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Amann Nig'ra
Exanimo Inc Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2012.11.11 05:54:00 -
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This player is a ship thief. My old corporation was in a wormhole with his old corporation, and he was the CEO of his corp. When we lost our station, he wanted our repping dominix to complement his own repping dominix for station defense while he evacuated ships. We all got out and a week later I PMed him. He PMed me back and told me he would not give it back.
I just want to let everyone know to not trust this guy, for he will steal your stuff if you let him. I think I am going to also hire Kane to hunt him down, and also going to gank him if I see him for being a little thief. |
Piugattuk
CLOROFLORFILAPLANKTONPLATES
91
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Posted - 2012.11.11 06:08:00 -
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Yes cannibal kane does fine work, if he's not available you can contact Croakroach. |
Cameron Cahill
Dissonance Corp Unclaimed.
119
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Posted - 2012.11.11 22:58:00 -
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Does a 'stolen' (it sounds to me like you gave him it) dominix really warrant a c&p thread? |
Amann Nig'ra
Exanimo Inc Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2012.11.12 00:45:00 -
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He wante to borrow it with intent to return it. When I asked him to return it, he told me to **** off and to not talk to him again. Then he blocked me ingame. So yeah, he did steal it. |
Shylari Avada
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.11.12 01:10:00 -
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Amann Nig'ra wrote:This player is a ship thief. My old corporation was in a wormhole with his old corporation, and he was the CEO of his corp. When we lost our station, he wanted our repping dominix to complement his own repping dominix for station defense while he evacuated ships. We all got out and a week later I PMed him. He PMed me back and told me he would not give it back.
I just want to let everyone know to not trust this guy, for he will steal your stuff if you let him. I think I am going to also hire Kane to hunt him down, and also going to gank him if I see him for being a little thief.
Nice documentation of proof there boy-o.
Amann Nig'ra is a corp thief, he stole upwards of 2347891256365234876324 million billion isk from empire publords.
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Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
182
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Posted - 2012.11.12 01:32:00 -
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Cameron Cahill wrote:Does a 'stolen' (it sounds to me like you gave him it) dominix really warrant a c&p thread?
At what point is theft acceptable?
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Gibbo5771
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
41
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Posted - 2012.11.12 01:47:00 -
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How dare you steal from unclaimed and unclaimedDOT who have jaggeded alliance and all the rest of the heavy team behind him.
How, *******, dare, he.
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Amann Nig'ra
Exanimo Inc Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2012.11.12 01:52:00 -
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Shylari Avada wrote:Amann Nig'ra wrote:This player is a ship thief. My old corporation was in a wormhole with his old corporation, and he was the CEO of his corp. When we lost our station, he wanted our repping dominix to complement his own repping dominix for station defense while he evacuated ships. We all got out and a week later I PMed him. He PMed me back and told me he would not give it back.
I just want to let everyone know to not trust this guy, for he will steal your stuff if you let him. I think I am going to also hire Kane to hunt him down, and also going to gank him if I see him for being a little thief. Nice documentation of proof there boy-o. Amann Nig'ra is a corp thief, he stole upwards of 2347891256365234876324 million billion isk from empire publords.
I wasn't aware I needed to have documented proof with screenshots.
Shylari Avada is a fail troll, you win 0 internets. Problem?
The corp that I was a part of that got stolen from was called Viral Pandemic. So BIack didn't steal from unclaimed. I joined Unclaimed a week ago since Viral kinda fell apart, and this occured like 3-4 weeks ago. But Black is still a thief. Thank you for the quick reply Kane. |
Shylari Avada
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.11.12 06:40:00 -
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Amann Nig'ra wrote:I wasn't aware I needed to have documented proof with screenshots.
Normally when you are trying to prove that someone is a thief, scammer, etc some supporting evidence would be nice, although I'm just going to assume that you must be new here.
I wasn't trolling either, just pointing out that anyone can come here and say anything about anyone; without proof my claim is just as valid as yours.
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Lady Spank
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
2899
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Posted - 2012.11.13 20:17:00 -
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I think your racist name is of far bigger concern than someone not handing back a tier 1 battleship. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ (my spaceblog) http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.co.uk/~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
449
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Posted - 2012.11.13 21:00:00 -
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Your proof...your proof...your proof is on fire! Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Boomhaur
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Posted - 2012.11.13 22:36:00 -
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Val'Dore wrote:Cameron Cahill wrote:Does a 'stolen' (it sounds to me like you gave him it) dominix really warrant a c&p thread? At what point is theft acceptable?
