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CCP Paradox
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Posted - 2012.11.21 17:51:00 -
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Some Rando wrote:CCP Paradox wrote:Some Rando wrote:Quick question: Do killrights assigned to corps or individuals have to be activated, or does that only apply to everyone killrights? I feel like it is a needless step to activate a killright assigned specifically to me or my corp before I start shooting. Anyone in the Corp that it is assigned to can Activate the Kill Right. (Note that this is on the same grid in space with the player.) Try assigning the Kill right to The Scope That wasn't what I was asking. Having to activate a killright available to everyone is understandable, but I feel that activating a killright that is assigned to me or my corp is a wasted and needless UI step, and it should work like, say, a normal killiright would (or being in a war, for instance). For that matter, if I have a killright against someone because they killed me, do I have to activate it? If so, that would be pretty silly. Lastly, do I give up my killright when I assign it to someone else?
They work very different than before. We are flagging the target with a Suspect flag through the new Crimwatch V2 system. So in that respect, the 15 minute flag that gets slapped on your target must be activated manually, when you see that target in space. CCP Paradox | EVE Quality Assurance | Team Super Friends @CCP_Paradox |
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Some Rando
University of Caille Gallente Federation
104
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Posted - 2012.11.21 17:52:00 -
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CCP Punkturis wrote:normal kill rights also work in this way, you have to activate it.
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CCP Punkturis
C C P C C P Alliance
3627
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Posted - 2012.11.21 17:54:00 -
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Salpad wrote:Also, why do you make it known to the target who placed the bounty? People are just going to use disposable or secrets alts to place bounties anyway. It's a silly mechanic.
from our initial feedback we got that some people wanted the name there and others not, for those who want to make it known like "yo I don't like you, I'm placing a bounty on you" can just do it with their own dude... others can use alts or a corporation specializing in placing bounties for others Gÿà EVE User Interface Programmer Gÿà GÖÑ Team Super Friends GÖÑ @CCP_Punkturis My Dev Blogs |
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Harbingour
EVE Corporation 690846961
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Posted - 2012.11.21 17:55:00 -
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"It will not be possible to place bounties on NPC characters (like agents) or corporations (but you can place a bounty on a player character in a NPC corporation), nor on CCP developers or ISD people."
Awwww I wasso much looking forward to collect on CCP Soundwave's 2 trillion in bounies
\o/ I am very appreciative of the reduction on putting bounties on Alliances though & it sounds like good fairer amount. Meta-gaming for NULL SECCers: Whine on the forums until CCP gets sick of you and hands you everything you ask for just to shut you up. Typical NULL SEC arguement to NERF HI SEC-á-á http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csPPqdbcVwM
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
10382
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Posted - 2012.11.21 17:56:00 -
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CCP Punkturis wrote:from our initial feedback we got that some people wanted the name there and others not, for those who want to make it known like "yo I don't like you, I'm placing a bounty on you" can just do it with their own dude... others can use alts or a corporation specializing in placing bounties for others GǪso, how long until Vengeance IncGäó GÇö Your Friendly Bounty Anonymizing Corp is formed? Any bets? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Spurty
V0LTA Verge of Collapse
577
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Posted - 2012.11.21 17:56:00 -
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thanks for the clarification, namely:
" Having a bounty on you will never by itself make you a legal target anywhere."
Phew --- "Also, your boobs" - CCP Eterne (Still writing great prose!)
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Two step
Aperture Harmonics K162
2286
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Posted - 2012.11.21 17:58:00 -
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If you want the very best in bounty placement, you should really use PunkturisCorp. They specialize in quality bounty placement. CSM 7 Secretary CSM 6 Alternate Delegate @two_step_eve on Twitter My Blog
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Hans Jagerblitzen
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
3347
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Posted - 2012.11.21 17:58:00 -
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Many thanks again to the team for listening to our feedback and doubling their efforts to deploy selective kill right sales, its a drastically needed tool to ensure that this bounty hunting system doesnt have the exploits the previous edition suffered from!
I still think reducing the capacity of ASB's only ensures that people will default to the dual-ASB tank, as it simply weakens the use of a solo ASB setup too much. As I've said internally, the problem isn't with single boosted setups near as much as the alternating dual booster fits, I'd much rather see a limit on the number of ASB's one can fit, and maintain their current capacity - than nerf them in this manner (especially since it impacts the smaller sizes more than larger sizes as there is currently no Navy cap booster 25's or 50's.) I really hope the team keeps an open mind here and continues to listen to the community, ASB's have a LOT of potential and are a lot of fun, I just think the path currently being taken to nerf them cuts way down on the number of ships that can use them to begin with by eating up more slots for a second booster.
....not to mention Fozzie's tiericide efforts when it comes to command links will further hurt ASB tanks, I hope this pending double nerf is considered - because it would be a shame for these to become obsolete when compared to traditional active booster / cap booster setups.
