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Beekeeper Bob
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
303
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Posted - 2012.11.28 03:15:00 -
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Andski wrote:Ioci wrote:On the topic of script fleet PvP, I never accused GSF of it. I've seen you guys shitup local. There is no debate you guys are active. So the other reply was right. You are paranoid. Right, there are no "PvP scripts" no matter how much you insist. Considering that their behavior would be ridiculously predictable, they would not be very feasible, and that doesn't even take into account the fact that they'd be quite noticeable. I do love all of the replies from those who think that bots are only a nullsec phenomenon, though
Why would anyone use PvP scripts, when isboxer is available? All you need is endless isk to fund all the alts, a quality gaming system and bam! Instant fleet.
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5613
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Posted - 2012.11.28 03:40:00 -
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Skydell wrote:Sisohiv wrote:EVE has PvP scripts and for anyone who doesn't believe that, force a Ti-Di and watch certain fleets crash and burn. As long as fleet based combat is the corner stone of Null, they will be there.
As for rat and mining bots, they will adapt. Games where the community is the power, they will abuse. Power, corruption, blah blah blah. We all know the creed. Keep spinning the spin, spin meister. Oh and yes, you are still talking to the same person.
so, evidence? ~*a-áproud belligerent undesirable*~
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SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
959
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Posted - 2012.11.28 04:08:00 -
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Beekeeper Bob wrote:Andski wrote:Ioci wrote:On the topic of script fleet PvP, I never accused GSF of it. I've seen you guys shitup local. There is no debate you guys are active. So the other reply was right. You are paranoid. Right, there are no "PvP scripts" no matter how much you insist. Considering that their behavior would be ridiculously predictable, they would not be very feasible, and that doesn't even take into account the fact that they'd be quite noticeable. I do love all of the replies from those who think that bots are only a nullsec phenomenon, though Why would anyone use PvP scripts, when isboxer is available? All you need is endless isk to fund all the alts, a quality gaming system and bam! Instant fleet.
Isboxer is pretty cool. We have one guy who runs his own bomber wing. |
Inquisitor Kitchner
Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes
536
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Posted - 2012.11.28 04:36:00 -
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BuckStrider wrote: Figures the first one to go all defensive would be some Goon.
You seem a little paranoid
I've seen how Goons fly, if they are using bots then I'd be sacking my programmer.
Ioci wrote:
On the topic of script fleet PvP, I never accused GSF of it. I've seen you guys shitup local. There is no debate you guys are active. So the other reply was right. You are paranoid.
Wait, what?
So expecting someone to provide even a shred of evidence to back up an extraordinary claim, regardless of what the claim is, now makes people paranoid?
What a crazy world we live in where expecting people to be able to back up what they say is labelled as "paranoid" "If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli |
SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
959
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Posted - 2012.11.28 05:21:00 -
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Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:
Wait, what?
So expecting someone to provide even a shred of evidence to back up an extraordinary claim, regardless of what the claim is, now makes people paranoid?
What a crazy world we live in where expecting people to be able to back up what they say is labelled as "paranoid"
Pretty much this. It just sounds like 2010 era "Sphere" bullshit. I mean there are cheat scripts in the game that make use of python injection and the like but they mainly affect things that can be changed at the client side. Some script that fires up tidi just sounds like nonsense. From my experience Tidi usually kicks in at gatecrossings then settles down. I can't think of any script that would be able to do that on a large scale.
Maybe isboxing a 1000 man fleet, but that's just stupid. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1801
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Posted - 2012.11.28 08:36:00 -
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SmilingVagrant wrote:Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:Wait, what?
So expecting someone to provide even a shred of evidence to back up an extraordinary claim, regardless of what the claim is, now makes people paranoid?
What a crazy world we live in where expecting people to be able to back up what they say is labelled as "paranoid" Pretty much this. It just sounds like 2010 era "Sphere" bullshit. I mean there are cheat scripts in the game that make use of python injection and the like but they mainly affect things that can be changed at the client side. Some script that fires up tidi just sounds like nonsense. From my experience Tidi usually kicks in at gatecrossings then settles down. I can't think of any script that would be able to do that on a large scale. Maybe isboxing a 1000 man fleet, but that's just stupid. Sounds like we all need to take a lesson on
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Darth Gustav
Interwebs Cooter Explosion Fatal Ascension
1823
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Posted - 2012.11.28 08:44:00 -
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Beekeeper Bob wrote:Andski wrote:Sisohiv wrote:EVE has PvP scripts and for anyone who doesn't believe that, force a Ti-Di and watch certain fleets crash and burn. As long as fleet based combat is the corner stone of Null, they will be there. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Andski, being coy? Everyone knows that deep 0.0 is filled with Bots, or nothing......
No, actually recently 77.3% of bots appear to be caught in high-sec, with just over 16.5% caught in null.
