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Soi Mala
Whacky Waving Inflatable Flailing Arm Tubemen
49
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Posted - 2011.10.02 23:57:00 -
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HIC pilots everywhere are lolling right now.
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Austneal
Fevered Imaginings
1
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Posted - 2011.10.03 00:06:00 -
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Needa3 wrote:another clear sign ccp has no clue what they are doing.
soon titans will die to 10 man bs gangs with logi support.
CCp do you really think screwing up more is going to make people come back. youhave the awesome number of 26.000 players online right now. It use to we double.
don't you thing it is time to turn time back to Red Moon Rising?
Confirming that battleships can point titans |
Eternum Praetorian
PWNED Factor The Seventh Day
63
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Posted - 2011.10.03 00:17:00 -
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Sense it makes some!!
What are we going to do if we cant trash CCP anymore? Oh... I guess that we just keep flinging poop at each other instead. |
Ladie Scarlet
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
233
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Posted - 2011.10.03 02:20:00 -
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Needa3 wrote:another clear sign ccp has no clue what they are doing.
soon titans will die to 10 man bs gangs with logi support.
CCp do you really think screwing up more is going to make people come back. youhave the awesome number of 26.000 players online right now. It use to we double.
don't you thing it is time to turn time back to Red Moon Rising?
We need more posts like this. Mad ~elite PvPers~ crying about their I-Win buttons are awesome.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Sir Substance
Tactical Knightmare
27
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Posted - 2011.10.03 03:00:00 -
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To all the raging titan pilots: you brought it on yourselves. Deal w/ it. |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
8
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Posted - 2011.10.03 03:48:00 -
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A reasonable rebalance.
CCP has not gone over the top on this one.
Mr Epeen If you can read this, you haven't blocked me yet. |
Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
87
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Posted - 2011.10.03 05:07:00 -
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Ladie Scarlet wrote:Winter is coming...
Imma make a snowman out of crystallized ~LEET PVP~ tears. |
Gypsio III
Dirty Filthy Perverts
6
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Posted - 2011.10.03 07:39:00 -
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Austneal wrote:Needa3 wrote:another clear sign ccp has no clue what they are doing.
soon titans will die to 10 man bs gangs with logi support.
CCp do you really think screwing up more is going to make people come back. youhave the awesome number of 26.000 players online right now. It use to we double.
don't you thing it is time to turn time back to Red Moon Rising?
Confirming that battleships can point titans
Hopefully, removing immunity to normal tackle will be Part 2 of the supercap changes. |
Jita Alt666
289
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Posted - 2011.10.03 07:50:00 -
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Hopefully not. This adjustment will make HICs fun and useful to fly. Still hoping for a reduction in the ability of Supercaps to field large swarms of regulars drones. Still hoping for reduction in the ability of XL turrets on Titans to hit subcaps. Still hoping for a small/moderate adjustment on the EHP of the Aeon and the Nyx. |
Ladie Scarlet
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
236
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Posted - 2011.10.03 07:53:00 -
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Jita Alt666 wrote:Still hoping for reduction in the ability of XL turrets on Titans to hit subcaps. This has already been confirmed...their tracking is getting nerfed.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
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Jita Alt666
290
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Posted - 2011.10.03 07:59:00 -
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Ladie Scarlet wrote:Jita Alt666 wrote:Still hoping for reduction in the ability of XL turrets on Titans to hit subcaps. This has already been confirmed...their tracking is getting nerfed.
Nothing is confirmed until it occurs on tranquillity. Even then it might take 3 or 4 or 5 client updates to confirm things.
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Zeveron
Maza Nostra HELL4S
0
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Posted - 2011.10.03 08:03:00 -
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Before the nerf/change (put whatever you want) can you pls fix the following things?
1. Leviathan shield bonus. To get at full shields after of my OWN bonus application, I need 5-6h. And the shield bonus dont give you anything when a gazilion of ships (whatever size) shoots you.
2. Crystal vs Slave set. Is there any reason that armor tanks get an extra bonus here? And not to talk about akemons implant.
3. Pasive vs active tank. Is there a reason that armor tanked supers have like 4-5 times better tank than armor tanked supers. And thats mostly passive (with all what it brings)?
AFTER you fix those things, you can change the DD, the role of the ships, or delete the damn ships so we can all have peace........ |
Jita Alt666
290
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Posted - 2011.10.03 08:19:00 -
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Zeveron wrote:Before the nerf/change (put whatever you want) can you pls fix the following things?
1. Leviathan shield bonus. To get at full shields after of my OWN bonus application, I need 5-6h. And the shield bonus dont give you anything when a gazilion of ships (whatever size) shoots you.
2. Crystal vs Slave set. Is there any reason that armor tanks get an extra bonus here? And not to talk about akemons implant.