The rest of the module changes are pretty sensible, reactive armor hardeners in particular should really start to shine given the new speed of their adaptation. Vice Secretary of the 7th Council of Stellar Management.
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Harbingour
EVE Corporation 690846961
11
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Posted - 2012.11.21 18:00:00 -
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CCP Punkturis wrote:Salpad wrote:Also, why do you make it known to the target who placed the bounty? People are just going to use disposable or secrets alts to place bounties anyway. It's a silly mechanic.
from our initial feedback we got that some people wanted the name there and others not, for those who want to make it known like "yo I don't like you, I'm placing a bounty on you" can just do it with their own dude... others can use alts or a corporation specializing in placing bounties for others
Here's a scenerio I have not seen addressed yet ( if I missed it in the Blogs please correct me ): If an alt places a bounty on another pilot & recycles ( terminates) that dispoable alt does the bounty still stick? Also will recycling multiple alts be a bannable offence like disposing of alts to escape SEC Status penalties? Meta-gaming for NULL SECCers: Whine on the forums until CCP gets sick of you and hands you everything you ask for just to shut you up. Typical NULL SEC arguement to NERF HI SEC-á-á http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csPPqdbcVwM
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
10382
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Posted - 2012.11.21 18:01:00 -
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Spurty wrote:thanks for the clarification, namely:
" Having a bounty on you will never by itself make you a legal target anywhere."
Phew Note, though, that it will make you a more likely target. A freighter pilot with a sufficient bounty on his head will readily pay out 300M ISK for the ship alone (to say nothing about the inevitable lost cargo), and that goes a long way towards making it a GÇ£free killGÇ¥. Jump Freighters will similarly be able to pay out enough ISK to pay for the lost ships in a gank, even if not a single piece of loot drops, if the bounty is high enough. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Versuvius Marii
Browncoats of Persephone Ironworks Coalition
145
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Posted - 2012.11.21 18:02:00 -
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Gneeznow wrote:Btw this 'available to all' on the killrights, does this mean it's available to view and buy by anyone? Edit: also now that sec hits are front loading, what kind of sec hit do you get when you destroy a ship? the full hit you now get when you 'gank' someone who doesn't fire back, or the 10~ smaller hit you get when they fire back at you? Also Quote:The aggressor now has the option to retract a war that has been made mutual by the defender. This ends the war in 24 hours. The other option here was to give the aggressor a chance to accept or refuse making the war mutual, but we felt the retraction was a cleaner and simpler solution. bye bye dec shield? Were Goons one of the ones perma-locked into war? [/tinfoil] The Gaming MoD - retro to modern, console to MMO, I blog about it if it's a game and I'm interested in it. Yes, I play games other than Eve and I don't care if you think I'm wrong. |
Kelduum Revaan
EVE University Ivy League
1907
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Posted - 2012.11.21 18:02:00 -
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Iam Widdershins wrote:...I'm saddened to see you have yet again raised the base cost of declaring war. I strongly believe we need to reduce the minimum cost of war declarations; hisec warfare is such an excellent introductory arena for aspiring PVPers, and the current costs are just so high.
The "minimum" cost hasn't changed, its still 50M ISK/week, only the "cost effectiveness" of the war has changed. That said, maybe the "aspiring PvPers" could choose a smaller target, or offer their services in someone else's wardec as an ally which is entirely free?
There's also LoSec if they want to PvP (with the updated killrights only on pods there, and new flagging it will hopefully be more active), and bounty hunting in HiSec should become an interesting profession now - there are plenty of places a small corp of inexperienced PvPers can go if they don't want to join an already established group.
And of course, who is that short on cash they can't afford the maximum cost of 500M ISK a week between them? If they don't have at least that much, how are they going to replace their ships?
Callic Veratar wrote:Why would you send the name of the person placing the bounty? This is something I raised, as its just going to result in more alts, but without it there are less repercussions.
i expect to see "bounty alts" to spring up as a mini profession in the near future. Kelduum Revaan CEO, EVE University |
Naomi Wildfire
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
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Posted - 2012.11.21 18:03:00 -
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I for one still think the old ASB should have been limited to 1 per Ship, nothing else.
Either run 1 and hope it lasts the fight or use it as support for your active booster. |
Alara IonStorm
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Posted - 2012.11.21 18:07:00 -
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I am not sure I get the kill right system, I don't use it now but just so I know.
* When someone assigns me permission to utilize a kill right can I activate it when I see them and start shooting? * If a kill right is activated then does that mean that if I fail to kill them like they dock or something is it gone for good or can you use it until a kill? * If you make it for anyone and a friend pops them in a shuttle is it gone or does it last the month?
