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Xwj
Universal Might Monkey Circus
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Posted - 2012.11.23 02:00:00 -
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Hi all
I started the game a week ago and I'm just about to get in to a Caracal I have my skills planned for my drake. After thta I'm looking to get in to a Raven and then a CNR I have a set of skill planned in EveMon but i think some of the skills are not needed and some of the skills I'm missing could you guys take a look and tell me if I'm missing any or I should take away skills that are not helpful.
Raven:
Caldari Frigate IV Caldari Cruiser I Caldari Cruiser II Caldari Cruiser III Caldari Cruiser IV Electronics IV Electronics V Electronics Upgrades II Electronics Upgrades III Electronics Upgrades IV Electronics Upgrades V Energy Grid Upgrades III Energy Grid Upgrades IV Energy Management IV Energy Systems Operation IV Energy Systems Operation V Engineering IV Engineering V Evasive Maneuvering III Heavy Missiles III Hull Upgrades IV Long Range Targeting III Long Range Targeting IV Mechanics IV Missile Launcher Operation IV Missile Launcher Operation V Cruise Missiles I Cruise Missiles II Cruise Missiles III Cruise Missiles IV Navigation IV Shield Compensation I Shield Compensation II Shield Compensation III Shield Management IV Shield Operation IV Shield Operation V Shield Upgrades IV Signature Analysis IV Spaceship Command IV Caldari Battleship I Caldari Battleship II Tactical Shield Manipulation II Targeting V Multitasking I Torpedoes I Torpedoes II Warp Drive Operation III Weapon Upgrades III Weapon Upgrades IV
CNR:
Raven skills + the list below
Missile Bombardment III Missile Bombardment IV Target Navigation Prediction III Target Navigation Prediction IV Rapid Launch III Rapid Launch IV Missile Projection I Missile Projection II Torpedoes III Torpedoes IV Drones III Combat Drone Operation I Combat Drone Operation II Combat Drone Operation III Target Painting I Launcher Rigging II Launcher Rigging III Launcher Rigging IV Scout Drone Operation II Scout Drone Operation III Scout Drone Operation IV Scout Drone Operation V Drones IV Drones V Gallente Drone Specialization I
Help Would be great as I've tried to import from EFT but it does not tell me what supporting skills I need so I will be able to fly the **** with the fittings but it will be the bare minimum and i will probs get popped !
Xwj |
palmer1r
J.G. Wentworth Inc.
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Posted - 2012.11.23 02:53:00 -
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I would look into getting Missile Rigging V so you can eventually get T2 rigs |
palmer1r
J.G. Wentworth Inc.
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Posted - 2012.11.23 03:01:00 -
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Also get Caldari Battleship to atleast IV, II will not cut it |
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
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Posted - 2012.11.23 04:38:00 -
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Well, for starters, you're not going to be using torps on a Raven (or CNR). So drop those for now.
I'd agree with the previous poster on all but Launcher Rigging 5, which, why? It makes a difference on marginal fits but hopefully you can sub in a co-proc until you absolutely know you need it. Definitely get all listed drone skills though.
You're missing a laundry list of missile supports. I'd get every support skill the in category to 3 before stepping into a BS-sized missile chucker. Guided Missile Precision should be priority to 4.
Oh, and take Weapon Upgrades to 5 to open up Advanced Weapon Upgrades -- which should then go to 4 rather quickly. Lots of additional fitting options that way. |
Xwj
Universal Might Monkey Circus
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Posted - 2012.11.23 13:41:00 -
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hey thanks guys i will add them to the list :D
What are all the missile support skills under in the certificates of evemon, which heading ? |
Matt Ellis
Infinity Engine
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Posted - 2012.11.23 14:02:00 -
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Xwj wrote:hey thanks guys i will add them to the list :D
What are all the missile support skills under in the certificates of evemon, which heading ?
To name a few
Guided Missile Precision Missile Bombardment Missile Projection Rapid Launch
...and for the life of me, i cant remember the rest.. |
Mia Restolo
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.11.23 14:51:00 -
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Xwj wrote:hey thanks guys i will add them to the list :D
What are all the missile support skills under in the certificates of evemon, which heading ?
The Missile Control certificate. It looks like you have most of them listed under the CNR skills but you should have those for the regular raven too. |
RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
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Posted - 2012.11.23 15:04:00 -
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You will want Tactical Shield Manipulation IV for the T2 Hardners.
