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Ottom Ephesianos
Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2012.10.23 01:46:00 -
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In order to consciously develop the mental initiative to oppress another individual one has to suppress their morality, ignoring empathetic guilt occurring from a sense of responsibility for the possession; the need to see the enslaved fellow human experience life parallel to the state of the oppressor rises. Amarr guise this emotion by reconciling their need to impress spiritual enlightenment on their subjects. This premise lacks sincerity. Enslavement is an act of hostility that contradicts intentions of conversion.
Dishonor in light of acknowledging the existence of a peer and denial in accepting this truth results in loss of innocence; Innocence integral to the construct of the Amarr religion.
In growing cases Amarr youth subconsciously and consciously rebuke the influence of their parents and leaders. Generations of Amarr are secretly atheist citizens taking notes from liars in denial. They realize belief/faith is nothing short of stupidity. Fearing family repercussions instead of defection from the majority many of these youths embrace hate instead.
It is the human condition to feel. Hate as an emotion is second in potency to love in the emotional spectrum but does nothing for nourishing the spirit. Negativity only sedates the intellect allowing the self/soul to thirst in the vacuum of spirit. This is a direct contrast to the purpose of having faith. Those that choose to be patriotic must relinquish any hopes of developing a faith or sense of spirituality.
These two factors, loss of innocence and rise of hate among budding generations are the reasons the Amarr EmpireGÇÖs religious traditions are counterproductive to their embrace of slavery. They have to give up their religion to hold on to slaves. Unfortunately the structure of religion is the only thing keeping these hate mongers from committing mass genocide within the ranks of the Amarr Church and civil rebellion among sects and houses of the Amarr bloodlines: military coups.
I would say this as a former Amarr trust fund baby.
Our ancient ties to the spiritual beginnings of our current state were noble at the start. Perversion of these real spiritual advances by politically minded priests has stained our history with blood turning a blind eye to faith and the quest for enlightenment. Our history has been documented and recorded in the halls of long hidden Amarr libraries. Truths and insights that will make the current philosophies developed solely for the promotion of slavery look like antics. Once the Empire has fallen I hope to be there to help unearth and translate these truths.
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Gussarde en Welle
Fruidian Logic The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2012.10.23 02:28:00 -
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Brilliant thought. |
Silas Vitalia
Nobilta Nera JIHADASQUAD
382
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Posted - 2012.10.23 03:31:00 -
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You really need to work on your diction, this thing reads like a University term paper.
*yawn*
Put a little zest in your persuasion instead of sounding like a computer read out.
Sabik now, Sabik forever |
Scherezad
Lai Dai Research Spacelane Security
209
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Posted - 2012.10.23 03:45:00 -
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It is posts like these which make me feel particularly slow-witted. I'm afraid that I have no idea what you are saying! |
Rodj Blake
Praetorian Auxiliary Force Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1150
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Posted - 2012.10.23 07:20:00 -
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The Empire will still be around long after the Republic has become a half-remembered myth. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori. |
Amaki Mai
Meiyi Family Holdings
65
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Posted - 2012.10.23 07:23:00 -
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Scherezad wrote:It is posts like these which make me feel particularly slow-witted. I'm afraid that I have no idea what you are saying!
It did have a very low signal to noise ratio, didn't it? |
Horak Thor
T.R.I.A.D Ushra'Khan
110
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Posted - 2012.10.23 08:05:00 -
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Rodj Blake wrote:The Empire will still be around long after the Republic has become a half-remembered myth.
Wishful thinking is fast becoming your forte rodj. TRIAD is recruiting "TRIAD Agency" in game channel |
Ston Momaki
Disciples of Ston
381
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Posted - 2012.10.23 12:54:00 -
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Mr. Ephesianos, Your thoughts need but gain the company of others like you to plant the seeds of Reformation. Let a new empire be born through the collapse of slavery; an empire of mercy, intelligence and humble faith that seeks the betterment of all. The Disciples of Ston bid you peace |
Khazarn Areth
TACTICAL AGGRESSION IMPERIAL LEGI0N
105
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Posted - 2012.10.23 13:11:00 -
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The Amarr are very much dying, why i even have a few below deck bleeding out as we speak.
