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Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings Damu'Khonde
1996
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Posted - 2012.11.08 15:10:00 -
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Periodically, there are some super brave residents of empire space who decide they've had enough of being comedic relief for bored 0.0 alliances, and they decide to start yelling about how they will smack down whoever has wronged them (usually Goonswarm). There's a lot of noise about it, but then it dies out as if nothing happened.
Why? Did they make good on these threats, but fail horribly? Was there simply not enough interest / not enough people willing to shoot stuff? Did they just have a cup of tea and calm down?
Something like this actually happening and being a "big thing" would be great. Why hasn't it happened yet? Rifterlings - small gang frigate PvP - low/nullsec operations, newbie-friendly, free ship program; Join today! www.rifterlings.com
Accidentally The Whole Frigate (blog) - Learning how to pew pew, one loss at a time - www.thewholefrigate.com |
Inquisitor Kitchner
Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes
372
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Posted - 2012.11.08 15:14:00 -
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No "If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli |
KrakizBad
Eve Defence Force Fatal Ascension
1066
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Posted - 2012.11.08 15:17:00 -
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'I'm going to take down Goonswarm' usually means 'I'm gonna whine at CCP to nerf Goonswarm' or 'I'm Prencleeve Grothsmore's 500th alt.'
The few who actually kamikaze null usually die to the bored EC crew. www.minerbumping.com - because your tears are delicious |
Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
135
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Posted - 2012.11.08 15:18:00 -
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Well, it seems like main thing killing initiatives in hisec is basically "everybody for himself" way of thinking among residents. Let's see: is there any kind of activity that really requires team work in hisec? Even incursion fleets are made from different corps members. You create your 1man corp to avoid taxes and you are good to go your merry ways.
So if you don't need to organize for normal gameplay how can one expect any kind of union created for making raid on null territory and taking revenge for whatever was done to you. Yeah, it was done to you only, others are not affected. Until they will get ganked but then it won't be your problem. So why would you feel compelled to fight somebody else's war? I am not my skills but... http://eveboard.com/pilot/Schmata_Bastanold |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
5064
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Posted - 2012.11.08 15:27:00 -
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Schmata Bastanold wrote:Well, it seems like main thing killing initiatives in hisec is basically "everybody for himself" way of thinking among residents. Let's see: is there any kind of activity that really requires team work in hisec? Even incursion fleets are made from different corps members. You create your 1man corp to avoid taxes and you are good to go your merry ways.
So if you don't need to organize for normal gameplay how can one expect any kind of union created for making raid on null territory and taking revenge for whatever was done to you. Yeah, it was done to you only, others are not affected. Until they will get ganked but then it won't be your problem. So why would you feel compelled to fight somebody else's war?
A nice illustration of the utility of EVE as an extended social experiment MatrixSkye Mk2: "Remember: You consent to unconsensual PVP the moment you press the "Undock" button." |
Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
135
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Posted - 2012.11.08 15:32:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:A nice illustration of the utility of EVE as an extended social experiment
So... am I rite or am I rite? :)
I am not my skills but... http://eveboard.com/pilot/Schmata_Bastanold |
Sentamon
246
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Posted - 2012.11.08 15:57:00 -
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Most Highsecers just join up with a Nullsec alliance and then QQ about boredom and Highsec being overpowered. ~ Professional Forum Alt -á~ |
Karrl Tian
Yarrbusters
34
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Posted - 2012.11.08 16:02:00 -
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Once upon a time I planned to unleash my indignant wrath on the 0.0 population---then I joined a 0.0 corp, lived there for a while, saw how bad they had it, and changed my mind. Now I send them a sympathy PLEX every month with my leftover ISK from Highsec PvEing. |
Natasha Liao
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
38
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Posted - 2012.11.08 16:03:00 -
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I kinda remember some folks talking about forming/building up a corp for that a little while after Monoclegate. Guess it didn't fly. Otherwise people probably just make spy Alts and try to 'take down the man' that way. As most big corps/alliances have this unrealistic fear of spys - must be working. |
Dar Manic
Republic University Minmatar Republic
41
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Posted - 2012.11.08 16:12:00 -
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Sentamon wrote:Most Highsecers just join up with a Nullsec alliance and then QQ about boredom and Highsec being overpowered.
lol... got my popcorn ready for the flames coming!!
