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Aln Al-Thalab
Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2012.11.28 15:56:00 -
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A united Tribal liberation fleet came under attack by Late Night Alliance during an operation focused on the destruction of an Amarr infrastructure hub. The following video documents the joint TLF fleet, numbering over 40 in mostly battlecruisers:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTmqH5JKd4M&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Clearly, we had hoped that LNA would briefly aid thier brethren but had anticipated this cheap and cowardly assault. With disgust at such pettiness, Ushra'Khan pilots directed TLF allies to mind the true enemy, the Amarr, while thier own ships burned under traitorous fire.
http://kb.ushrakhan.com/?a=kill_related&kll_id=15321970
Several LNA pilots assert that they killed Ushra'Khan pilots because they feared the Amarr would destroy the TLF fleet and successfully defend the IHUB. Others state that they acted as such to prove thier prowess and honor in battle. Both claims defy logic. A combined, united TLF fleet would have destroyed the IHUB and devastated the Amarr fleet nearby - a fleet which numbered nearly 50 battlecruisers. I, for one, cannot deny the incredible abilities of pilots such as Braitai or Sumdumgi. PvP prowess? They have it, but they did not prove it here. There was no honor in LNA's attack on TLF in Floseswin. The IHUB was destroyed but the Amarr reveled in the uncontested presence of their fleet and undoubtedly celebrate the rift among thier enemies.
Here is where we plant our flag and rally. TLF celebrates the liberation of Floseswin at the hands on TLF, not LNA. Ushra'khan will aid in liberating Aset and purge Metropolis of the Amarr. LNA will not cause us to falter and we will come for our own. We will come for our own. |
Silas Vitalia
Nobilta Nera JIHADASQUAD
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Posted - 2012.11.28 16:32:00 -
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Matari grist for the war mill will kindly remember to refrain from links to 'killboards' on the IGS.
Sabik now, Sabik forever |
Katrina Oniseki
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2012.11.28 17:01:00 -
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CCP Spitfire wrote: Killmails & Killboards
Posting killmails, killboard links or screenshots of killboards will be considered as trolling or off-topic, and subject to removal or warning.
There will be no discussion allowed of privately run killboard issues/accuracies taking place in this forum.
It has been proven that such discussions inevitably invite ill-spirited comments and off-topic issues.
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Karmilla Strife
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2012.11.28 17:03:00 -
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A third U'K thread about LNA. Is Ston your new PR lead? |
Aln Al-Thalab
Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2012.11.28 17:19:00 -
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Mea culpa. Killboard posting removed.
Prior to this thread, the most recent posting was that of a seemingly pre-prepared statement by LNA. I give them props for timely propaganda, but offer video footage as evidence and a rebuttal of thier blatant attempts at deception. |
Katrina Oniseki
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
865
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Posted - 2012.11.28 17:22:00 -
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Karmilla Strife wrote:A third U'K thread about LNA. Is Ston your new PR lead?
Actually, the second thread was LNA about U'K.
Slight difference. |
Rek Jaiga
Teraa Matar White-Lotus
294
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Posted - 2012.11.29 07:17:00 -
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So wait. I basically retire to raise a family, and when the opportunity to return pops up I see this crap? I honestly can't say I'm surprised; LNA has always done what they wanted, when they wanted. I both admire this trait and sometimes wish it wouldn't crop up at the most inopportune times. But they took a system, right? I wish both parties good luck in kicking major Amarrian posterior. Call me up when you all finally get to taking Amarr itself!
Time to put little dresses on dollies and make funny voices for the daughter. I'll pad my killboard with bits of oatmeal and test my transversal against airborne spoons. |
Lorana Zumjmumber
Knights of Kador
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Posted - 2012.11.29 12:33:00 -
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So basically, a "U'K" not a TLF fleet is attacked, and shoved aside because... like always, they can't field anything that doesnt instantly warp or cloak.
This is news how? |
Silence iKillYouu
KA POW POW Inc Late Night Alliance
209
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Posted - 2012.11.29 19:24:00 -
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Nice propaganda guys. U can't push us around http://fw-frontline.blogspot.com/ |
Braitai
Ice Fire Warriors Late Night Alliance
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Posted - 2012.11.30 00:16:00 -
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More lies from UK.
Some facts.
1. NO none-UK members were targeted by LNA. None, so the title to this thread is a lie. We did not target TLF, we targetted UK. UK are pushing the line that all of TLF are at risk from LNA and that you should all band together to fight us, this request is based on a lie.
2. There was no cease-fire agreement, no truce. If UK believed there was, then their leadership is incompetent and their followers should demand compensation for their mistake.
3. Attacks BY UK comprised part of the reason for this war-dec. Confusion reigns when friendlies shoot friendlies, as we have found out after being the target off UK's (And DK's) guns on and off for a number of months. We made no game of what is happening, we initiated a war-dec so UK would not be confused when we shot them.
