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Vera Algaert
Republic University Minmatar Republic
429
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Posted - 2012.11.11 09:11:00 -
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I find that the number of "close brushes with death" increased massively as I became more experienced in pvp.
If you are anything like me then there are a lot of situations which you curently regard as "instant death" that you could probably survive if you had some more experience. And eventually (as you grow more experienced and confident) some of these "instant death" situations might even lead to amazing kills.
No not-believing!
You actually have to try in order to succeed. Something I see a lot in newer players (and which I occasionally suffer from myself) is that they give up or only make half-hearted efforts once they realize that they are caught in a bad situation.
Guess what? most of your enemies are just as bad at this game as you are. They make terrible mistakes all the time and if you keep your calm and never stop believing (until you are back in your medical station) you will be able to survive many bad situations by capitalizing on your enemies' mistakes.
If you catch yourself or someone you play with going "f*** this, I'm dead" while their ship has still one hitpoint of structure left, then give them a smack on the head and tell them "No Not Believing!". I'm a NPC corp alt, any argument I make is invalid. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1724
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Posted - 2012.11.11 09:27:00 -
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Vera Algaert wrote:Guess what? most of your enemies are just as bad at this game as you are. They make terrible mistakes all the time Well actually, since you mentioned it ... Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
Kaivar Lancer
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
230
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Posted - 2012.11.12 06:26:00 -
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I was gonna rant but meh... when your disappointment reaches such lows, you just give up... |
Herr Hammer Draken
156
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Posted - 2012.11.12 06:56:00 -
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Yes
Herr Hammer Draken "The Amarr Prophet" |
Merovee
Gorthaur Legion Of Mordor
62
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Posted - 2012.11.12 07:34:00 -
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try living in low-sec, only going to high for supplies. See if you can make it work for a year. |
Xen Solarus
Inner 5phere
188
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Posted - 2012.11.12 07:45:00 -
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Solo PvP is dead. |
AndromacheDarkstar
Fiscal Fisting Inc. Imperial Protectorate
138
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Posted - 2012.11.12 08:35:00 -
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Kaivar Lancer wrote:Well I''m gonna train for FW then. Is it doable with two accounts? I can dual box.
more than possible with two accounts, hopefully ill see you on the field soon. Have fun in FW Fiscal Fisting, Amarr Militia Corp Recruiting Now - https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2019004#post2019004 -á
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Karn Dulake
Sad Flutes
994
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Posted - 2012.11.12 08:38:00 -
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There is none but i am addicted to skill points and nothing more.
Its become nothing but tedium I dont normally troll, but when i do i do it on General Discussion. |
Ludi Burek
The Player Haters Corp
192
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Posted - 2012.11.12 10:20:00 -
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I would have to say no since 99% of people I considered "space friends" have stopped playing for various reasons and I'm too irritable/bitter(vet) to put the effort into making new friends. One just has to look in a random direction and be underwhelmed by what is on offer.
I find myself getting excited about plans to do something only to go "wtf this **** is pathetic" once I put the plans into action. This just highlights what a terrible terrible game eve is for solo
Trading is still entertaining I guess. And forums |
Inquisitor Kitchner
Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes
396
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Posted - 2012.11.12 10:30:00 -
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Join Null Sec, we are where the real action is (sometimes). "If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli |
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Ruskarn Andedare
Lion Investments
5
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Posted - 2012.11.12 10:39:00 -
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Xen Solarus wrote:Solo PvP is dead.
Not in FW it isn't |
Tarvos Telesto
Blood Fanatics
49
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Posted - 2012.11.12 12:27:00 -
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To OP.
After 5 years in EvE im a bit tired form this game but i still love EvE, no wonder 507 days online so far, i got a lot fun and i spent great time while playing alone or with friends, EvE still offer a lot fun, however in my case i need multiple breaks form game to get that feeling EvE caling me back, longer breaks i got more i want play, I remember times when i frist time unlock destroyer i feel so powerfull i cant feel this anymore even im able to use multiple rases ships ;) |
Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
974
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Posted - 2012.11.12 12:40:00 -
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Eugene Kerner wrote:Try trying.
+1
PS, some green little dude in a Galaxy far, far away said "There is no try! Do, or do not!"