3. Pasive vs active tank. Is there a reason that armor tanked supers have like 4-5 times better tank than armor tanked supers. And thats mostly passive (with all what it brings)?
AFTER you fix those things, you can change the DD, the role of the ships, or delete the damn ships so we can all have peace........
1. Remote reps. 2. Guess why everyone trains Amarr/Gallente for their Cap alts? 3. Wait amor tanked supers have 4-5 times better tank than amor tanker supers? I agree that must be wrong. Fix it now CCP. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
370
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Posted - 2011.10.03 08:23:00 -
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Ladie Scarlet wrote:Jita Alt666 wrote:Still hoping for reduction in the ability of XL turrets on Titans to hit subcaps. This has already been confirmed...their tracking is getting nerfed.
Link to confirmation plx? Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |
Shadowsword
The Rough Riders Ares Protectiva
8
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Posted - 2011.10.03 08:58:00 -
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This nerf is welcome. I'd have rather make DD require a special npc fuel that cost 1B to discourage it's casual use, as well as make a small money sink, but it is also fine like that.
And seeing the "expensive ships should be invincibles" argument being invoked again and again in defense of broken mechanics always makes me smile. |
Fon Revedhort
Monks of War DarkSide.
2
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Posted - 2011.10.03 09:12:00 -
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Shadowsword wrote:This nerf is welcome. I'd have rather make DD require a special npc fuel that cost 1B to discourage it's casual use This won't work - you can gank a 3 bil Mach and get your bil back in loot while also having a free killmail and wasting someone's time.
10 bil might be OK, but I dislike the very idea of limiting the cost of a ship one can use. Why punish those who are willing to risk 20-30 bil officer fitted battleships?
If anything, Titan is to consume isk on a regular basis - as upkeep. CCP Greyscale: "is the Nighthawk actually underpowered?" |
Caius Sivaris
Dark Nexxus S I L E N T.
16
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Posted - 2011.10.03 09:16:00 -
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Large Collidable Object wrote:Quote:Notes: This weapon can only fire on ships that are capital-sized or larger. After firing, you will be immobile for thirty seconds and will be unable to activate your jump drive or cloaking device for ten minutes. Personally, i think that was unnecessary - if I value a subcap on field higher than any present cap, I should be able to DD it, but meh - the world is not gonna end because of it... Discuss
Guardians ans Damnations all over New Eden were heard emitting a sigh in relief. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
371
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Posted - 2011.10.03 09:31:00 -
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Caius Sivaris wrote:Large Collidable Object wrote:Quote:Notes: This weapon can only fire on ships that are capital-sized or larger. After firing, you will be immobile for thirty seconds and will be unable to activate your jump drive or cloaking device for ten minutes. Personally, i think that was unnecessary - if I value a subcap on field higher than any present cap, I should be able to DD it, but meh - the world is not gonna end because of it... Discuss Guardians ans Damnations all over New Eden were heard emitting a sigh in relief.
Lokis and Proteus as well Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |
Ned Black
Driders
0
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Posted - 2011.10.03 11:39:00 -
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Good change... but not enough.
The thing that really needs changing is that every shot that lands on a target target should bring the agression/logoff timer up to 15 minutes again, no mattter if the pilot have logged or not. So, if you manage to find the ship and shoot it before it disappears then it stay for another 15 minutes.
This way logging off in your supercap wont save you the way it is today. Right now if you log in a SC when things are looking grim you are very likely sitting on a get out of jail free card... and that is what needs changing. |
CynoNet Two
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2011.10.03 11:53:00 -
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Needa3 wrote:another clear sign ccp has no clue what they are doing.
soon titans will die to 10 man bs gangs with logi support.
Speaking as a player who owns 2 titans and is currently building several more titan hulls for others... this result cannot come soon enough. Now bring us increased aggro times for supercaps, a gun tracking nerf, a drone bay nerf, a supercarrier EHP nerf and I'll be happy.
Some people need to stop hiding behind their wallet and learn some teamwork. |
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CynoNet Two
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2011.10.03 12:06:00 -
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Zeveron wrote:Before the nerf/change (put whatever you want) can you pls fix the following things?
1. Leviathan shield bonus. To get at full shields after of my OWN bonus application, I need 5-6h. And the shield bonus dont give you anything when a gazilion of ships (whatever size) shoots you.
2. Crystal vs Slave set. Is there any reason that armor tanks get an extra bonus here? And not to talk about akemons implant.
3. Pasive vs active tank. Is there a reason that armor tanked supers have like 4-5 times better tank than armor tanked supers. And thats mostly passive (with all what it brings)?
AFTER you fix those things, you can change the DD, the role of the ships, or delete the damn ships so we can all have peace........