4. In the previous thread, the following statement was made by a member of UK.
Aln Al-Thalab wrote:Though a net gain of firepower remained, LNA hamstrung the Minmatar ability to engage the Amarr fleet which would have easily fallen to a combined TLF.
I honestly can't tell at this point whether UK truely believe the nonsense they are peddling. If LNA had left UK alone, and we had all worked together to take down the Amarr teir3 gang... many of you would have your ships, and it may have escalated to us losing ours as well.
None of us were equipped to combat that fleet, and given the obvious lack of any kind of fleet doctrine among the group of ships attacking the bunker when we arrived I doubt reshipping to an appropriate counter was a viable option.
I detest inter-militia war-decs, they're confusing at the best of times and I prefer more control over the battlefield. I will even go as far as to say that LNA diplomacy fails more often than it should (I don't personally utilise any influence I might have in this regard). However, the more of UK's drivel I read, the more I realise that this war-dec was the correct course of action.
It's been a long time since UK were at their peak of operation. Right now, UK obviously have influence (or at the very least, desire influence) over the wider militia. The fact is we simply can't afford to have people who exhibit this level of incompetence and/or duplicity making strategic decisions for the TLF.
UK need to stand down from their public positions, clean house, and accept that we're going to shoot them until Bahamut420 says otherwise. |
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Katrina Oniseki
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
876
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Posted - 2012.11.30 00:20:00 -
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Braitai wrote: UK need to ... accept that we're going to shoot them until Bahamut420 says otherwise.
See, if you could have just said that and ONLY that right from the beginning with nothing else to follow... LNA's Public Relations would be at 100% efficiency, and arguably much better than U'K in that department.
Take it from me: Resist the urge to argue when running PR. |
Amun Khonsu
Royal Order of Security Specialists Late Night Alliance
57
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Posted - 2012.11.30 00:32:00 -
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Fancy video.
Glad we cleared you out before you attacked us. We reinforced your tower in the system afterwards.
Speaking of tower reinforcement.
I'd also like to know why Ushra Khan (even though it had 2 allies in this war) brought in 3 neutral alliances to fight their Minmatar brethren?
The Big Dirty The Mokers AO Weyland Mining and Exploration Directorate
Again, it seems you are the ones trying to destroy the Minmatar Militia not just by making your private problems with LNA public in militia but also farming out help from people who are not even in a CONCORD sanctioned war or ally.
In fact, the Mokers AO have sat at plex gates and stargates in the Minmatar warzone and obliterated every Minmatar pilot that comes through the gates to carry out his duties for the Republic. Yet, you flew with a fleet of 13 of them, including their leadership.
Fight them until turmoil is no more and strike terror into their hearts. |
Aln Al-Thalab
Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan
11
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Posted - 2012.11.30 00:40:00 -
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Braitai wrote:More lies from UK. Some facts. 1. NO none-UK members were targeted by LNA. None, so the title to this thread is a lie. We did not target TLF, we targetted UK. UK are pushing the line that all of TLF are at risk from LNA and that you should all band together to fight us, this request is based on a lie. 2. There was no cease-fire agreement, no truce. If UK believed there was, then their leadership is incompetent and their followers should demand compensation for their mistake. 3. Attacks BY UK comprised part of the reason for this war-dec. Confusion reigns when friendlies shoot friendlies, as we have found out after being the target off UK's (And DK's) guns on and off for a number of months. We made no game of what is happening, we initiated a war-dec so UK would not be confused when we shot them. 4. In the previous thread, the following statement was made by a member of UK. Aln Al-Thalab wrote:Though a net gain of firepower remained, LNA hamstrung the Minmatar ability to engage the Amarr fleet which would have easily fallen to a combined TLF. I honestly can't tell at this point whether UK truely believe the nonsense they are peddling. If LNA had left UK alone, and we had all worked together to take down the Amarr teir3 gang... many of you would have your ships, and it may have escalated to us losing ours as well. None of us were equipped to combat that fleet, and given the obvious lack of any kind of fleet doctrine among the group of ships attacking the bunker when we arrived I doubt reshipping to an appropriate counter was a viable option. I detest inter-militia war-decs, they're confusing at the best of times and I prefer more control over the battlefield. I will even go as far as to say that LNA diplomacy fails more often than it should (I don't personally utilise any influence I might have in this regard). However, the more of UK's drivel I read, the more I realise that this war-dec was the correct course of action. It's been a long time since UK were at their peak of operation. Right now, UK obviously have influence (or at the very least, desire influence) over the wider militia. The fact is we simply can't afford to have people who exhibit this level of incompetence and/or duplicity making strategic decisions for the TLF. UK need to stand down from their public positions, clean house, and accept that we're going to shoot them until Bahamut420 says otherwise.
