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Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2012.12.04 12:43:00 -
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Brace yourselves.
Most of it apparently feels like Peter Jackson's "Slow Boat to Skull Island".
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/59869 RIP Vile Rat-á "The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about." - Oscar Wilde |
Brujo Loco
Brujeria Teologica
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Posted - 2012.12.04 13:20:00 -
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Hmmm ... considering Im a fanboi of anything LOTR, I will enjoy the movie nonetheless. Though I wasnt expecting a trilogy (a truly boneheaded cash grabbin move) I still will enjoy it for the simple fact it brings to an end a cycle of movies dedicated to the works of Tolkien.
But deep down, I know that what is to blame is the high expectations people have for the film. The Hobbit story is much simpler, almost "classical". I remember reading it to kids at the hospital and mostly to make them sleep.
If people are expecting this to be an action no holds barred full contact epic fest, they wont find it in the first movie anyway.
Perhaps the Battle of the Five Armies will be depicted in gruesome detail and make the trilogy worth it, and for me, Im still waiting to see the friendly Beorn in the "flesh" , always loved the big werebear , even if his part was minuscule.
So, yeah I feel from the movie (part one at least) it will be aimed mostly at the people that decried the inaccurateness of some parts in the first trilogy.
If the reviewer feels Bilbo (and the actor) a bit overacting, trust me, he hit it spot on. Now, if this will be a mainstream appeal film, dont know, too early to tell.
My only fear is if the movie flunks, if they will have enough money to finish the other two.
I REALLY REALLY want to see Beorn and his friends ripping warg, bat and goblin flesh :) (specially big bad nasty putrid Beolg)
Ahhh, started with a bit of worry, but then ... left with high hopes. If its so accurate its almost reading the book slowly, I will enjoy it! Inner Sayings of BrujoLoco: http://eve-files.com/sig/brujoloco |
Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2012.12.04 13:32:00 -
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Brujo Loco wrote:Hmmm ... considering Im a fanboi of anything LOTR, I will enjoy the movie nonetheless. Though I wasnt expecting a trilogy (a truly boneheaded cash grabbin move) I still will enjoy it for the simple fact it brings to an end a cycle of movies dedicated to the works of Tolkien. But deep down, I know that what is to blame is the high expectations people have for the film. The Hobbit story is much simpler, almost "classical". I remember reading it to kids at the hospital and mostly to make them sleep. If people are expecting this to be an action no holds barred full contact epic fest, they wont find it in the first movie anyway. Perhaps the Battle of the Five Armies will be depicted in gruesome detail and make the trilogy worth it, and for me, Im still waiting to see the friendly Beorn in the "flesh" , always loved the big werebear , even if his part was minuscule. So, yeah I feel from the movie (part one at least) it will be aimed mostly at the people that decried the inaccurateness of some parts in the first trilogy. If the reviewer feels Bilbo (and the actor) a bit overacting, trust me, he hit it spot on. Now, if this will be a mainstream appeal film, dont know, too early to tell. My only fear is if the movie flunks, if they will have enough money to finish the other two. I REALLY REALLY want to see Beorn and his friends ripping warg, bat and goblin flesh :) (specially big bad nasty putrid Beolg) Ahhh, started with a bit of worry, but then ... left with high hopes. If its so accurate its almost reading the book slowly, I will enjoy it!
As with the original trilogy, all 3 parts are essentially finished as they were made at the same time.
But, my one fear apparently came true:
The new 48 FPS usage is a disaster.
I saw a documentary once filmed at 48 FPS and everything looked too real.
Apparently that is the case here...suddenly the sets look like sets, the makeup looks obviously like makeup, et al.
I groaned when they announced this useage of 48 FPS, and it took a giant whipping in the media when footage was previewed back in April.
Apparently, nobody will say "No, bad idea" to Peter Jackson any longer, ala George Lucas. RIP Vile Rat-á "The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about." - Oscar Wilde |
Brujo Loco
Brujeria Teologica
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Posted - 2012.12.04 13:36:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Apparently, nobody will say "No, bad idea" to Peter Jackson any longer, ala George Lucas.
Well, to keep my mental sanity on I will pretend I-¦m at the THEATER (like a Thespian one) and Im seeing live actors, only way I could rationalize the CRISPNESS of everything.