Personnel Division Director --áBene Gesserit Chapterhouse
"The universe is an ancient desert, a vast wasteland with only occasional habitable planets as oases. We Fremen, comfortable with deserts, shall now venture into another." - STILGAR, From the Sietch to the Stars. |
Alua Oresson
Demon-War-Lords Fatal Ascension
149
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Posted - 2012.11.12 12:43:00 -
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I still find this game extremely exciting. There are always new forum posts from people complaining about this or that. I get constant enjoyment from reading them. Wait, you mean there's an actual video game associated with these forums? http://pvpwannabe.blogspot.com/ |
Kaivar Lancer
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
230
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Posted - 2012.11.12 14:36:00 -
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So I spent some time doing plexes in FW. I was in a Caldari system, got spotted by a pirate who then proceeded to spend the next 20 minutes chasing me down as I warped to different nav points and systems, trying to shake him off! Crazy! In the end I died, but what disturbed me was the relentless pursuit, as if I spat on his mother's grave.
It was WEIRD. It felt like I was being chased by a Reaver from Serenity or something. |
Tetsel
Heretic Army Heretic Nation
38
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Posted - 2012.11.12 14:45:00 -
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Kaivar Lancer wrote:Schmata Bastanold wrote:If you can only find gate camps or complete emptiness in lowsec either you are a perfect scout or complete failure. When I fly in low sec, I'm in a Vigil with 3x warp stabs and 3 x low friction nozzles. These days I only get popped via smart bombs or when I'm trying to be smart and ninja loot/salvage T2 wrecks at a gate camp e.g. Amamake. Looking around the wreckage in Amamake, though, most other ships don't survive gate camps.
Yeah, I remember you now... So instead of salvaging in your "soon to be dead" vigil on the gate in Amamake, just take a pvp fregate and warp to top belt, you will have pvp. Twitter:-á-á-á-á@EVE_Tetsel-á-á-á@HereticArmy |
Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
396
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Posted - 2012.11.12 15:07:00 -
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Kaivar Lancer wrote:Self-confessed carebare here. Sometimes I like to explore low sec for a change of pace but meh, it seems to be an all-or-nothing proposition. You either get insta-popped at a gate camp or you can spend many hours in low sec up to a point where it almost feels like high sec.
But there's nothing inbetween. No close calls. No brushes with death. I thought about solo PVP but I get the feeling it'll be the same thing - hours upon hours spent looking for viable targets, just to get insta-popped by a gate camping blob.
I heard about RvB but that seems kinda lame.
I'm thinking of training up exploration and doing cloaky. ninja stuff in WH or null sec. Is this viable or am I wasting my time?
I do appreciate the oppurtunity to throw out one of my favorite EVe Truisms: EVe is a sandbox, if you are in a sandbox but not having fun, it's not the sand's fault".
I've been playing EVE for more than 5 years and though I've "lived" in null for 3 and a half of those years, I'm still primarily a pve player/ I've done every kind of "pew pew" pve there is, missions, incursions, anomalies and complexes, Belt Ratting, cosmos, Events, you name it. I just recently moved to "Blood Raider" space after being away from it for almost 2 years and re-learning how to tank rats that neutralize your can and how to survive in those super nasty Blood Complexes has been a lot of fun. When it stops being as much fun there are still other things to go and do, and new things on the Eve horizon.
And you're wrong about low sec. Every time time i go into low sec it's a close call, but then again I never have to deal with gate camps because i use a scout.
Benny Ohu: No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff
Clystan: Eve is the game of chess in a universe of checkers. |
Ruskarn Andedare
Lion Investments
6
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Posted - 2012.11.12 15:59:00 -
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Kaivar Lancer wrote:So I spent some time doing plexes in FW. I was in a Caldari system, got spotted by a pirate who then proceeded to spend the next 20 minutes chasing me down as I warped to different nav points and systems, trying to shake him off! Crazy! In the end I died, but what disturbed me was the relentless pursuit, as if I spat on his mother's grave.
It was WEIRD. It felt like I was being chased by a Reaver from Serenity or something.
Nice of him to put in the effort to prevent you getting bored
How was it on the excitement / adrenaline scale? |
Marvin Narville
The Scope Gallente Federation
12
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Posted - 2012.11.12 17:18:00 -
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Kaivar Lancer wrote:Self-confessed carebare here.
Mining while naked? I detect an attempt to deter miner bumpers via homophobia. Emergent game play at its finest.
