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Walter Stine
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.10.04 21:07:00 -
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I am hereby calling on Darius the Third to relinquish his Counsel of Stellar Management (CSM) alternate seat as he has disgraced the office and no longer possesses the moral authority to continue on in this capacity.
Darius the Third, or Darius III, recently leaked information from the CSM Skype channel to EN24 editor Riverini violating the trust fellow members had placed in him and trampling over the spirit if not the letter of the Non Disclosure Agreement.
His actions have proven that he can no longer objectively represent the Eve Online community and as a result he should be relived of those duties through either voluntary resignation or forced abdication by CCP. |
Fix Lag
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.04 21:10:00 -
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I second this. |
Faife
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.10.04 21:11:00 -
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so say we all. |
Tribal Solidarity
Sacred Templars RED.OverLord
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Posted - 2011.10.04 21:12:00 -
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I second this |
Kaleb Rysode
Stargate SG-1 Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2011.10.04 21:12:00 -
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I support this proposal. |
Fras Siabi
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.10.04 21:13:00 -
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Kick Darious III. Test Alliance Sperg Squad |
Lorren Canada
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.10.04 21:21:00 -
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I too support this |
Belloch
Krait Corp Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2011.10.04 21:26:00 -
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So then you're establishing that this is the punishment for "leaking" information? Removal from the CSM?
I feel this is simply political maneuvering to remove the voice of the citizens that Darius represents. I find your tactics abhorrent, and I feel that it places a shadow of corruption on this council that will remain forever if this proposal is allowed to pass.
Darius is not the first of the CSM who has committed such a trivial transgression (if indeed he has committed any), and some of those councilors have posted in this very thread. You have provided no evidence, nor supplied the council with any compelling arguments that would lead any reasonable person to conclude that Darius should be removed from the Council.
A vote in support of this motion is a vote for corruption, lawlessness, hypocrisy, and exemplifies an utter disdain for this council and everything it stands for. |
Walter Stine
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.10.04 21:35:00 -
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Belloch wrote:So then you're establishing that this is the punishment for "leaking" information? Removal from the CSM?
I feel this is simply political maneuvering to remove the voice of the citizens that Darius represents. I find your tactics abhorrent, and I feel that it places a shadow of corruption on this council that will remain forever if this proposal is allowed to pass.
Darius is not the first of the CSM who has committed such a trivial transgression (if indeed he has committed any), and some of those councilors have posted in this very thread. You have provided no evidence, nor supplied the council with any compelling arguments that would lead any reasonable person to conclude that Darius should be removed from the Council.
A vote in support of this motion is a vote for corruption, lawlessness, hypocrisy, and exemplifies an utter disdain for this council and everything it stands for.
Apologist white washing at its finest.
The CSM represents all the voices within Eve, not just the ones who voted for them. His actions not only violate the trust placed in him by his fellow delegates but by CCP and the entire community as well.
A vote against this motion is a vote for corruption, lawlessness, hypocrisy, and exemplifies an utter disdain for this council and everything it stands for. |
Suliana Atavuli
Broski Federation Elite Space Guild
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Posted - 2011.10.04 21:36:00 -
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Belloch wrote:
Darius is not the first of the CSM who has committed such a trivial transgression (if indeed he has committed any), and some of those councilors have posted in this very thread. You have provided no evidence, nor supplied the council with any compelling arguments that would lead any reasonable person to conclude that Darius should be removed from the Council.
So you're saying that this is acceptable, and that we shouldn't consider repercussions for this or future transgressions? |
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Suliana Atavuli
Broski Federation Elite Space Guild
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Posted - 2011.10.04 21:37:00 -
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Belloch wrote:
Darius is not the first of the CSM who has committed such a trivial transgression (if indeed he has committed any), and some of those councilors have posted in this very thread. You have provided no evidence, nor supplied the council with any compelling arguments that would lead any reasonable person to conclude that Darius should be removed from the Council.
So you're saying that this is acceptable, and that we shouldn't consider repercussions for this or future transgressions? |
Eric Xallen
Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2011.10.04 21:37:00 -
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I support corruption, lawlessness, hypocrisy in this game. |
EI Digin
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.10.04 21:37:00 -
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Belloch wrote:A vote in support of this motion is a vote for corruption, lawlessness, hypocrisy, and exemplifies an utter disdain for this council and everything it stands for.
Not following a legal document that ensures that ccp can be frank with the csm, which is absolutely vital to keep the csm relevant, isn't trivial.
Do you really think removing a member who is leaking confidential material to his friends, and is breaking legal contracts makes you corrupt, lawless, and most importantly, hypocritical?