OP is just trolling.
1/10 I just don't understand null sec players.
Please note: Anytime I use the phrase PvP in a post, I'm talking about shooting/combat/killing things/blowing things up.-á Thank you. |
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Ocih
Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums
268
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Posted - 2012.11.08 16:17:00 -
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Natasha Liao wrote:I kinda remember some folks talking about forming/building up a corp for that a little while after Monoclegate. Guess it didn't fly. Otherwise people probably just make spy Alts and try to 'take down the man' that way. As most big corps/alliances have this unrealistic fear of spys - must be working.
Very much so.
Joe in High Sec won't freight through Niarja because he heard big nasty gewns might blow him up but Alliance Joe in Null sec won't recruit new members because they heard one might disband them.
They both fear the unknown variable. |
La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
240
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Posted - 2012.11.08 16:37:00 -
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no npc alts aren't people |
Silk daShocka
Greasy Hair Club
92
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Posted - 2012.11.08 16:39:00 -
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Alright boys, mount your 200mm autocannons on your mackinaws, it's time to get even. |
TheGunslinger42
Bite Me inc
499
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Posted - 2012.11.08 16:46:00 -
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By definition, no. They wouldn't be the carebear baddies they are if they fought. |
TheBreadMuncher
Boxxed Up Industries EPIC Alliance
385
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Posted - 2012.11.08 16:54:00 -
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Schmata Bastanold wrote: So... am I rite or am I rite? :)
1) Right* 2) Nope. "We will create the introduction thread if that is requested by the community. Also, we will have an ISD Seminar about the CCL team in the coming weeks in which you can ask your questions about the CCL team and provide some constructive feedback to us." - Countless pages of locked threads and numerous permabanned accounts later, change is coming. |
Ptraci
3 R Corporation The Irukandji
694
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Posted - 2012.11.08 16:57:00 -
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The most that ever happens is they hire someone to war-dec the nullsec corp, which means we have to switch to our neutral freighter/jump freighter alts. It's a minor inconvenience at best. Care-bears actually leaving concordspace and venturing out to null, SBU'ing systems and reffing POSes? Heheh. Hehehehehe. Hahahahahahahaha. |
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings Damu'Khonde
1996
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Posted - 2012.11.08 17:06:00 -
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Dar Manic wrote:OP is just trolling. You wound me.
The reason I asked is I am genuinely wondering why nobody organized things. I mean, it's obvious that hiseccers won't "bring down" Goonswarm in a genuine way (lost sov, POSes, etc). However, cathartic "grab a ship, go shoot a nullseccer" roams/blobs should, I feel, have already happened.
Is it for lack of interest from anyone capable of leading such a thing? Lack of interest from the public? Fear of loss/PvP from the public? Ungenuine rage at nullseccers which gets substituted by "meh"?
Schmata brought up a good point about the "soloing" nature of hisec. Could this be it?
My motives behind asking all this is to find out whether "Hey, Rens! X up in local and get in a frigate to go blow up pirates" fleets have any potential of working, and whether they have more potential if done spontaneously or pre-announced. Rifterlings - small gang frigate PvP - low/nullsec operations, newbie-friendly, free ship program; Join today! www.rifterlings.com
Accidentally The Whole Frigate (blog) - Learning how to pew pew, one loss at a time - www.thewholefrigate.com |
Dervinus
SniggWaffe
97
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Posted - 2012.11.08 17:07:00 -
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I think you all are forgetting the 99% o7 toonies |
Wivabel
Exanimo Inc Unclaimed.
43
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Posted - 2012.11.08 17:14:00 -
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The real question is how much of high sec is actually made up of individual players rather than null pilot alts.
Wivabel To be a part of future EVE intrigue check us out. Sov in the south. Small gang pew is what we do when we are-ánot defending our space.-á
Join "Exan-áRecruitment"-áin game |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
420
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Posted - 2012.11.08 17:21:00 -
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Bad goon alt troll. Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
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Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings Damu'Khonde
1996
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Posted - 2012.11.08 17:27:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Bad goon alt troll.
