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Kismeteer
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.11.13 14:53:00 -
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Here is how I run Eve with Ubuntu 12.04 Desktop. Please note that I assume you got your video card working, as those are somewhat different depending on your card. Installing eve itself is pretty easy with wine, just download the install executable, and run it from your desktop. I recommend the full version.
- Install the wine PPA for the latest version: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-wine
- Do an apt update, I use aptitude to do this: sudo aptitude update
- Remove all versions of wine: sudo aptitude search wine # Look for i in the first column and do aptitude remove on those
- Install wine1.5 and winetricks: sudo aptitude install wine1.5 winetricks # if this fails, install via Synaptic Package Manager
- While that is running, setup a shell script to start eve, I use: /usr/bin/env WINEPREFIX="$HOME/.wine" DISPLAY=":0.0" /usr/bin/aoss wine explorer /desktop=eve1,1024x768 "C:\Games\CCP\EVE\eve.exe" #Note the low resolution here
- If you want a secondary eve instance to play at the same time: /usr/bin/env WINEPREFIX="$HOME/.wine" DISPLAY=":0.0" /usr/bin/aoss wine explorer /desktop=eve2,1024x768 "C:\Games\CCP\EVE\eve.exe" # Note the 'eve2'
- Once the install is done, run your shell script to start eve.
Optional tricks that previous versions needed:
- On the EULA, wait for it to load, some people have reported crashes by messing with it early.
- Install winetricks hack for d3dx9_36: winetricks d3dx9_36 # Note you run this as yourself, not root
- Run winecfg to enable builtin versus native libraries as necessary. Common ones I have had to deal with: msvcr90, msxml3, msvcr100, msvcr80, msvcr90, msvcrt I was able to remove all of these builtin/native mess of libraries with wine 1.5.
Please, if you have comments/additions, please let me know.
If you want something to cut/paste to set all this up for you:
Quote: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-wine sudo aptitude update #sudo aptitude remove wine wine1.2 wine1.3 wine1.4 wine1.5 sudo aptitude install wine1.5 winetricks mkdir -p ~/bin echo '/usr/bin/env WINEPREFIX="$HOME/.wine" DISPLAY=":0.0" /usr/bin/aoss wine explorer /desktop=eve1,1024x768 "C:\Games\CCP\EVE\eve.exe"' >~/bin/eve1 echo '/usr/bin/env WINEPREFIX="$HOME/.wine" DISPLAY=":0.0" /usr/bin/aoss wine explorer /desktop=eve2,1024x768 "C:\Games\CCP\EVE\eve.exe"' >~/bin/eve2 echo '/usr/bin/env WINEPREFIX="$HOME/.wine" DISPLAY=":0.0" /usr/bin/aoss wine explorer /desktop=eve3,1024x768 "C:\Games\CCP\EVE\eve.exe"' >~/bin/eve3 echo Run 'eve1' to run your first instance of eve.
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Tarn Kugisa
Infinite Covenant Tribal Band
166
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Posted - 2012.11.23 11:06:00 -
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Kismeteer wrote:Here is how I run Eve with Ubuntu 12.04 Desktop. Please note that I assume you got your video card working, as those are somewhat different depending on your card. Installing eve itself is pretty easy with wine, just download the install executable, and run it from your desktop. I recommend the full version.
- Install the wine PPA for the latest version: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-wine
- Do an apt update, I use aptitude to do this: sudo aptitude update
- Remove all versions of wine: sudo aptitude search wine # Look for i in the first column and do aptitude remove on those
- Install wine1.5 and winetricks: sudo aptitude install wine1.5 winetricks # if this fails, install via Synaptic Package Manager
- While that is running, setup a shell script to start eve, I use: /usr/bin/env WINEPREFIX="$HOME/.wine" DISPLAY=":0.0" /usr/bin/aoss wine explorer /desktop=eve1,1024x768 "C:\Games\CCP\EVE\eve.exe" #Note the low resolution here
- If you want a secondary eve instance to play at the same time: /usr/bin/env WINEPREFIX="$HOME/.wine" DISPLAY=":0.0" /usr/bin/aoss wine explorer /desktop=eve2,1024x768 "C:\Games\CCP\EVE\eve.exe" # Note the 'eve2'
- Once the install is done, run your shell script to start eve.
Optional tricks that previous versions needed:
- On the EULA, wait for it to load, some people have reported crashes by messing with it early.
