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FluffyDice
Northstar Cabal Fatal Ascension
250
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Posted - 2012.12.26 01:58:00 -
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I'm fine with name changes if there were to be a tab next to corp history called aliases. Old names can't be re used by new characters and name changes incur a fee. Any in game connections like links, searches or contacts automatically redirect to the new name.
Implementing this wouldn't be too difficult, and as far as consequences go, just google their old names as well when recruiting. If there is a worry of this being used too often put it on a timer like a remap as well as the fee. |
Alexis Machine
2
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Posted - 2012.12.26 02:44:00 -
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I say no. Then again, I don't think you should be allowed to purchase characters to begin with.
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Duke Atreus
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.01.11 05:55:00 -
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I would love to have a name change on a character I bought.
He had the perfect skill set I was after with the limited ISK I had but my OCD got the best of me and I can't play him anymore: Tr3jo
Who the hell puts a 3 for an e???
I don't care if people can see I used to be tr3jo in some sort of character history but I would give almost anything to have a new name. Plus you'd get +1 subscription *wink wink*
Edit: You know what? I'd pay to have my name stay the same for everyone else but show up as whatever I choose for me. |
Veronica Kerrigan
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
59
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Posted - 2013.01.11 06:03:00 -
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I see an issue with being able to change name in that over the course of a few years, if I changed my name there could be a hundred "Veronica Kerrigan"s, and while I would be terribly flattered, it would be horribly confusing if oyu were trying to get a person into a private chat, or use eve mail to contact them. Would there be a notification sent out to everyone who added you as a contact? Would your old name be locked so no one else could take it, making past aliases permanent? |
Ascendic
Macabre Votum Northern Coalition.
99
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Posted - 2013.01.11 06:18:00 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:I've always wondered how the player base would feel about this. I'm not too keen on the idea of a name change personally, unless there was a one click ability to see all past names and aliases. Even then, I still have very mixed feelings about it. On one hand a name change might be useful for people who've bought a character on the Character Bazaar and love the skill set but not the name, on the other hand your name is your identity and reputation in EVE and the prospect of being able to wipe the slate clean if you do something wrong isn't my particular cup of tea. I'll be interested to see how this thread develops though, some valid points made already
IMO as soon as a character has been sold he is no longer who he was. Therefore it should be treated like an identity wipe and a fresh start. Whatever he did before doesn't matter.
The only problem with this is spies would just rebuy their toons with different accounts to wipe their history |
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
625
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Posted - 2013.01.11 08:02:00 -
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DeBingJos wrote:No, reputation is important in EVE. If you want an unknown character, start a new one.
Clearly not as important as money is to CCP, or you wouldn't be able to sell that all important rep.
From: Tommas De'Wins To: Cipher Jones Dude :) I got massives Basi hahahahahahaha |
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
625
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Posted - 2013.01.11 08:05:00 -
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Also, and I should have mentioned this first, posting in another 10/10 Tom Gerard troll thread.
It's more fun the WB. From: Tommas De'Wins To: Cipher Jones Dude :) I got massives Basi hahahahahahaha |
kes88
Swords of Persephone
9
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Posted - 2013.01.11 09:41:00 -
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Renier Gaden wrote:CCP Falcon wrote:I've always wondered how the player base would feel about this. I'm not too keen on the idea of a name change personally, unless there was a one click ability to see all past names and aliases. Even then, I still have very mixed feelings about it. On one hand a name change might be useful for people who've bought a character on the Character Bazaar and love the skill set but not the name, on the other hand your name is your identity and reputation in EVE and the prospect of being able to wipe the slate clean if you do something wrong isn't my particular cup of tea. I'll be interested to see how this thread develops though, some valid points made already I favour the ability to change names based on the percentage of really bad or stupid names in EVE. I get the impression that many characters in EVE were created by people in a hurry to get started who did not want to waist time trying to come up with a good name that was not already taken. I give props to people who took the time to make cool names such as Tinker Hell, and Large Collidable Object. I took the easy route and just picked a normal sounding name. I like the idea of having a name history though. While I would like to see people be able to change their names, I donGÇÖt favour giving them the ability to wipe the slate clean. I also think that the transfer of a character to a different account should be recorded in that characterGÇÖs corp history. That way if you buy a Corp Thief, you can show that your character was purchased after the infamous events. Edit: Actually, the name change should probably be recorded in the Corp History too, as that is where people look to determine the history of the character.
I HATE MY NAME.
I didn't buy my char, I built it. I was coming back to Eve after a break, couldn't remember my old password, or even email address for the account or anything so set up an entirely new character. After about 20 attempts with names I actually wanted being taken already, I ended up just typing crap into the box just so I could get on with it.
