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Ja'kar
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Posted - 2005.04.22 14:37:00 -
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Edited by: Ja''kar on 22/04/2005 14:39:40 been told that temp is in 4 another nerf, please say it aint so
anyone have any info
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Antoinette Civari
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Posted - 2005.04.22 14:44:00 -
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Tempest looks nicely balanced, i dont see a reason why the dev`s should nerf it. Missile changes are coming with the next big patch, maybe that will turn out bad for all the tempest pilots who fit missile launchers on their ship. But since there is no reliable information about the missile change its all speculation.
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Noriath
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Posted - 2005.04.22 14:44:00 -
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I think gankships in general will be nerfed eventually, but there seems to be no reason to nerf the tempest specifically.
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Aodha Khan
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Posted - 2005.04.22 14:48:00 -
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Who told you this and where did they read this from?
So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong and to strike at what is weak. |
SinBin
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Posted - 2005.04.22 14:50:00 -
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The best bet is to make some small pictures of your favrite ships & parts then glue them to a dart board, throw 10 darts but take 2 random 1s back out, you should then have a good idea as to what items nerfed next.
well thats how ccp work it out so should be close. _______________________________________
Ill Shutup when CCP remove bookmarks
Maybe end the election round will do it ? & could save hundred of Users & Mods pain. |
Raven Dru
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Posted - 2005.04.22 14:55:00 -
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Nerf Gallente, they deserve it.
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Alyth
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Posted - 2005.04.22 15:13:00 -
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Originally by: Raven Dru Nerf Gallente, they deserve it.
o_0 the only working ship we have is the Deimos
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Sorja
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Posted - 2005.04.22 15:17:00 -
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I see more tempests than ever, and like it. At the moment, from top to down in numbers, I see (which means other regions could see something else):
1¦ Apocalypse 2¦ Armaggedon 3¦ Tempest 4¦ Raven (it sucks being Caldari atm) 5¦ Megathron (fast growing numbers, on par with ravens soon) 6¦ Scorpion 7¦ Typhoon 8¦ Dominix
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Sorja
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Posted - 2005.04.22 15:20:00 -
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Originally by: Alyth the only working ship we have is the Deimos
Gallente have the best 1vs1 BS: Dominix One of the best close AND long range BS: Megathron (gaining in popularity fast) Best cruiser: Thorax Best HAC: Deimos
Top of the notch Assault frigates: Enyo (and Ishkur for some important speciliazed tasks as nullufying missiles ships)
Top of the notch interceptor: Tarranis.
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MacDuncan
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Posted - 2005.04.22 15:23:00 -
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"is the temp getting a nerf"
...why should it??? --
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Acwron
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Posted - 2005.04.22 15:39:00 -
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Edited by: Acwron on 22/04/2005 15:39:37
Originally by: Sorja I see more tempests than ever, and like it. [...]
Sorja that's because you were flying with CE/STV who discriminate all apoc/geddon pilots since months. :) (making them mine a million in their noobship and stuff *g*)
Actually I'd say the megathorn is the best overall PvP ship atm. It's great in small and medium engagements (dps). This burst damage is high enough to make to fearsome in fleet battles.
Overall BS are pretty much balanced (probably best balance since ages) and only tiny tweaks should be made.
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Dionysus Davinci
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Posted - 2005.04.22 15:53:00 -
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Edited by: Dionysus Davinci on 22/04/2005 15:54:09
Originally by: Sorja One of the best close AND long range BS: Megathron (gaining in popularity fast)
Ever try to beat a raven long range in a rail mega :/ It is a pretty damn good ship, though far from the best. Though I am very confident I can beat the snot out of a Tempest at long range and close range
Not to mention, these rails make for great empire ganking.
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Alyth
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Posted - 2005.04.22 15:57:00 -
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Originally by: Sorja
Originally by: Alyth the only working ship we have is the Deimos
Gallente have the best 1vs1 BS: Dominix One of the best close AND long range BS: Megathron (gaining in popularity fast) Best cruiser: Thorax Best HAC: Deimos
Top of the notch Assault frigates: Enyo (and Ishkur for some important speciliazed tasks as nullufying missiles ships)
Top of the notch interceptor: Tarranis.
Pssst....winky smiley = joke
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Acwron
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Posted - 2005.04.22 16:04:00 -
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Originally by: Dionysus Davinci Edited by: Dionysus Davinci on 22/04/2005 15:54:09
Originally by: Sorja One of the best close AND long range BS: Megathron (gaining in popularity fast)
Ever try to beat a raven long range in a rail mega :/ It is a pretty damn good ship, though far from the best. [...]
Sorry but beating sb. longe range? What would stop both from just warping out? sorja and I am are speaking of teamplay.
