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Den Arius
Forestry Commision The Grizzly Bears
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Posted - 2012.11.03 20:57:00 -
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Natsett Amuinn wrote:Den Arius wrote:Andski wrote:hey Prencleeve what are your thoughts on my good friend Blawrf McTaggart He's one of the only folks who was reasonable. I should be allowed to express myself freely on these forums without being threatened though - don't you agree? Threatened?
Blawrf was the man who phoned my grandmother because I decided to launch a campaign against Goons. Why this is acceptable on CCPs or Goons terms, I do not know. Anyway, this behavior is borderline-illegal meta gaming and should be dealt with in game with a united pubbie front.
* not suggesting I'll be leading that front
EDIT: Those name's were incorrect (only for trolling purposes) I believe. ----- Proud supporter of James 315's New Order of High Sec | Shareholder and Agent -----á https://dl.dropbox.com/u/75231886/Prencleeve.jpg | -áhttp://www.minerbumping.com/ |
Bane Necran
Appono Astos
660
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Posted - 2012.11.03 20:58:00 -
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Will be the same as it was before and during Goonswarms existence. "It's no use crying over spilt milk, because all the forces of the universe were bent on spilling it." ~William Maugham |
Den Arius
Forestry Commision The Grizzly Bears
23
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Posted - 2012.11.03 21:00:00 -
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Bane Necran wrote:Will be the same as it was before and during Goonswarms existence.
I think that is a fair statement. EVE will grow and be the same with or without Goons, however the goons represent a big griefing culture - it would possibly help shift EVE's atmosphere. ----- Proud supporter of James 315's New Order of High Sec | Shareholder and Agent -----á https://dl.dropbox.com/u/75231886/Prencleeve.jpg | -áhttp://www.minerbumping.com/ |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5455
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Posted - 2012.11.03 21:06:00 -
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Den Arius wrote:EDIT: Those name's were incorrect (only for trolling purposes) I believe.
Or having their former coworkers harassed. ~*a-áproud belligerent undesirable*~
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Den Arius
Forestry Commision The Grizzly Bears
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Posted - 2012.11.03 21:07:00 -
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Andski wrote:Den Arius wrote:EDIT: Those name's were incorrect (only for trolling purposes) I believe. Or having their former coworkers harassed.
I lied. I just said that for attention. ----- Proud supporter of James 315's New Order of High Sec | Shareholder and Agent -----á https://dl.dropbox.com/u/75231886/Prencleeve.jpg | -áhttp://www.minerbumping.com/ |
Natsett Amuinn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
489
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Posted - 2012.11.03 21:10:00 -
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Den Arius wrote:Andski wrote:Den Arius wrote:EDIT: Those name's were incorrect (only for trolling purposes) I believe. Or having their former coworkers harassed. I lied. I just said that for attention. You behaive like a child, and then you think that an adult who does the appropriate thing and informing a parent or guardian that your misbehaiving is a threat?
You write very well for a child, and you liked to write about how mature you are.
Kid, you got a LONG ways to go to mature.
Edit: You should be grateful the adult you antagonized was able to behaive like a rational adult and didn't go CoD dude on you. I'm sure that kid would have rather got a phone call instead of his neck wrung. |
Den Arius
Forestry Commision The Grizzly Bears
23
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Posted - 2012.11.03 21:11:00 -
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Natsett Amuinn wrote:Den Arius wrote:Andski wrote:Den Arius wrote:EDIT: Those name's were incorrect (only for trolling purposes) I believe. Or having their former coworkers harassed. I lied. I just said that for attention. You behaive like a child, and then you think that an adult who does the appropriate thing and informing a parent or guardian that your misbehaiving is a threat? You write very well for a child, and you liked to write about how mature you are. Kid, you got a LONG ways to go to mature.
I understand that (the SA guys taught me that), but I my issue is - I don't think that is relevant on an internet spaceships forum. Blawrf didn't contact my parents, he contacted my grandmother - an elderly woman who gets stressed very easily.
