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Renan Ruivo
Hipernova Vera Cruz Alliance
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Posted - 2011.10.04 23:41:00 -
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ill postr somethng but i am erating popcron now one sec
EDIT: Ok i'm good now.
Good thing that i was unable to post for awhile there because i had half a mind to troll you back. But i wont now. Knowing about the latest trend of clueless posters, i'll try to show you the error of your suggestion.
Ships are expensive in EVE because they are increasingly specialized in whatever task they perform. The more specialized, the higher the cost.
So lets take the Titan for instance. Do you even know what a Titan's intended role is? It is NOT supposed to be an i-win button capable of single-handely demolishing entire fleets. It is supposed to be the ultimate fleet-command ship. That is why it has all those fleet bonuses and the jump-bridge capability. And it does such a good job on that role.. it has such a big strategical value that the ship costs more than any single person should be able to achieve in a life-time of EVE gameplay.
Now, lets take a look at the RORQUAL. Do you know what a Rorqual role is? Its role is to act as the ultimate mining fleet-command ship. And it is. It is NOT supposed to be able to MINE on its own, and so it doesn't. If you ever try to mine with a rorqual you will see what i am talking about. It also costs 4 billion ISK but in all-out combat (a role for which this ship was NOT designed) it sucks donkey anus. It can tank a lot, and it can dish out damage (with sentries), but that is not is primary role.
Do you see the problem there (i'm not asking you THINK there is a problem. There is one, regardless of your opinion)? The rorqual performs its role admirably, but it sucks at mining even though it is a mining fleet-command ship. The titans, however, perform their own role as a combat fleet-command ship just as admirably however it ALSO performs very well as an all-out combat ship.
According to CCP game designers they never intended for players to hoard these like James Bond hoards STD's, so they didn't planned for alliances using dozens (yes, dozens) of Titans in one single engagement.
The result? The Titan performs so well at all-out combat that alliances now use them as combat ships in-lieu of using them as fleet-support. And the idea that Titans are pure combat ships are so entrenched in these people minds that they cannot stand the idea of a Titan becoming to direct combat what the Rorqual is to direct mining.
So we have people like you who spent a shitload of money on a ship because they wanted an overpriced battleship instead of a strategical support asset, now moaning because CCP seems to have realized the error of their ways (same goes with Super Carriers, btw...).
We have a name for your kind. Carebears. We also have a suggestion to you. Harden The F Up. Sometimes the only difference between a budding genius and a blooming idiot is where they chose to take a stand. |
Grimpak
Midnight Elites Echelon Rising
61
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Posted - 2011.10.04 23:43:00 -
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Alpheias wrote:Grimpak wrote:Sofia Bellard wrote:It is not a troll at all.
Let me use an analogy for you:
If you have a Ford Pinto and I have a Porsche GT3 RS and we are going to race; how fair is it that because you didn't try hard in life, I am not allowed to put my car into gear while you putter off to the finish line to win? very well then, I demand my hulk to be able to go toe to toe against 200 frigates or a HAC. it's expensive so it must be that good, right? right?? I demand that my Utu can kill you all by just appearing in the same system as you are in.
for the price of your utu, it should have a jumpdrive that unleashes a super AoE DD blast on arrival that does 4 billion damage in the entire system.
and a single sneeze from it would be able to kill a carrier! [img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]
[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right |
Obsidian Hawk
RONA Corporation RONA Directorate
129
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Posted - 2011.10.04 23:45:00 -
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Sofia Bellard wrote:It is not a troll at all.
Let me use an analogy for you:
If you have a Ford Pinto and I have a Porsche GT3 RS and we are going to race; how fair is it that because you didn't try hard in life, I am not allowed to put my car into gear while you putter off to the finish line to win?
Well see while you were showing off your Porcsche GT3 RS at the starting line, I had a buddy of mine shove a potato in your tail pipe so you couldn't move and i won.
The above statement is a better analogy of how the eve universe works. |
Headerman
Quovis Shadow of xXDEATHXx
143
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Posted - 2011.10.04 23:54:00 -
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Any analogy in EVE is pretty pointless as all the numbers in the game are completely arbitrary.
It's obvious a Titan is a fleet ship and should be flown as thus. if you don't, you have a bigger risk of losing it. Simple. [img]http://i53.tinypic.com/bebnf8.jpg[/img] |
Digital Messiah
N7 Corporation
32
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Posted - 2011.10.04 23:56:00 -
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Amarr Titan Skill Bonuses: 100% bonus to Capital Energy Turret damage per level 7.5% bonus to gang members' capacitor recharge rate per level 99% reduction in CPU need for Warfare Link modules Can fit Judgement Super Weapon Can fit Jump Portal Generator Can fit Clone Vat Bay Can fit 1 additional Warfare Link module per level Immune to all forms of Electronic Warfare
1. 100% bonus to capital energy turret damage per level. 2. 7.5% bonus to gang members capacitor recharge rate per level. 37.5% at level 5... 3. Can fit Doomsday devices... (getting nerfed) 4. Can create jump portals... 5. You can clone at it... 6. You can use up to 6 warfare link modules... 7. You are immune to all forms of electronic warfare!
