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Saede Riordan
Alexylva Paradox
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Posted - 2012.11.04 14:11:00 -
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So, Technetium, is obviously not a good mineral to place your production bottleneck around. Its only in the north, and its very concentrated in one area. But ignoring the potential changes to T2 production in the form of ring mining, there needs to be a better way to place the bottlenecks.
Well, what about an extremely common mineral, that could be found in at least one moon in an average system. This would mean that all space had some intrinsic value to it, beyond bragging/ratting rights. Giving a tangible benefit to everything you owned, and requiring its protection. Some systems would be more valuable then others, but it would be an effectively random distribution, some regions would be better, but not by very much.
Could this serve as a temporary stopgap measure until/if ring mining is introduced?
Torn from grace, gotta find your faith or the devils gonna claim your soul
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Ghazu
254
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Posted - 2012.11.05 03:31:00 -
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heh http://www.minerbumping.com/ |
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Air The Unthinkables
2133
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Posted - 2012.11.05 03:50:00 -
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old bottlenecks seemed to work well, or at least better. just rollback to that problem solved |
Mars Theran
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.11.05 04:03:00 -
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Having all of Nullsec provide a viable means of income and production would be a good thing I think. It would help Alliances to gain a foothold anywhere, and to profit and make something of that foothold, without first being required to take space from someone who holds the only space to provide a necessary component to manufacture goods.
Probably one of the biggest problems with Nullsec currently, though it might be believed to help escalate conflicts over certain regions of space. Perhaps that was true at one time, but I'm not certain it continues to be true since the advent of massive coalitions.
Granted, you can produce T1 anywhere, but then, you can produce T1 anywhere. zubzubzubzubzubzubzubzub |
usrevenge
Enlightened Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.11.05 05:55:00 -
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better moons provide better space, which means people can potentially fight for said space. there should be better space then others. CCP said they are changing some stuff to make it possible to not need tech as much though so relax. |
Shiroh Yatamii
Alexylva Paradox
77
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Posted - 2012.11.05 09:04:00 -
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I like this idea because it is analogous to ship manufacturing; you need a lot of tritanium to build a battleship, and while it can be found even in 1.0 it is the bottleneck to production. You simply need a ton of it to build anything.
So why not with T2 production? Why aren't the easiest-to-acquire resources the bottleneck to T2 production? It would make sense and allow start-up alliances to begin their nullsec operations virtually anywhere, rather than trying to tough it out in specific space as pets to well-established alliances.
Just my 0.02 ISK. |
HalfArse
Dark Matter Avionics
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Posted - 2012.11.05 12:50:00 -
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if a bottleneck resource becomes very common, everyone will extract and sell it. If everyone is flooding the market with it then its value will drop to the point where it is no longer worth while extracting. Also, if it is cheap and plentiful it is no longer a bottleneck.
With the resource being rendered useless as a simple source of income, people will be back to complaining about other bottlenecks that are less common like tech. |
Shiroh Yatamii
Alexylva Paradox
78
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Posted - 2012.11.05 17:13:00 -
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HalfArse wrote:if a bottleneck resource becomes very common, everyone will extract and sell it. If everyone is flooding the market with it then its value will drop to the point where it is no longer worth while extracting. Also, if it is cheap and plentiful it is no longer a bottleneck.
With the resource being rendered useless as a simple source of income, people will be back to complaining about other bottlenecks that are less common like tech.
It doesn't matter. Going back to my analogy, there are plenty of people of harvesting tritanium because it is so widespread and yet necessary for most production. If these changes were implemented, yes the price would be lower for the more common materials but it would still be valuable because of the sheer amount needed. |
Mortimer Civeri
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.11.05 18:01:00 -
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From what I understand having the botleneck around R64s was good because they were distributed across the entire galaxy. Some regions had few, while some regions had many. This provided a progression for alliances to fight over better space (ie. better/more money moons) Small starter alliances could make a play for a region that had few R64s, because the big boys didn't want to deal with such a poor region. Then as they grew and became more adept at 0.0 the small alliance could try conquering a better region, and so on untill they became a contender for the best regions.
Now it is divided into regions with Tech moons, or the poor scrub regions without Tech moons. There is no ladder of progresion for a small alliance to start out at. "I don't know which is worse, ...that everyone has his price, or that the price is always so low." Calvin
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