The second you log into Eve. Welcome to Eve. Everyone here is an Evil Sick Sadistic Bastard who is out to get you. Anyone who tells you otherwise is either trying to scam you or use you. |
Tul Breetai
Impromptu Asset Requisition
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Posted - 2012.11.14 09:01:00 -
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People get so excited by this "Theft is within the EULA read the EULA THIS IS EVE GET HARDER DERP DERP DERPDERPDPERPSDAW[" that they ignore the reason OP has posted. Yes, OP knows this is eve trust no one yaddyadda. No, that is not because "no one can be trusted" but because there is usually little to no incentive to be honest, and you yourself cannot know if the person in question has incentive. OP has posted not to whine or demand a change to mechanics, but to get what little revenge he can: make it somewhat more difficult for this guy to steal in the future.
As he said, he's also hiring Kane, but that's the kind of revenge you have to pay for. signaturrrrrrrr |
Shylari Avada
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.11.14 11:53:00 -
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Tul Breetai wrote:People get so excited by this "Theft is within the EULA read the EULA THIS IS EVE GET HARDER DERP DERP DERPDERPDPERPSDAW[" that they ignore the reason OP has posted. Yes, OP knows this is eve trust no one yaddyadda. No, that is not because "no one can be trusted" but because there is usually little to no incentive to be honest, and you yourself cannot know if the person in question has incentive. OP has posted not to whine or demand a change to mechanics, but to get what little revenge he can: make it somewhat more difficult for this guy to steal in the future.
As he said, he's also hiring Kane, but that's the kind of revenge you have to pay for.
Seems like a lot of effort for a Dominix.
Amann, if you were a cell-phone, you'd be an iMad. |
Ristlin Wakefield
Wanderers of the Eternal Darkness Eternal Pretorian Alliance
138
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Posted - 2012.11.14 14:31:00 -
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Shylari Avada wrote:Tul Breetai wrote:People get so excited by this "Theft is within the EULA read the EULA THIS IS EVE GET HARDER DERP DERP DERPDERPDPERPSDAW[" that they ignore the reason OP has posted. Yes, OP knows this is eve trust no one yaddyadda. No, that is not because "no one can be trusted" but because there is usually little to no incentive to be honest, and you yourself cannot know if the person in question has incentive. OP has posted not to whine or demand a change to mechanics, but to get what little revenge he can: make it somewhat more difficult for this guy to steal in the future.
As he said, he's also hiring Kane, but that's the kind of revenge you have to pay for. Seems like a lot of effort for a Dominix. Amann, if you were a cell-phone, you'd be an iMad.
So bad I have a lover, her name is EVE. I see her every night and all she asks in return is that I have a pilot's license. |
De'Veldrin
East India Ore Trade Intrepid Crossing
476
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Posted - 2012.11.14 14:35:00 -
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Tul Breetai wrote: As he said, he's also hiring Kane, but that's the kind of revenge you have to pay for.
Revenge is a dish best served with a white sauce and truffles. Unsub or don't.-á I don't care what your reasons are, and neither does anyone else.-á Just click the button and go away - or don't. |
Diesel47
painkiller.
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Posted - 2012.11.14 16:21:00 -
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Lady Spank wrote:I think your racist name is of far bigger concern than someone not handing back a tier 1 battleship. There is nothing racist about his name.
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Darth Bri
Rage of Inferno Burning Ambition
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Posted - 2012.11.14 16:25:00 -
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Amann Nig'ra wrote:This player is a ship thief. My old corporation was in a wormhole with his old corporation, and he was the CEO of his corp. When we lost our station, he wanted our repping dominix to complement his own repping dominix for station defense while he evacuated ships. We all got out and a week later I PMed him. He PMed me back and told me he would not give it back.
I just want to let everyone know to not trust this guy, for he will steal your stuff if you let him. I think I am going to also hire Kane to hunt him down, and also going to gank him if I see him for being a little thief.
you look like Michael Jackson!
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Xiphos Volund
ScionTech Services
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Posted - 2012.11.14 23:38:00 -
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Assuming op is true; you loaned out a ship to a guy you didn't really know, who was obviously in trouble, without collateral and expected to get the ship back? |
Mananjistej Black
Horizon Nebula
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Posted - 2012.11.15 00:38:00 -
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Currently writing reply :)
Just got linked this post earlier |
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Mananjistej Black
Horizon Nebula
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Posted - 2012.11.15 00:39:00 -
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PART 1
Feel free to research this ......
Subject - Theft of dominix Spud RR 4-2 meta fit in system J235759
Nice picture of J235759
The WH operstion was initiated by myself and organised by the CEO's of three corporations (inc my own) called TP WH Conglomerate. I still do not know what "TP" actually meant as the meaning was lost in the small hours of some random night. However the name stuck.
The conglomerate comprised of 3 corps - Rising Thunder Viral Pandemic Corfforedig Du a McQ (my own)
Background
Recruiting whole corporations seemed and interesting challenge as I did not want talk people, I wanted action people. Several methods were tried.