I'm not a corp thief, or a scammer. I didn't buy my char, and nor do I want to erase the corp history. I just want to change my ******* name!
Spent this long wondering to myself why I didn't put a bloody capital at the beginning and actually THINK of a last name. I don't need anybody to tell me 'Oh well, you should have thought of that at time' and 'live with the consequences' since I already know and I already do. Still hate my name.
To top it all off I was informed by some guy in local that the 88 in my name was some kind of indication that I was a ****. In fact it indicates my birth year, but now I want to change my name even more.
I would happily pay. But due to all the issues mentioned in negative of this proposal, I doubt it will be implemented. Furthermore, I think it's all well and good not to want name changes possible, but I'm pretty sure those who advocate that position are happy with their names.
TLDR PLEASE LET ME CHANGE MY NAME. WILL PAY GOOD MONEY.
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Fanatic Row
DED Drug Enforcement Department
1
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Posted - 2013.01.11 11:31:00 -
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Why does every service have to be paid?
As if EVE wasn't already the most expensive MMO on the market; how about CCP give us some free quality of life services? |
Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
214
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Posted - 2013.01.11 11:31:00 -
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Yes, 88 can stand for HH, which stands for Heil [enter a WW2 name of someone who was a nut case]. My resists to bad posts are 78-89-83-90 ....... The metal head plate increased it by 5%.
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Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
1003
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Posted - 2013.01.11 11:37:00 -
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I don't mind. So long as there is a long(1-2yr) interval between being able to use, and costs a decent amount(~$30). Also corp history would remain, but just add in NAME CHANGED FROM X to Y on XX.XX.XXXX in the history.
However depending on the success of Dust naming is going to be a issue, since CCP had the bright idea of merging the nameserver of a single shard MMO with a F2P FPS. |
Cutter Isaacson
Nouvelle Rouvenor
2270
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Posted - 2013.01.11 11:44:00 -
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March rabbit wrote:CCP Falcon wrote:I've always wondered how the player base would feel about this. I'm not too keen on the idea of a name change personally, unless there was a one click ability to see all past names and aliases. Even then, I still have very mixed feelings about it. On one hand a name change might be useful for people who've bought a character on the Character Bazaar and love the skill set but not the name, on the other hand your name is your identity and reputation in EVE and the prospect of being able to wipe the slate clean if you do something wrong isn't my particular cup of tea. I'll be interested to see how this thread develops though, some valid points made already i think this could be useful for many people. When i buy new char i can't be sure i know enough about his past. I don't care TBH. Let's say you buy character. You don't need his name or appearance, you don't get his assets and ISK (unless previous owner didn't care about it), you don't care about his past. Mostly you want only skillset. So the solution(s): 1) Clear it all, mark character as "bought" and born with date of transfer (this could be visible somewhere but will not interfere with new name and history like it does stupid mark WANTED). So you can live with it as it is your character from start. If somebody wants to check your character he just checks his birthday and sees: char was bought. No history remains. New owner. You either trust PERSON controlling this char or you don't. It's up to you. 2) Place "pre-buy" history/name/whatever to some "backseat" place like additional button in window "character info". Owner can ignore this area. And when someone too paranoid checks this char he can have access to all information he needs. I have one character i've bought mostly for jump freighter needs. I really never checked his past. Only seen once in eve-kill that he got caught with some JF somewhere in 0.0. Maybe it is why char was sold? I don't care. Anything what could happen with this char has no connection to me (i mean PERSON). Once again: we talk here about SPACE PIXELS. Characters don't do s..t itself. Some REAL person does it. Character is asset like ship. Yes for some "RP-like" people characters mean something. But in reality you never can trust any character. You only can trust PERSON controlling this char. And this information isn't a part of char employment history. Add here account sharing (illegal but used very often) and you have even less trust to character.
Scam artist/Corp thief wrote:Oh no, I have scammed and stolen billions and now I can't do anything because people don't trust me OH!! I know!! I'll just sell myself to.....myself. Then I can wipe out all my wrong doings in one go and start all over again without losing any of my skills etc. etc. ad infinitum.
The above scenario was brought to you by people wanting zero consequences for their in-game actions.
tl;dr Name change etc. is a bad idea, don't do it CCP.
"The truth is usually just an excuse for a lack of imagination." Elim Garak.
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Tom Gerard
Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan
752
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Posted - 2013.01.11 11:49:00 -
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Fanatic Row wrote:Why does every service have to be paid? As if EVE wasn't already the most expensive MMO on the market; how about CCP give us some free quality of life services?
EVE paid is $ 10.99/month one of the cheapest subs out there.
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Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
13461
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Posted - 2013.01.11 11:52:00 -
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Fanatic Row wrote:Why does every service have to be paid? As if EVE wasn't already the most expensive MMO on the market; how about CCP give us some free quality of life services? You really need to look at prices first, before making such a claim.
