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awhiplash
Machete Diplomacy
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Posted - 2012.10.23 15:14:00 -
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I do not know if this topic was opened for discussion or not, and i am to lazy to check. I like to overheat my modules during a battle, but sometimes it is hard to keep track of what is being overheated and how long they will over heat for. Is there any possibility of getting a warning sound just before a module overheats to offlining. It is hard to keep of overheating modules during a great fight. |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
909
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Posted - 2012.10.23 15:25:00 -
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It's just one of those extra things that you have to look at every few seconds. It adds an extra layer to the combat system & providing people with a warning is simply just dumbing it down. Crimewatch 2.0: Protecting stupid people & rewarding lazy people. This hurts the smart & industrious people by making their intelligence & industry provide them with less benefit over the stupid & lazy people. ~ Ruby Porto |
Alice Saki
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Posted - 2012.10.23 15:25:00 -
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To Lazy to read Scottish Interweb Spaceshippy Person, Very Easily Confused. I like to show my Love by Smashing people in the face with a big Hammer.
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Ginger Barbarella
State War Academy Caldari State
188
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Posted - 2012.10.23 15:30:00 -
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awhiplash wrote:I do not know if this topic was opened for discussion or not, and i am to lazy to check. I like to overheat my modules during a battle, but sometimes it is hard to keep track of what is being overheated and how long they will over heat for. Is there any possibility of getting a warning sound just before a module overheats to offlining. It is hard to keep of overheating modules during a great fight.
I agree completely. moving your eyes 3 inches down while a wep cycles for half a second is just too damn much work. |
awhiplash
Machete Diplomacy
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Posted - 2012.10.23 15:35:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:It's just one of those extra things that you have to look at every few seconds. It adds an extra layer to the combat system & providing people with a warning is simply just dumbing it down. Its doing none of that, when you are in large fleets, you have time to look down and up, because who knows when you are gonna be the next primary. In small scale combat, when its just you and a budd, it is really hard to keep track of it. Why is it a bad idea, you get a nice little sound when you hit low armor or low shield. It helps alot when you are tank baiting. If a ship has the smarts to notice and give you are sound warning when this happenes, it should give you a sound error when your mods are about to be burned out.
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Opertone
Aurora Empire Fuzzy Nut Attack Squirrels
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Posted - 2012.10.23 15:37:00 -
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train thermodynamics 5 and forget about excessive heat.
When you need duct tape, there is never too much of it.
Eve had much improvement in overheating UI, sound alarm is excessive. |
awhiplash
Machete Diplomacy
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Posted - 2012.10.23 15:39:00 -
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Opertone wrote:train thermodynamics 5 and forget about excessive heat.
When you need duct tape, there is never too much of it.
Eve had much improvement in overheating UI, sound alarm is excessive. I have it trained to level 5..
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Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
909
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Posted - 2012.10.23 15:44:00 -
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awhiplash wrote:In small scale combat, when its just you and a budd, it is really hard to keep track of it.
It really isn't. Crimewatch 2.0: Protecting stupid people & rewarding lazy people. This hurts the smart & industrious people by making their intelligence & industry provide them with less benefit over the stupid & lazy people. ~ Ruby Porto |
awhiplash
Machete Diplomacy
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Posted - 2012.10.23 15:45:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:awhiplash wrote:In small scale combat, when its just you and a budd, it is really hard to keep track of it. It really isn't. Bro you in goonswarm.ROLF You guys are masters of the blob. I guess in your fleets it takes 5 minutes before you get primaried. |
Metal Icarus
Endless Destruction
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Posted - 2012.10.23 15:51:00 -
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A fighter pilot wont look at blinking light in the middle of a fight to indicate a lock, so they put in a buzzer. Same fighter pilot needs to know he is being tracked by a missile, they put in a buzzer. Also, when they are pushing their jet engines to the limit and temp sensors start to hit their max allowable temp, another buzzer goes so the pilot knows that he is pushing the limit of his engine.
Please go on about how adding in an optional buzzer will dumb down the game.
