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Frost Journeaux
Desertus Caterva Casoff
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Posted - 2012.10.30 02:48:00 -
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I'm not seeing a fleet bonus form the laser optimizer 1 ganglink and the mining laser field enhancement 1 ganglink
Skills mining Director 4 Leadership 5 wing command 2 All skills for the 2 links in use
I'm not seeing even though I'm squad leader and set as fleet booster , I'm not seeing the boost on anyone in fleet when they check times for cycles and for distance?
Green check mark in fleet , yes
and yes they are on, Yes fleet is set up right yes we are all in same belt, no one one is in warp or in station.
whole squad is in the same belt ....
Am I required to have Mining foreman Mindlink Implant?
Am I missing something?
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Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
947
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Posted - 2012.10.30 02:56:00 -
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Let me hop in your Orca & I'll fix it for you. Crimewatch 2.0: Protecting stupid people & rewarding lazy people. This hurts the smart & industrious people by making their intelligence & industry provide them with less benefit over the stupid & lazy people. ~ Ruby Porto |
Ammzi
Infinite Covenant Tribal Band
1058
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Posted - 2012.10.30 02:57:00 -
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If you want I have an alt in highsec that can fly an orca. I can come by and check it out for you? quote CCP Spitfire
"Hello Im Blue,"
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Frost Journeaux
Desertus Caterva Casoff
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Posted - 2012.10.30 02:58:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:Let me hop in your Orca & I'll fix it for you. yea That SOUNDS GREAT, (sarcasm) |
Frost Journeaux
Desertus Caterva Casoff
2
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Posted - 2012.10.30 02:59:00 -
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just going to put this out there No one else is driving my Orca..... dont try |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1652
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Posted - 2012.10.30 04:09:00 -
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Frost Journeaux wrote:I'm not seeing a fleet bonus form the laser optimizer 1 ganglink and the mining laser field enhancement 1 ganglink
Skills mining Director 4 Leadership 5 wing command 2 All skills for the 2 links in use
I'm not seeing even though I'm squad leader and set as fleet booster , I'm not seeing the boost on anyone in fleet when they check times for cycles and for distance?
Green check mark in fleet , yes
and yes they are on, Yes fleet is set up right yes we are all in same belt, no one one is in warp or in station.
whole squad is in the same belt ....
Am I required to have Mining foreman Mindlink Implant?
Am I missing something? Hm, you shouldn't need that.
You are FLEET booster? That's wrong. Set yourself as squad booster and have the alts in the squad under it.
Bonuses are passed down, if you were using fleet, you'd need fleet command, and have a wing booster with wing command etc etc. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
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ISD Suvetar
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
697
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Posted - 2012.10.30 04:17:00 -
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Who's getting the Green tick, you or your squad ?
Alavaria seems right on the money though! ISD Suvetar,-áCaptain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department We are hiring! |
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Frost Journeaux
Desertus Caterva Casoff
2
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Posted - 2012.10.30 04:19:00 -
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everyone had green tick |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1652
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Posted - 2012.10.30 04:29:00 -
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If they had a squad booster, they were getting bonuses from the squad booster. NOT your orca character who was fleet booster. Remember, having a few ranks in Leadership will give a bonus and hence green tick. The game doesn't care that your ORCA's bonuses go nowhere, if they get some Targeting speed bonus from squad booster. Tick means you are getting some bonus. Hover over it, it won't say "You are recieving bonuses from: Fleet Booster"
Passing down bonuses need an unbroken chain from Fleet Booster -> Wing Booster -> Squad Booster
Or you can just be squad booster. SO make yourself squad booster, unless you have what 12 alts? Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
Skydell
Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums
328
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Posted - 2012.10.30 04:39:00 -
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Alavaria is correct.
You can set yourself to Fleet with Wing but you won't provide bonus. You will need Fleet Command 1 for that, allowing you a Wing. |
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rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
809
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Posted - 2012.10.30 05:53:00 -
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I wish they, wouldn't allow that, but I suppose blobs do need to be formed, and no one should be blamed when 100 people don't have wing command or fleet command trained. I'm not shitposting. |
Frost Journeaux
Desertus Caterva Casoff
2
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Posted - 2012.10.30 10:17:00 -
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OK I was set as Squad leader.
I was set as Fleet booster (Should this have been squad booster?) |
Inquisitor Kitchner
Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes
304
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Posted - 2012.10.30 10:53:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:If they had a squad booster, they were getting bonuses from the squad booster. NOT your orca character who was fleet booster. Remember, having a few ranks in Leadership will give a bonus and hence green tick. The game doesn't care that your ORCA's bonuses go nowhere, if they get some Targeting speed bonus from squad booster. Tick means you are getting some bonus. Hover over it, it won't say "You are recieving bonuses from: Fleet Booster"
Passing down bonuses need an unbroken chain from Fleet Booster -> Wing Booster -> Squad Booster
Or you can just be squad booster. SO make yourself squad booster, unless you have what 12 alts?