Viral Pandemic -
I recruited viral pandemic by wardeccing them. They were living in Ignebaener at the time. This is dominated by the level 4 misson agents with a locator option also in system. The war was good fun as my corp mate and I placed all corp alts in same low sec sys then watched them pile in reliably the next day as the local pirates got wind of some juicy targets to throw their way. Needless to say Viral did not return to the low sec location. Then I got camped in station in my home system of Apanake which subsequently reversed scenario and ended up with a megathron having to keep docking up because of myself rather than vice versa. I ended up camping with 2-3 alts in Ignebaener itself. CORFF got some easy kills with fast and cheap gear and called it a day after a nice chat with the C.E.O. of Viral Pandemic via TS3. I liked their gung-ho attitude. They pile in well and like the in your face dps method which is nice in some applications. Kind of suicidal when it comes to traps though
What I did not know was that in the 3 hours (!) I spent talking on TS3 with the CEO of Viral Pandemic, 8 of his members left out of frustration of not getting a direct fight from me; leaving for RvB and NPC corps. I never did find this out until I was actually IN the target WH a short time later at which point resources were already commited....
Rising Thunder -
This corporation was from a previous alliance that dissolved through total none communication across the group They were wardecced for several weeks by the Interstellar Hobos alliance (Gonditsa based) during a low sec project.n++ They have a strong group sense, friendly and technically minded but not necessarily experienced across the whole group but have some very good members.
The Finding of J235759
So anyway got the group together, got a common chat channel for us , and set up a mailing list to break the time zone problem. As a group scouted out several systems and found a nice C2. J235759 had been found and we wanted it for us :) Commonly used chat channels by CORFF at time in question
There was 3 towers in there already - 1 offline (abandoned) 1 belonging to the corporation named "here we go" (Heavily fortified, Australian TZ corporation) 1 belonging to the corporation named "Psychonautics" It was going to be a tower bash job....
Here We Go !
A couple of players sorted out intel nicely and producing some good scouting reults so we took the system with a coordinated action of a wardec versus "here we go" and a simultaneous assault on the psychonautics tower. I attacked the Psychonautics tower solo to get things started. It was a laugh to get things motivated at first as feet were dragging at this point.
So we took on the tower and despite 3 corps there was too many people in high sec or generally not around, but anyhows a few players started to drift in via the low sec in and started bashing, but as it was dribbles of fleet members drifting in from the other 2 corporations there was never enough people to actually really damage the tower or reinforce it. Also the EU time zone was rather under-represented.
After the first bash the tower was reppered up and some basic guns were actually added by the Psychos. The tower was actually attacked 4 times in the opening days in all resulting in all guns/scrams/etc being incapacitated, but that's about it.... Some good fleet work was done considering our loose arrangement as a conglomerate.
A week passed by..... I sent mail via the mailing list for the groups in this time period informing of the basics needed to take down the Psycho tower, 8 battleships and a few hours, is not really asking for much from between us all..... .... considering the assets that the corporations on our conglomerate had put into this already !
3 towers had been set up by our groups..... Large Amarr (3rd tower setup) - Rising Thunder (you pay for the fuel not I !) Medium Caldari (initial tower) - Viral Pandemic Medium Caldari (2nd tower setup) - CORFF
Practical ???!
A select few individuals came in from the group, treated the system like a low sec ratting system; leaving for the nearest low sec station at the end of the day. This may seem reasonable to many, though as the entrance/exit to the wormhole changes daily due the wormhole mechanics. This also leaves 3 towers with muggins here on the EU time-zone on overwatch solo.
I sent a mail - It was apparent that the Psychonautics were going to prepare for another assault. I would as well if my enemy stopped attacking........ "here we go" corp had pulled out their tower in a nice co-operative action with the Psycho bunch using the time-zone hole in our activity. This made things more simpler for us as a group in military terms.
CONTINUED |
Surfin's PlunderBunny
The Python Cartel.
3512
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Posted - 2012.11.15 02:00:00 -
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Huh, ship recipient (refuse to use thief as ship was given freely) seems to have posted a much more coherent post than op "Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff-á |
Mananjistej Black
Horizon Nebula
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Posted - 2012.11.15 02:43:00 -
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Part 2 is being written currently |
Surfin's PlunderBunny
The Python Cartel.
3512
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Posted - 2012.11.15 02:50:00 -
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Mananjistej Black wrote:Part 2 is being written currently
Very good... keep me posted "Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff-á |
Zaenis Desef
Holding Long And Hard LONG AND HARD.
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Posted - 2012.11.15 02:56:00 -
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Mananjistej Black wrote:Part 2 is being written currently
I can't wait to not read part 2 either. |
Mananjistej Black
Horizon Nebula
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Posted - 2012.11.15 03:46:00 -
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PART 2
Then the enemy assault began against Viral Pandemic tower. This was reported to the conglomerate.
