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Carlton Foster
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.10.26 01:23:00 -
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Come Retribution, will you continue to mine in high sec with a substantial bounty upon your character?
I'm just curious how the new bounty system might effect mining in high sec. |
Nanatoa
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
87
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Posted - 2012.10.26 01:24:00 -
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In addition to bumping, come Retribution we will start placing bounties on any miners refusing to buy a mining permit. Don't say you weren't warned It is never too late to turn from the errors of your ways: He who repents of his sins is almost innocent.
MinerBumping.com |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
314
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Posted - 2012.10.26 01:27:00 -
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It will effect mining by the uneccessary server load of miners rushing to the forums en masse to spill their tears upon it. Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Rengerel en Distel
Amarr Science and Industry
480
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Posted - 2012.10.26 01:37:00 -
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Who are these mystical people that are going to put large enough bounties on miners to matter? You know a bounty doesn't give people kill rights, right?
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Carlton Foster
The Scope Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2012.10.26 01:41:00 -
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Rengerel en Distel wrote:Who are these mystical people that are going to put large enough bounties on miners to matter? You know a bounty doesn't give people kill rights, right?
I am aware of how kill rights work.
My question is specific, not general. I am asking that if you as a high sec miner get a substantial bounty on your mining character, how will this effect your high sec mining? I'm not really talking about every miner in EvE getting a bounty. |
Touval Lysander
Zero Wine
492
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Posted - 2012.10.26 01:41:00 -
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Rengerel en Distel wrote:Who are these mystical people that are going to put large enough bounties on miners to matter? You know a bounty doesn't give people kill rights, right?
No but it will make ganking profitable.
OH NOES.... Did I just say that out aloud? "I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
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Theangryhobo
EntroPrelatial Industria EntroPraetorian Aegis
125
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Posted - 2012.10.26 01:46:00 -
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Nanatoa wrote:In addition to bumping, come Retribution we will start placing bounties on any miners refusing to buy a mining permit. Don't say you weren't warned
Now the only question is, how large shall the bounties be? After all, bumping has been such a profitable venture thus far, I'm sure we can splurge a bit.
That does it. 500 mil ISK bounties it is. www.minerbumping.com
Congratulations on beating high sec!-á Might I recommend trying out low sec, null sec, and wormhole space? - ISD Dorrim Barstorlode |
Malphilos
State War Academy Caldari State
198
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Posted - 2012.10.26 01:52:00 -
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Theangryhobo wrote:That does it. 500 mil ISK bounties it is.
Miners will mine themselves for your bounty.
Hop in a shuttle, gank with an alt, profit.
How does one get one of these 500mil bounties anyway? |
Kitty Bear
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam Disturbed Acquaintance
113
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Posted - 2012.10.26 01:54:00 -
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It needs to be a Billion, or your just not proving that it's worth the investment. |
Silk daShocka
Greasy Hair Club
50
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Posted - 2012.10.26 01:59:00 -
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Malphilos wrote:Theangryhobo wrote:That does it. 500 mil ISK bounties it is. Miners will mine themselves for your bounty. Hop in a shuttle, gank with an alt, profit. How does one get one of these 500mil bounties anyway?
That won't work come retribution. |
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Herr Hammer Draken
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
144
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Posted - 2012.10.26 02:01:00 -
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I am liking this retribution very much. Herr Hammer Draken "The Amarr Prophet" |
Inquisitor Kitchner
Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes
278
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Posted - 2012.10.26 02:01:00 -
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Touval Lysander wrote:
THREAD WARNING: First miner to type a response more than 10 lines will have a bounty placed on them! First nullmoanbear to type a response more than 3 lines will have triple bounty placed on them!
I think you should place a "triple bounty" on me, because assuming you dont mean the chocolate bar (i hate coconut) then I'd love to see how much money you waste on me.You, like most players on EVE-O forums lately, are out of kilter in your thinking compared to the reality of most situtions. At best your suggestions lack reasoning and at worst I suspect you make bad suggestions on purpose. If I had to give advice to yourself or any of the other bad posters with bad ideas out there it would be to clue yourself up on game mechanics and actually take part in what you're talking about before suggesting changes, "If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli |
Touval Lysander
Zero Wine
492
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Posted - 2012.10.26 02:06:00 -
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Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:Touval Lysander wrote:
THREAD WARNING: First miner to type a response more than 10 lines will have a bounty placed on them! First nullmoanbear to type a response more than 3 lines will have triple bounty placed on them!