Now that you talk about that I was watching some of the HD trailers ... I was noticing everything looked a bit too fake too ... that dreaded moment when realism destroys imagination by pretending to make imagination more realist.
Ugh ...
Also great for the whole movie being finished, I have tried to keep away from most anything related to the movie to avoid any spoilers in presentation (but kinda hard when you know the book by heart) But so far I have tried to distantiate myself from the film to truly watch it unbiased, but the review link was just too tempting ...
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Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2012.12.04 13:41:00 -
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Brujo Loco wrote: Now that you talk about that I was watching some of the HD trailers ... I was noticing everything looked a bit too fake too ... that dreaded moment when realism destroys imagination by pretending to make imagination more realist.
Ugh ...
Film (as in Cinema) needs a kind of 'fog', or the unreality of the reality (does that make sense) allows for no suspension of disbelief. It all goes out the window.
I knew this would be the public response.
A friend nay-sayed me back in ihe summer. I am now owed $100 on a bet. RIP Vile Rat-á "The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about." - Oscar Wilde |
Serptimis
Reds in Local
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Posted - 2012.12.04 20:24:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Brujo Loco wrote: Now that you talk about that I was watching some of the HD trailers ... I was noticing everything looked a bit too fake too ... that dreaded moment when realism destroys imagination by pretending to make imagination more realist.
Ugh ...
Film (as in Cinema) needs a kind of 'fog', or the unreality of the reality (does that make sense) allows for no suspension of disbelief. It all goes out the window. I knew this would be the public response. A friend nay-sayed me back in ihe summer. I am now owed $100 on a bet. This is why I cant watch a lot of movies on HD TV's, they look like documentaries, it feels wrong. And yeah, stringing out the book into 3 movies def smacks of blatant cash grab. |
Webvan
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.12.04 20:32:00 -
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Brujo Loco wrote: I still will enjoy it for the simple fact it brings to an end a cycle of movies dedicated to the works of Tolkien ! The Silmarillion -only if it were made into a movie ...or better yet an animation (not 3D). |
Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
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Posted - 2012.12.04 21:10:00 -
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Serptimis wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Brujo Loco wrote: Now that you talk about that I was watching some of the HD trailers ... I was noticing everything looked a bit too fake too ... that dreaded moment when realism destroys imagination by pretending to make imagination more realist.
Ugh ...
Film (as in Cinema) needs a kind of 'fog', or the unreality of the reality (does that make sense) allows for no suspension of disbelief. It all goes out the window. I knew this would be the public response. A friend nay-sayed me back in ihe summer. I am now owed $100 on a bet. This is why I cant watch a lot of movies on HD TV's, they look like documentaries, it feels wrong. And yeah, stringing out the book into 3 movies def smacks of blatant cash grab.
The choice to go with three movies is much more likely because of one simple thing. They know that these are the last middle-earth movies they're ever going to make. They wanted to show on the big screen many of the events, that happen during the same time period, but the book doesn't cover. They had the choice of either abandoning those ideas entirely or go for it all now, when the funding was there, and make it a trilogy. |
Grimpak
Midnight Elites Echelon Rising
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Posted - 2012.12.04 21:24:00 -
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Webvan wrote:Brujo Loco wrote: I still will enjoy it for the simple fact it brings to an end a cycle of movies dedicated to the works of Tolkien ! The Silmarillion -only if it were made into a movie ...or better yet an animation (not 3D). sensorial overload due to the massive ammount of data needed to process. no, really the book is awesome, but extremely complex. [img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]
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Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2012.12.04 21:35:00 -
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Serptimis wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Brujo Loco wrote: Now that you talk about that I was watching some of the HD trailers ... I was noticing everything looked a bit too fake too ... that dreaded moment when realism destroys imagination by pretending to make imagination more realist.
Ugh ...
Film (as in Cinema) needs a kind of 'fog', or the unreality of the reality (does that make sense) allows for no suspension of disbelief. It all goes out the window. I knew this would be the public response. A friend nay-sayed me back in ihe summer. I am now owed $100 on a bet. This is why I cant watch a lot of movies on HD TV's, they look like documentaries, it feels wrong. And yeah, stringing out the book into 3 movies def smacks of blatant cash grab.