CCP Zulu..... Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |
RaTTuS
BIG Everywhere - Everything
233
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Posted - 2013.01.11 11:55:00 -
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as others have said. the history has to be there forever - so a AKA list and it would have to be not cheep [In real money] and restricted to how many you can do ]
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Pewty McPew
Pillage Plunder And Rape Industries
144
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Posted - 2013.01.11 12:53:00 -
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Keep the corp history forever and as long as I can see past names I and my 256 alts :) approve of the "Name Change" proposal |
March rabbit
Aliastra
474
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Posted - 2013.01.11 15:09:00 -
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Purity wrote:The point is this, Eve Online is different to other games in that it incorporates accountability.
Don't like your name or your corp history or some of your past choices? Tough! In this game, your actions have consequences.
what about bought chars? Do you know WHOLE story of every your bought characters? I don't.
Once i bought supercarrier babysitter with SS -9. He was a pirate for sure. But for me he just was sitting in my supercarrier and assisting me some time with farming ISK in 0.0. Then i sold him to some other person.
So your decision: which consequences this (second) owner should deal with? I have no ideas. Do you think it would be good if this new owner of char will be (hunted, griefed, killed, whatever) because of some old actions of this bought char?
Once again: character is a tool like ship. Every character has REAL person controlling him. Past actions of CHARACTER may have no connection to current REAL owner.
Let's say you ganked someone. Then you want to get rid of your ship. You can strip fit from your ship and sell it. Or you make a contract and sell it as is. Or you repackage it and sell to market. No story left. New owner should not deal with consequences for YOUR actions with this ship. Or he should? |
NickyYo
StarHug
273
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Posted - 2013.01.11 15:20:00 -
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This is a very bad and stupid idea!
Here are my reasons.
- If one were allowed to change character name what would happen to the next joeblogs who chooses that name for their new character?
- If recruiters look on the character bazaar and see the character has infact been sold, then whats the problem?
- Maybee CCP might add a feature to remove corp history? that won't work guess why? because i will create an app that will pull all characters history through killboard links etc., though maybee CCP would do this, theres a lot of idiots out there, me not one of them.
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Xorcha
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.01.11 15:34:00 -
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Fundamentally you can change your name in real life therefore it makes no sense not to be able to change your name in game. Also it's entirely possible for your reputation to change in real life and you may have different reputations with different groups of people so I don't think your employment history should be stuck to your character after potentially multiple account transfers.
Therefore when you transfer your character I think you should be able to change your name and corp history should be removed.
As a pragmatic step to avoid spy character swapping to wipe reputation, if a character changes accounts a timer should start which removes the previous life corp history after a year. That way a bought character would eventually lose it's previous life history and a spy could not switch a character between accounts to remove reputation.
Your eve character is an extension of your irl identity, I would argue that hating your name makes the game less immersive. |
Fanatic Row
DED Drug Enforcement Department
1
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Posted - 2013.01.11 15:47:00 -
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Mag's wrote:Fanatic Row wrote:Why does every service have to be paid? As if EVE wasn't already the most expensive MMO on the market; how about CCP give us some free quality of life services? You really need to look at prices first, before making such a claim. So, in which subscription based games do you have to pay for cosmetic features such as a re-sculpt, or clothing?
CCP charges a monthly fee for EVE, but offer none of the services that they've implemented from Free-to-Play games in that fee.
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Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
1133
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Posted - 2013.01.11 15:53:00 -
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I haven't read the whole thread so someone has probably already suggested it.
But a "Character name history" viewable to the public at all times would fix the name change problem.
Say i get tied of Jenn aSide and want to change it to something snazzy like Jenn Ann Juice (which is delicious BTW), like you can see my corp history, you can see my NAME history to and always know I was Jenn aAside. Limit 1 name change per 12 or 24 months or something.
I've got a couple chars I bought that I'd pay a couple plex to change their names lol. |
Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
1133
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Posted - 2013.01.11 15:54:00 -
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Goran Konjich wrote:History must remain. A LOT of players would like to pay PLEX for name change.
[EDIT] Old name must stay visible forever on Bio, right next to current name. Name change is allowed only every 3 years.
case in point, i've been beaten to the punch again. Damn that goran guy. |
Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
1133
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Posted - 2013.01.11 15:55:00 -
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Vixisti wrote:Sounds like something that could be done via Incarna with lots of dirty dealings in station with dodgy characters and the transfer of lots and lots of isk.
Make it a player high tier learnable skill - Forgery
There are lot's of ways to make it work and actually add to the gameplay but it would have to be both difficult and expensive.
i'd love to train Identity Theft to 5 :) .