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Salpad
Carebears with Attitude
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Posted - 2012.11.21 18:07:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Spurty wrote:thanks for the clarification, namely:
" Having a bounty on you will never by itself make you a legal target anywhere."
Phew Note, though, that it will make you a more likely target. A freighter pilot with a sufficient bounty on his head will readily pay out 300M ISK for the ship alone (to say nothing about the inevitable lost cargo), and that goes a long way towards making it a GÇ£free killGÇ¥. Jump Freighters will similarly be able to pay out enough ISK to pay for the lost ships in a gank, even if not a single piece of loot drops, if the bounty is high enough.
Yes, it does have serious consequences in terms of shifting suicide gank profitability thresholds. And the direction of shift is downwards.
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Aethlyn
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Posted - 2012.11.21 18:09:00 -
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Don't think this has been asked here so far: Are there any plans for adjusting access to implants in space? E.g. to avoid people ripping out implants when they know they can't get away to avoid them showing up on kill mails (and to reduce bounty payouts)? Looking for more thoughts? Read http://aethlyn.blogspot.com/ or follow me on http://twitter.com/Aethlyn. |
Alara IonStorm
3552
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Posted - 2012.11.21 18:09:00 -
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Naomi Wildfire wrote:I for one still think the old ASB should have been limited to 1 per Ship, nothing else.
Either run 1 and hope it lasts the fight or use it as support for your active booster. I would like them to sort out fitting as well. The big reason the XL-SB wasn't used much sub Battleship was Capacitor. Now Battlecruiser can fit it comfortably as well as some Cruiser. I think they should up the Grid to 1000 on it before limiting it. Maybe buff the Large a tiny bit if needed for the 1 you can fit to your ship. |
Harbingour
EVE Corporation 690846961
11
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Posted - 2012.11.21 18:13:00 -
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Versuvius Marii wrote:Were Goons one of the ones perma-locked into war? [/tinfoil]
Of course they were but I don't want to get into that again & get forum banned like my main
Meta-gaming for NULL SECCers: Whine on the forums until CCP gets sick of you and hands you everything you ask for just to shut you up. Typical NULL SEC arguement to NERF HI SEC-á-á http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csPPqdbcVwM
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Callic Veratar
Power of the Phoenix
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Posted - 2012.11.21 18:22:00 -
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Kelduum Revaan wrote:Callic Veratar wrote:Why would you send the name of the person placing the bounty? This is something I raised, as its just going to result in more alts, but without it there are less repercussions. i expect to see "bounty alts" to spring up as a mini profession in the near future.
Unfortunately, the only repercussions I can see are to the people who are not familiar enough with eve to know you can get around it by creating an alt. But then, trial by fire is the way of eve and I guess this will be no different. |
Michael Harari
The Hatchery Team Liquid
364
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Posted - 2012.11.21 18:26:00 -
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I cannot get over how badly designed the MJD is.
The rest of the blog is pretty cool, particularly making reactive hardeners better, and making bounty hunting an actual thing. But dear god, that MJD is so silly. |
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Alystin Wyndyl
Night's Shadows TriMark Alliance
9
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Posted - 2012.11.21 18:27:00 -
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CCP Paradox wrote:Iam Widdershins wrote:agrajag119 wrote:Salvage drones - you specifically call out "your own wrecks". will this include fleet members or corp members as well. I know nuetral wrecks were mentioned too, but this sounds like a corner case that might get missed. They already stated that this would basically differentiate based on the color of the wrecks; drones will auto-salvage white and blue wrecks but leave yellow alone. This means that fleet members' wrecks will be perfectly available. But you can target a Yellow wreck manually and then tell your drones to salvage it, if you choose to go down that dark, dark path.
I was testing this last night on Buckingham, and it does NOT work as advertised, at least not all the time. I was using two toons, one in a carrier and the other in a guardian with salvage drones, and the drones would not auto-salvage any of the WHITE wrecks (they were the other fleet member's wrecks, not mine) and they would also NOT auto-salvage any of the blue wrecks (once he abandoned all nearby wrecks). they did work earlier on my own wrecks I made testing once of the new destroyers. I had to specifically send the drones after each of the white and blue wrecks that were not tagged to my Alliance. Devs please take a look at that. |
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
1178
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Posted - 2012.11.21 18:30:00 -
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Quote:It will not be possible to place bounties on NPC characters (like agents) or corporations (but you can place a bounty on a player character in a NPC corporation), nor on CCP developers or ISD people.
what would be kinda neat is if you would add an exception for certain live event characters. just as a hint :) its certainly a nice isk sink a eve-style bounty system https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=359105 You fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail to jump because you are cloaked |
Manssell
OmiHyperMultiNationalDrunksConglomerate
124
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Posted - 2012.11.21 18:32:00 -
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Hans Jagerblitzen wrote: I still think reducing the capacity of ASB's only ensures that people will default to the dual-ASB tank, as it simply weakens the use of a solo ASB setup too much. As I've said internally, the problem isn't with single boosted setups near as much as the alternating dual booster fits, I'd much rather see a limit on the number of ASB's one can fit, and maintain their current capacity - than nerf them in this manner (especially since it impacts the smaller sizes more than larger sizes as there is currently no Navy cap booster 25's or 50's.) I really hope the team keeps an open mind here and continues to listen to the community, ASB's have a LOT of potential and are a lot of fun, I just think the path currently being taken to nerf them cuts way down on the number of ships that can use them to begin with by eating up more slots for a second booster.
