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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
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Posted - 2012.10.24 15:35:00 -
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Unprocessed Ore goes in the Orca's Ore Hold.
Unprocessed Ice Products go in the Orca's Ore Hold.
Unprocessed Gas Cloud material does not go in the Orca's Ore Hold.
Is there any particular reason for this ? |
Lucy Oreless
Raptus-Regaliter EntroPraetorian Aegis
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Posted - 2012.10.24 15:51:00 -
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The Orca's airvents in the ore-hold can't be closed, hence the gas escapes. _____________________________________________________________________________________ Do you wanna PVP? Join us -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=162144 |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
952
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Posted - 2012.10.24 15:53:00 -
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Lucy Oreless wrote:The Orca's airvents in the ore-hold can't be closed, hence the gas escapes.
Not really a good idea for a spaceship to have air vents that open into space. Next............... |
Lucy Oreless
Raptus-Regaliter EntroPraetorian Aegis
44
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Posted - 2012.10.24 15:58:00 -
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Why not? Capsulers are safe within their pods anyways Who needs air when there is yellow goo!
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Twoso
Hedion University Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2012.10.24 16:02:00 -
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Lucy Oreless wrote:Why not? Capsulers are safe within their pods anyways Who needs air when there is yellow goo! the crew |
Vanyr Andrard
Foo Holdings Free 2 Play
13
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Posted - 2012.10.24 17:11:00 -
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Twoso wrote:Lucy Oreless wrote:Why not? Capsulers are safe within their pods anyways Who needs air when there is yellow goo! the crew
got sucked out 10 years ago, that's why you don't have to buy food for them anymore. You did feed them before, right? right???...oh, you horrible horrible man. |
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
1057
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Posted - 2012.10.24 17:40:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Is there any particular reason for this ? Ore and ice are handled the same by the code. There is no difference between them.
e.g. you cant refine gas, so gas is different. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
952
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Posted - 2012.10.24 18:00:00 -
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Tau Cabalander wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Is there any particular reason for this ? Ore and ice are handled the same by the code. There is no difference between them. e.g. you cant refine gas, so gas is different.
Ah, but the gas does get reacted with water in order to form Boosters. But it remains that It is a raw product just like Ice or Ore. So is the point of an Ore Hold to hold raw product or truly refineable only ? |
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
1058
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Posted - 2012.10.24 18:53:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Ah, but the gas does get reacted with water in order to form Boosters. But it remains that It is a raw product just like Ice or Ore. So is the point of an Ore Hold to hold raw product or truly refineable only ? As originally coded, according to CCP [there is a post around here somewhere] the ore hold is for hauling ore-like material. It was easier to code that way.
Sure it could / should be changed, but I was only responding to the question posed |
Vanyr Andrard
Foo Holdings Free 2 Play
15
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Posted - 2012.10.24 19:50:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Tau Cabalander wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Is there any particular reason for this ? Ore and ice are handled the same by the code. There is no difference between them. e.g. you cant refine gas, so gas is different. Ah, but the gas does get reacted with water in order to form Boosters. But it remains that It is a raw product just like Ice or Ore. So is the point of an Ore Hold to hold raw product or truly refineable only ?
you can't put water in the ore hold either.
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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
952
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Posted - 2012.10.24 21:50:00 -
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Vanyr Andrard wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Tau Cabalander wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Is there any particular reason for this ? Ore and ice are handled the same by the code. There is no difference between them. e.g. you cant refine gas, so gas is different. Ah, but the gas does get reacted with water in order to form Boosters. But it remains that It is a raw product just like Ice or Ore. So is the point of an Ore Hold to hold raw product or truly refineable only ? you can't put water in the ore hold either.
Water from a PI planet is considered P1, after refining Aqueous Liquids (P0). I don't think I've tried loading a P0 into an Orca Ore Hold........ |
Vanyr Andrard
Foo Holdings Free 2 Play
15
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Posted - 2012.10.24 21:56:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Vanyr Andrard wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Tau Cabalander wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Is there any particular reason for this ? Ore and ice are handled the same by the code. There is no difference between them. e.g. you cant refine gas, so gas is different. Ah, but the gas does get reacted with water in order to form Boosters. But it remains that It is a raw product just like Ice or Ore. So is the point of an Ore Hold to hold raw product or truly refineable only ? you can't put water in the ore hold either. Water from a PI planet is considered P1, after refining Aqueous Liquids (P0). I don't think I've tried loading a P0 into an Orca Ore Hold........
you can't put aqueous liquids in the ore hold either.
