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Natalcya Katla
Naqam Shaktipat Revelators
39
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Posted - 2012.11.17 11:41:00 -
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Andreus Ixiris wrote:Hey, Natalcya, how come if Sansha Kuvakei can fix all of humanity's problems, he couldn't do anything about your face? Oh, is this the level of conversation we're at? Very well, I'll play along.
Possibly, he feels that rearranging the face of your mother is of greater immediate concern. |
Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations Shaktipat Revelators
671
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Posted - 2012.11.17 11:57:00 -
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Natalcya Katla wrote:Andreus Ixiris wrote:Hey, Natalcya, how come if Sansha Kuvakei can fix all of humanity's problems, he couldn't do anything about your face? Oh, is this the level of conversation we're at? Very well, I'll play along. Possibly, he feels that rearranging the face of your mother is of greater immediate concern.
Oh snap! |
Andreus Ixiris
Mixed Metaphor
1167
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Posted - 2012.11.17 12:22:00 -
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Natalcya Katla wrote:Possibly, he feels that rearranging the face of your mother is of greater immediate concern.
So are you trying to prove my point that he champions causes doomed to failure? Mane 614
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Gussarde en Welle
Fruidian Logic The Volition Cult
75
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Posted - 2012.11.17 15:49:00 -
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Andreus Ixiris wrote:Natalcya Katla wrote:Possibly, he feels that rearranging the face of your mother is of greater immediate concern. So are you trying to prove my point that he champions causes doomed to failure?
Ha!
Perhaps Sansha recruits future Slaves and Citizens with the intent of ensuring that he's always the best looking person in the room. Ah, utopia!
Now, back to my candlelight dinner with Scherezad.... |
Scherezad
Lai Dai Research Spacelane Security
241
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Posted - 2012.11.17 16:45:00 -
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Gussarde en Welle wrote:My darling Scherezad, I believe have answered your question, implicitly. In your most recent assertion, it seems that you assume that by my saying that one does not deserve the comforts one achieves by sacrificing one's autonomy, that this is a positive assertion that one deserves punishment if one does so. This would hold if one defines punishment as the absence of comfort. I have not and do not make this assertion.
Perhaps I have not completely understood your meaning, however. Perhaps you'd care to enlighten me?
If we weren't legally obligated to shoot at each other, I would totally discuss this with you over a candlelight dinner.
Um, well. I wasn't making any assertions, sir. You said that "One who is willing to sacrifice their autonomy for peace of mind deserves neither." I wanted to know why you thought this to be so. It seems a cruel thing to say.
I'd happily meet you to discuss this in person, but you're right, that might be difficult and perhaps inappropriate given our organizations. Unfortunate! |
Natalcya Katla
Naqam Shaktipat Revelators
39
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Posted - 2012.11.17 17:16:00 -
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Gussarde en Welle wrote:Perhaps Sansha recruits future Slaves and Citizens with the intent of ensuring that he's always the best looking person in the room. ...says the man who felt the need to dim the lights and turn away from the camera when posing for his Neocomm display picture. |
Gussarde en Welle
Fruidian Logic The Volition Cult
75
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Posted - 2012.11.17 18:06:00 -
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Natalcya Katla wrote:Gussarde en Welle wrote:Perhaps Sansha recruits future Slaves and Citizens with the intent of ensuring that he's always the best looking person in the room. ...says the man who felt the need to dim the lights and turn away from the camera when posing for his Neocomm display picture.
I hate pictures. I look better in person. |
Deacon Abox
Genstar Inc Villore Accords
11
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Posted - 2012.11.17 18:15:00 -
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Natalcya Katla wrote:Gussarde en Welle wrote:Perhaps Sansha recruits future Slaves and Citizens with the intent of ensuring that he's always the best looking person in the room. ...says the man who felt the need to dim the lights and turn away from the camera when posing for his Neocomm display picture. Could have been an intended act, to have his best side displayed. I know I thought about it.
I believe there is an ancient bit of comedic dialogue to explain:
Cat: Hi, buddy. Inquisitor: This is your judgment day, bud. I gotta be cruel. There can't be no favours. Cat: I'm hearing you on FM. Inquisitor: I have to ask you the question. Justify your existence; what contribution have you made? Cat: I have given pleasure to the world because I have such a beautiful ass. Inquisitor: Well, that's true. Cat: Can I go now? Inquisitor: That's your case? Cat: You need more? Inquisitor: Some might say that was a pretty shallow argument. Cat: Some might say I'm a pretty shallow guy; a shallow guy with a great ass. Inquisitor: Sometimes you astonish even me. Cat: Thank you. |
Rinai Vero
Moira. Villore Accords
1
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Posted - 2012.11.18 05:46:00 -
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Andreus Ixiris wrote:Impressive work.