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Silver Plated
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2012.11.12 17:29:00 -
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I prefer Eve when it isn't being interesting personally. Eve is where I come to chill out in my little corner with my corp and generally try to ignore the rest of Eve until it suits me.
Nul-Sec is good for this. |
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Eternal Montage
Frontier Explorer's League Sadistica Alliance
29
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Posted - 2012.11.12 18:07:00 -
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Kaivar Lancer wrote:Self-confessed carebare here. Sometimes I like to explore low sec for a change of pace but meh, it seems to be an all-or-nothing proposition. You either get insta-popped at a gate camp or you can spend many hours in low sec up to a point where it almost feels like high sec.
But there's nothing inbetween. No close calls. No brushes with death. I thought about solo PVP but I get the feeling it'll be the same thing - hours upon hours spent looking for viable targets, just to get insta-popped by a gate camping blob.
I heard about RvB but that seems kinda lame.
I'm thinking of training up exploration and doing cloaky. ninja stuff in WH or null sec. Is this viable or am I wasting my time?
I couldn't disagree more. They say there is no right or wrong way of playing eve but I think you might actually be playing it wrong. Right off the bat you say you're a carebear and that you're bored. See... that right there is an obvious contradiction. You see... You aren't taking enough risks.
I'm the type of pilot that makes magic happen. I'm not trying to sound conceited but it's true. I take risks and get rewards because of them. I have 10-20 close calls and brushes with death a day! Ask anyone who's flown with me, I make **** happen. I live by the philosophy that "If you're bored, you aren't taking big enough risks" and every time I'm bored I try to push the envelope. I try to come up with some crazy ass thing for me and my eve friends to do and I'm never bored because of it.
I truly believe that I can get away with saying this because I know I'm not the only one of my kind. Half the people responding to this post are the real deal. This is what happens when you take a creative mind and put it in the context of Eve online. A creative mind sees possibilities, comes up with experiments, tries out stupid ideas... because why not?
All around me I see players who don't take risks. They buy expensive ships and turtle wax them. They mission endlessly and they complain that they're bored. It's silly. They would never hop in a 40 mil cruiser and go solo in nullsec. The idea seems impossible to them. Now... it's not that these people are stupid. On the contrary, they're quite smart, but they lack creativity and they simply can't see the possibilities that I see. Or they have creativity and fear the risk involved with their ideas. But I say **** that. This is a video game. Do stupid ****--it will be worth it, what are you really risking? Time? Get blown up more, it's not like you can actually get a "game over" in eve. Life goes on in the form of an eternal montage.
So with all this said I probably look like a cocky bastard... maybe I am. Personally I think I'm just confident, and when you fly with a little confidence, a little creativity; if you allow yourself to come up with ideas, you can really do amazing things in this game. Basically what I'm saying is don't hate the player, hate the game--cuz you're clearly approaching it wrong. You need to change your mentality if you want to have more fun. You need to think like a boss if you want to "win" at eve. Cuz, eve is like life. Everyone is competing for success, you have to do something different to get it! It's the only game of its kind.
So for starters:
-Review your fight-finding methods: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kMwU-J_NjE -Start building CHEAP ships in BULK, fly with confidence knowing you can use your piece of **** to kill things that cost 10x as much. When you fly expensive ships you fly with less confidence unless if you're in a bling fleet! If you die in your cheapo shitbox, you've got 9 more waiting in your hangar! Get back out there! -Come up with more imaginative schemes and experiments -Be a problem solver not a problem creator -Whenever you feel bored in eve either log off and go do something else, or come up with something batshit crazy to do! -Watch more solo PVP videos to see what exactly it takes to solo
The entire world of eve is constantly hustling and bustling with activity. Ponder this: there is ALWAYS pvp happening in Eve. There is ALWAYS something to do in Eve. If you can't find ANYTHING to do... just log off. If you think about it this way the game is perfect. It will never disappoint you, you can only disappoint yourself! Clearly what you're missing here is simply a pep talk, so I hope you read this and get what I'm trying to put across. You are a freaking space pilot. Isn't this what you always wanted ever since you were a little kid and saw/read your first science fiction? What did you expect to do with this great honor? What would you do if you really were in space? Be one of the colonists that get captured by Sansha and turned into a robot chicken? Or be one of the few, the proud, the capsuleers; who defy the laws of physics and mortality and who's power knows no bounds.