- Install winetricks hack for d3dx9_36: winetricks d3dx9_36 # Note you run this as yourself, not root
- Run winecfg to enable builtin versus native libraries as necessary. Common ones I have had to deal with: msvcr90, msxml3, msvcr100, msvcr80, msvcr90, msvcrt I was able to remove all of these builtin/native mess of libraries with wine 1.5.
Please, if you have comments/additions, please let me know. If you want something to cut/paste to set all this up for you: Quote: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-wine sudo aptitude update #sudo aptitude remove wine wine1.2 wine1.3 wine1.4 wine1.5 sudo aptitude install wine1.5 winetricks mkdir -p ~/bin echo '/usr/bin/env WINEPREFIX="$HOME/.wine" DISPLAY=":0.0" /usr/bin/aoss wine explorer /desktop=eve1,1024x768 "C:\Games\CCP\EVE\eve.exe"' >~/bin/eve1 echo '/usr/bin/env WINEPREFIX="$HOME/.wine" DISPLAY=":0.0" /usr/bin/aoss wine explorer /desktop=eve2,1024x768 "C:\Games\CCP\EVE\eve.exe"' >~/bin/eve2 echo '/usr/bin/env WINEPREFIX="$HOME/.wine" DISPLAY=":0.0" /usr/bin/aoss wine explorer /desktop=eve3,1024x768 "C:\Games\CCP\EVE\eve.exe"' >~/bin/eve3 echo Run 'eve1' to run your first instance of eve.
I Endorse this Product and/or Service Source Recorder-esque tool for EVE |
Kismeteer
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
197
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Posted - 2012.12.10 15:16:00 -
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Please note that wine is currently up to 1.5.19 in this setup, and they are continuing to update it. I'll keep mine up to date and note any problems I have, just in case they get a little too aggressive in updating it. |
Mr M
Agony Unleashed
203
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Posted - 2012.12.11 04:07:00 -
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Kismeteer wrote:
- Remove all versions of wine: sudo aptitude search wine # Look for i in the first column and do aptitude remove on those
Quote:# aptitude search ~iwine This lists all installed packages with wine in the name.
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Waruiko
EVE University Ivy League
0
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Posted - 2012.12.13 19:56:00 -
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I tried doing this an hit issues here
" sudo aptitude update sudo: aptitude: command not found " |
After Shok
Ruthenia Co
49
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Posted - 2012.12.13 21:31:00 -
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aptitude is a front-end to the Advanced Packaging Tool (APT) - need install separately - sudo apt-get install aptitude -ƒ-Ç-¦-¦-¦-+-¦ -+-¦-+-î-+-Å -+-ü-¦-+-Ç-¦-+-é-î, -â-¦-¦-¦-¦-¦-+-ï-¦ -¦-¦-¦-+-¦-¦-é! -¬ -ó-+-é -ü-¦-+-ï-¦ -£-Ä-+-à-¦-¦-â-+-¦-+ |
Waruiko
EVE University Ivy League
0
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Posted - 2012.12.13 21:52:00 -
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Well I didn't get any errors running that series, but I'm still missing something because I can't get EVE installed let alone running. |
Peri Simone
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
77
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Posted - 2012.12.14 20:25:00 -
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Yesterday I had to reinstall Ubuntu from scratch, so here's what I did to get Eve running again - might help, might not.
(Disclaimer: I only use Wine for Eve, I only ever run a single client, and I know practically nothing of the theory behind what I'm doing.)
1. Go here, and follow the instructions "Adding the WineHQ PPA Repository" and "Installing Wine". Install the Wine 1.5 beta package.
2. Open a terminal and paste the following:
winetricks corefonts d3dx9_36 vcrun2005 vcrun2008 vcrun2010
(I don't know if this is still necessary, I did it anyway).
3. Download the Eve Windows installer from here.
4. Run it. It should pop up in Wine, and takes a while to install. Go away and come back later. When the EULA window appears it will be blank for about 5-10 minutes. Don't panic.
5. In the Settings / Graphics menu, untick "Load Station Environment" to stop Captain's Quarters from trying to appear. You can safely retick this later on if you want to spin your ship around inside a station. For now, leave it unticked.
6. Theoretically, as of this date, Eve should now work. If it doesn't I've probably missed something vital, but fingers crossed. |
Waruiko
EVE University Ivy League
0
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Posted - 2012.12.14 23:20:00 -
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Ran into problems running the .exe
I think right clicking and selecting wine fixed it tough. I'll get back to you.
