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Ager Agemo
Saturn Reaper
120
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Posted - 2012.11.08 20:35:00 -
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can someone please explain me what are this mechanics glitch i keep reading aroudn about war trapping people? what exactly is it, how do it works? is it draining isk from the server? |
Aziesta
Sathainn Braithrean Cartel Apocalypse Now.
97
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Posted - 2012.11.08 20:46:00 -
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Ager Agemo wrote:can someone please explain me what are this mechanics glitch i keep reading aroudn about war trapping people? Sure. |
Rellik B00n
Lethal Death Squad Dec Shield
169
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Posted - 2012.11.08 20:51:00 -
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its where players that want a war get a war.
pretty smple really. qfmjt-1 |
Tah'ris Khlador
Space Ghosts. Break-A-Wish Foundation
237
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Posted - 2012.11.08 20:58:00 -
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Ager Agemo wrote:is it draining isk from the server?
It is actually diminishing the amount of Bits left on the server. When we run out of bits, the bytes will start to break down and the fabric of eve will unravel. We can already see this with Jove space (thus why you can't get there). It is only a matter of time before EVE is a quantum entanglement issue. |
MadMuppet
Three Fish In A Box
598
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Posted - 2012.11.08 21:07:00 -
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Tah'ris Khlador wrote:Ager Agemo wrote:is it draining isk from the server? It is actually diminishing the amount of Bits left on the server. When we run out of bits, the bytes will start to break down and the fabric of eve will unravel. We can already see this with Jove space (thus why you can't get there). It is only a matter of time before EVE is a quantum entanglement issue.
One way CCP tried to plug the bits hole was to block all the station doors with binary load-lifters and then welded them in place with a Soundwave Hellfire Arc Welder Mk 2. November 6th, 2012 "With this in mind, it becomes quite obvious to focus on training the Destroyers and Battlecruisers skills before the change to get the maximum return effect. We highly recommend you start doing so now." --á CCP Ytterbium from:-áhttp://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=73530 |
Karn Dulake
Sad Flutes
981
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Posted - 2012.11.08 21:52:00 -
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Its something that going to get the coding changed real quick or highsec will finally be totally 100% safesec- suicide ganking I dont normally troll, but when i do i do it on General Discussion. |
Kara Books
Deal with IT.
233
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Posted - 2012.11.09 00:50:00 -
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The devs aren't dumb and I have a strong sense that they seem to really care about the future of this game (no action needed) at most a little tweaking. |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
423
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Posted - 2012.11.09 01:05:00 -
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This is quickly becoming 'Eve is dying' thread. Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Tah'ris Khlador
Space Ghosts. Break-A-Wish Foundation
238
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Posted - 2012.11.09 05:14:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:This is quickly becoming 'Eve is dying' thread.
No, no! Unraveling. There is a difference! |
MinefieldS
1 Sick Duck Standss on something
165
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Posted - 2012.11.09 05:37:00 -
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Ager Agemo wrote:can someone please explain me what are this mechanics glitch i keep reading aroudn about war trapping people? what exactly is it, how do it works? is it draining isk from the server?
This glitch was predicted 2500 years ago by Confucius - "The hardest thing of all is to find a dec-shielder in a dark room, especially if there is no dec-shielder." |
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Alara IonStorm
3417
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Posted - 2012.11.09 06:08:00 -
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Since I think in analogies please tell me if I understand this.
CCP has made the new Dec system work like virtual herpes. Once you Dec a Corp with the herpes you can not break up with your own Alliance to **** another Alliance or if you are single start a new relationship with an Alliance, because you have the War Herpes.
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Mr Pragmatic
54
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Posted - 2012.11.09 07:10:00 -
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Perma-wardec me please. Maybe this world is another planet's hell. -Aldous Huxley
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5496
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Posted - 2012.11.09 07:19:00 -
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Given the "working as intended" responses from CCP, it's clear that they want to ensure that hisec is free of PvP. ~*a-áproud belligerent undesirable*~
TheMittani.com |
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor Cosmic Consortium
2036
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Posted - 2012.11.09 08:22:00 -
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Andski wrote:Given the "working as intended" responses from CCP, it's clear that they want to ensure that hisec is free of PvP.
If you use the wardec system, simply be prepared to fight. If you're not expecting to fight someone, don't start a war.
Day 0 advice for new players: Day 0 Advice for New Players |
Oopsy Bear
Massively Masochistic Machos
2
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Posted - 2012.11.09 08:23:00 -
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Andski wrote:Given the "working as intended" responses from CCP, it's clear that they want to ensure that hisec is free of PvP.