Insurance V for the first couple Ravens. And share missions with a wingmate until you know you can solo them. |
Bugsy VanHalen
Society of lost Souls
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Posted - 2012.11.26 18:52:00 -
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As far as the missile support skills go; Of course missile launcher operation to 5 Guided missile precision< great skill but needs MLO to 5 Missile bombardment Missile projection Rapid launch Target navigation prediction Warhead upgrades
They are all as key skills for the drake and for the raven or CNR. Get them all too at least 3 before even starting on your raven skills. With these skills trained to 4 a Drake with T2 launchers will out DPS a poorly fit/skilled battleship.
Should all be to at least 4 before ever flying a CNR. |
unidenify
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.11.27 21:14:00 -
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so to be clear, I am in same as OP here my plan is to get standard certificate of Core Competency and Combat Drone control. however, I am not sure which is more important for Raven, Core Competency or Combat Drone?
for missile part. I have improved Certificate of Missile Control with Basic Battleship Missile Control. So I feel that it is sufficient for mission runner. (I yet to have access to l4 mission) |
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Tendra Rockbuster
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.12.03 06:02:00 -
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unidenify wrote:so to be clear, I am in same as OP here my plan is to get standard certificate of Core Competency and Combat Drone control. however, I am not sure which is more important for Raven, Core Competency or Combat Drone?
for missile and shield part. I have improved Certificate of Missile Control with Basic Battleship Missile Control. And Shield has Improved on Active/passive shield with standard shield reinforcement. So I feel that it is sufficient for mission runner. (I yet to have access to l4 mission)
Both. If you don't have your core skills, you're going to run out of cap or won't be able to fit things due to lack of PG/CPU etc...core skills overall are needed to make you function no matter what you're flying and the effect of lacking in them is exacerbated in a battleship compared to a drake or caracal.
If you don't have drone skills, when you fly into that level 4 mission, you'll shoot the battleships down, and the BC/cruiser rats (if you have guided missile precision and some rigor/flare rigs) but the frigates will slowly eat you up (or not so slowly depending on your engineering skills) |
Velarra
Ghost Festival Naraka.
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Posted - 2012.12.06 19:35:00 -
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In post-retribution new eden, you may want to seriously consider Drone Durability V. |
Hae Sung
Da Learnin Corp
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Posted - 2012.12.06 20:38:00 -
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Velarra wrote:In post-retribution new eden, you may want to seriously consider Drone Durability V.
From testing yesterday and today with my CNR, this isn't bad advice at all. If you end up using light drones, they WILL get chewed up by frigates very quickly. You may find it worthwhile to invest in the skills to use mediums - which so far have been mainly ignored by the frigates in missions.
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Dracan02
I N E X T R E M I S Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2012.12.07 01:53:00 -
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Raven:
Caldari Frigate IV Caldari Cruiser IV Electronics V Electronics Upgrades IV Electronics Upgrades V Energy Grid Upgrades IV Energy Management IV Energy Systems Operation V Engineering V Evasive Maneuvering III (should be 4) Heavy Missiles III Hull Upgrades IV Long Range Targeting IV Mechanics IV Missile Launcher Operation V Cruise Missiles IV Navigation IV Shield Compensation III (should be 4) Shield Management IV Shield Operation IV Shield Operation V Shield Upgrades IV Signature Analysis IV Spaceship Command IV Caldari Battleship II (should be 4) Tactical Shield Manipulation II (should be 4, never take it to 5 tho as it will actually reduce your real ehp) Targeting V Multitasking I (not needed) Torpedoes II Warp Drive Operation III (you don't really need this) Weapon Upgrades IV
CNR:
Raven skills + the list below Missile Bombardment IV Target Navigation Prediction IV Rapid Launch IV Missile Projection I Missile Projection II (should be 4) Torpedoes IV Drones V Combat Drone Operation III (should be 4) Target Painting I (should be 4) Launcher Rigging IV Scout Drone Operation V Gallente Drone Specialization I (should be 4)
if you really want to fly a half billion isk fitted ship take some time and get the extra levels on your skills. Also as a rule of thumb if it's bigger then a cruiser it should be t2/meta4 fit or better, this is because you are already investing a fair bit of isk so you might as well go all the way and protect your investment. Never fly what you cannot afford to lose |
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