Should I have phrased it as a rant on how useless and bad at PvP everyone is?
This isn't a troll. Rifterlings - small gang frigate PvP - low/nullsec operations, newbie-friendly, free ship program; Join today! www.rifterlings.com
Accidentally The Whole Frigate (blog) - Learning how to pew pew, one loss at a time - www.thewholefrigate.com |
Anya Solette
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.11.08 17:30:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Bad goon alt troll.
not a goon alt |
No More Heroes
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1572
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Posted - 2012.11.08 17:31:00 -
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A few months ago there was some dude who posted about how high sec was going to rise up and show goons whats what and for everyone to meet up for the sacking of VFK on such and such date.
I was mildly surprised a couple weeks later and totally amused to see the guy reported in intel channels as approaching VFK with a small gang (20 or so).
They were slaughtered to the last man one jump from VFK by a roaming ncdot gang. primary target is broadcasted, put all drones on the warp disruption battery. If you are in a frigate you should be at the gate, who blew up? |
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings Damu'Khonde
1996
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Posted - 2012.11.08 17:37:00 -
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Anya Solette wrote:Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Bad goon alt troll. not a goon alt You're a goon alt. Wait, what? Rifterlings - small gang frigate PvP - low/nullsec operations, newbie-friendly, free ship program; Join today! www.rifterlings.com
Accidentally The Whole Frigate (blog) - Learning how to pew pew, one loss at a time - www.thewholefrigate.com |
Nex apparatu5
Wormhole Exploration Crew R.E.P.O.
377
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Posted - 2012.11.08 17:41:00 -
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Test once decided to headshot Chribba's station, figuring if there was one way to get carebears to fight, it would be in defense of chribba.
Guess how many people from hisec showed up? |
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Air The Unthinkables
2150
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Posted - 2012.11.08 17:49:00 -
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no never when inferno was released however, we were surprised to learn that they thought the old wardec system was a thorn in the side to 0.0 residents, which was a great source of amusement |
Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
136
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Posted - 2012.11.08 17:54:00 -
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TheBreadMuncher wrote:Schmata Bastanold wrote: So... am I rite or am I rite? :)
1) Right*
I just facepalmed a little in my mouth
TheBreadMuncher wrote:2) Nope.
That's very solid argument for discussion. Almost as solid as belief in hiseccers risking their shinies to avenge you.
I am not my skills but... http://eveboard.com/pilot/Schmata_Bastanold |
Rellik B00n
Lethal Death Squad Dec Shield
169
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Posted - 2012.11.08 17:59:00 -
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As I consider my answer from my perch outside 4-4, where all my equipment needs are 0 jumps away, my enemies are 0 jumps away I am forced to answer..
..no.. qfmjt-1 |
Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
29
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Posted - 2012.11.08 20:52:00 -
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Petrus Blackshell wrote:Dar Manic wrote:OP is just trolling. You wound me. The reason I asked is I am genuinely wondering why nobody organized things. I mean, it's obvious that hiseccers won't "bring down" Goonswarm in a genuine way (lost sov, POSes, etc). However, cathartic "grab a ship, go shoot a nullseccer" roams/blobs should, I feel, have already happened. Is it for lack of interest from anyone capable of leading such a thing? Lack of interest from the public? Fear of loss/PvP from the public? Ungenuine rage at nullseccers which gets substituted by "meh"? Schmata brought up a good point about the "soloing" nature of hisec. Could this be it? My motives behind asking all this is to find out whether "Hey, Rens! X up in local and get in a frigate to go blow up pirates" fleets have any potential of working, and whether they have more potential if done spontaneously or pre-announced. Lack of experienced FCs, lack of proper intel, time required to actually get something done.
Just have to look at my own available playtime. Usually it takes at least 2+ hours to form up for a lowsec roam from highsec. And this would be for a scheduled event. I guess I'm currently in game for about 1-2 hours on 2-4 days a week. You do not get far with this.
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Nicolo da'Vicenza
Air The Unthinkables
2151
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Posted - 2012.11.08 20:57:00 -
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on the other hand a group of hiseccers did take over period basis recently so there's hope for everyone |
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