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Adaten TheGreat
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2012.11.07 04:59:00 -
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/06/amendment-64-passes-in-co_n_2079899.html
Well if you're 21 or over :)
Thoughts?
Im exited :D |
Adaten TheGreat
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2012.11.07 04:59:00 -
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Wow why is ********* blocked on the forum.... |
Adaten TheGreat
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2012.11.07 04:59:00 -
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weed.
fix this ccp |
Pyrrhus Max
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.11.07 05:14:00 -
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im pretty sure this means squat.
Im no expert on law but im pretty sure federal law would over rule this. But with them having that state law there, if the federal law were to change and make recreation ********* legal, that state law would be in place right away.
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Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
745
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Posted - 2012.11.07 05:30:00 -
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Adaten TheGreat wrote: Im exited :D
to the nearest joint? |
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
3450
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Posted - 2012.11.07 05:42:00 -
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Pyrrhus Max wrote:im pretty sure this means squat.
Im no expert on law but im pretty sure federal law would over rule this. But with them having that state law there, if the federal law were to change and make recreation ********* legal, that state law would be in place right away.
Yup, federal law trumps state law so DEA raids and federal charges are definitely in the future "Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff-á |
Kehro Urgus
Ab Obice Saevior
501
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Posted - 2012.11.07 05:55:00 -
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Murder! Insanity! Death! I don't always troll, but when I do I do it on EVE Online forums.
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rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
835
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Posted - 2012.11.07 05:56:00 -
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^ Ah but then the fun begins over that.
Watch the outing of judges or DEA agents that smoke pot, or have before.
I don't know though, I don't live in the states that legalized it. so its a bit hard to get overly excited, but its still really cool.
EDIT: also watch for the re-editing of history as well. That shakespeare smoked pot, and that general patreaus smoked pot while in Iraq as well. I'm not shitposting. |
Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
745
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Posted - 2012.11.07 06:05:00 -
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Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:Pyrrhus Max wrote:im pretty sure this means squat.
Im no expert on law but im pretty sure federal law would over rule this. But with them having that state law there, if the federal law were to change and make recreation ********* legal, that state law would be in place right away.
Yup, federal law trumps state law so DEA raids and federal charges are definitely in the future
Its not supposed to but that's how much it all has turned around since the creation of the declaration. Each state was built to govern itself and the federal government was supposed to maintain the rest on a general basis. So like this weed law or Arizona's immigrant law shouldn't be superseded by the FG.
And holy crap are there some hotties walking on stage right now.....
Anyways, little fact that a lot of people seem to forget is that we had a civil war that was based on states right versus federal government. You can say it was because of slavery but in truth that was a state right (not necessarily a good one so don't jump me about it). 2 sides disagreed, south wanted to secede (war actually started in the midwest), and the rest is in the books. |
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
3450
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Posted - 2012.11.07 06:05:00 -
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rodyas wrote:^ Ah but then the fun begins over that.
Watch the outing of judges or DEA agents that smoke pot, or have before.
I don't know though, I don't live in the states that legalized it. so its a bit hard to get overly excited, but its still really cool.
EDIT: also watch for the re-editing of history as well. That shakespeare smoked pot, and that general patreaus smoked pot while in Iraq as well.
A pop on a drug test in any federal or military job is an automatic out. 0 tolerance and they don't care why you popped only that you did.
As such you are a filthy hippie and don't deserve a job "Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff-á |
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Landrae
Sacred Templars Unclaimed.
386
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Posted - 2012.11.07 06:14:00 -
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Washington legalized ********* as well. Welcome to Eve Online |
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
3450
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Posted - 2012.11.07 06:21:00 -
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Landrae wrote:Washington legalized ********* as well.
Yay! I totally think I might actually move there after university (this was thought of before finding this out, turns out everyone in Alabama is a ******* ****** ((that rhymes with ucking etard)) )
Turns out I probably won't go back to military service now that the guy I don't like got re-elected, though I do have 3 citizenships so I can go to 2 other militaries if I choose... one's canada though so really just 1 "Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff-á |
Jonah Gravenstein
Holistic Materials Research Council
2914
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Posted - 2012.11.07 07:41:00 -
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Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:Landrae wrote:Washington legalized ********* as well. Yay! I totally think I might actually move there after university (this was thought of before finding this out, turns out everyone in Alabama is a ******* ****** ((that rhymes with ucking etard)) ) Turns out I probably won't go back to military service now that the guy I don't like got re-elected, though I do have 3 citizenships so I can go to 2 other militaries if I choose... one's canada though so really just 1
You have triple nationality? damn On a related note a friend of mine with dual US/UK nationality had to rescind her UK citizenship to get security clearance for her current post in the US military, she can't disclose why, or what she does for a job. Blessed are the meek, for they shall be slaughtered -á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á---CCP can't patch stupid---
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Saede Riordan
Alexylva Paradox
2219
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Posted - 2012.11.07 07:43:00 -
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my inner stoner is doing cartwheels and I don't even live in those states.