Thanks though. |
Peri Simone
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
78
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Posted - 2012.12.15 12:01:00 -
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Good start. Try lowering all the graphics settings from the log in screen as much as you can, ie:
Anti-aliasing: Disabled Post Processing: None Shader Quality: Low Texture Quality: Low LOD Quality: Low Shadow Quality: Low Interior Effects: Low Interior Shader Quality: Low
If it's playable with those settings you can start increasing them again until you find a happy middle ground between working and looking good. |
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Waruiko
EVE University Ivy League
0
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Posted - 2012.12.15 15:51:00 -
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I set all graphic settings to low or off and while my curser is no longer lagging everything on the start screen is still rendered weird. It's almost like all the objects were built of obsidian. Beyond that logging in still freezes the client up and I need to force wine closed.
I should have no issues running at full settings anyway. I'll go hunting for my specs. I think I might have something wrong with wine. |
Hosedna
FumbleFamily Corp
12
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Posted - 2012.12.15 16:20:00 -
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Have you installed the proprietary drivers for your graph card ? |
Waruiko
EVE University Ivy League
0
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Posted - 2012.12.15 17:08:00 -
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I'm going to assume no. This is he first system Ive owned that isn't windows, more over I'm use to that sort of thing happening on it's own.
my rig uses these (transcribed from someone else handwriting)
Ivy Bridge 3.4 GHz Quad Core
Gigabyte GA-Z77-UP4 TH LGA Intel Z77
4x Patriot Intel Extreme Master DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) timing 9-9-9-24 Cas Lat 9
(1) Seagate Baracuda Green STD 1500DL003 1.5 TB 5900 RPM SATA [currently unused] (2) Transcend SSD320 256GB SATA III Solid State Drive [in use]
750W Thermal take
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Daisai
The Riot Formation Unclaimed.
47
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Posted - 2012.12.16 16:53:00 -
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Perhapse this guide is a bit outdated because when using the command : sudo aptitude update It doesnt work since there is no such command. |
Peri Simone
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
80
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Posted - 2012.12.16 21:00:00 -
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Good point, Hosedna. If you haven't installed the proprietary drivers for your graphics card you'll need to do that.
There's a good article here that might help with this, and also suggests some other things to do in order to get the most out of Ubuntu.
Additional reading:
http://www.unixmen.com/201204-top-things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu-2/ http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/04/10-things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu-12-04 |
Waruiko
EVE University Ivy League
0
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Posted - 2012.12.17 07:13:00 -
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Got some useful stuff from those links, but nothing that will get eve running right. my drivers also seem updated, though I don't have a separate graphics card right now. |
Peri Simone
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
81
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Posted - 2012.12.17 14:39:00 -
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I guess this the cause of the problem. Minimum/recommended system requirements for running Eve are here. |
Waruiko
EVE University Ivy League
0
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Posted - 2012.12.17 17:08:00 -
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well i guess i might need a dedicated card then. I had hoped the built in bits would work without because of all the ram, bit I guess not... |
After Shok
Ruthenia Co
50
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Posted - 2012.12.17 19:14:00 -
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glxinfo | grep shading OpenGL shading language version string: 4.20
minimun version 3 -ƒ-Ç-¦-¦-¦-+-¦ -+-¦-+-î-+-Å -+-ü-¦-+-Ç-¦-+-é-î, -â-¦-¦-¦-¦-¦-+-ï-¦ -¦-¦-¦-+-¦-¦-é! -¬ -ó-+-é -ü-¦-+-ï-¦ -£-Ä-+-à-¦-¦-â-+-¦-+ |
Nebu Retski
Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire
30
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Posted - 2012.12.18 11:55:00 -
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Waruiko wrote:well i guess i might need a dedicated card then. You're graphics card is most likely powerfull enough to run eve, just not on Linux due to the drivers not being properly implemented yet. I've had the same issue with my onboard intel graphics card on my laptop. The game runs in windows ok-ish, but can't start on Linux.
Waruiko wrote:I had hoped the built in bits would work without because of all the ram, bit I guess not...
That's not how computers work. RAM only allows more data to be stored in a fast access mode (compared to accessing it from the HD), but if you don't have a good processor/graphics card that can handle that data fast, then it doesn't matter if you can store more data in the fast buffer.
Technically it is possible to store the entire eve client in RAM (if you have enough of it) which could reduce some of the loading times due to less access to the HD, but the performance of the client will still be limited to the power of the CPU and graphics card (+ interface bandwidths, ...).