Number 3 is getting nerfed to fit its purpose. Or are you upset because you believe everyone should only fly capitals? Because a couple titans are capable of destroying all sub capital ship on the playing field very easily. And being able to reach 12 million EHP very very easily, doesn't hurt either...
Honestly If you don't think they are worth the money because of the changes to number 3, than you should have uninstalled a while ago. Just saying. "Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn" |
Headerman
Quovis Shadow of xXDEATHXx
143
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Posted - 2011.10.05 00:03:00 -
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^^^ Now just needs 100% bonus to tracking speed of turrets per level ^_^ [img]http://i53.tinypic.com/bebnf8.jpg[/img] |
Ladie Scarlet
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
269
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Posted - 2011.10.05 00:22:00 -
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Headerman wrote:^^^ Now just needs 100% bonus to tracking speed of turrets per level ^_^ You can certainly dream. If I'd wasted a bunch of isk on a titan I'd want some way to distract myself from titan nerfs too.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Akara Ito
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
16
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Posted - 2011.10.05 00:37:00 -
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Sofia Bellard wrote:It is not a troll at all.
Let me use an analogy for you:
If you have a Ford Pinto and I have a Porsche GT3 RS and we are going to race; how fair is it that because you didn't try hard in life, I am not allowed to put my car into gear while you putter off to the finish line to win?
RL analogies always work in EVE. Now I'm off to fly an Amarr shuttle into Jita 4-4 and ignite a war that will last for a decade and (not)end with some old guy standing on a carrier in front of a "mission accomplished" banner.
+ä+¼+ç+º+» +¦+¦+¿+¦+¦+¿ |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
89
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Posted - 2011.10.05 00:43:00 -
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i should be able to fit estamel's invulns on a drake and absolutely murder an erebus!!!!!! |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
89
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Posted - 2011.10.05 00:44:00 -
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Sofia Bellard wrote:With the disturbing news of the change to the titan weapon on SiSi, I wonder what will stop them from doing similar things to the rest of the ships in EVE.
If I worked really hard at the game to acquire an far superior ship that some other scrub who did just enough to get by, then by all rights then I should be able to mop the floor with his ship. It is the same for how things work in RL (real life) so why should the mold be broken now?
There is a reason why a Raven Navy Issue is superior in firepower and tank than say some crap Rupture. Mine cost an incredible amount more because it has superior tank and firepower to the Rupture. So now because he went all cheap due to his lack of effort in the game, I can't shoot him? What kind of logic is that?!
We all need to band together and let CCP know that we don't want 'welfare' in our game. The universe is cold and harsh so players need to man up and deal with it. Say no to welfare! i too am disturbed by changes to ships that I will never fly |
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The Apostle
The Black Priests
166
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Posted - 2011.10.05 00:51:00 -
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Obsidian Hawk wrote:Sofia Bellard wrote:It is not a troll at all.
Let me use an analogy for you:
If you have a Ford Pinto and I have a Porsche GT3 RS and we are going to race; how fair is it that because you didn't try hard in life, I am not allowed to put my car into gear while you putter off to the finish line to win? Well see while you were showing off your Porcsche GT3 RS at the starting line, I had a buddy of mine shove a potato in your tail pipe so you couldn't move and i won. The above statement is a better analogy of how the eve universe works. Not to mention that you can only do 55 anyway....
My Honda Civic can do that. Take an aspirin. If pain persists consult your local priest. WTB: An Austrian kangaroo!
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0ld School
SON OF RAVANA League of Reprobates
1
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Posted - 2011.10.05 00:58:00 -
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cant tell if serious.... |
Ladie Scarlet
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
269
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Posted - 2011.10.05 01:52:00 -
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The Apostle wrote:Not to mention that you can only do 55 anyway....