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Amun Khonsu
Royal Order of Security Specialists Late Night Alliance
57
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Posted - 2012.11.30 00:43:00 -
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Braitai wrote:More lies from UK. Some facts. 1. NO none-UK members were targeted by LNA. None, so the title to this thread is a lie. We did not target TLF, we targetted UK. UK are pushing the line that all of TLF are at risk from LNA and that you should all band together to fight us, this request is based on a lie. 2. There was no cease-fire agreement, no truce. If UK believed there was, then their leadership is incompetent and their followers should demand compensation for their mistake. 3. Attacks BY UK comprised part of the reason for this war-dec. Confusion reigns when friendlies shoot friendlies, as we have found out after being the target off UK's (And DK's) guns on and off for a number of months. We made no game of what is happening, we initiated a war-dec so UK would not be confused when we shot them. 4. In the previous thread, the following statement was made by a member of UK. Aln Al-Thalab wrote:Though a net gain of firepower remained, LNA hamstrung the Minmatar ability to engage the Amarr fleet which would have easily fallen to a combined TLF. I honestly can't tell at this point whether UK truely believe the nonsense they are peddling. If LNA had left UK alone, and we had all worked together to take down the Amarr teir3 gang... many of you would have your ships, and it may have escalated to us losing ours as well. None of us were equipped to combat that fleet, and given the obvious lack of any kind of fleet doctrine among the group of ships attacking the bunker when we arrived I doubt reshipping to an appropriate counter was a viable option. I detest inter-militia war-decs, they're confusing at the best of times and I prefer more control over the battlefield. I will even go as far as to say that LNA diplomacy fails more often than it should (I don't personally utilise any influence I might have in this regard). However, the more of UK's drivel I read, the more I realise that this war-dec was the correct course of action. It's been a long time since UK were at their peak of operation. Right now, UK obviously have influence (or at the very least, desire influence) over the wider militia. The fact is we simply can't afford to have people who exhibit this level of incompetence and/or duplicity making strategic decisions for the TLF. UK need to stand down from their public positions, clean house, and accept that we're going to shoot them until Bahamut420 says otherwise.
Well said.
Fight them until turmoil is no more and strike terror into their hearts. |
Amun Khonsu
Royal Order of Security Specialists Late Night Alliance
57
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Posted - 2012.11.30 00:47:00 -
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Aln Al-Thalab wrote:Mea culpa. Killboard posting removed.
Prior to this thread, the most recent posting was that of a seemingly pre-prepared statement by LNA. I give them props for timely propaganda, but offer video footage as evidence and a rebuttal of thier blatant attempts at deception.
All statements on this event were made after the event. We dont work like you who feel the need to justify your spin by carefully preparing what to video and what to say prior to the events taking place. Fight them until turmoil is no more and strike terror into their hearts. |
Amun Khonsu
Royal Order of Security Specialists Late Night Alliance
57
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Posted - 2012.11.30 00:53:00 -
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Aln Al-Thalab wrote:A united Tribal liberation fleet came under attack by Late Night Alliance during an operation focused on the destruction of an Amarr infrastructure hub. The following video documents the joint TLF fleet, numbering over 40 in mostly battlecruisers: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTmqH5JKd4M&feature=youtube_gdata_playerClearly, we had hoped that LNA would briefly aid thier brethren but had anticipated this cheap and cowardly assault. With disgust at such pettiness, Ushra'Khan pilots directed TLF allies to mind the true enemy, the Amarr, while thier own ships burned under traitorous fire. The LNA carrier-supported BS fleet forced U'K from the field with moderate casualties. Several LNA pilots assert that they killed Ushra'Khan pilots because they feared the Amarr would destroy the TLF fleet and successfully defend the IHUB. Others state that they acted as such to prove thier prowess and honor in battle. Both claims defy logic. A combined, united TLF fleet would have destroyed the IHUB and devastated the Amarr fleet nearby - a fleet which numbered nearly 50 battlecruisers. I, for one, cannot deny the incredible abilities of pilots such as Braitai or Sumdumgi. PvP prowess? They have it, but they did not prove it here. There was no honor in LNA's attack on TLF in Floseswin. The IHUB was destroyed but the Amarr reveled in the uncontested presence of their fleet and undoubtedly celebrate the rift among thier enemies. Here is where we plant our flag and rally. TLF celebrates the liberation of Floseswin at the hands on TLF, not LNA. Ushra'khan will aid in liberating Aset and purge Metropolis of the Amarr. LNA will not cause us to falter and we will come for our own. We will come for our own.
I am truly honoured that you went through the trouble of making a propaganda video about our killing of Ushra Khan. I love the comms. That is eactly how we cleared you out.
We did not attack TLF. Only you traitorous agent provacatuers. TLF was allowed to continue to do their jobs and kill the iHub unhindered.
We merely replaced your lame fleet with a better one to take the ihub faster. Fight them until turmoil is no more and strike terror into their hearts. |
Amun Khonsu
Royal Order of Security Specialists Late Night Alliance
57
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Posted - 2012.11.30 04:45:00 -
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Sorting Ushra Khan Propaganda Fight them until turmoil is no more and strike terror into their hearts. |
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