Torn from grace, gotta find your faith or the devils gonna claim your soul
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rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
836
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Posted - 2012.11.07 07:54:00 -
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Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:rodyas wrote:^ Ah but then the fun begins over that.
Watch the outing of judges or DEA agents that smoke pot, or have before.
I don't know though, I don't live in the states that legalized it. so its a bit hard to get overly excited, but its still really cool.
EDIT: also watch for the re-editing of history as well. That shakespeare smoked pot, and that general patreaus smoked pot while in Iraq as well. A pop on a drug test in any federal or military job is an automatic out. 0 tolerance and they don't care why you popped only that you did. As such you are a filthy hippie and don't deserve a job
:( , people non 4 star general and big always make the military sound boring. I miss the days, when people in the military were happy to be there, and were enjoyable to be around.
I was a hippy, but the cost for being one in america or perhaps kansas is too high.
Freedom only costs a buck o' five or something but being a hippy costs like $50 dollars or some ****.
Also we should all smile since Mcrystal was fired from the military, for being as anal as you. He didn't even dream of smoking pot and did everything opposite a hippy would do.
Actually you do have a point. Petreaus was a pretty cool guy and non anal, so he had to leave the military over it. At least the CIA picked up though. I do like the current Chairman though, but some people's attitudes make me happy that lulzsec hacks some defense department contractors. I'm not shitposting. |
Alice Saki
17443
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Posted - 2012.11.07 09:10:00 -
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...Meh Legal or not... Won't Stop me ^_^ http://i.imgur.com/vXey1.png |
Webvan
State War Academy Caldari State
124
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Posted - 2012.11.07 09:18:00 -
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**** ********* |
Sidus Isaacs
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.11.07 09:41:00 -
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About time, the law was stupid to begin with. Why should anyone tell us what we can or cannot do to our own body? Now jut to hope for a domino effect to make my country follow suit. |
Pr1ncess Alia
Perkone Caldari State
245
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Posted - 2012.11.08 09:46:00 -
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Alice Saki wrote:...Meh Legal or not... Won't Stop me ^_^
GÇ£One has not only a legal but a moral responsibility to obey just laws. Conversely one has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust lawsGÇ¥ -MLK |
Onyx Nyx
Euphoria Released Verge of Collapse
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Posted - 2012.11.08 12:26:00 -
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Thanks South Park! I kill kittens, and puppies and bunnies. I maim toddlers and teens and then more. |
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stoicfaux
1751
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Posted - 2012.11.08 14:50:00 -
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Pr1ncess Alia wrote:Alice Saki wrote:...Meh Legal or not... Won't Stop me ^_^ GÇ£One has not only a legal but a moral responsibility to obey just laws. Conversely one has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust lawsGÇ¥ -MLK Meh, sounds great in principle, but tends to break down when you try to pin people down a singular definition of "just".
You can tell me what is and isn't Truth when you pry the tinfoil from my cold, lifeless head. Feature Request: -áDamnation Ship Codpiece-áfor the NeX store.
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stoicfaux
1751
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Posted - 2012.11.08 14:56:00 -
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Micheal Dietrich wrote: Its not supposed to but that's how much it all has turned around since the creation of the declaration. Each state was built to govern itself and the federal government was supposed to maintain the rest on a general basis. So like this weed law or Arizona's immigrant law shouldn't be superseded by the FG.
We tried that with the Articles of Confederation. It was quickly replaced with a Constitution granting strong Federal power.
Quote: Anyways, little fact that a lot of people seem to forget is that we had a civil war that was based on states right versus federal government. You can say it was because of slavery but in truth that was a state right (not necessarily a good one so don't jump me about it). 2 sides disagreed, south wanted to secede (war actually started in the midwest), and the rest is in the books.
No. Google "us civil war declarations of secession". It was about slavery. State's rights is just an attempt to whitewash the politics and social values behind the civil war. You can tell me what is and isn't Truth when you pry the tinfoil from my cold, lifeless head. Feature Request: -áDamnation Ship Codpiece-áfor the NeX store.