I think you should place a "triple bounty" on me, because assuming you dont mean the chocolate bar (i hate coconut) then I'd love to see how much money you waste on me.You, like most players on EVE-O forums lately, are out of kilter in your thinking compared to the reality of most situtions. At best your suggestions lack reasoning and at worst I suspect you make bad suggestions on purpose. If I had to give advice to yourself or any of the other bad posters with bad ideas out there it would be to clue yourself up on game mechanics and actually take part in what you're talking about before suggesting changes, lolz. No bounty. Everything you said made sense.
Except for what you said after "I think".... "I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
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Sisohiv
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
117
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Posted - 2012.10.26 02:08:00 -
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If people are stupid enough to bounty me, I will farm it off. If they bounty ships I actually fly, they can try and blow them up. |
Shederov Blood
Wrecketeers
119
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Posted - 2012.10.26 02:08:00 -
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Malphilos wrote:Theangryhobo wrote:That does it. 500 mil ISK bounties it is. Miners will mine themselves for your bounty. Hop in a shuttle, gank with an alt, profit. How does one get one of these 500mil bounties anyway? Excellent idea! In order to collect that bounty by killing your own shuttles, you'll need to kill about 170,000 of them. |
non judgement
Without Fear Flying Burning Ships Alliance
838
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Posted - 2012.10.26 02:14:00 -
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Lets all put bounties on each other and see who can figure out, which ship is the best to use, to get the best return back, when killing yourself, with your alt. Is there a best ship to use? Because it's 20% of the ship value? Doesn't really sound like it'd be easy to remove the bounty yourself.
Do you really want to waste isk on a bounty that you probably wont be able to get back? You'll just be giving isk to other people. I guess a corporation could make a game of it. CEO places a bounty on a miner and the first in the corp to kill that miner gets the bounty. If the CEO kills the miner, he'll just get his own isk back. If he places more than 20% of the value of the ship on as bounty, I don't think he'll get it back. :\ |
Natsett Amuinn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
385
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Posted - 2012.10.26 02:28:00 -
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They're in the process of writting up the multiple threads that they'll be posting on Dec. 4th demanding CCP nerf the bounty system so that only they can use it to stop the evil bumpers. |
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
876
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Posted - 2012.10.26 02:30:00 -
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Considering that retribution doesn't introduce any new ways to collect the bounties placed on people I sincerely doubt that it will have any kind of meaningful effect on how miners behave. |
Natsett Amuinn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
386
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Posted - 2012.10.26 02:43:00 -
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Vimsy Vortis wrote:Considering that retribution doesn't introduce any new ways to collect the bounties placed on people I sincerely doubt that it will have any kind of meaningful effect on how miners behave. Can you explain this further please.
That's a genuine request; not being a smart ass.
What exactly do you mean by "new ways to collect the bounty"? |
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor Cosmic Consortium
1975
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Posted - 2012.10.26 02:50:00 -
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Vimsy Vortis wrote:Considering that retribution doesn't introduce any new ways to collect the bounties placed on people I sincerely doubt that it will have any kind of meaningful effect on how miners behave.
You need to read the memo: old bounties re paid in full when you pod the target. New bounties are paid out as a proportion of the value of the ship the target loses. That is a new way to collect the bounty. Day 0 advice for new players: Day 0 Advice for New Players |
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Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
343
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Posted - 2012.10.26 03:16:00 -
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Ignoring the issue of questioning who would actually be motivated enough to place all those bounties this interestingly raises the minimum payout for a gank on a Mackinaw whose pilot had a sufficient bounty pool to about 35-40mill (20% of hull cost + assuming all mods are lost and thus paid out at 20% of market value instead of dropping and being sold for full value as well as no salvage). An interesting proposition for any interested party, but that could be a lot of bounties to place. |
Luc Chastot
Moira. Villore Accords
43
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Posted - 2012.10.26 03:48:00 -
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Tyberius Franklin wrote:Ignoring the issue of questioning who would actually be motivated enough to place all those bounties this interestingly raises the minimum payout for a gank on a Mackinaw whose pilot had a sufficient bounty pool to about 35-40mill (20% of hull cost + assuming all mods are lost and thus paid out at 20% of market value instead of dropping and being sold for full value as well as no salvage). An interesting proposition for any interested party, but that could be a lot of bounties to place.