My Honda Civic can do that. The fact that you drive a Honda Civic and never go above 55mph is not surprising information.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Cozmik R5
Dock 94
28
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Posted - 2011.10.05 01:59:00 -
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0/10
I hope your CNR dies to a Rifter. Try not. Do. Or do not. There is no try. |
kenxi
Quantum Star Technologies Army of Dark Shadows
7
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Posted - 2011.10.05 02:14:00 -
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OP is one of the people that want golden ammo. Quit crying and go and bug daddy for his debt card so you can buy a different toon because we all know thats what you did to get the one you currently fly. Also should you feel the need to leave I think wow is this way -------------------------------------------------------------------------> |
Chopper Rollins
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
18
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Posted - 2011.10.05 02:14:00 -
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WALL OF TEXT THAT PONES EVERYBODY. |
Cherry Nobyl
Shadow Strike Syndicate
3
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Posted - 2011.10.05 02:31:00 -
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i fly a titan to make my legs look longer, and my ass smaller. i call it asian jean 9000's, and my ass pwns ALL.
/do not ask what powers the doomsday that is my ass, it is not wise.
//in summer i wear a nyx, it shows off the belly button ring, and makes my boobs look perky. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
29
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Posted - 2011.10.05 02:32:00 -
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Temuken Radzu wrote:Three words: bigger isnt better.
That's what she said.
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Sofia Bellard
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
55
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Posted - 2011.10.05 02:46:00 -
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Obsidian Hawk wrote:Sofia Bellard wrote:It is not a troll at all.
Let me use an analogy for you:
If you have a Ford Pinto and I have a Porsche GT3 RS and we are going to race; how fair is it that because you didn't try hard in life, I am not allowed to put my car into gear while you putter off to the finish line to win? Well see while you were showing off your Porcsche GT3 RS at the starting line, I had a buddy of mine shove a potato in your tail pipe so you couldn't move and i won. The above statement is a better analogy of how the eve universe works.
And that is called cheating.
Poor sad little pirates, -áwhy you so mad? |
Alpheias
Euphoria Released HYDRA RELOADED
74
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Posted - 2011.10.05 04:05:00 -
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Sofia Bellard wrote:Obsidian Hawk wrote:Sofia Bellard wrote:It is not a troll at all.
Let me use an analogy for you:
If you have a Ford Pinto and I have a Porsche GT3 RS and we are going to race; how fair is it that because you didn't try hard in life, I am not allowed to put my car into gear while you putter off to the finish line to win? Well see while you were showing off your Porcsche GT3 RS at the starting line, I had a buddy of mine shove a potato in your tail pipe so you couldn't move and i won. The above statement is a better analogy of how the eve universe works. And that is called cheating.
I'd rather win ugly than lose and I'd take it a step further by adding a small explosive to one of the back wheels and when a certain speed was reached, you'd be more preoccupied to pray to whatever deity you now worship to make it out alive while I claim victory.
GÖ½ When your ship gets blown to bits GÖ½ And you lose your Faction fits \Gÿ+/ Don't worry GÖ¬ GÖ½ GÖ¬ GÖ½ GÖ½ GÖ¬ GÖ½ GÖ¬ Be Happy \Gÿ+/ |
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Sofia Bellard
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
55
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Posted - 2011.10.05 04:23:00 -
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Alpheias wrote:Sofia Bellard wrote:Obsidian Hawk wrote:Sofia Bellard wrote:It is not a troll at all.
Let me use an analogy for you:
If you have a Ford Pinto and I have a Porsche GT3 RS and we are going to race; how fair is it that because you didn't try hard in life, I am not allowed to put my car into gear while you putter off to the finish line to win? Well see while you were showing off your Porcsche GT3 RS at the starting line, I had a buddy of mine shove a potato in your tail pipe so you couldn't move and i won. The above statement is a better analogy of how the eve universe works. And that is called cheating. I'd rather win ugly than lose and I'd take it a step further by adding a small explosive to one of the back wheels and when a certain speed was reached, you'd be more preoccupied to pray to whatever deity you now worship to make it out alive while I claim victory.
And now your making RL threats. Enjoy your ban.
Poor sad little pirates, -áwhy you so mad? |
Elyssa MacLeod
GloboTech Industries
9
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Posted - 2011.10.05 04:28:00 -
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Then again, there is the case where ten hour suicide gankers can kill ppl in mackinaws lol **** FiS Its Called EVE |
Grimpak
Midnight Elites Echelon Rising
61
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Posted - 2011.10.05 04:38:00 -
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Sofia Bellard wrote:Obsidian Hawk wrote:Sofia Bellard wrote:It is not a troll at all.
Let me use an analogy for you:
If you have a Ford Pinto and I have a Porsche GT3 RS and we are going to race; how fair is it that because you didn't try hard in life, I am not allowed to put my car into gear while you putter off to the finish line to win? Well see while you were showing off your Porcsche GT3 RS at the starting line, I had a buddy of mine shove a potato in your tail pipe so you couldn't move and i won. The above statement is a better analogy of how the eve universe works. And that is called cheating. not on EVE it isn't. [img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]
[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right |
Pesky LaRue
Mercatoris Etherium Cartel
18
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Posted - 2011.10.05 04:43:00 -
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Sofia Bellard wrote:And now your making RL threats. Enjoy your ban. Further proof you're either trolling or, more likely, not very smart. At all.