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lil Zyphad
SregginWaffe Elite Space Guild
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Posted - 2011.10.04 21:44:00 -
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I also feel violated by Darius the Third |
Karim alRashid
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.04 21:46:00 -
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Look at dat, dreddits .... |
Belloch
Krait Corp Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2011.10.04 21:48:00 -
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I assert that before _any_ decision is made, the accusers must bring forth Evidence of wrong-doing.
And in the event that evidence IS supplied and to be found incontrovertible and beyond reasonable doubt THEN the council must make a decision on how to proceed.
I would caution the following:
This evidence _must_ be verifiable and non-falsifiable. This evidence _must_ demonstrate that Darius committed acts that are specifically outlined and documented in the agreement he made. The evidence must exceed a threshold of reasonable doubt.
This is NOT a Kangaroo court, and I would pray that the citizens we have elected to guide us would not stand for burning someone at stake. Until this point we have nothing but trite accusations and heresay nonsense that is evidence of nothing other than political bantering.
Now.... In the event that such evidence is Supplied and Verified and accepted as being beyond a reasonable doubt, I would then caution ALL of the members of the council that the path forward sets a president. One that will be followed by councils that follow you and by burning Darius at the stake, you very well may likely be lighting a match to your own feet as well. |
Karim alRashid
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.04 21:53:00 -
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The cases of breach of an NDA are not at all a subject of debate between players, CSM and CCP.
Thus any proposals in Assembly Hall with such a topic are pointless and mentally challenged. |
Bienator II
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.10.04 22:23:00 -
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HD vid or it didn't happen. You fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail to jump because you are cloaked |
Drake Draconis
Shadow Cadre Shadow Confederation
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Posted - 2011.10.04 22:41:00 -
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As said alraedy... NDA stuff is handled by CCP and their legal department.... its none of our bloody business.
Short of your usual emo-rant-rage agianst CSM. |
Vertisce Soritenshi
SHADOW WARD Tragedy.
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Posted - 2011.10.05 00:44:00 -
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We are calling Darius a disgrace but not including Vile Rat and The Mittani in this?
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Woo Glin
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.05 00:50:00 -
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Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:We are calling Darius a disgrace but not including Vile Rat and The Mittani in this?
yes |
Woo Glin
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.05 00:50:00 -
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******* snipe down the drain |
Nariya Kentaya
Celestial Ascension
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Posted - 2011.10.05 00:53:00 -
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Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:We are calling Darius a disgrace but not including Vile Rat and The Mittani in this?
I say we just kick out the whole CSM and then mail every EVE player a golden fortune cookie, those that open and find a coupon for a free pet badger get to be on the next CSM.
but honestly, why bother removing anybody? half the CSM maneuvers to ahev the game shifted in them and theuir buddie's favor anyways, and thats certaintly not in the spirit of their position, and you seriosuly think NO member besides Darius MIGHT have released NDA realted material to SOMEONE? even a trickle? cause my friends who go to jury can't shut up about it and they are told to quiet by a legal court... honestly i say we just start kicking people out on the sheer reason that they got themselves elected.
im against this for these completely ridiculous reasons, but 90% im against this because i find the current CSM in it's form is rather funny to watch. |
Woo Glin
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.05 01:00:00 -
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lol XD u so randum |
HaydenJD
Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2011.10.05 03:05:00 -
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I support this. Inb4 lock. |
whaynethepain
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Posted - 2011.10.05 03:48:00 -
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I have confidence in the CSM, and progression is good. |
FOEHAMMER006
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.05 05:03:00 -
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I support this.
Everyone that doesn't support this is just mad? |
Grath Telkin
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2011.10.05 09:02:00 -
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IDGI Mittani leaked a ton of info to the people closest to him, Not sure why you're making such a big deal out of this guy doing it.
If he goes, Vile Rat and Mittani should go too.
I mean if you're going all balls out about it, you have an Ex Goon working for CCP who's now pushing through whatever ideas and game changes that Goons want.
Elections are soon enough anyway. |
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Industrial Complex Cosmic Consortium
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Posted - 2011.10.05 10:10:00 -
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Darius III is alleged to have "leaked" three lines of useless text from Skype, while The Mittani is developing an entire null sec empire's future strategy based on information he is privy to.
Which is the greater sin?
Trick question.
The answer is, "the only crime is getting caught"
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Mara Tessidar
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.05 16:11:00 -
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There can be only one Notify: You are eaten by the Whumpus
http://goo.gl/uX5vk |
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