Now the question is, can you gank a miner in highsec and still make a profit? If the answer is "yes", coming next year, we're gonna drown in miner tears. Make it idiot-proof and someone will make a better idiot. |
Touval Lysander
Zero Wine
492
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Posted - 2012.10.26 03:56:00 -
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Luc Chastot wrote:Tyberius Franklin wrote:Ignoring the issue of questioning who would actually be motivated enough to place all those bounties this interestingly raises the minimum payout for a gank on a Mackinaw whose pilot had a sufficient bounty pool to about 35-40mill (20% of hull cost + assuming all mods are lost and thus paid out at 20% of market value instead of dropping and being sold for full value as well as no salvage). An interesting proposition for any interested party, but that could be a lot of bounties to place. Now the question is, can you gank a miner in highsec and still make a profit? If the answer is "yes", coming next year, we're gonna drown in miner tears. Of course, the profit will be from bounties that someone is going to pay if they think it's worth paying for.
You can, if you should chose, place a bounty on the miner yourself, kill him and collect.
Great system yes?
The new bit is where the miner can now put a bounty on YOU - AND sell the killrights - and EVERYONE is going to kill YOU.
Great system yes? "I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
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Sycho Pathic
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
67
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Posted - 2012.10.26 07:03:00 -
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Malphilos wrote:Theangryhobo wrote:That does it. 500 mil ISK bounties it is. Miners will mine themselves for your bounty. Hop in a shuttle, gank with an alt, profit. How does one get one of these 500mil bounties anyway?
SHHHHHHHH! Damnit,you'll ruin it for everyone! |
pussnheels
The Fiction Factory
673
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Posted - 2012.10.26 07:14:00 -
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Nanatoa wrote:In addition to bumping, come Retribution we will start placing bounties on any miners refusing to buy a mining permit. Don't say you weren't warned I hope you got acces to your daddy creditcard to buy plex/isk. Because it will cost you asmall fortune I do hope you buy iskies and get caught tho idiotic teenage white trash is something this game can miss
I do not agree with what you are saying , but i will defend to the death your right to say it...... Voltaire |
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
82
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Posted - 2012.10.26 07:17:00 -
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This all implies that you'll be able place bounties on people with positive security standings. Currently you cannot do this, and I don't recall reading that this rule was changed. Maybe I missed that part? EvE Forum Bingo |
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
17
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Posted - 2012.10.26 07:18:00 -
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Nanatoa wrote:In addition to bumping, come Retribution we will start placing bounties on any miners refusing to buy a mining permit. Don't say you weren't warned
Thus proving your crusade is not actually against AFK/Bot miners, but against anyone who won't bow down and give you money. If it really was against AFK/Bot miners, you wouldn't be including the legit miners in your efforts. And (per your manifesto) would be giving a little longer than 5 secs to reply.
Edit: To the actual Op, I forgot to include this the first time, change to Procurer/Skiff. Fit at least 1 Stab (Though I often do that already if there are war decs on corp), continue to mine away like I do currently, keeping an eye on local, watching who is in the area with me, and warp off if I think a gank is going to happen. |
Riyal
Chode Extravaganza
54
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Posted - 2012.10.26 08:25:00 -
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pussnheels wrote:Nanatoa wrote:In addition to bumping, come Retribution we will start placing bounties on any miners refusing to buy a mining permit. Don't say you weren't warned I hope you got acces to your daddy creditcard to buy plex/isk. Because it will cost you asmall fortune I do hope you buy iskies and get caught tho idiotic teenage white trash is something this game can miss
You mean like the 20 billion invested in www.minerbumping.com already (people invested to suport the idea, and do not expect to see the isk again), placing bounties on miners would be more fun.
Now please continue to sell me ice at fabulously low prices, the bounty isk has to come from somewhere :) |
Inquisitor Kitchner
Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes
280
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Posted - 2012.10.26 09:06:00 -
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Touval Lysander wrote: lolz. No bounty. Everything you said made sense.
Except for what you said after "I think"....
Don't stick to your word? You are literally NCDotte "If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli |
Lolar55
Titan Core
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Posted - 2012.10.26 09:38:00 -
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I don't think this will pose any danger to miners.You will run out of money before anything that feels close to danger happens to them and their wallets. |
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