EDIT: I did nothing to the adult. I didn't contact him. I didn't contact anybody related to him. ----- Proud supporter of James 315's New Order of High Sec | Shareholder and Agent -----á https://dl.dropbox.com/u/75231886/Prencleeve.jpg | -áhttp://www.minerbumping.com/ |
Natsett Amuinn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
489
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Posted - 2012.11.03 21:13:00 -
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Den Arius wrote:Natsett Amuinn wrote:Den Arius wrote:Andski wrote:Den Arius wrote:EDIT: Those name's were incorrect (only for trolling purposes) I believe. Or having their former coworkers harassed. I lied. I just said that for attention. You behaive like a child, and then you think that an adult who does the appropriate thing and informing a parent or guardian that your misbehaiving is a threat? You write very well for a child, and you liked to write about how mature you are. Kid, you got a LONG ways to go to mature. I understand that (the SA guys taught me that), but I my issue is - I don't think that is relevant on an internet spaceships forum. Blawrf didn't contact my parents, he contacted my grandmother - an elderly woman who gets stressed very easily. It is when you made a general remark about people being "offenders".
You made a comment with no context, and it was entirely based on your actions. A sign of maturity is learning when you were wrong and accepting the consequences of your actions, something you obviously haven't learned given the initial post you made. |
Den Arius
Forestry Commision The Grizzly Bears
23
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Posted - 2012.11.03 21:15:00 -
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Offensives in terms of actions which are upsetting to other players. Griefing and scamming - you can't deny that you haven't offended in terms of doing that, can you? ----- Proud supporter of James 315's New Order of High Sec | Shareholder and Agent -----á https://dl.dropbox.com/u/75231886/Prencleeve.jpg | -áhttp://www.minerbumping.com/ |
SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
768
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Posted - 2012.11.03 21:16:00 -
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You should make a thread telling us about how you read Das Kapital like 300 times and it how that makes you mature. |
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fukier
Flatline.
92
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Posted - 2012.11.03 21:19:00 -
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i started to play in late 05 made this char in 06 so i have no clue what this game would be like without goons... but hell there is test now... so everything would be A OK... At the end of the game both the pawn and the Queen go in the same box. |
Natsett Amuinn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
489
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Posted - 2012.11.03 21:19:00 -
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SmilingVagrant wrote:You should make a thread telling us about how you read Das Kapital like 300 times and it how that makes you mature. I've lost count the number of times I read The Hobbit, I was 11 the first time, and I'm 36 now. What's that make me?
Other then a geek. |
Den Arius
Forestry Commision The Grizzly Bears
23
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Posted - 2012.11.03 21:21:00 -
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fukier wrote:i started to play in late 05 made this char in 06 so i have no clue what this game would be like without goons... but hell there is test now... so everything would be A OK...
Love them or hate them, Goons have been a predominant part of EVE for a while now. They're one of the main reasons CCP gets as much publicity as they do. I am strongly against a CCP-induced removal of Goons, they are an integral part of the experience - a clear group of bad guys in a world which isn't just black and white. ----- Proud supporter of James 315's New Order of High Sec | Shareholder and Agent -----á https://dl.dropbox.com/u/75231886/Prencleeve.jpg | -áhttp://www.minerbumping.com/ |
Den Arius
Forestry Commision The Grizzly Bears
23
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Posted - 2012.11.03 21:21:00 -
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Natsett Amuinn wrote:SmilingVagrant wrote:You should make a thread telling us about how you read Das Kapital like 300 times and it how that makes you mature. I've lost count the number of times I read The Hobbit, I was 11 the first time, and I'm 36 now. What's that make me? Other then a geek.
A wizard. ----- Proud supporter of James 315's New Order of High Sec | Shareholder and Agent -----á https://dl.dropbox.com/u/75231886/Prencleeve.jpg | -áhttp://www.minerbumping.com/ |
Bolow Santosi
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
27
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Posted - 2012.11.03 21:22:00 -
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Den Arius wrote:
I understand that (the SA guys taught me that), but I my issue is - I don't think that is relevant on an internet spaceships forum. Blawrf didn't contact my parents, he contacted my grandmother - an elderly woman who gets stressed very easily.
EDIT: I did nothing to the adult. I didn't contact him. I didn't contact anybody related to him.