(notice the pattern here? for X, where X is not ore, 'you can't put X in the ore hold either' brilliantly simple :) This thing, called the ore hold, only fits ore. Ore, not anything else. Yep. ) |
Doddy
Excidium. Executive Outcomes
337
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Posted - 2012.10.24 23:09:00 -
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FWI this will be changing with the coming patch, ccp finally noticed it with their new gas harvesting ore hold equiped frigate. |
Vanyr Andrard
Foo Holdings Free 2 Play
15
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Posted - 2012.10.25 00:00:00 -
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Doddy wrote:FWI this will be changing with the coming patch, ccp finally noticed it with their new gas harvesting ore hold equiped frigate.
changing only for the frigate, or for all other ships with ore holds as well? |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
952
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Posted - 2012.10.25 12:50:00 -
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Doddy wrote:FWI this will be changing with the coming patch, ccp finally noticed it with their new gas harvesting ore hold equiped frigate.
This guy guessed the correct answer !
I brought up this thread when it became obvious to me that the Gas Harvesting Frigate would screw with the concept of an "ore" hold and that it would have to be looked at. Unless they add a 'Gas Hold' to an already tiny Frigate with both a Cargo and an Ore Hold.........rather unrealistic for such a small ship. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
952
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Posted - 2012.10.25 12:51:00 -
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Vanyr Andrard wrote:Doddy wrote:FWI this will be changing with the coming patch, ccp finally noticed it with their new gas harvesting ore hold equiped frigate. changing only for the frigate, or for all other ships with ore holds as well?
Nothing has been mentioned at all along these lines so far. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
952
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Posted - 2012.10.25 12:52:00 -
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Vanyr Andrard wrote: you can't put aqueous liquids in the ore hold either.
Thanks for conducting the experiment so I didn't have to waste time. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
952
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Posted - 2012.10.25 13:03:00 -
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Here is pretty much all we know. They mention Gas Harvesting, but it only has an Ore Hold and a tiny Cargo Hold.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=156057&find=unread
edit: corrected linkage |
Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
31
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Posted - 2012.10.25 13:40:00 -
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They confirmed somewhere that gas will go to that frig's OREGäó Hold. So far it is automatically deliverd there, but can't be put there manually. It was stated that it will be possible to load gas manually though. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
952
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Posted - 2012.10.25 14:16:00 -
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Barrogh Habalu wrote: They confirmed somewhere that gas will go to that frig's OREGäó Hold. So far it is automatically deliverd there, but can't be put there manually. It was stated that it will be possible to load gas manually though.
We need Linkage on that. Otherwise it is just absolute Speculation still. |
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Elena Thiesant
Sun Micro Systems
4
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Posted - 2012.10.25 14:22:00 -
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https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1953350#post1953350
CCP Ytterbium wrote:And yes, folks, despite its name, gas is automatically harvested into the Ore hold. Wanted to file a bug report to CCP Tuxford in case it didn't, but he was quite clever and implemented that ahead of time during the mining barge changes Clever girl.
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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
952
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Posted - 2012.10.25 14:36:00 -
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\0/ Yay. Thanks. I posed the question over there. |
Doddy
Excidium. Executive Outcomes
338
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Posted - 2012.10.25 15:30:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Doddy wrote:FWI this will be changing with the coming patch, ccp finally noticed it with their new gas harvesting ore hold equiped frigate. This guy guessed the correct answer ! I brought up this thread when it became obvious to me that the Gas Harvesting Frigate would screw with the concept of an "ore" hold and that it would have to be looked at. Unless they add a 'Gas Hold' to an already tiny Frigate with both a Cargo and an Ore Hold.........rather unrealistic for such a small ship.
Well you should have looked through the massive ore frig thread in F+I where its discussed at length. The worst part is ccp claim (krixtals post) it is already live but it actually isn't when people tried to test it. They definately mean to do it though, they just haven't got it right.
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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
953
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Posted - 2012.10.25 17:11:00 -
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Doddy wrote:
Well you should have looked through the massive ore frig thread in F+I where its discussed at length.
I had no idea I had gained a 3rd parent. |
Tanaka Sekigahara
United Space Marine Corp
134
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Posted - 2012.10.28 17:24:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
1027
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Posted - 2012.11.30 17:37:00 -
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So:
"Gas can now be moved into the Ore Hold of a mining ship."
http://community.eveonline.com/updates/patchnotes.asp RIP Vile Rat-á "The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about." - Oscar Wilde |
Daniel Plain
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
454
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Posted - 2012.11.30 19:02:00 -
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Vanyr Andrard wrote:You did feed them before, right? right???...oh, you horrible horrible man. that's what the ore and ice is for.
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings" -MXZF |
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