The pilot you are trying to kill should be the one challenging you, not your own UI. |
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Karl Hobb
Stellar Ore Refinery and Crematorium
855
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Posted - 2012.10.23 16:11:00 -
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awhiplash wrote:In small scale combat, when its just you and a budd, it is really hard to keep track of it. I'm pretty new to small gang and solo stuff compared to pretty much everyone else, but I don't have a problem with watching my modules. Nothing Found |
Nariya Kentaya
Tartarus Ventures Surely You're Joking
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Posted - 2012.10.23 16:12:00 -
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awhiplash wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:awhiplash wrote:In small scale combat, when its just you and a budd, it is really hard to keep track of it. It really isn't. Bro you in goonswarm.ROLF You guys are masters of the blob. I guess in your fleets it takes 5 minutes before you get primaried. honestly, dude, its UI, you just have to make it instinct/habit to glance around your screen for new **** every few secodns, i live in WH's, i gotta keep track of proes, d-scan, fleet comms, as well as my position relative to fleet members, DURING COMBAT, and i do rather fine, in fact, most of us do.
and on to your goonswarm comment, you call them amsters of the blob, when 90% of the time, goonwarfare is them getting bored and buttfucking lowsec slobs with some buddies on the weekends, honestly, you want a master of the blob, s3v3rance will drop 40-50 man fleets if so much as a roving gang of 3 frigates enter their system... |
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1921
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Posted - 2012.10.23 16:12:00 -
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So instead of trying to improve yourself, you ask CCP to help you stay the same.
Hurray for incapabilities ! Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |
Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
125
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Posted - 2012.10.23 16:45:00 -
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Warning sound? Eve has sound? I am not my skills but... http://eveboard.com/pilot/Schmata_Bastanold |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
911
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Posted - 2012.10.23 16:47:00 -
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Metal Icarus wrote:A fighter pilot wont look at blinking light in the middle of a fight to indicate a lock, so they put in a buzzer. Same fighter pilot needs to know he is being tracked by a missile, they put in a buzzer. Also, when they are pushing their jet engines to the limit and temp sensors start to hit their max allowable temp, another buzzer goes so the pilot knows that he is pushing the limit of his engine.
Please go on about how adding in an optional buzzer will dumb down the game.
The pilot you are trying to kill should be the one challenging you, not your own UI.
Please tell us more about how a life & death situation is comparable to a computer game. Crimewatch 2.0: Protecting stupid people & rewarding lazy people. This hurts the smart & industrious people by making their intelligence & industry provide them with less benefit over the stupid & lazy people. ~ Ruby Porto |
Gilbaron
Free-Space-Ranger Ev0ke
382
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Posted - 2012.10.23 16:49:00 -
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i wish there were modules that can overheat an enemies modules |
Metal Icarus
Endless Destruction
310
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Posted - 2012.10.23 17:18:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:Metal Icarus wrote:A fighter pilot wont look at blinking light in the middle of a fight to indicate a lock, so they put in a buzzer. Same fighter pilot needs to know he is being tracked by a missile, they put in a buzzer. Also, when they are pushing their jet engines to the limit and temp sensors start to hit their max allowable temp, another buzzer goes so the pilot knows that he is pushing the limit of his engine.
Please go on about how adding in an optional buzzer will dumb down the game.
The pilot you are trying to kill should be the one challenging you, not your own UI. Please tell us more about how a life & death situation is comparable to a computer game.
if I added in a couple words it would change the whole thing, so let me do so:
In a jet fighter game.... etc.. go f-yourself etc...
The point is, the UI should let the player concentrate on the target and eliminating that target without worrying this his UI would go unnoticed.
You want to go more in-depth? Fine.
In general design of user-interfaces, all things that would incapacitate the machine all have buzzers. This is critical especially when it comes to overheating. If your multimillion dollar machine goes down because you weren't paying enough attention to the UI, then the fault goes down to the designer for not DEMANDING attention from the pilot to this one piece of the UI.
Just ignoring something like this just for the sake of difficulty is stupid. You should know this. If you have to rely on the enemy making mistakes, then you're not flying to the best of your capability.
All that needs to happen is that a buzzer would sound if in one, or two cycles, the mod will burnout.
