard SOMETHING will come out. That doesn't make those monkeys the new Shakespeares... Blobs don't win because of tactics: they win thru sheer force of numbers. That's just as fail as ganking unarmed ships sitting in belts.
Please educate us on how doing something that is likely to win is a failure. Is this a bushido thing? Should we be dueling at the sun? Uhhh because this is a game and not real inter-galactic war. The whole point of a game is to have fun, not to decimate your opponent. For some, decimating their opponents is fun.
Lucy Ferrr wrote:A game in which one is guaranteed victory is very very boring for the average intelligence and smarter. You realize you said that to a goon, right? Rifterlings - small gang frigate PvP - low/nullsec operations, newbie-friendly, free ship program; Join today! www.rifterlings.com
Accidentally The Whole Frigate (blog) - Learning how to pew pew, one loss at a time - www.thewholefrigate.com |
Mortimer Civeri
Aliastra Gallente Federation
210
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Posted - 2012.10.21 18:42:00 -
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Well according to the Eve-O forums:
A FLEET, is what you bring to a fight.
A BLOB, is what the other guy brings, that defeats you, achieves its objective despite your efforts to thwart them, or makes you not want to engage them. Whiich makes you post stupid threads on EvE-O about evil blobbers/blobs.
I think that about summs it up. "I don't know which is worse, ...that everyone has his price, or that the price is always so low." Calvin
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Doddy
Excidium. Executive Outcomes
321
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Posted - 2012.10.21 18:56:00 -
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"Blob" is merely used to put negative connotations on enemy numbers. If you lose a fight or don't engage and numbers is the route cos its always because the enemy is blobbing, not because you failed to get the numbers. The point where people stop complaining about "blobs" and start complaining about corp/alliance mates not fleeting up is a sure sign of incoming fail cascade so crying about blobbing is generally quite healthy. |
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Speaker for TheDead
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
7
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Posted - 2012.10.21 19:59:00 -
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Fleet: Whatever you can get to the fight..... Blob: 3 times the number of the "fleet" and then drops Supers for good measure....
"Inception date: Expired."
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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
2609
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Posted - 2012.10.21 21:53:00 -
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Speaking in terms of body weight, it's difficult to be fleet if you are a blob. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Jack Miton
Aperture Harmonics K162
685
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Posted - 2012.10.21 22:08:00 -
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a blob is a fleet that waits till they have 2-3+ times the enemy numbers before engaging. |
Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
2520
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Posted - 2012.10.21 22:11:00 -
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Jack Miton wrote:a blob is a fleet that waits till they have 2-3+ times the enemy numbers before engaging.
"OK guys we have even numbers you're not allowed to come anymore."
"No, STFU, we have even numbers, we are not DISHONOROROBU ALLIANCE."
"Go shoot rocks or something screw you you can't come." TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |
Mirima Thurander
The 8th Tribe Seraphim Dragoons.
332
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Posted - 2012.10.21 22:32:00 -
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Kaylyis wrote:So what's the dividing line here?
At what point does a fleet become a blob? What's the deciding factor?
I have an opinion, but I'm more interested in the commentary of people who've actually participated in PvP fleet fights.
For the purpose of the argument, "any time you're simply outnumbered," shall be considered a cop-out answer, since fleet engagements historically have depended on either having numbers, or by having your enemy so outclassed tech-wise or tactically that he never stood a chance.
A fleet becomes.a.blob when you fill your first fleet then make the decision to bring 2 more full fleets just to be sure. A Dark time comes. A time of terror comes. My time. If it offends you. Stop me. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1607
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Posted - 2012.10.21 23:04:00 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote:Jack Miton wrote:a blob is a fleet that waits till they have 2-3+ times the enemy numbers before engaging. "OK guys we have even numbers you're not allowed to come anymore." "No, STFU, we have even numbers, we are not DISHONOROROBU ALLIANCE." "Go shoot rocks or something screw you you can't come." Worse OP ever. Where's DrakeFleet 2 with Boat and Drakefleet3 with, uh... you get what I mean.
I'm not going to alarm clock to try and beat 100 other CFC members to pressing the Join Fleet button, that's just too much. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
Viktor Fel
Viziam Amarr Empire
7
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Posted - 2012.10.21 23:06:00 -
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When they wait to deliver tears to harvest and work as group to let us harvest tears in an orderly way they are a fleet. When they leave their tears all over the place and we have to go shiting all about the area for them they are a blob. |
unrollloops
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.10.22 04:30:00 -
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Having more ships doesn't necessarily make you a blob. Often times it simply means that you were such elite PVP pilots that you were able to build a bigger fleet than your underhanded opponents could possibly blob. Outfleeting a blob is truly a commendable accomplishment. |
Ludi Burek
The Player Haters Corp
174
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Posted - 2012.10.22 06:46:00 -
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The distinction is quiet simple.
"We" are in a fleet while "they" are in a blob. |
Milton Middleson
Rifterlings Damu'Khonde
129
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Posted - 2012.10.22 06:58:00 -
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Your tactics hinging upon you having overwhelming force in order to succeed is a good place to start. |
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