Welcome to Eve Online
TLDR: You make eve what it is. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=169738 |
Ryhss
Clandestine Management Group
35
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Posted - 2012.11.12 20:41:00 -
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In answer to the threads title question, no Eve day. I guess I hope CCP actually fixes the game instead of introducing more broken expansions. I don't dislike the game, I just hope it gets fixed. |
Kaivar Lancer
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
232
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Posted - 2012.11.12 20:47:00 -
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Yah, I've been in FW for a few days now. It's sorta fun trying to dodge the gate camps, pirates and what-not. |
Speaker4 theDead
Furian Necromongers
14
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Posted - 2012.11.12 21:07:00 -
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Ryhss wrote:In answer to the threads title question, no Eve day. I guess I hope CCP actually fixes the game instead of introducing more broken expansions. I don't dislike the game, I just hope it gets fixed.
^^^^ This.
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Beekeeper Bob
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
289
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Posted - 2012.11.12 22:15:00 -
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The excitement you feel for the game is affected by your wallet. Once you have a couple hundred billion in isk and assets, what is there left to strive for?
Oh sure, there are a few people who are driven to have more, more more, but that is an addiction, not normal gameplay. The average person just wants enough to do what he wants. What is the point of grinding isk beyond that? PvP is decent at gang level, but it's still a matter of finding a target(s) you can handle, and avoiding the ones you can't, I've gone on roams where you didn't get a fight for 2 hours. Fleet level pvp is a boring joke, waiting hours to hopefully get a fight, then either blueballing due to numbers, or getting blueballed due to numbers. Then when you do get a fight it's F1 until you die .....
I didn't mention PvE, since PVE is really just a way to make isk...nothing more. If you no longer need isk, PVE is simply a time waster.
The thrill is gone baby....... "Paranoia is the number one killer of idiots and Republicans." |
Wrathful Hawk
Warsmiths Warsmiths.
8
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Posted - 2012.11.13 00:03:00 -
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Quote: Is this game exciting for you anymore?
No.
High sec war mechanics are broken (and i'm not talking about perma decs, they need a full overhaul, actually make people WANT to fight, defend, whatever.). Low sec combat mechanics are pointless, kill people for a good fight without a reprecussion or consistent reward. Null sec war mechanics are the same and have been for the last x years. (pick a number between 1 - 1,000,000, either way it'll still be the same grind as always) ISK grinding is dull and unchallenging, and the risk / reward ratio is entirely off. - I'm looking at you, 0.0, Incursions, Wormholes. The playerbase is stagnated. Those that want to play EVE, do, those that don't, don't. The game has no new innovations - Woo, NEW DESTROYERS. big whoop. I'm not asking for NEW Content, i prefer polish over pointless fluff any day, but at least when you try polish something do it right and not half assed.
I have little reason to play anymore, i find other games far more entertaining. I'm waiting for star citizen in the hopes that it wont coddle its players (here's to hoping), DOTA 2 as it requires skill and attention and Mech Warrior Online for a little bit of instant gratification.
Since EVE decided to "FIX" things, they've made good decisions on things that need fixing (war dec mechanics, low sec grinding mechanics, etc.) but executed them TERRIBLY, time and time again. So now, here i sit, cold and bitter browsing the forums because once more.
Perhaps you can't teach an old dog new tricks, but perhaps you should also have the kidness to put the damned thing out of misery when it struggles to get up the stairs. Players are quitting this game, slowly and surely, because it just doesn't entertain anymore, I have many an old friend/corp mate/alliance mate who would agree to that.
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NickyYo
StarHug
256
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Posted - 2012.11.13 00:24:00 -
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Wait, EvE is a game? i thought we were controlling real people on the other side of the universe through this game!! .. |
Ranzabar
Vertical Ventures Unlimited Corp
27
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Posted - 2012.11.13 01:12:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:Crimewatch 2.0: Protecting stupid people & rewarding lazy people. This hurts the smart & industrious people by making their intelligence & industry provide them with less benefit over the stupid & lazy people. ~ Ruby Porto.
Sounds absolutely Republican
Keep your expectations tiny and you won't be so winey |
Ranzabar
Vertical Ventures Unlimited Corp
27
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Posted - 2012.11.13 01:14:00 -
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Xinivrae wrote:Don't play the game by yourself.
I play by myself quite often. Only got caught once.
Keep your expectations tiny and you won't be so winey |
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