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Count of MonteCylon
MonteCylon Money Acquisition and Demolition Ltd.
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Posted - 2012.11.08 07:41:00 -
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So I know that if someone is an outlaw, the sentry guns won't defend them. But what I'm wondering is, if you attack an outlaw by a sentry gun and they start to fight back, will the sentry gun start attacking them? |
Kahega Amielden
Rifterlings Damu'Khonde
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Posted - 2012.11.08 07:43:00 -
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Count of MonteCylon wrote:So I know that if someone is an outlaw, the sentry guns won't defend them. But what I'm wondering is, if you attack an outlaw by a sentry gun and they start to fight back, will the sentry gun start attacking them?
Nope. Only if they aggress on a neutral target. |
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Late Night Alliance
1087
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Posted - 2012.11.08 07:52:00 -
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No. Pilots who have -5.0 security status can be aggressed anytime by anyone without any penalties. However, once aggressed the outlaw pilot is allowed to attack back in self defense without fear of going "GCC" (see: "going criminal").
Generally speaking... outlaw pilots WANT someone to aggro them so they don't have to take gate guns in a fight... especially if they are in smaller ships like cruisers and frigates. Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective. |
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings Damu'Khonde
1996
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Posted - 2012.11.08 17:25:00 -
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ShahFluffers wrote:No. Pilots who have -5.0 security status can be aggressed anytime by anyone without any penalties. However, once aggressed the outlaw pilot is allowed to attack back in self defense without fear of going "GCC" (see: "going criminal").
Generally speaking... outlaw pilots WANT someone to aggro them so they don't have to take gate guns in a fight... especially if they are in smaller ships like cruisers and frigates. This. Oddly enough, being an outlaw improves lowsec in some ways.
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Vincent R'lyeh
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
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Posted - 2012.11.08 19:14:00 -
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So please remember if the flashy red guy orbiting the gate in a frigate locks you up he is never going to fire first but would really really like it if you engage in honorable space battul with him
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Solomar Espersei
Quality Assurance
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Posted - 2012.11.08 19:28:00 -
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Vincent R'lyeh wrote:So please remember if the flashy red guy orbiting the gate in a frigate locks you up he is never going to fire first but would really really like it if you engage in honorable space battul with him
Actually, that may not be the case in a few weeks. It appears that the Devs are trying to find a way that tackling frigs won't get LMFAOINSTAPWND by the gate guns. IIRC, the idea is to have an increasing amount of DPS so that tackling frigs can be more useful in low sec gate camps.
For now though, you're right, but this could change in December. Quality Assurance RECRUITING OPEN |
Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
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Posted - 2012.11.08 20:24:00 -
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Solomar Espersei wrote:Vincent R'lyeh wrote:So please remember if the flashy red guy orbiting the gate in a frigate locks you up he is never going to fire first but would really really like it if you engage in honorable space battul with him Actually, that may not be the case in a few weeks. It appears that the Devs are trying to find a way that tackling frigs won't get LMFAOINSTAPWND by the gate guns. IIRC, the idea is to have an increasing amount of DPS so that tackling frigs can be more useful in low sec gate camps. For now though, you're right, but this could change in December.
You assuming frigates are only for tackle not main battul ships :) I am not my skills but... http://eveboard.com/pilot/Schmata_Bastanold |
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Late Night Alliance
1091
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Posted - 2012.11.08 20:29:00 -
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Solomar Espersei wrote:Vincent R'lyeh wrote:So please remember if the flashy red guy orbiting the gate in a frigate locks you up he is never going to fire first but would really really like it if you engage in honorable space battul with him Actually, that may not be the case in a few weeks. It appears that the Devs are trying to find a way that tackling frigs won't get LMFAOINSTAPWND by the gate guns. IIRC, the idea is to have an increasing amount of DPS so that tackling frigs can be more useful in low sec gate camps. For now though, you're right, but this could change in December. If you are referring to that idea where the sentry guns would start with minimal damage and eventually up their DPS to kill a triaged carrier...
I believe the whole thing got scrapped after a large outcry from pirates and general low-sec denizens. Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective. |
Solomar Espersei
Quality Assurance
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Posted - 2012.11.08 20:38:00 -
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Did it get scrapped entirely?
If so, then sorry for the confusion.
@ Schmata,
No disrespect meant toward the capability of frigs as excellent PVP hulls. It's just that currently they can't really go GCC on a gate or at station. Well, not without eating some srs DPS from those CONCORD Bar Stewards. Quality Assurance RECRUITING OPEN |
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