So, tell me how this will dumb down the game. Justify not adding one ******* important buzzer.
inb4: it will make it easier and we can't have that.
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Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
911
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Posted - 2012.10.23 17:22:00 -
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Metal Icarus wrote:So, tell me how this will dumb down the game. Justify not adding one ******* important buzzer.
It encourages people to be lazy & stupid, which pretty much defeats the purpose of EVE being unique. Crimewatch 2.0: Protecting stupid people & rewarding lazy people. This hurts the smart & industrious people by making their intelligence & industry provide them with less benefit over the stupid & lazy people. ~ Ruby Porto |
awhiplash
Machete Diplomacy
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Posted - 2012.10.23 17:23:00 -
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i do not undersand why people are being so negative about this idea. Anything that can help you as a pilot to become better is a plus. This would be a great addition to the game in my opion. Instead of changing how the locked target image or logo, I think this would be a better addition. The above post is true. I think there are more important things to consider and keep in mind when you are in battle, than to keep an eye on how heated your mods are. |
awhiplash
Machete Diplomacy
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Posted - 2012.10.23 17:25:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:Metal Icarus wrote:So, tell me how this will dumb down the game. Justify not adding one ******* important buzzer. It encourages people to be lazy & stupid, which pretty much defeats the purpose of EVE being unique. you are just being a jerk. |
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Metal Icarus
Endless Destruction
310
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Posted - 2012.10.23 18:04:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:Metal Icarus wrote:So, tell me how this will dumb down the game. Justify not adding one ******* important buzzer. It encourages people to be lazy & stupid, which pretty much defeats the purpose of EVE being unique.
The thing that worries me is that you're implying that it would STOP the module from overheating. I mean, you want to encourage people to be lazy and stupid, lets put in "keep at range" so that the pilot doesn't have to worry about keeping range at something. Who needs to maneuver? Oh btw this works in combat.
its a sound. Eve has sound. Sound doesn't make you do anything, it just gives you information.
What you do with that information is up to you.
Keep at range however, encourages ppl to be lazy and stupid. |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
912
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Posted - 2012.10.23 18:13:00 -
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Metal Icarus wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:Metal Icarus wrote:So, tell me how this will dumb down the game. Justify not adding one ******* important buzzer. It encourages people to be lazy & stupid, which pretty much defeats the purpose of EVE being unique. The thing that worries me is that you're implying that it would STOP the module from overheating.
I don't know how you got that impression from what I said, but I was really trying to tell you that unicorns exist.
Crimewatch 2.0: Protecting stupid people & rewarding lazy people. This hurts the smart & industrious people by making their intelligence & industry provide them with less benefit over the stupid & lazy people. ~ Ruby Porto |
Metal Icarus
Endless Destruction
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Posted - 2012.10.23 18:20:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:Metal Icarus wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:Metal Icarus wrote:So, tell me how this will dumb down the game. Justify not adding one ******* important buzzer. It encourages people to be lazy & stupid, which pretty much defeats the purpose of EVE being unique. The thing that worries me is that you're implying that it would STOP the module from overheating. I don't know how you got that impression from what I said, but I was really trying to tell you that unicorns exist.
Well they did exist, it just that the gov....
/facepalm
shut up. |
awhiplash
Machete Diplomacy
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Posted - 2012.10.23 18:38:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:Metal Icarus wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:Metal Icarus wrote:So, tell me how this will dumb down the game. Justify not adding one ******* important buzzer. It encourages people to be lazy & stupid, which pretty much defeats the purpose of EVE being unique. The thing that worries me is that you're implying that it would STOP the module from overheating. I don't know how you got that impression from what I said, but I was really trying to tell you that unicorns exist. please stop posting if you have no valid argument.
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HollyShocker 2inthestink
State War Academy Caldari State
38
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Posted - 2012.10.23 18:51:00 -
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Metal Icarus wrote:A fighter pilot wont look at blinking light in the middle of a fight to indicate a lock, so they put in a buzzer. Same fighter pilot needs to know he is being tracked by a missile, they put in a buzzer. Also, when they are pushing their jet engines to the limit and temp sensors start to hit their max allowable temp, another buzzer goes so the pilot knows that he is pushing the limit of his engine.