And i must agree with Sister Vitalia, you must do more to make your postings more lively, though you've raised some interesting points. Bloody Omir's coming back Monsters from the endless black Wading through a crimson flood Omir's come to drink your blood |
Kazzzi
Heathen Legion Ushra'Khan
143
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Posted - 2012.10.23 14:03:00 -
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Well said, Ottom. I don't exactally agree on your view of faith, but you make compelling arguments. |
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Amaki Mai
Meiyi Family Holdings
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Posted - 2012.10.24 10:00:00 -
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Khazarn Areth wrote:The Amarr are very much dying, why i even have a few below deck bleeding out as we speak.
And i must agree with Sister Vitalia, you must do more to make your postings more lively, though you've raised some interesting points.
That would be a compelling argument, if not a spooky warning to change my ways if I didn't make most of my money turning Blooder battleships into pretty scrapmetal sculptures for the Imperial Navy.
The Empire isn't going anywhere. If they can survive a Hounds Get like Karsoth then I'm pretty sure they will thrive under the Empress. |
von Khan
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.10.25 16:14:00 -
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Ottom Ephesianos wrote: A well thought argument from tainted premises.
Ill begin with this:
"Only through many hardships Is a man stripped to his very foundations And in such a state Devoid of distractions Is his soul free to soar And in this He is closest to God" - The Scriptures, Book of Missions 42:5
You have to reprocess this thought with the realization that we are ALL slaves either to ourselves or a belief. Realizing this, we choose to service others instead of the self. This is the strongest expression of love.
I could explain this further if your willing to listen, but i think the Scripture quote is clear.
von Khan Philosopher |
Ottom Ephesianos
Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2012.10.26 01:13:00 -
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New age empire interpretations of scripture taken out of context will not blind us who know and follow the Original creator. That which wishes to see the product of humanities free will and judge him accordingly. Attempting to claim enslavement to God is like trying to lash yourself to the ocean. It is impossible to consider God in interest of the commodity of slaves. You are selling portraits to the blind but I will not be so gullible. Even as the faulty framework of the corrupt Amarr infrastructure fragments the power hungry zealots to a demi god eat their own young. Sell their youth the pride behind enslavement. And send these pilots into the ether to comprehend their own destinies. You wonder how Sansha could enlist and these are his Target consumer. Thanks to Amarr philosophy |
Evelyn Meiyi
Meiyi Family Holdings
56
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Posted - 2012.10.26 04:44:00 -
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Ottom Ephesianos wrote:New age empire interpretations of scripture taken out of context will not blind us who know and follow the Original creator. That which wishes to see the product of humanities free will and judge him accordingly. Attempting to claim enslavement to God is like trying to lash yourself to the ocean. It is impossible to consider God in interest of the commodity of slaves. You are selling portraits to the blind but I will not be so gullible. Even as the faulty framework of the corrupt Amarr infrastructure fragments the power hungry zealots to a demi god eat their own young. Sell their youth the pride behind enslavement. And send these pilots into the ether to comprehend their own destinies. You wonder how Sansha could enlist and these are his Target consumer. Thanks to Amarr philosophy
You remind me of someone....
You are quite a bold person, to be making such claims about a faith in which you do not believe. Perhaps a visit to one of our churches is in order, so that you may better understand us. |
von Khan
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.10.26 05:04:00 -
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In faith there is enough light for those who want to see and enough shadows to blind those who don't. You judge me, but I have freed slaves and spilled less blood than you have in your career. What does that say about you? Perhaps the misfortune of your family blinded your soul. Please spare me your hollow rhetoric, I am willing to debate the issue, but preferably without resorting to personal attacks and blasphemy.
I come to you with words of kindness, the language which the deaf can hear and the blind can see, remember that in the pursuit of wrong doing one steps away from God.
von Khan Philosopher |
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
82
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Posted - 2012.10.26 06:58:00 -
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The Amarr themselves are but slaves to God. How could there be shame in serving God? EvE Forum Bingo |
Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.10.26 08:05:00 -
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How there ever can be shame in serving? Willingly serving, sacrificing own goals, own property and even own lives, it is what makes us humans as opposed to savages, who care only about their own hides.
When another freedom-loving scumbag dies in fire under my guns, I feel deep satisfaction for cleaning our imperfect world from another rotten smelly piece of filth. |
Horak Thor
T.R.I.A.D Ushra'Khan
111
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Posted - 2012.10.26 13:18:00 -
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Diana Kim wrote:How there ever can be shame in serving? Willingly serving, sacrificing own goals, own property and even own lives, it is what makes us humans as opposed to savages, who care only about their own hides.