To be fair, the only PvP I've seen in hi-sec was one of the following:
- suicide ganks on haulers
- suicide ganks on miners
- three man alt corps dec'ing three man alt corps to steal their POS
- fleets camping jita waiting for the "fair fight" to emerge
- people who baited others for a kill right taking out the guys mission ship
- bored high sec corps picking on "carebears" who coincidentally are no match for the dec'ing corp
So in other words, hi-sec is just as free from PvP as it has always been. |
Ptraci
3 R Corporation The Irukandji
695
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Posted - 2012.11.09 08:27:00 -
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Karn Dulake wrote:Its something that going to get the coding changed real quick or highsec will finally be totally 100% safesec- suicide ganking
Nope, there's always the NPC corps. |
Solstice Project
Carebear Cadaver Productions
2043
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Posted - 2012.11.09 10:03:00 -
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Depends on who you ask.
DecShield is awesome, because it's an easy way to get thousands of players to shoot at.
The ones whining about it are the ones one can shoot at ............. Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |
Solstice Project
Carebear Cadaver Productions
2043
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Posted - 2012.11.09 10:04:00 -
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Oopsy Bear wrote:Andski wrote:Given the "working as intended" responses from CCP, it's clear that they want to ensure that hisec is free of PvP. To be fair, the only PvP I've seen in hi-sec was one of the following:
- suicide ganks on haulers
- suicide ganks on miners
- three man alt corps dec'ing three man alt corps to steal their POS
- fleets camping jita waiting for the "fair fight" to emerge
- people who baited others for a kill right taking out the guys mission ship
- bored high sec corps picking on "carebears" who coincidentally are no match for the dec'ing corp
So in other words, hi-sec is just as free from PvP as it has always been. Congratulations for not understanding what the abbreviation PvP means. Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |
Rellik B00n
Lethal Death Squad Dec Shield
169
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Posted - 2012.11.09 11:34:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:Depends on who you ask.
DecShield is awesome, because it's an easy way to get thousands of players to shoot at.
The ones whining about it are the ones one can shoot at .............
qfmjt-1 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5497
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Posted - 2012.11.09 12:46:00 -
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Mara Rinn wrote:If you use the wardec system, simply be prepared to fight. If you're not expecting to fight someone, don't start a war.
Fighting implies getting actual fights with other players, not fighting poorly designed game mechanics intended to discourage unconsensual wardecs as much as possible. "hurr u shuld be rdy 2 fite!!!" is a stupid argument because, hey, we might as well ask CCP to give everybody in every wardec aggressor alliance a permanent suspect flag for no good reason, just to add *~cOnSeQuEnCeS~* even though the goal is to ensure that no carebear can possibly be harmed by a big bad ganker (((( ~*a-áproud belligerent undesirable*~
TheMittani.com |
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5497
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Posted - 2012.11.09 12:48:00 -
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what i'm saying is that pretending that this stupid wardec system or that any of the fluff being added in Retribution doing anything to encourage PvP is a hilarious fallacy, the end goal is to make hisec a risk-free themepark because CCP is dead-set on attracting every type of player possible
shame that they'll be holding the welcome sign at the door waiting for the stampede of new subs which simply won't come ~*a-áproud belligerent undesirable*~
TheMittani.com |
Arduemont
Rotten Legion Ops
620
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Posted - 2012.11.09 12:53:00 -
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Andski wrote:what i'm saying is that pretending that this stupid wardec system or that any of the fluff being added in Retribution doing anything to encourage PvP is a hilarious fallacy, the end goal is to make hisec a risk-free themepark because CCP is dead-set on attracting every type of player possible
shame that they'll be holding the welcome sign at the door waiting for the stampede of new subs which simply won't come
I don't even know where to begin. I think I'll just tell you your stupid and be done with it.
Your stupid. "In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." |
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ISD Suvetar
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
907
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Posted - 2012.11.09 12:58:00 -
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Hi,
I've removed a couple of posts from this thread; I know this is a passionate subject, but please leave the personal attacks out of it.
Thanks and fly safe! ISD Suvetar,-áCaptain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department We are hiring! |
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Ager Agemo
Saturn Reaper
120
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Posted - 2012.11.09 13:28:00 -
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ISD Suvetar wrote:Hi,
I've removed a couple of posts from this thread; I know this is a passionate subject, but please leave the personal attacks out of it.
Thanks and fly safe! you should let the people be passionate |
Anslo
BHEI Galactic Construction The Unforgiven Alliance
532
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Posted - 2012.11.09 13:40:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:Depends on who you ask.
DecShield is awesome, because it's an easy way to get thousands of players to shoot at.
The ones whining about it are the ones one can shoot at .............
Oh gimme a break that's B.S. and you know it.
Corp 1 is a pvp corp with around 12 members looking for lolz and a fight Corp 2 is another pvp corp with 10 people who only fight highsec indy corps
Corp 1 dec's Corp 2. Corp 2 runs to a giant alliance to dec shield corp 1 and screw em over while the alliance now gets to ram head first into the small pvp corp.
How is that in anyway awesome? Or are you one of those pro-blob pvp'ers?