For all that you learned, you're still banging the same drum since you got your application rejected. Just because you shift your tone doesn't make it any less creepy or stalkerish.
Seek professional help. |
Den Arius
Forestry Commision The Grizzly Bears
23
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Posted - 2012.11.03 21:23:00 -
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Bolow Santosi wrote:Den Arius wrote:
I understand that (the SA guys taught me that), but I my issue is - I don't think that is relevant on an internet spaceships forum. Blawrf didn't contact my parents, he contacted my grandmother - an elderly woman who gets stressed very easily.
EDIT: I did nothing to the adult. I didn't contact him. I didn't contact anybody related to him.
For all that you learned, you're still banging the same drum since you got your application rejected. Just because you shift your tone doesn't make it any less creepy or stalkerish. Seek professional help.
What have I done though? Other than write posts on internet forums. ----- Proud supporter of James 315's New Order of High Sec | Shareholder and Agent -----á https://dl.dropbox.com/u/75231886/Prencleeve.jpg | -áhttp://www.minerbumping.com/ |
Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
2623
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Posted - 2012.11.03 21:24:00 -
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Den Arius wrote:An out-right collapse of the Goonswarm could be either a really good thing, or a really bad thing. a) The collapse of Goons results in the CFC disbanding - the space is controlled by actively-recruiting independants b) TEST Alliance or another large HBC/CFC alliance reclaims Goon territory Goons aren't the only offenders, we'd need a total removal of the cultural elitists - TEST and Goonswarm would need to be completely wiped off of the map. The goons are not usual griefers operating solely on in game mechanics. They have built entire scamming infrastructure to facilitate their need to grief and dissapoint. http://www.goonfleet.net and a variety of "alliance rental" applications are constantly being used and updated to grief - it would be hard to find another group of players to do what the goons are doing. On the other hand, TEST alliance have "borrowed" some of these techniques and are now including such infrastructures in their network.
"Scamming infrastructure"? I could build that website in a day, especially considering how ALL OF THE ART is recycled. TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |
fukier
Flatline.
92
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Posted - 2012.11.03 21:25:00 -
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Andski wrote:Den Arius wrote:Andski wrote:hey Prencleeve what are your thoughts on my good friend Blawrf McTaggart He's one of the only folks who was reasonable. I should be allowed to express myself freely on these forums without being threatened though - don't you agree? Yeah. Some people should be able to lead their alliances without having their parents' names posted on the forums, don't you think?
i try not to think it usually leads to trouble... At the end of the game both the pawn and the Queen go in the same box. |
Dar Manic
Republic University Minmatar Republic
32
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Posted - 2012.11.03 21:26:00 -
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Nothing changes. You continue to play EVE. I just don't understand null sec players.
Please note: Anytime I use the phrase PvP in a post, I'm talking about shooting/combat/killing things/blowing things up.-á Thank you. |
Red Teufel
Blackened Skies Nulli Secunda
102
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Posted - 2012.11.03 21:26:00 -
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as long as there are players/sov/peeps to shoot in eve. there will always be player driven content goons or no goons. |
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fukier
Flatline.
92
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Posted - 2012.11.03 21:26:00 -
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Andski wrote:Den Arius wrote:EDIT: Those name's were incorrect (only for trolling purposes) I believe. Or having their former coworkers harassed.
the meta game is a ***** eh? At the end of the game both the pawn and the Queen go in the same box. |
fukier
Flatline.
92
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Posted - 2012.11.03 21:27:00 -
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Natsett Amuinn wrote:SmilingVagrant wrote:You should make a thread telling us about how you read Das Kapital like 300 times and it how that makes you mature. I've lost count the number of times I read The Hobbit, I was 11 the first time, and I'm 36 now. What's that make me? Other then a geek.
my guess...
in need of more k/y and TP... At the end of the game both the pawn and the Queen go in the same box. |
fukier
Flatline.
92
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Posted - 2012.11.03 21:29:00 -
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Den Arius wrote:fukier wrote:i started to play in late 05 made this char in 06 so i have no clue what this game would be like without goons... but hell there is test now... so everything would be A OK... Love them or hate them, Goons have been a predominant part of EVE for a while now. They're one of the main reasons CCP gets as much publicity as they do. I am strongly against a CCP-induced removal of Goons, they are an integral part of the experience - a clear group of bad guys in a world which isn't just black and white.