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The F Word
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
42
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Posted - 2013.01.11 15:57:00 -
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What would happen if name changes were made willy nilly, and corp history was erased?
Paranoia is already at maximum levels, I don't think it would have the effect everyone seems to fear.
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March rabbit
Aliastra
474
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Posted - 2013.01.11 16:31:00 -
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Cutter Isaacson wrote:March rabbit wrote: Once again: we talk here about SPACE PIXELS. Characters don't do s..t itself. Some REAL person does it. Character is asset like ship. Yes for some "RP-like" people characters mean something. But in reality you never can trust any character. You only can trust PERSON controlling this char. And this information isn't a part of char employment history. Add here account sharing (illegal but used very often) and you have even less trust to character.
Scam artist/Corp thief wrote:Oh no, I have scammed and stolen billions and now I can't do anything because people don't trust me OH!! I know!! I'll just sell myself to.....myself. Then I can wipe out all my wrong doings in one go and start all over again without losing any of my skills etc. etc. ad infinitum. The above scenario was brought to you by people wanting zero consequences for their in-game actions. tl;dr Name change etc. is a bad idea, don't do it CCP. tell me please one thing: who are you? you are human sitting next to PC and playing game? Or maybe you are character which is only life in game?
You really don't see difference between people (controlling group of characters) and in-game character? |
Ascendic
Macabre Votum Northern Coalition.
100
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Posted - 2013.01.11 16:33:00 -
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Fanatic Row wrote:Why does every service have to be paid? As if EVE wasn't already the most expensive MMO on the market; how about CCP give us some free quality of life services?
Really bro? EVE is the most expensive MMO on the market?
Please inform me how many of the 17+ expansions you have paid for?
owait.........NONE. |
Fanatic Row
DED Drug Enforcement Department
1
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Posted - 2013.01.11 16:40:00 -
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Ascendic wrote:Fanatic Row wrote:Why does every service have to be paid? As if EVE wasn't already the most expensive MMO on the market; how about CCP give us some free quality of life services? Really bro? EVE is the most expensive MMO on the market? Please inform me how many of the 17+ expansions you have paid for? owait.........NONE.
Seriously? Now set aside the fact that CCP couldn't charge for expansions even if they wanted to...
How many of the expansions would be considered a true expansion you'd buy, instead of a large content update, in any other AAA MMO?
owait...... NONE.
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March rabbit
Aliastra
474
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Posted - 2013.01.11 16:54:00 -
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just to clarify it a little.
Let's take a look to RL and cars.
1. Some bad guy (codename: person 1) used car to kill some other guy. 2. Car was restored/cleaned and officially sold to new person (again: ANOTHER PERSON). Let's call him person 2. 3. Some good guys (like the ones who ask here for CONSEQUENCES) come to person 2 and kill him because of "person 1 killed my friend. You have to deal with CONSEQUENCES". Yes, person 2 can be the same people as person 1 (like someone here wrote already) but car itself can't be the main attribute for search At least i really hope to never see such methods in RL
In-game chars are tools like cars in RL. You buy it, use and sell it.
Again: car does not stuff. It is alive person behind this car.
So characters in game don't do stuff. Character does not scam, it can't lie, it doesn't do anything (well, he collects SPs). Anything character do - it is manipulations of real person behind him. You either trust to this hidden owner or you don't. And you never can be sure you talk to the same REAL person twice using character interface.
That's why i don't see it like real problem to "cleaning char". As long as character has mark "was cleaned" you always can decide for yourself: you trust blindly to UNKNOWN OWNER behind this char (and let him scam/awox/etc... you) or you don't trust to him. |
Smuca
Forcas armadas Moon Warriors
0
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Posted - 2013.01.11 17:48:00 -
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I only read 4 pages of that thread so forgive me if I'm posting something that has been said already.
That said, I think it's safe to say people who are against name changing are against that only because they fear corp thieves / scammers / spies could change their names and get away with it. In my opinion that is only a problem for recruiters and easily avoidable with a name change history and of course corp history.
Corp history wipe is a completely different story and I'm against it.
Also, name changing becoming available or not I think they should implement a character transfer history.
PS: I always wanted to buy an amarr/gallente pvp pilot but never did because I could never find one with an acceptable name. PS2: I'm not a big fan of my name either and would probably change it if it becomes available. |
Ash Jwilliams
DnD Gold Depository
0
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Posted - 2013.01.11 21:04:00 -
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What about minor name changes for people who were handicapped by an old naming system?
In particular, this toon was created way back when names could only have 1 space. Therefore, I had to combine my middle initial and last name.
These days, you can have 2 spaces. If I were to make this toon today, his name would read instead:
Ash J Williams
Do you think minor changes such as these would be reasonable? |
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