If you want to play eve on Linux it is definately recommended to have a dedicated graphics card, but it is not required. It all depends on how much work you want to put into getting it to run properly. There is a lot more development done on NVIDIA and ATI linux drivers than on intel graphics drivers. Before you would go out and buy a graphics card you should do some research into what graphics card would be a good choice (performance/$, budget) and what operating system you will mostly be using. My personal preference is to stick to NVIDIA cards mostly because based on my 'personal forum dwelling experience' it looks like NVIDIA tend to have less issues on Linux (and eve on Linux) than ATI. Just don't take this as NVIDIA is THE ONLY way to go, really check on forums, ask people what their opinions are and ONLY THEN make an educated decision! |
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Kismeteer
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
200
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Posted - 2012.12.18 15:43:00 -
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Daisai wrote:Perhapse this guide is a bit outdated because when using the command : sudo aptitude update It doesnt work since there is no such command.
Aptitude is an apt front end that makes your life a little easier by handling the exceptions.
Try: apt-get install aptitude
Otherwise, you can use the Ubuntu software manager to do those steps, as that might be a bit easier for you. I just tried to present a command line version. I should have used apt-get, but I didn't want to get into dealing with the exceptions you can run into with apt-get. |
Waruiko
EVE University Ivy League
0
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Posted - 2012.12.18 19:04:00 -
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I had hoped to get it running now and buy my graphics card later is all. Well I guess I'll play with it a it more and see if I can get it to work right. I've got it working enough to change skills, even if everything in the hanger is pitch black and everything in space is eye-bleed white. Now that I change skills getting this working is less pressing. |
Nebu Retski
Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire
30
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Posted - 2012.12.18 20:45:00 -
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Waruiko wrote:even if everything in the hanger is pitch black and everything in space is eye-bleed white Try to install the s3tc library and driconf (maybe, but check on ubuntu forums if is doesn't work ->sudo apt-get install s3tc driconf) then run driconf (I think) from the command line. It should put up a GUI, then find the option to turn on s3tc.
I did it over a year ago so I'm not sure if it still works though.
old forum post |
After Shok
Ruthenia Co
52
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Posted - 2012.12.18 21:03:00 -
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Waruiko - what drivers version are installed ?
to see what video card installed- lspci | grep VGA 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Cayman PRO [AMD Radeon 6900 Series]
all devices lscpi
for ATI - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI for NVIDIA - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
or - search in google - how to install proprietary driver for your video card . -ƒ-Ç-¦-¦-¦-+-¦ -+-¦-+-î-+-Å -+-ü-¦-+-Ç-¦-+-é-î, -â-¦-¦-¦-¦-¦-+-ï-¦ -¦-¦-¦-+-¦-¦-é! -¬ -ó-+-é -ü-¦-+-ï-¦ -£-Ä-+-à-¦-¦-â-+-¦-+ |
Waruiko
EVE University Ivy League
0
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Posted - 2012.12.18 21:28:00 -
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lspci | grep VGA turns up: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Ivy Bridge Graphics Controller (rev 09)
sudo apt-get install s3tc driconf gets me this:
Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done E: Unable to locate package s3tc |
Nebu Retski
Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire
30
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Posted - 2012.12.18 23:53:00 -
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Waruiko wrote:E: Unable to locate package s3tc mmh ok if you plan to keep using linux for more than browsing the web or using libreoffice, it a good idea to learn the skill to learn to google your problems, because I don't know by heart how to fix every issue (neither do most other people) but I simply google stuff.
As for the s3tc libraries I did find this |
Waruiko
EVE University Ivy League
0
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Posted - 2012.12.19 01:15:00 -
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Yeah well I've tried to learn this stuff ad figure it out on my own but without a good understanding of basic console commands stuff like what you puled up reads as gibberish to me. I've tried to take classes on that too but the teachers good teachers just want to be done with you and the bad ones just like to lord their knowledge. I keep asking because the solution seems to be 'buy a 200ish video card' that I can't really afford for another month or two and I don't want to waste that time if I can help it. I don't think my vast understanding of the 'man' command and conceptual understanding of what VIM is will help me solve this problem. I keep posting in the hopes that this is both a standard problem with someone knowing a standard solution, and to learn through exposure. If I wasn't wiling to put in the effort I'd just have installed windows.
Th whole experience is more frustrating then expected though I'll admit that. |
Nebu Retski
Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire
30
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Posted - 2012.12.19 10:49:00 -
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Waruiko wrote:I've tried to take classes on that too but the teachers good teachers just want to be done with you and the bad ones just like to lord their knowledge. Classes generally don't help that much. Practice helps way more, you have to look for issues and just set yourself to fix it or find something that you would like on your computer and set out to make it so (particular desktop, particular services, ...).