Next day
So one tower went into reinforced and muggins here had a corp-mate telling me that because our tower was not actually attacked that we are not in immediate danger. This did not go down well with me as it was a little beside the point......
So I asked myself why I should look after the assets of others when clearly they dont value them. Still the evemails went unanswered This reduced me to the role of system caretaker for the PvE convenience-on-demand for the benefit of other "friendlies".
The factors together conversely infered that my own tower was about as defended as the amount of time I can be online myself. The enemy towers were still there after two weeks and despite having the logistics to hand it was too much to ask for a get together of sufficient time and DPS assets from my own conglomerate associates to correct this as was being demostrated to me in action. Thus I faced the decision of getting my own assets out or waiting to see if my corp mates theory on enemy intent was correct...
Anyhow, i thought some chivalry would be in hand and a promise is a promise so i went to rep the other tower (Viral Pandemic) as the CEO had had to leave IRL and had politely asked me to overwatch his tower on the interim time period. I agreed. This made about two weeks of late nights for me so far and the repping went into morning hours However, in that time I DID manage to get two barely started new eve players to come help from a third party corporation who were more help than the entire associate members of the conglomerate.
As the WH was giving RR bonus and with skill restrictions through time availalble we were using spud RR (domi + 4-2 rep) as the mainstay logistics. I had a pair a T2 fitted 4-2 domi and one was lost during a chain collapsing operation in efforts to find a considerably more friendly area than the one we were linked to on that particular day. Therefore I requested while I was repping the tower and helping the Mr Thread Writer to get his own corporations ships out (successfuly) for the single domi-logi they had to make a pair up for my own tower (as a single is ineffective for PvP operations and general survival probabilities given that they are cap dependent as a pair).
However, when the "RvB" stand-in FC for the Viral Pandemic corp came online (at my ridiculous o'clock time) and after a Rising Thunder member had pointlessly thrown away an asset which i had asked NOT to be bought in; I was frozen out from being told what was going on (additional to the intel black hole I had already) I was already annoyed long before this time and tired after operating several characters, and FC'ing, and chasing after people that found it hard to reply to an evemail.
What to do ?!?
So - I had an RvB FC on viral pandemic freezing me out (under rather strange circumstances) A corp mate with suicidal intel analysis tendancies No intel evemail responses from my own group Tiredness after repping viral tower all night and two weeks of late nights Responsibility to FC A large amount of unknown enemy in system A situation to decide on ASAP
This was not a hard decision to make...
So on wearily awakening to a fresh EU TZ day to the Viral Pandemic tower coming under fire I packed up my tower into haulers, got some ships out, lost ships trying to get out and destroyed the rest myself rather than give the enemy free ships or easy kills.
This included the Viral Pandemics dominix SO TOUGH LUCK
Re: hey From: Mananjistej Black Sent: 2012.11.10 18:21 To: Amann Nig'ra,
No Dont ask for anything else from me again
To his credit he did ask politely
Currently
I am and have been available available for wardec or ganking for as long as this whole episode has gone on for. It must have been very brave and scary indeed for Mr Thread Writer to set up cans labelling this character a thief in Apanake system........ I am still logged off in J235759 and have more respect for my rival than I do for my previous associates. I will stay there for as long as I wish and have neither plans to leave or to attack. To date I have never been in contact with the Viral Pandemic CEO on TS3 (....), nor in chat, since he left IRL (...). Several people may believe they have been blocked out of hand and they may be correct in this perspective. However, under the circunstances, the amount of unknowns, and a certain other scary factor this is not going to change. I have no issues with Mr Thread Writer
Side Note - Anyone that uses my email (not evemail) address as a means for a harrassment through manipulation and abuse of trust I think of as scum. I will respond appropriately. |
Tah'ris Khlador
Space Ghosts. Break-A-Wish Foundation
244
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Posted - 2012.11.15 04:30:00 -
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So much more evidence on the side of the defense than on that of the accuser, however it does support the theory of theft.
Due to the nature of the contract not including a clause for "intact vessel," I fine the defense 3 metal scraps, to be paid to the plaintiff via contract. Court fees rests on the plaintiff for bringing this ridiculous matter to court.
Session adjourned. |
Mananjistej Black
Horizon Nebula
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Posted - 2012.11.15 04:51:00 -
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COMPLETE |
Surfin's PlunderBunny
The Python Cartel.
3512
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Posted - 2012.11.15 05:02:00 -
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An honest defendant o7 "Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff-á |
Shylari Avada
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.11.15 05:12:00 -
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Ristlin Wakefield wrote:So bad
Less than 100m is the reasoning for this abomination of a thread, excuse me for making seemingly ironically funny comments; because if you are legitimately taking any of this seriously, EVE may not be the game for you.
In before part 3 of a defense dissertation that I will not read. |
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