Pretty much this.
Your right, It wouldn't be as bad if Navy cap boosters came in the 25 and 50 size but when that gets brought up CCP gives the old "we might do that in the future" line, so not encouraging. The problem is (at least as I see it) with this solution they are really hitting frigates and destroyers hard with the nerf bat, to fix a cruiser and up mechanic. |
Freelancer117
So you want to be a Hero
40
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Posted - 2012.11.21 18:34:00 -
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Quote:One final note is that weGÇÖre also making a small adjustment to the Noctis. WeGÇÖre giving it a drone bay of 25m-¦. Initially, this was limited to salvage drones only, but we decided to remove that restriction, so you can now put any drone type in there.
Very much appreciated, always found the noctis lacking a dronebay incase of "future" salvage drones odd. Eve Radio |
Aethlyn
161
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Posted - 2012.11.21 18:35:00 -
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Bienator II wrote:what would be kinda neat is if you would add an exception for certain live event characters. just as a hint :) its certainly a nice isk sink Live Event characters are probably different anyway, as you can add them to your watch list as well etc. (something that doesn't work with real "NPCs" as far as I know. :) Looking for more thoughts? Read http://aethlyn.blogspot.com/ or follow me on http://twitter.com/Aethlyn. |
Tarvos Telesto
Blood Fanatics
65
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Posted - 2012.11.21 18:35:00 -
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"If the kill right is made available to everyone, but at a low price, the targeted player can simply use an alt or a friend to get rid of the kill right. This is then just an extra hoop to jump through for those players frequently causing others to get kill rights on them."
I like most of changes in bounty system, but his...
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Bienator II
madmen of the skies
1178
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Posted - 2012.11.21 18:37:00 -
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Quote:For the Micro Jump Drive, we will start by just doing a large version of this module (Large Micro Jump Drive), which only battleship size ships can fit (Battleships, Marauders and Black Ops). Here are a few pertinent points: no combat recons anymore :-( a eve-style bounty system https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=359105 You fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail to jump because you are cloaked |
Harbingour
EVE Corporation 690846961
11
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Posted - 2012.11.21 18:38:00 -
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The spacerich CSM's dictated to the DEV's whom wrote: Also, weGÇÖve changed a little bit how the cost scales depending on number of characters in defender corp/alliance. The cost now starts ramping up faster than before and thus hits the ceiling of 500 million sooner. Before the cost started scaling up around the 128 character mark and hit the ceiling at ca. 7200. After the change, the cost starts ramping up with the 51st character and hits the ceiling at the 2000 character mark.
When are we going to hear if these changes actually increase or decreased the war dec ISK sink in the economy? Are there actually more war declarations then before Inferno's release or has the hi costs of war decc'ing the big alliances stifled the number of war dec's? I WANT STATS!!! ( I miss CCP Diagoras ) Meta-gaming for NULL SECCers: Whine on the forums until CCP gets sick of you and hands you everything you ask for just to shut you up. Typical NULL SEC arguement to NERF HI SEC-á-á http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csPPqdbcVwM
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Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
1163
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Posted - 2012.11.21 18:48:00 -
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CCP Punkturis wrote:Salpad wrote:Also, why do you make it known to the target who placed the bounty? People are just going to use disposable or secrets alts to place bounties anyway. It's a silly mechanic.
from our initial feedback we got that some people wanted the name there and others not, for those who want to make it known like "yo I don't like you, I'm placing a bounty on you" can just do it with their own dude... others can use alts or a corporation specializing in placing bounties for others Then give me a checkbox: "Tell target who placed the bounty?" instead of having me make an alt. http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |
Dread Operative
Quantum Cats Syndicate Drunk 'n' Disorderly
32
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Posted - 2012.11.21 18:50:00 -
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Thank you for killing the ASB . Single ASB ships are now useless because of the huge reduction in charges and dual ASB's are so underwhelming that they will barely be used. Sold off all my Ab's as soon as I read about the change. Why does CCP never listen to us about these "fixes"? Limiting 1 ASB per ship would still make them useful but not OP with the original stats.
Stubborn hardheaded fools sometimes CCP.
PS I have been testing them on the test server, so I know they are le crap now. |
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