When another freedom-loving scumbag dies in fire under my guns, I feel deep satisfaction for cleaning our imperfect world from another rotten smelly piece of filth.
Slowly im realising you never actually make a point in any of your post's, you just post about how awesome you are at shooting freedom loving filth, the Minmatar smell, or generally childish insult's. Im starting to see why you hang out the back of the Amarrian's so much, the Caldari practise of promoting only the finest most intelligent officer's must get in your way having the IQ of a common Goldfish.
Hmm very enlightening. TRIAD is recruiting "TRIAD Agency" in game channel |
Ottom Ephesianos
Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan
9
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Posted - 2012.10.26 17:17:00 -
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Well two things I am not going to do is one: Get into a quoting competition with my mirror and two: Argue blood on my hands with an admitted slaver.
You claim to have set free people and have little blood on your hands but I might inquire as to how loose your philosophical interpretation of free is and how twisted your meaning behind having blood on your hands is. By endorsing slavery in any capacity you accept countless innocents lost under the bowels of slave ships. There is no way the literal blood on my hands could compare to the figurative blood on your own.
Taking these factors into account and the basic teachings of morality and faith instilled by all socially accepted religious structures it becomes obvious that the Amarr and the Sansha are on the same misinformation trip for the increased material power of slavery foregoing the loss of spiritual connectivity to ones own system of faith.
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Gussarde en Welle
Fruidian Logic The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2012.10.29 06:04:00 -
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Katran Luftschreck wrote:The Amarr themselves are but slaves to God. How could there be shame in serving God?
Depends on how deserving your God is of shame, itself. |
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entroncas
Catalina Operations and Logistics Division
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Posted - 2012.10.30 12:41:00 -
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Is UK still alive? or is another season of the walking dead |
von Khan
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.10.31 18:04:00 -
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Ottom Ephesianos wrote:Well two things I am not going to do is one: Get into a quoting competition with my mirror and two: Argue blood on my hands with an admitted slaver.
You claim to have set free people and have little blood on your hands but I might inquire as to how loose your philosophical interpretation of free is and how twisted your meaning behind having blood on your hands is. By endorsing slavery in any capacity you accept countless innocents lost under the bowels of slave ships. There is no way the literal blood on my hands could compare to the figurative blood on your own.
Taking these factors into account and the basic teachings of morality and faith instilled by all socially accepted religious structures it becomes obvious that the Amarr and the Sansha are on the same misinformation trip for the increased material power of slavery foregoing the loss of spiritual connectivity to ones own system of faith.
Your thirst for revenge blinds you brother... One can only become a slave by being sentenced to slavery by an authorized Amarr organization. Most so-called "Slavers" are in fact criminals only bent on profit, and the punishment under Amarr law for illegal slave raids is death.
The Amarr keep slaves to profit from them! Pure nonsense. Anyone knows that paid laborers work much more efficient than slaves. By employing slaves the Amarr economy as a whole suffers. It is one of the sacrifices the Amarr make in order to pay for the salvation of souls. Wealth is not our primary concern, teaching faith and morality is.
von Khan Philosopher |
Roga Dracor
Fury Lords Intergalactic Brotherhood
285
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Posted - 2012.11.01 16:04:00 -
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Nay, good sir. Our lack of will is our seperation from God. The will is driven by the mind and only a weakness of the mind and it's constituent weakness of will seperates us from God.
In like fashion, we are all slaves to our own mind. Only a strong, well tempered mind can approach any true measure of freedom. If there is such a beast? It's no use going back to yesterday, because I was a different person then, and it's a poor sort of memory that only works backward.
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Horak Thor
T.R.I.A.D
119
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Posted - 2012.11.03 10:46:00 -
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von Khan wrote:
The Amarr keep slaves to profit from them! Pure nonsense. Anyone knows that paid laborers work much more efficient than slaves. By employing slaves the Amarr economy as a whole suffers. It is one of the sacrifices the Amarr make in order to pay for the salvation of souls. Wealth is not our primary concern, teaching faith and morality is.
Do you realise the tens of billions of slaves in your "empire" carry out all the menial tasks Amarrian elitist's wouldn't do, after all god's work is in enslaving and freeing other's through forced un paid work, isn't it?