Goons helping pubbie miners, what next? "If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli |
rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
811
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Posted - 2012.10.30 10:54:00 -
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Yep, squad leader or any leader doesn't matter much when it comes to who is the booster. Leader just sets who the booster is. I'm not shitposting. |
Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
782
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Posted - 2012.10.30 11:12:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:If they had a squad booster, they were getting bonuses from the squad booster. NOT your orca character who was fleet booster. Remember, having a few ranks in Leadership will give a bonus and hence green tick. The game doesn't care that your ORCA's bonuses go nowhere, if they get some Targeting speed bonus from squad booster. Tick means you are getting some bonus. Hover over it, it won't say "You are recieving bonuses from: Fleet Booster"
Passing down bonuses need an unbroken chain from Fleet Booster -> Wing Booster -> Squad Booster
Or you can just be squad booster. SO make yourself squad booster, unless you have what 12 alts?
Yah that'd be correct, but to make it less confusing you could just say the proper position instead of (ab)using the "booster" word.
Fleet Command -> Wing Command -> Squad Command. The fleet booster role is for the fleet-sized blobs that want someone giving bonuses that is not the same guy as the fleet commander, that is all. Noone should ever care about the "booster" role if they don't do blobs anyway. Like me/others said, Alavaria is correct, the booster just happens to be a very specific role that you never really need to use, and I know plenty of people who keeps thinking they need their whatever-skilled characters in a booster role. They don't even realise that the commander role is doing the job.
TL;DR just park the proper character in the correct command-role. If you're less than 10, Orca goes in Squad Command. 11+, put Orca in Wing Command and have someone with Leadership 5 take Squad Command. Unless you really want someone else to be in that chain to fleet-/wing-/squad-warp people around, the 'booster' role is unecessary. AFK-cloaking in a system near you. |
Abdiel Kavash
Paladin Order Fidelas Constans
977
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Posted - 2012.10.30 11:56:00 -
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In the simplest of cases (up to 11 people), remember that if the leadership character is the one who creates the fleet, everything will already be set up correctly from the start.
However there are cases when the bonuses just refuse to work for whatever reason. If you are sure you are set up properly, disband the fleet, relog the leadership character, and form the fleet again. |
Sidrat Flush
Eve Industrial Corp
17
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Posted - 2012.10.30 13:10:00 -
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Would it be too difficult to provide a hovertip telling individuals where the bonuses are coming from and what impact they're having? |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
955
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Posted - 2012.10.30 13:22:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:If they had a squad booster, they were getting bonuses from the squad booster. NOT your orca character who was fleet booster. Remember, having a few ranks in Leadership will give a bonus and hence green tick. The game doesn't care that your ORCA's bonuses go nowhere, if they get some Targeting speed bonus from squad booster. Tick means you are getting some bonus. Hover over it, it won't say "You are recieving bonuses from: Fleet Booster"
Passing down bonuses need an unbroken chain from Fleet Booster -> Wing Booster -> Squad Booster
Or you can just be squad booster. SO make yourself squad booster, unless you have what 12 alts?
Wow. Thanks.
I was told 1 1/2 yrs ago to use the Squad Boost but nobody knew why ! |
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
1064
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Posted - 2012.10.30 17:43:00 -
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https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1879097#post1879097 |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1655
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Posted - 2012.10.30 19:58:00 -
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Sidrat Flush wrote:Would it be too difficult to provide a hovertip telling individuals where the bonuses are coming from and what impact they're having? EVE Online is hardcore, so no.
Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:If they had a squad booster, they were getting bonuses from the squad booster. NOT your orca character who was fleet booster. Remember, having a few ranks in Leadership will give a bonus and hence green tick. The game doesn't care that your ORCA's bonuses go nowhere, if they get some Targeting speed bonus from squad booster. Tick means you are getting some bonus. Hover over it, it won't say "You are recieving bonuses from: Fleet Booster"
Passing down bonuses need an unbroken chain from Fleet Booster -> Wing Booster -> Squad Booster
Or you can just be squad booster. SO make yourself squad booster, unless you have what 12 alts? Goons helping pubbie miners, what next? I'd laugh but I'm looking at the prices of a mackinaw and retriever and going hmm...
Orcas are pretty expensive though. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
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Frost Journeaux
Desertus Caterva Casoff
2
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Posted - 2012.10.30 20:01:00 -
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why is this system so difficult? I feel like this is probably the most difficult way to set up fleets I have ever seen.
also I have tried all of the above ways of setups and I still am not seeing a difference in cycle times for the squad. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1656
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Posted - 2012.10.30 20:19:00 -
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Frost Journeaux wrote:why is this system so difficult? I feel like this is probably the most difficult way to set up fleets I have ever seen.
also I have tried all of the above ways of setups and I still am not seeing a difference in cycle times for the squad. Hm, so you have: Orca pilot in squad command, squad booster Ganglinks turned on Alts as squad members below the orca All characters in space in the same system
Take a screenshot of the fleet composition with hierarchy on. (Oh and black out the names if you think people will gank you, though I doubt it's ~profitable~)
The system used to be even worse, apparently. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
Skydell
Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums
328
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Posted - 2012.10.30 21:42:00 -
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I don't own an Orca so I can't test it but 180 to 158.4 with a Vulture and an Optimization link. The bonus itself is working. |
non judgement
Without Fear Flying Burning Ships Alliance
838
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Posted - 2012.10.30 22:17:00 -
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I was mining yesterday with an Orca. Have him as the wing commander and he is boosting everyone in the wing. You shouldn't have to change the booster unless the leader isn't the one doing the boosting. |
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