1. Should be fixed for general shield tanking, not just for the benefit of supercaps.
2. Yes there is. If you compare equal meta level shield gear to armour gear, you find that shield tankers come out with the same EHP levels due to active omni tank modules (invulns). The root cause is not that armour tankers get extra HP from slave sets, the issue is that their high-meta level armour gear is spawned more and in less demand than high-meta shield gear. Blame the empire missionfags paying billions to pimp out their CNR's for this one. Deadspace invulns wouldn't hurt though.
3. As above, at equal meta levels shield is on par with armour. The key difference is that armour gets more EHP from raw HP levels while shield gets it from resists, making it more efficient to remote rep. Shield also regenerates on its own. This can negate several thousand dps alone, so if your Leviathan takes 10mins to destroy imagine how much damage the innate passive tank is absorbing in that time. |
Josefius
Caldari Elite Force Apocalypse Now.
4
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Posted - 2011.10.03 13:51:00 -
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Scatim Helicon wrote:Needa3 wrote:another clear sign ccp has no clue what they are doing.
soon titans will die to 10 man bs gangs with logi support.
CCp do you really think screwing up more is going to make people come back. youhave the awesome number of 26.000 players online right now. It use to we double.
don't you thing it is time to turn time back to Red Moon Rising? a bloobloobloo I bought a big expensive auto-win button and now its being fixed a bloobloobloo
So true. |
Pestilent Industries
Pestilent Industries Amalgamated
2
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Posted - 2011.10.03 15:09:00 -
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I am going to have to come out and say that in this thread I see a lot of bitter newbies who are jealous of older rich experienced players who have invested the countless hours and immense amounts of ISK into purchasing and training for titans crying their eyes out over not having one themselves, and being very jealous of those who do.
I can promise that if any of these cry babies had their own titans, all complaints would disappear.
That said, Titans need to be balanced, and I am fine with this change, but holy crap, the amount of "have-not" tears in this thread is disgusting. |
DeliciousHamBeast
The Concilium Enterprises Spectrum Alliance
81
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Posted - 2011.10.03 16:21:00 -
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This sounds like a good idea to me; however you're all missing the most important question: Can you DD a Large Collidable Object, or does she count as a subcap? -- Pity me not, but lend thy serious hearing to what I shall unfold. |
Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
28
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Posted - 2011.10.03 17:10:00 -
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Pestilent Industries wrote:I am going to have to come out and say that in this thread I see a lot of bitter newbies who are jealous of older rich experienced players who have invested the countless hours and immense amounts of ISK into purchasing and training for titans crying their eyes out over not having one themselves, and being very jealous of those who do.
I can promise that if any of these cry babies had their own titans, all complaints would disappear.
That said, Titans need to be balanced, and I am fine with this change, but holy crap, the amount of "have-not" tears in this thread is disgusting.
I'm more than capable of buying and flying my own supercap but chose not to because it was blatantly obvious a year or more ago they were going to get nerfed. A lot of short sighted idiots chose to hop on the bandwagon thinking that a supercap was a one-way ticket to Elite Pee Vee Pee status and that spending 50 billion or more on a ship would guarantee them risk-free killmail printing for life, and a lot of previously well regarded corps and alliances chose to sully their reputation by recruiting any clueless idiot who managed to get themselves into one. They'll get theirs. Winter is coming. |
Messoroz
AQUILA INC
26
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Posted - 2011.10.03 17:13:00 -
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Pestilent Industries wrote:I am going to have to come out and say that in this thread I see a lot of bitter newbies who are jealous of older rich experienced players who have invested the countless hours and immense amounts of ISK into purchasing and training for titans crying their eyes out over not having one themselves, and being very jealous of those who do.
Or they ran a bots for a few hours in null |
PotatoOverdose
Royal Black Watch Highlanders Warped Aggression
3
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Posted - 2011.10.03 17:20:00 -
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A step in the right direction. |
Avon
Versatech Co. Raiden.
71
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Posted - 2011.10.03 17:21:00 -
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Renan Ruivo wrote:Titans were not made to be a subcap killer. CCP is correcting that mistake.
Actually, they were - I'm not saying that is the right role for them now, but it really was their intended role when introduced - killing blobs of subcaps.
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Ladie Scarlet
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
238
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Posted - 2011.10.03 17:26:00 -
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Avon wrote:Renan Ruivo wrote:Titans were not made to be a subcap killer. CCP is correcting that mistake. Actually, they were - I'm not saying that is the right role for them now, but it really was their intended role when introduced - killing blobs of subcaps. Haha you're dumb.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Avon
Versatech Co. Raiden.
71
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Posted - 2011.10.03 17:29:00 -
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Ladie Scarlet wrote:Avon wrote:Renan Ruivo wrote:Titans were not made to be a subcap killer. CCP is correcting that mistake. Actually, they were - I'm not saying that is the right role for them now, but it really was their intended role when introduced - killing blobs of subcaps. Haha you're dumb. ...and yet I manage to be right.
Unless you have any evidence to counter my point?
No, thought not. |
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