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Tarvos Telesto
Blood Fanatics
43
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Posted - 2012.11.09 13:44:00 -
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How to lose own carebears subsciribers at own wish, simple, prema wardec, make people more emo rage like miners etc, wardec them foreverm and force them to play like other want. |
Oops Ididitagain
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.11.09 14:21:00 -
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Andski wrote:what i'm saying is that pretending that this stupid wardec system or that any of the fluff being added in Retribution doing anything to encourage PvP is a hilarious fallacy, the end goal is to make hisec a risk-free themepark because CCP is dead-set on attracting every type of player possible
shame that they'll be holding the welcome sign at the door waiting for the stampede of new subs which simply won't come
Oops Gäó Nostadamus alert. |
Silk daShocka
Greasy Hair Club
92
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Posted - 2012.11.09 14:24:00 -
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Anslo wrote:Solstice Project wrote:Depends on who you ask.
DecShield is awesome, because it's an easy way to get thousands of players to shoot at.
The ones whining about it are the ones one can shoot at ............. Oh gimme a break that's B.S. and you know it. Corp 1 is a pvp corp with around 12 members looking for lolz and a fight Corp 2 is another pvp corp with 10 people who only fight highsec indy corps Corp 1 dec's Corp 2. Corp 2 runs to a giant alliance to dec shield corp 1 and screw em over while the alliance now gets to ram head first into the small pvp corp. How is that in anyway awesome? Or are you one of those pro-blob pvp'ers?
So let's say instead of Dec shield Corp 2 runs to a mercenary group, pays them very well, and the mercenary group blobs the small pvp corp.
IS this a bad thing too? |
Anslo
BHEI Galactic Construction The Unforgiven Alliance
533
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Posted - 2012.11.09 14:28:00 -
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Silk daShocka wrote:Anslo wrote:Solstice Project wrote:Depends on who you ask.
DecShield is awesome, because it's an easy way to get thousands of players to shoot at.
The ones whining about it are the ones one can shoot at ............. Oh gimme a break that's B.S. and you know it. Corp 1 is a pvp corp with around 12 members looking for lolz and a fight Corp 2 is another pvp corp with 10 people who only fight highsec indy corps Corp 1 dec's Corp 2. Corp 2 runs to a giant alliance to dec shield corp 1 and screw em over while the alliance now gets to ram head first into the small pvp corp. How is that in anyway awesome? Or are you one of those pro-blob pvp'ers? So let's say instead of Dec shield Corp 2 runs to a mercenary group, pays them very well, and the mercenary group blobs the small pvp corp. IS this a bad thing too?
tbh, in terms of small gang warefare so many pvp'ers like to tout as what was once the great thing about Eve?
Yes.
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Silk daShocka
Greasy Hair Club
92
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Posted - 2012.11.09 14:58:00 -
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Anslo wrote:Silk daShocka wrote:Anslo wrote:Solstice Project wrote:Depends on who you ask.
DecShield is awesome, because it's an easy way to get thousands of players to shoot at.
The ones whining about it are the ones one can shoot at ............. Oh gimme a break that's B.S. and you know it. Corp 1 is a pvp corp with around 12 members looking for lolz and a fight Corp 2 is another pvp corp with 10 people who only fight highsec indy corps Corp 1 dec's Corp 2. Corp 2 runs to a giant alliance to dec shield corp 1 and screw em over while the alliance now gets to ram head first into the small pvp corp. How is that in anyway awesome? Or are you one of those pro-blob pvp'ers? So let's say instead of Dec shield Corp 2 runs to a mercenary group, pays them very well, and the mercenary group blobs the small pvp corp. IS this a bad thing too? tbh, in terms of small gang warefare so many pvp'ers like to tout as what was once the great thing about Eve? Yes.
If small gang warfare is such an integral part of wardecs, then why is it that corps always bring the largest fleet that they can to hunt WT during war? I mean aside from griefers deccing indy corps and some other minor exceptions this is usually what happens anyways. SO why is dec shield relevant to small gang warfare? Most of the guys I know that like small gang warfare don't rely on the silly war dec mechanics to get people to shoot at, they roll out to low or null. Even then, what is small gang warfare other than a small blob? Some dudes do engage when outnumbered or against the odds when in a small gang, but I would say the majority of them will pick fights that they have a very good chance of winning. IS bombers bar small gang warfare? They are a small gang of stealth bombers that constantly hotdrop 1 player that is in a BC or cruiser or w/e.
IS dec shield even really blobbing anyone? All the anecdotal evidence I've seen points to the opposite. The claims I've seen are that the big bad dec shield is generally of no threat itself. I mean you can argue that test syphoned wars from them, or that RvB (i heard) syphoned/is syphoning wars from them, but this is no different then if these 2 alliances were just to straight out declare war on these corps in the first place. The only difference is that they aren't paying a measly 50 mil / week for the dec.
I really fail to see why you think that dec shield has any relevance to the blob. The only issue with dec shield atm is that you can get free wars. The rest can be accomplished without dec shield existing. |
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