Waruiko wrote:Yeah well I've tried to learn this stuff ad figure it out on my own but without a good understanding of basic console commands stuff like what you puled up reads as gibberish to me. * snip * I don't want to waste that time if I can help it. I don't think my vast understanding of the 'man' command and conceptual understanding of what VIM is will help me solve this problem. I keep posting in the hopes that this is both a standard problem with someone knowing a standard solution, and to learn through exposure. If I wasn't wiling to put in the effort I'd just have installed windows.
Th whole experience is more frustrating then expected though I'll admit that. You require more practice and reading , but in al seriousness, I understand that most of that is gibberish to you, but it's better for you to go through the gibberish and try to dissect the various solutions. Look up the parts that are proposed in the solutions that you don't understand. When you totally can't figure it out then you ask questions related to the part(s) you wanted to follow but you didn't understand. Unfortunately the learning process always involves "wasting" time by making mistakes and occasionally getting frustrated.
The problem you discribed is (or at least used to be) a standard problem that I had to deal with when I started playing eve and I fixed it with the solution I proposed to you, so try the following: sudo apt-get install libtxc-dxtn driconf driconf then find the enable s3tc_texture_compression option somewhere and tick it.
If you get the error that libtxc-dxtn or driconf can't be found in the repositories then it could mean that the packages have a different name than I posted here (different distro's sometimes give slightly different names to packages). Either figure out how to do proper package searching through apt-get or use the synaptic package manager which you can launch somewhere from the main menu. Personally I would go for the synaptic approach because it's very easy to search and find the package you want/need and install it at the same time. (I hope synaptic still exists or that there is a replacement)
Waruiko wrote:I keep asking because the solution seems to be 'buy a 200ish video card' that I can't really afford for another month or two and Easier ways tend to come at a price but seeing as your computer can run eve I'm somewhat confident that the fix I proposed should do the trick.
ps: "wasting" time trying to fix an issue on linux is rarely a true waste of time, |
Brink Albosa
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
3
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Posted - 2012.12.19 19:13:00 -
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Peri Simone wrote:Yesterday I had to reinstall Ubuntu from scratch, so here's what I did to get Eve running again - might help, might not. (Disclaimer: I only use Wine for Eve, I only ever run a single client, and I know practically nothing of the theory behind what I'm doing.) 1. Go here, and follow the instructions "Adding the WineHQ PPA Repository" and "Installing Wine". Install the Wine 1.5 beta package. 2. Open a terminal and paste the following: winetricks corefonts d3dx9_36 vcrun2005 vcrun2008 vcrun2010(I don't know if this is still necessary, I did it anyway). 3. Download the Eve Windows installer from here. 4. Run it. It should pop up in Wine, and takes a while to install. Go away and come back later. When the EULA window appears it will be blank for about 5-10 minutes. Don't panic. 5. In the Settings / Graphics menu, untick "Load Station Environment" to stop Captain's Quarters from trying to appear. You can safely retick this later on if you want to spin your ship around inside a station. For now, leave it unticked. 6. Theoretically, as of this date, Eve should now work. If it doesn't I've probably missed something vital, but fingers crossed.
I got it to work!!
In winecfg I set up under Applications > Add application... EveFile.exe Then under libraries I added *mscvr100 (bulletin, native) *mscvr90 (bulletin, native) d3dx9_36 (native)
I also did the part that Peri said, winetricks corefonts d3dx9_36 vcrun2005 vcrun2008 vcrun2010
I never did update my drivers. (Thought I did) So I did circles and circles trying to figure out what the Hell I did wrong. I've got this set up on my backup laptop and it's got an integrated AMD card. |
Waruiko
EVE University Ivy League
0
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Posted - 2013.01.03 23:02:00 -
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Well how about that I got a Radeon HD 7870 as a gift and it looks like a it'll run eve if I'm reading the box right, but it doesn't seem to want to work. I've got the card in my system and everything seems to be working ok, but I can't get the login to display. The launcher is running fine and it does it's check for update stuff, but when I hit the play button I get a message that the program had to be closed because of a 'serious error' and it won't even tell me what it is thats wrong... at least not in plain language. I can't makes heads or tails of the error info in when I ask for it.
I've not had any luck tracking down how to fix this myself so far. If this gives me too much more trouble I'll likely just wipe and reinstall. I'll need to just to get back to my botched display if I can't fix this in the next week or two to change skills if nothing else.
maybe I'll try to figure out how to do both windows and ubuntu so I can just boot into windows when I want to play and into ubuntu for everything else. That feels like giving up though. |
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