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Baconjoe
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Posted - 2005.04.22 16:22:00 -
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They better not nerf the tempest. I would be interested to see your source on this. I have specilaised in the tempest and had to let it rot in a hanger for months because of silly changes to projectiles!
We are cursed men
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DARTHxFREE
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Posted - 2005.04.22 16:22:00 -
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yes NERF the bloomin thing allready!!!
why?
cuase it works!!
>:-E3 !!!rrraY I'm an anti pirate,...life's the wrong way round. |
Selim
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Posted - 2005.04.22 16:23:00 -
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Megathron now > all.
No need for powergrid mods to fit 7 of all the best weapons, close or long range. It outdamages anything up close or far away, not even counting drones which are good against friggies.
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Alyth
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Posted - 2005.04.22 16:27:00 -
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Originally by: DARTHxFREE yes NERF the bloomin thing allready!!!
why?
cuase it works!!
Nerfs = minmatar content patches
/me runs
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SaorAlba
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Posted - 2005.04.22 17:23:00 -
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Originally by: Dionysus Davinci Edited by: Dionysus Davinci on 22/04/2005 15:54:09
Originally by: Sorja One of the best close AND long range BS: Megathron (gaining in popularity fast)
Ever try to beat a raven long range in a rail mega :/ It is a pretty damn good ship, though far from the best. Though I am very confident I can beat the snot out of a Tempest at long range and close range
Not to mention, these rails make for great empire ganking.
I think you should insure your raven platinium and make an appiontment with WotanKN. Don't forget to fraps it:)
Greetz, Alba.
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Mikelangelo
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Posted - 2005.04.22 17:48:00 -
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Originally by: Ja'kar Edited by: Ja''kar on 22/04/2005 14:39:40 been told that temp is in 4 another nerf, please say it aint so
anyone have any info
This is how rumors and stupid stuff gets started on the forums.
Yes, I do realize that you are asking for info.
But what dev in the throes of passion told you that the "Tempest is in 4 another nerf", and was there an "OH GOD !" afterwards? or just an "I'll call you." ?
Tempest is actually working moderately well after somebody trains 7+ million skill points in gunnery. It actually works almost up to how the old 1400mm performed, assuming you have a HUGE amount of skill points in gunnery and 1400mm T2.
Ooops...I actually said that it works, I guess it's time for the infamous Nerfbat of Tomb in the name of "balance".
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Sorja
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Posted - 2005.04.22 18:08:00 -
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Yeah, the tempest is fine and, as already said, the balance is good at the moment, with only the Raven being as useful as a sword in a nuclear war, especially since the EW nerf.
That will change witht he missile overhaul when torps and/or cruises will be the long range weapons they are supposed to be.
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Agent Kenshin
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Posted - 2005.04.22 18:10:00 -
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Edited by: Agent Kenshin on 22/04/2005 18:12:44 The battleships are all quite good now. They all have their uses and they all work no need to do anything to them. (Missile changes will make the caldari a little better.) The cruisers on the other hand. They need the overhaul right now. The regular cruisers are lost in a sea of elite frigates, HACs and battleships right now.
Originally by: MAXSuicide only carebears call pvpers 'greifers'
ehehehh....
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anter
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Posted - 2005.04.22 18:16:00 -
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What there is left to nerf in tempest? I would guess this is just some rumour.
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Eleriol Vakani
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Posted - 2005.04.22 19:38:00 -
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the tempest works just fine
and leave the megathron alone for christ sake
oo and the megathron could fit 7 425mms BEFORE the last boost so dont u try that on the mega
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Wendat Huron
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Posted - 2005.04.22 20:26:00 -
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They need a good nerfing, after all they can't be underdogs with topnotch gear...
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Imran
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Posted - 2005.04.22 20:45:00 -
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Tempest is fine :( leave it!!! (i dont even fly the ugly things i usually get popped by them :D)
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Coasterbrian
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Posted - 2005.04.22 21:49:00 -
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I think the battleships are finally getting nicely balanced.
Tempests are just right as is, imo (and I don't even fly minnie BS, so don't call me biased :P).
Apocs are good at what they are made for, tanking and damage. I think they could do with a SLIGHT nerf on the cap so that they can't tank and fire quite as effectively, so as to be more in line with other turret ships.
Geddons are finally where they need to be with the megapulse nerf. They are no longer the uber gank ship at all ranges. You can still fit tachs or megabeams for long range, but it requires powergird mods, which is as it should be. A tier 1 BS should not be able to outdamage a tier 2 (geddon vs thron).
Megathrons are perfect. They got the slight boost with the decreased powergrid and cap reqs for hybrid turrets, and I think are excellent. No changing necessary (and I fly it).
Ravens are the ones that need a bit of nerf atm, albeit not too much. tech II turrest are far superior to ravens in PvP, but ravens are too good at PvE right now to be balanced properly. Make the ebil agent runners work a bit, I say. :P
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