Now let's see if you can hold it.
I think the State will first need to make a credible effort to retake it. So far they aren't doing so well. |
Natalcya Katla
Naqam Shaktipat Revelators
39
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Posted - 2012.11.18 06:32:00 -
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Gussarde en Welle wrote:I hate pictures. I look better in person. You changed it, I see. That's much better.
I have to say, though, that you still fit our recruitment criteria as imagined by yourself. Most people would, however, so don't let that get to you. |
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Gussarde en Welle
Fruidian Logic The Volition Cult
75
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Posted - 2012.11.18 06:46:00 -
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Natalcya Katla wrote:Gussarde en Welle wrote:I hate pictures. I look better in person. You changed it, I see. That's much better. I have to say, though, that you still fit our recruitment criteria as imagined by yourself. Most people would, however, so don't let that get to you.
Well, I'm certainly not for everyone, but I don't claim to be.
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Scylus Black
Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry Templis Dragonaors
9
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Posted - 2013.01.09 03:41:00 -
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Deen Wispa wrote:If ILF and other residents of Intaki wish to see more prosperity than they ever witnessed under the Caldari regime, please get in touch with Justified Chaos. We will make you an offer you cannot refuse.
Where is your blog girlfriend!!!!
Scylus Black - Director of Public Relations Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry http://www.caldaridefense.com/ A Drinking Corp with a Faction Warfare Problem Scylus Black - Director of Public Relations Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry http://www.caldaridefense.com/ A Drinking Corp with a Faction Warfare Problem
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Simon Louvaki
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
9
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Posted - 2013.01.09 04:26:00 -
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What I find most disturbing is the prevalence of 'Situational Democracy' in the Federation. A great deal of Intaki have been pandering for independence for quite some time now. Why, if the Federation believes in liberty and democracy do they simply not allow the Intaki self-determination? If the Intaki don't want your help, why do you keep moving in and 'restoring order'. Lets even pretend that the ludicrous accusations about ILP being Caldari puppets was true, if the majority of Intaki were behind joining with the State, if the people wanted that, isn't the Federations Democratic duty to ablidge? "Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu." |
Andreus Ixiris
Mixed Metaphor
1531
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Posted - 2013.01.09 06:07:00 -
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Oh, look, the thread necromancer's loose again. And, oh look, someone's making deeply uneducated criticisms of the Federation.
Again.
Simon Louvaki wrote:What I find most disturbing is the prevalence of 'Situational Democracy' in the Federation. A great deal of Intaki have been pandering for independence for quite some time now. Why, if the Federation believes in liberty and democracy do they simply not allow the Intaki self-determination?
Seccessionalists have always been a minority on Intaki, and it should be noted that any citizen of the Federation who no longer wishes to live in the Federation is under no obligation to stay. Unless the citizen is a criminal, is smuggling contraband across international borders or has unsettled financial liabilities, Federation Customs will almost never stop someone from leaving the country.
What a citizen has absolutely no right to do is take his planet with him when he decides to leave the Federation, especially if the majority of its citizens wish to stay.
Simon Louvaki wrote:If the Intaki don't want your help, why do you keep moving in and 'restoring order'.
Because Intaki is a Federal territory, and it's often under attack by an invading military force. Mane 614
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Caellach Marellus
Aideron Technologies
725
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Posted - 2013.01.09 06:08:00 -
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Last I checked the news reports, it wasn't a "great deal". It was a minority, albeit a vocal one.
Of course, if you've anything to contradict such claims. Enjoy your gaming.
http://northern-goblin.blogspot.com |
Simon Louvaki
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
9
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Posted - 2013.01.09 06:58:00 -
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Andreus Ixiris wrote:Oh, look, the thread necromancer's loose again. And, oh look, someone's making deeply uneducated criticisms of the Federation. Again. Simon Louvaki wrote:What I find most disturbing is the prevalence of 'Situational Democracy' in the Federation. A great deal of Intaki have been pandering for independence for quite some time now. Why, if the Federation believes in liberty and democracy do they simply not allow the Intaki self-determination? Seccessionalists have always been a minority on Intaki, and it should be noted that any citizen of the Federation who no longer wishes to live in the Federation is under no obligation to stay. Unless the citizen is a criminal, is smuggling contraband across international borders or has unsettled financial liabilities, Federation Customs will almost never stop someone from leaving the country. What a citizen has absolutely no right to do is take his planet with him when he decides to leave the Federation, especially if the majority of its citizens wish to stay. Simon Louvaki wrote:If the Intaki don't want your help, why do you keep moving in and 'restoring order'. Because Intaki is a Federal territory, and it's often under attack by an invading military force.
"Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu." |
Andreus Ixiris
Mixed Metaphor
1531
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Posted - 2013.01.09 07:41:00 -
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Simon Louvaki wrote:Oh look, another rabid Federalist with an even more off putting and belligerent comment. Far be it for someone to criticize the perfection that is the Gallente Federation. Truly, I'm surprised you can even see us outsiders over your own nose.
Actually, I'm not a "rabid" Federalist, and I often criticise elements of the Federation I find to be lacking. The fact that you would instantly assume such a thing about me simply because I dared to correct you on some aspects of your argument which were factually incorrect suggests that my inferences regarding your lack of understanding were entirely justified.
Simon Louvaki wrote:*Secessionists* have been a rather outgoing and active group, if their not the majority then the opposition should certainly speak up.
And right off the bat, you prove that I was right. The entire point of a "vocal minority" is that their tendency to be vocal causes them to receive a disproportionately large amount of attention, whereas the majority - and it might be relevant at this point to introduce you to the term "silent majority" - receive a disproportionately small amount of attention because they do nothing to attract it. In terms you may be able to more clearly grasp - they don't have a problem, and so they aren't complaining. You don't need to lobby or protest for a continuance of the status quo - that's why it's a status quo.
Simon Louvaki wrote:It'd would have been nice if the Federation showed that much interest in the Intaki before the outbreak of hostilities, rather than after. They seemed alright to let pirates and vagrants ravage the system before it became a military zone of interest and the Caldari began lending their support to the secessionist movement.
The Federation's founding charter requires that it give the Intaki Assembly and its child colonies a fairly vast degree of autonomy and self-determination in terms of military presence and political oversight. The Assembly has never petitioned the Federal government to have the charter revised to increase Intaki's security. As for your characterisation of pirates "ravaging" Intaki, that's simply laughable - the pirate presence in Intaki space is no more significant than the pirate presence in any other low-sec system, and it was one of the best-defended during the initial Sansha invasions, such that there were no confirmed abductions during either of the incursions. In terms of baseliner commerce (which, to the baseliners, matters a lot more than capsuleer commerce), Intaki is one of the most prosperous systems in the Federation, and probably one of the most prosperous low-security systems in New Eden period.
I should note that for all their cynical attempts to foment discontent among Federal citizens, the State hasn't made the system safer and neither has Mordu's Legion, whose sole purpose for being in Intaki is to protect it. Mane 614
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Katrina Oniseki
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
1058
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Posted - 2013.01.09 07:52:00 -
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Andreus Ixiris wrote:And, oh look, someone's making deeply uneducated criticisms of the Federation.
Simon Louvaki wrote: Oh look, another rabid Federalist with an even more off putting and belligerent comment.
Oh look! This argument again! |
Atlas Zao-tsu
University of Caille Gallente Federation
10
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Posted - 2013.01.09 09:57:00 -
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Katrina Oniseki wrote:[quote=Andreus Ixiris]
Oh look! This argument again!
If certain people understood how demographics worked, we wouldn't need to have this argument at all.
That said, if the Intaki system really wanted to go, I say let them. There's a homeworld that isn't pulling it's weight, I'll say that much. |
Simon Louvaki
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
9
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Posted - 2013.01.09 20:11:00 -
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Andreus Ixiris wrote:
Actually, I'm not a "rabid" Federalist and I often criticise elements of the Federation I find to be lacking.
Then it's unfortunate you chose to speak in such an insulting manner. Perhaps had you simply omitted your initial line then I wouldn't have had to to that conclusion. Of cource, the first thing you did was to come in and accuse me of being deeply uneducated then assume to take the intellectual high ground..yeah, your completely justified in your own ignorant inferences. Forgive me sir.
I'll bow out not, and leave the field to you. "Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu." |
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John Revenent
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
229
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Posted - 2013.01.10 00:40:00 -
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Federation or State control it does not matter business continues as usual. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. |
Commissar Veldt
Progressive State State Section 9
26
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Posted - 2013.01.10 11:55:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote:Lesbian exile Yuri Intaki
Perhaps this explains why my sexual advances towards Yuri fell on deaf ears...
Thank you for clearing this up for me XG.
Do you think it would be possible to arrange a meeting for me with Princess Nexala? She is hetrosexual isnt she? She certainly looks it. Of course this meeting would have to be planetside. Im afraid if I try to give her the sweet talk in local comms channels I might get shot down... Literally.
Tell her Im pretty rich...
...and really really ridiculously good looking |
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