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Elvis Fett
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
102
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Posted - 2012.11.08 15:23:00 -
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Not just Colorado but Washington State has legalized recreational cannabis use. Many cities across the country have legalized pot this election on a city-wide basis, including 3 in Michigan (Detroit, MI being the biggest of the cities) Massachusetts and Connecticut legalized medical cannabis, bringing the total number of medical states up to 18 or 19. So it may be true that it is scheduled 1 drug on the federal level (no medicinal value), but how long is the fed gov't really going to stand against half the union? The anti-MMJ stance is quickly becoming a very unpopular one, even by non-smokers. Each year we spend over 7billion dollars fighting marihuana and incarcerating users. It is very hard to justify spending that kind of money each year as our country goes broke. Especially not on marihuana, a drug that most of the population has at least tried and knows it not the scary life destroying drug refer madness would have you believe. |
Metal Icarus
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
353
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Posted - 2012.11.08 16:18:00 -
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Well, I find the best way to support colorado in this would be to create weed tourism. Boom their economy and show the consituents the benefits of weed.
1 week in Colorado would suffice for me!
It is near the middle of the country, so cheap tickets for travel! |
Iosue
Black Sky Hipsters
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Posted - 2012.11.08 16:26:00 -
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still a big win for pro pot in those states. even if the feds continue to oppose, the vast majority of users will be free from criminal prosecution. the feds will reserve their time and effort on big busts of large operators. but john doe will no longer have to worry about city, county or state police barging in and confiscating or arresting them for casual use. about damn time. hope there's more where this came from. too much time and money is wasted on preventing something that many want. |
Natsett Amuinn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
501
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Posted - 2012.11.08 17:45:00 -
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Micheal Dietrich wrote: Its not supposed to but that's how much it all has turned around since the creation of the declaration.
Each state was built to govern itself and the federal government was supposed to maintain the rest on a general basis. So like this weed law or Arizona's immigrant law shouldn't be superseded by the FG.
And holy crap are there some hotties walking on stage right now.....
Anyways, little fact that a lot of people seem to forget is that we had a civil war that was based on states right versus federal government. You can say it was because of slavery but in truth that was a state right (not necessarily a good one so don't jump me about it). 2 sides disagreed, south wanted to secede (war actually started in the midwest), and the rest is in the books.
It's unfortunately not that simple.
State law superceids federal law when it allows for more freedoms to the individual within the state than the federal law does. I personally think that any state law that allows you to posses something that a federal law doesn't allow you to would be allowing the individual more freedom.
However, sinse federal law forbids the possesion -not sure about use- of ********* it overrides any state laws. The federal government listing it as a schedule 1 drug isn't helping. Anyone that thinks that pot is the same as ****** (sounds like hair oh win) is a ******* moron.
The DEA can't police every state though, it's why California is the one that gets harrassed by the DEA. Most other states that have legalized for medicinal use don't really get bothered by the DEA. Colorado and Washington are probably not going to have to much trouble.
The nice thing is that there are officals in those states standing up and openly saying that it would be a mistake for the federal government to get in the way. "The will of the people" should always trump federal law, and that's pretty much what these two states are trying to convey to our incompetent and moronic federal government.
The federal government does not govern the will of the people, the will of the people governs the federal government. Our government seems to have forgetten this tid-bit recently. |
Casirio
DEEP-SPACE CO-OP LTD Exhale.
122
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Posted - 2012.11.08 17:50:00 -
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gives a whole new meaning to the "Denver Nuggets" |
Bane Necran
Appono Astos
686
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Posted - 2012.11.08 19:58:00 -
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What people are forgetting is you don't often see federal agents out on patrol, looking for a guy smoking a joint. As long as the local police are looking the other way you should be fine, providing you don't do something stupid to get the attention of the federales, like blab about having pounds of weed online. "It's no use crying over spilt milk, because all the forces of the universe were bent on spilling it." ~William Maugham |
Casirio
DEEP-SPACE CO-OP LTD Exhale.
122
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Posted - 2012.11.08 21:22:00 -
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Bane Necran wrote:What people are forgetting is you don't often see federal agents out on patrol, looking for a guy smoking a joint. As long as the local police are looking the other way you should be fine, providing you don't do something stupid to get the attention of the federales, like blab about having pounds of weed online.
yeah for the small time recreational/medicinal user there's not much to worry about i would think |
Natsett Amuinn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
501
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Posted - 2012.11.09 13:55:00 -
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Bane Necran wrote:What people are forgetting is you don't often see federal agents out on patrol, looking for a guy smoking a joint. As long as the local police are looking the other way you should be fine, providing you don't do something stupid to get the attention of the federales, like blab about having pounds of weed online. The problem is that they've been using local law enforcement in places like CA, but that tended to have more to do with the local government working with the DEA.
The politician that supported the bill is replaced by a guy that doesn't support it and the next thing you know he's allowing the local police to work with the DEA to arrest the guys selling the pot; which makes things a pain in the ass for the guy smoking it. Or they do something silly like make it illegal to open a dispencory within 200 feet of any residential areas, which makes it almost impossible to open shop when every commercial lot tends to sit right next to a residential one; another favorite pasttime of some conservative politicians in CA. |
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