And it's "you're making", not "your making." Dolt.
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Alpheias
Euphoria Released HYDRA RELOADED
75
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Posted - 2011.10.05 04:56:00 -
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Sofia Bellard wrote:Alpheias wrote:Sofia Bellard wrote:Obsidian Hawk wrote:Sofia Bellard wrote:It is not a troll at all.
Let me use an analogy for you:
If you have a Ford Pinto and I have a Porsche GT3 RS and we are going to race; how fair is it that because you didn't try hard in life, I am not allowed to put my car into gear while you putter off to the finish line to win? Well see while you were showing off your Porcsche GT3 RS at the starting line, I had a buddy of mine shove a potato in your tail pipe so you couldn't move and i won. The above statement is a better analogy of how the eve universe works. And that is called cheating. I'd rather win ugly than lose and I'd take it a step further by adding a small explosive to one of the back wheels and when a certain speed was reached, you'd be more preoccupied to pray to whatever deity you now worship to make it out alive while I claim victory. And now your making RL threats. Enjoy your ban.
lolwut?
You are the one that brought up the comparison between a Ford Pinto and Porsche GT3 RS and called it cheating if someone shoved a potato into your tail pipe. I elaborated on what I would do if I were going to cheat in a race against you.
GÖ½ When your ship gets blown to bits GÖ½ And you lose your Faction fits \Gÿ+/ Don't worry GÖ¬ GÖ½ GÖ¬ GÖ½ GÖ½ GÖ¬ GÖ½ GÖ¬ Be Happy \Gÿ+/ |
Jennifer Celeste
The Dark Horses.
1
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Posted - 2011.10.05 05:06:00 -
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sad thing is, I knew this was a troll thread before i even clicked into it... |
ThisIsntMyMain
Republic University Minmatar Republic
28
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Posted - 2011.10.05 05:11:00 -
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Pesky LaRue wrote:Sofia Bellard wrote:And now your making RL threats. Enjoy your ban. Further proof you're either trolling or, more likely, not very smart. At all. And it's "you're making", not "your making." Dolt.
I was enjoying the trolling until the OP posted this. Turns out he was a f**kwit after all.
:popcorn:
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mkint
109
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Posted - 2011.10.05 05:27:00 -
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Sofia Bellard wrote:With the disturbing news of the change to the titan weapon on SiSi, I wonder what will stop them from doing similar things to the rest of the ships in EVE.
If I worked really hard at the game to acquire an far superior ship that some other scrub who did just enough to get by, then by all rights then I should be able to mop the floor with his ship. It is the same for how things work in RL (real life) so why should the mold be broken now?
There is a reason why a Raven Navy Issue is superior in firepower and tank than say some crap Rupture. Mine cost an incredible amount more because it has superior tank and firepower to the Rupture. So now because he went all cheap due to his lack of effort in the game, I can't shoot him? What kind of logic is that?!
We all need to band together and let CCP know that we don't want 'welfare' in our game. The universe is cold and harsh so players need to man up and deal with it. Say no to welfare! History has often demonstrated rowboats and fishing boats thwarting world navies. In the opening naval battles of the American Revolutionary War, Benedict Arnold led the American fleet of such boats against the world's greatest naval superpower, and won. In more recent times, wargames within the US navy yielded similar results. In the 1980's Afghan tribal warriors armed with cheap (couple hundred dollar) rocket launchers were shooting down Soviet Hinds, the world's most advanced combat helicopters of the time.
bigger =/= better
On that note, I demand suicide runs... a frig pilot should be able to collide with a bigger ship, losing their ship and their pod, dealing the equivalent damage to a DD blast. |
Chopper Rollins
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
18
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Posted - 2011.10.05 08:07:00 -
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mkint wrote:
On that note, I demand suicide runs... a frig pilot should be able to collide with a bigger ship, losing their ship and their pod, dealing the equivalent damage to a DD blast.
At first i thought:"Yes...yessssss..." but then it ocurred to me it would happen every fifteen minutes or so at every mission hub and generally change the tenor and tone of the game. Remember, there's some SERIOUSLY sexually confused/frustrated people in New Eden. |
Samillian
Trojan Trolls Controlled Chaos
6
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Posted - 2011.10.05 08:56:00 -
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To the OP,
For your information skill and experience will 99 time out of a 100 win out against a massive ISK balance and the wrong ship setup.
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