TBH there is nothing wrong with the goons... its the game mechanics...
They use them to thier advantage... if you dont well... sucks to be you... At the end of the game both the pawn and the Queen go in the same box. |
Natsett Amuinn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
489
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Posted - 2012.11.03 21:29:00 -
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It's kind of interesting to me.
I don't post on our forums often, but I do read them. Whenever a goon scams someone, they usually post it on the forums. All this insinuation that we're responcible for all the scamming in EVE is strange considering how little it seems that goons actually do it.
I guess the hundred people I have blocked on my alt from Jita local are all goons?
Entire corporations being robbed were all goon alts doing it. I had no idea.
So basically, we do all the bad stuff in EVE? I only assume we're doing it in disquise to make our publicity attempts more credible? Do have this right? |
Den Arius
Forestry Commision The Grizzly Bears
23
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Posted - 2012.11.03 21:30:00 -
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Natsett Amuinn wrote:It's kind of interesting to me.
I don't post on our forums often, but I do read them. Whenever a goon scams someone, they usually post it on the forums. All this insinuation that we're responcible for all the scamming in EVE is strange considering how little it seems that goons actually do it.
I guess the hundred people I have blocked on my alt from Jita local are all goons?
Entire corporations being robbed were all goon alts doing it. I had no idea.
So basically, we do all the bad stuff in EVE? I only assume we're doing it in disquise to make our publicity attempts more credible? Do have this right?
Yes you are right, but you are the largest affiliated group of players who endorse scamming as a corporation past-time. I forgot the numbers, maybe TEST are these days, eh? ----- Proud supporter of James 315's New Order of High Sec | Shareholder and Agent -----á https://dl.dropbox.com/u/75231886/Prencleeve.jpg | -áhttp://www.minerbumping.com/ |
Natsett Amuinn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
489
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Posted - 2012.11.03 21:32:00 -
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Den Arius wrote:
Yes you are right, but you are the largest affiliated group of players who do scamming. I forgot the numbers, maybe TEST are these days, eh?
Oh, I wasn't aware of this.
Am I supposed to sign up for a class? I hope it wasn't required, because I never attended any Scamming for Goons seminars.
I guess it is possible for our thousands to be responcible for more scamming than any of the combined hundreds of thousands of people who aren't goons.
The probability seems sound on that. |
Den Arius
Forestry Commision The Grizzly Bears
23
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Posted - 2012.11.03 21:33:00 -
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Natsett Amuinn wrote:Den Arius wrote:
Yes you are right, but you are the largest affiliated group of players who do scamming. I forgot the numbers, maybe TEST are these days, eh?
Oh, I wasn't aware of this. Am I supposed to sign up for a class? I hope it wasn't required, because I never attended any Scamming for Goons seminars. I guess it is possible for our thousands to be responcible for more scamming than any of the combined hundreds of thousands of people who aren't goons.
1) Jackgate's Scamming Superzone
2) The scamming-subforum is the third top forum on your site
3) On your wiki, scamming is advised as a way to make fast moneys. ----- Proud supporter of James 315's New Order of High Sec | Shareholder and Agent -----á https://dl.dropbox.com/u/75231886/Prencleeve.jpg | -áhttp://www.minerbumping.com/ |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1697
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Posted - 2012.11.03 21:40:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:The whines about TEST would start the very same day. So I'd have to start over as a newbie and join TEST in my next EVE life?
Hm. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
1884
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Posted - 2012.11.03 21:41:00 -
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Tom, you cannot get rid of the goon. That would be impossible. You need only realize the truth.
There is no goon.
Mr Epeen There is no excuse beyond fatalistic self-indulgence and sheer laziness for doing nothing --á Iain Banks |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5455
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Posted - 2012.11.03 21:42:00 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:Tom, you cannot get rid of the goon. That would be impossible. You need only realize the truth. There is no goon. Mr Epeen
It's "GOON" and that is generally followed by angry noises hth ~*a-áproud belligerent undesirable*~
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