But let's carry on pretending the Amarr are selfless samaritans, it's not like they rely on slavery for their entire baseline workforce is it, oh wait. TRIAD is recruiting "TRIAD Agency" in game channel |
Lady Katherine Devonshire
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
68
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Posted - 2012.11.03 23:06:00 -
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The Minmatar Republic would like to remind everyone that they have no prisons in their society, no convicts and never use convict labor for anything.
They would also like to remind you that all Minmatar free citizens caught with copies of the "Pax Ammaria" or confessing to practicing the Amarr religion have all willingly volunteered to crush rocks on ice covered moons for the rest of their natural lives entirely out of their selfless dedication to the cause of freedom.
They would also like to remind any Amarrian that that if any of your ancestors from over 400 years ago had any Minmatar blood in them then that makes you Matari and gives them the right to come to your planet & "liberate" you back to the Republic - with a bag over your head, if need be.
The reason for this is twofold: One, because they oppose slavery. Two, because despite being twenty generations removed from the Matari, the Republic still considers you to be one of "their" people and they want their property back.
If you refuse to cooperate with this "liberation" then your liberators will respect your decision & freedom of choice by stabbing you with bayonets and writing "traitor" on the wall in your blood.
They would also like to make it clear that in 400 years not a single slave was ever convicted of an actual crime, no has any ever been released from bondage, and that every descendent of every slave every take back then is still serving to this day. Not a single one has ever risen above that status and every last one has no cultural connection to Amarrian people that they've spent their entire lives with.
Remember, in the Republic you area always free to choose to what you want to do or believe so long as what you choose to do or believe is exactly what the Republic wants. EvE Forum Bingo |
Amaki Mai
Meiyi Family Holdings
68
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Posted - 2012.11.04 05:59:00 -
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Precisely! How often does the same person accuse us of profiting by the work of Slaves and then point out that Slavery is an inefficient labour model.
We know it is. We don't necessarily take Slaves solely for the sweat of their brow. Scripture tells us that discipline and physical labour are the best ways to set someone's feet onto the first steps of the path that leads to God.
As for the complaint that Slaves get all the menial jobs, I would first point out that plenty of Slaves have more cerebral jobs. Of the five Slaves that are part of my household one acts as my household manager and another coordinates my infogathering and research data. Both tasks are as responsible and the Datagirl's job is probably more intellectual than my own job would have been if I'd succeeded my parents as a trade factor on my homeworld.
That aside, yes we have an underclass that does our menial work. The Caldari have one. The Gallente have one. The Matari have an underclass as well. I'm sure that Shakor doesn't wash his own skivvies or cook his own food. I'm sure that he COULD do so if he had to, but then so could I.
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Ava Starfire
Skadi's Call
423
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Posted - 2012.11.04 17:17:00 -
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Chocolate chip ice cream is superior to plain vanilla. |
Nick Bete
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.11.04 17:21:00 -
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Don't you people ever get tired of rehashing the same old arguments?
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von Khan
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.11.04 19:15:00 -
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Roga Dracor wrote:Nay, good sir. Our lack of will is our seperation from God. The will is driven by the mind and only a weakness of the mind and it's constituent weakness of will seperates us from God.
In like fashion, we are all slaves to our own mind. Only a strong, well tempered mind can approach any true measure of freedom. If there is such a beast?
I think we agree in part - by "will", I mean the need to justify our own being by creating our own reality making us slaves of our own device. It is by detaching ourselves from the "will" that the sage remain at one with its own self, placing it behind. Internal freedom is unified with the external world, by being selfless he is fulfilled, thus his self-hood is reassured.
This are some of the advanced concepts taught from Pax Amarr, if youGÇÖre interested to understand this fully I encourage you to relinquish your material possessions and come to Amarr.
von Khan Philosopher |
Gussarde en Welle
Fruidian Logic The Volition Cult
48
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Posted - 2012.11.04 20:03:00 -
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von Khan wrote:
I think we agree in part - by "will", I mean the need to justify our own being by creating our own reality making us slaves of our own device. It is by detaching ourselves from the "will" that the sage remain at one with its own self, placing it behind. Internal freedom is unified with the external world, by being selfless he is fulfilled, thus his self-hood is reassured.
This are some of the advanced concepts taught from Pax Amarr, if youGÇÖre interested to understand this fully I encourage you to relinquish your material possessions and come to Amarr.
I must admit these ideas are very compelling; it must be why they are core teachings at the center of Ida. |
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