So it's high-sec that's full of bots, sorry Bob:
CCP Stillman wrote:I ran the numbers. And if anything, we're seeing a lower number of bots we're catching in high-sec, in favor of 0.0. But I don't think the trend is big enough for it to be more than speculation. To give you an idea, a best fit line on the data I have is like this:
High-sec: y1 = -0.0011x + 0.773 0.0: y2 = 0.0008x + 0.1651
You can sort of deduce from that how low-sec plays out. But regardless, I don't think we can really draw any conclusion from this data. He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom |
Escomboli
Hammer Holding Wrong Hole.
3
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Posted - 2012.11.28 09:00:00 -
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Andski wrote:BuckStrider wrote:Figures the first one to go all defensive would be some Goon.
You seem a little paranoid yeah guy I'm totally shaking in my boots because some npc alt poster is calling us out on these mythical PvP bot fleets, claiming they exist with not one iota of evidence
Shut your hooker mouth. |
Herr Esiq
Cube Zombie Consortium Antykythera Mechanism
0
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Posted - 2012.11.28 09:11:00 -
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Darth Gustav wrote:No, actually recently 77.3% of bots appear to be caught in high-sec, with just over 16.5% caught in null. So it's high-sec that's full of bots, sorry Bob: CCP Stillman wrote:I ran the numbers. And if anything, we're seeing a lower number of bots we're catching in high-sec, in favor of 0.0. But I don't think the trend is big enough for it to be more than speculation. To give you an idea, a best fit line on the data I have is like this:
High-sec: y1 = -0.0011x + 0.773 0.0: y2 = 0.0008x + 0.1651
You can sort of deduce from that how low-sec plays out. But regardless, I don't think we can really draw any conclusion from this data.
Couldnt that just mean more bots are caught in high-sec? I imagine a system of emptyness where bots farm 24/7 no-one would bother to report and less would get caught.
Whilst in high-sec i get accused for botting because i dont reply to convo-spam and dont reply to a wall of taunts. |
baltec1
Bat Country
2961
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Posted - 2012.11.28 13:34:00 -
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Herr Esiq wrote:Darth Gustav wrote:No, actually recently 77.3% of bots appear to be caught in high-sec, with just over 16.5% caught in null. So it's high-sec that's full of bots, sorry Bob: CCP Stillman wrote:I ran the numbers. And if anything, we're seeing a lower number of bots we're catching in high-sec, in favor of 0.0. But I don't think the trend is big enough for it to be more than speculation. To give you an idea, a best fit line on the data I have is like this:
High-sec: y1 = -0.0011x + 0.773 0.0: y2 = 0.0008x + 0.1651
You can sort of deduce from that how low-sec plays out. But regardless, I don't think we can really draw any conclusion from this data. Couldnt that just mean more bots are caught in high-sec? I imagine a system of emptyness where bots farm 24/7 no-one would bother to report and less would get caught. Whilst in high-sec i get accused for botting because i dont reply to convo-spam and dont reply to a wall of taunts. At least 50% of miners killed were easily identifiable as bots given that they continued warping to the station and back to the belt in a pod. Lonetrek and the forge are by far the most bot infested in all of EVE. |
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James Amril-Kesh
RAZOR Alliance
1362
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Posted - 2012.11.28 13:49:00 -
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Herr Esiq wrote:Darth Gustav wrote:No, actually recently 77.3% of bots appear to be caught in high-sec, with just over 16.5% caught in null. So it's high-sec that's full of bots, sorry Bob: CCP Stillman wrote:I ran the numbers. And if anything, we're seeing a lower number of bots we're catching in high-sec, in favor of 0.0. But I don't think the trend is big enough for it to be more than speculation. To give you an idea, a best fit line on the data I have is like this:
High-sec: y1 = -0.0011x + 0.773 0.0: y2 = 0.0008x + 0.1651
You can sort of deduce from that how low-sec plays out. But regardless, I don't think we can really draw any conclusion from this data. Couldnt that just mean more bots are caught in high-sec? I imagine a system of emptyness where bots farm 24/7 no-one would bother to report and less would get caught. Whilst in high-sec i get accused for botting because i dont reply to convo-spam and dont reply to a wall of taunts. I'm pretty sure CCP doesn't require players to report bots in order to find them. |
Ioci
Bad Girl Posse
239
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Posted - 2012.11.28 13:55:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote: I'm pretty sure CCP doesn't require players to report bots in order to find them.
And Goons don't need to bot their PvP. 3 times I pointed out I wasn't accusing Goons and they still ganked me 8:1 and that's only forum ganking The trouble with EVE is it runs so many 3rd party apps that are endorsed. If hacking and modding is your game, there is no way CCP is going to catch it. R.I.P. Vile Rat |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5617
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Posted - 2012.11.28 17:50:00 -
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Ioci wrote:If hacking and modding is your game, there is no way CCP is going to catch it.
keep making up more nonsense to back up prior nonsense ~*a-áproud belligerent undesirable*~
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James Amril-Kesh
RAZOR Alliance
1364
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Posted - 2012.11.29 00:30:00 -
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Ioci wrote:The trouble with EVE is it runs so many 3rd party apps that are endorsed. If hacking and modding is your game, there is no way CCP is going to catch it. None of these 3rd party apps interface directly with the game, with the exception of browser apps that interface in ways CCP explicitly designed the IGB to allow. |
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