Please go on about how adding in an optional buzzer will dumb down the game.
The pilot you are trying to kill should be the one challenging you, not your own UI.
This ^ |
Adeleda Adoudel
Welp The Monkey Free Enterprise Treaty Organization
17
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Posted - 2012.10.23 19:03:00 -
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I only ever burnt out my mwd and only the one time. I'm sure most of eve has done the same once, maybbe twice before learning. Its not a problem with the game so don't try to fix what isn't broken. Instead leard adapt overcome. |
Metal Icarus
Endless Destruction
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Posted - 2012.10.23 20:24:00 -
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Adeleda Adoudel wrote:I only ever burnt out my mwd and only the one time. I'm sure most of eve has done the same once, maybbe twice before learning. Its not a problem with the game so don't try to fix what isn't broken. Instead leard adapt overcome.
It is like everyone just wants to use this knowledge to their advantage, people would sacrifice usability/utility to gain this advantage. Granted, a mistake in this part of the game is life and death.
"I want my opponent to have less knowledge than I do at this game, so he may burn out his guns/tank"
Let's switch sides
When it is all on the line for that one cycle, and that one cycle is only thing between you killing your opponent, you decide to stop OH'ing your point and your opponent, who is at 25km away, and spamming warp, gets away because you weren't sure if your point would break or not.
A simple beep that would mean you got 1 or 2 cycles left before it is rendered inoperable would have gotten you that kill.
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Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
915
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Posted - 2012.10.23 20:29:00 -
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awhiplash wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:Metal Icarus wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:Metal Icarus wrote:So, tell me how this will dumb down the game. Justify not adding one ******* important buzzer. It encourages people to be lazy & stupid, which pretty much defeats the purpose of EVE being unique. The thing that worries me is that you're implying that it would STOP the module from overheating. I don't know how you got that impression from what I said, but I was really trying to tell you that unicorns exist. please stop posting if you have no valid argument.
I've posted my valid arguments on the first page. I can't help it that you have no valid retort. Not to mention that this thread should probably be in the Features & Ideas section.
Crimewatch 2.0: Protecting stupid people & rewarding lazy people. This hurts the smart & industrious people by making their intelligence & industry provide them with less benefit over the stupid & lazy people. ~ Ruby Porto |
Metal Icarus
Endless Destruction
315
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Posted - 2012.10.23 20:46:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote: I've posted my valid arguments on the first page. I can't help it that you have no valid retort. Not to mention that this thread should probably be in the Features & Ideas section.
How about this retort then....
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=165859&find=unread
Why don't you go there and complain like a ***** you were in this thread. Pick your battles, you chose... poorly.
I mean, if you REALLY stood against Eve encouraging the lazy....
BTW let me fix something for you...
Mallak Azaria wrote: I've posted my short-sighted and knee-jerk arguments on the first page. I can't help it that you have no valid retort. Not to mention that this thread should probably be in the Features & Ideas section.
yeah, lets get this into F&I. |
Nariya Kentaya
Tartarus Ventures Surely You're Joking
218
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Posted - 2012.10.23 20:56:00 -
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Metal Icarus wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:Metal Icarus wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:Metal Icarus wrote:So, tell me how this will dumb down the game. Justify not adding one ******* important buzzer. It encourages people to be lazy & stupid, which pretty much defeats the purpose of EVE being unique. The thing that worries me is that you're implying that it would STOP the module from overheating. I don't know how you got that impression from what I said, but I was really trying to tell you that unicorns exist. Well they did exist, it just that the gov.... /facepalm shut up. A long time ago, when the Earth was green There was more kinds of animals than you've ever seen They'd run around free while the Earth was being born And the loveliest of all was the unicorn
There was green alligators and long-necked geese Some humpty backed camels and some chimpanzees Some cats and rats and elephants, but sure as you're born The loveliest of all was the unicorn
etc etc etc
The ark started moving, it drifted with the tide The unicorns looked up from the rocks and they cried And the waters came down and sort of floated them away That's why you never see unicorns to this very day |
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