Well, at least the filler should be interesting as a lot is derived from the LOTR Appendix and a few of the 'unpublished' writings. RIP Vile Rat-á "The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about." - Oscar Wilde |
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Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2012.12.04 21:36:00 -
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Webvan wrote:Brujo Loco wrote: I still will enjoy it for the simple fact it brings to an end a cycle of movies dedicated to the works of Tolkien ! The Silmarillion -only if it were made into a movie ...or better yet an animation (not 3D).
Silmarillion would make a great, really stylized mini-series. RIP Vile Rat-á "The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about." - Oscar Wilde |
Sidus Isaacs
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.12.05 00:02:00 -
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Grimpak wrote:Webvan wrote:Brujo Loco wrote: I still will enjoy it for the simple fact it brings to an end a cycle of movies dedicated to the works of Tolkien ! The Silmarillion -only if it were made into a movie ...or better yet an animation (not 3D). sensorial overload due to the massive ammount of data needed to process. no, really the book is awesome, but extremely complex.
I would not really call it complex, because it is not really so. It just have a **** ton of names in it :) |
Nerath Naaris
Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy
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Posted - 2012.12.05 00:50:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Webvan wrote:Brujo Loco wrote: I still will enjoy it for the simple fact it brings to an end a cycle of movies dedicated to the works of Tolkien ! The Silmarillion -only if it were made into a movie ...or better yet an animation (not 3D). Silmarillion would make a great, really stylized mini-series.
The Silmarillion is just epic and a lot moreso than LotR. However I cannot see how that one can be made into a movie ore even a multitude of movies without completly losing that epicness. Also, the vast majority of people would not understand it and the hardcore fans on the other hand are probably mostly purists and would not accept a watered-down version.
So no, that is most likely never going to happen.
Though Jude Law as Sauron before his fall would be awesome... Forum-unbanned since 2011.10.20. |
Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
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Posted - 2012.12.05 02:14:00 -
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Nerath Naaris wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Webvan wrote:Brujo Loco wrote: I still will enjoy it for the simple fact it brings to an end a cycle of movies dedicated to the works of Tolkien ! The Silmarillion -only if it were made into a movie ...or better yet an animation (not 3D). Silmarillion would make a great, really stylized mini-series. The Silmarillion is just epic and a lot moreso than LotR. However I cannot see how that one can be made into a movie ore even a multitude of movies without completly losing that epicness. Also, the vast majority of people would not understand it and the hardcore fans on the other hand are probably mostly purists and would not accept a watered-down version. So no, that is most likely never going to happen. Though Jude Law as Sauron before his fall would be awesome...
You're propably right. Silmarillion is pretty weak as far as stories go and it simply is not a well written book. It's something even many Tolkien fans only read once and never pick up again. It certainly has loads of interesting ideas for film makers to expand on and tell stories about, but it isn't that popular and would require a large budget to do justice to all the gods, monsters and wars it has. It's not exactly a good recipe for box office gold. |
AlleyKat
The Unwanted.
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Posted - 2012.12.05 03:10:00 -
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I'm sure you don't have to watch it in 3D...
Guess you can't please some people though.
For years everyone bitched about 23.976 being too much like a blurry mess (me included) with dealing with action films because the cinematographer didn't open the shutter to the correct amount, like a film school reject.
48/47.96 is a fuckin' god send, because now I can sit in the front row and have my vision dominated by the movie without puking on whichever friend's wife I feel like taking.
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Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2012.12.05 05:10:00 -
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AlleyKat wrote:I'm sure you don't have to watch it in 3D...
We were discussing 48 FPS, not 3D. RIP Vile Rat-á "The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about." - Oscar Wilde |
pussnheels
The Fiction Factory
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Posted - 2012.12.05 08:21:00 -
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not a good year , first , the news of ESO and now a dissapointing preview of a long awaited film thid yime i willprobably wait for all parts to come out in a special edition box
in the mean time i just start rereading all the main books again ( the hobbit, LOTR , silmarillion ) i bet i will enjpy them again like so many times before I do not agree with what you are saying , but i will defend to the death your right to say it...... Voltaire |
Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2012.12.05 13:23:00 -
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I've actually read the Silmarillion 5 times through.
Anyone else beat that ??
I'm still sane I think............. RIP Vile Rat-á "The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about." - Oscar Wilde |
AlleyKat
The Unwanted.
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Posted - 2012.12.05 17:11:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:We were discussing 48 FPS, not 3D.
My point is relevant to the discussion: people are bitching about the fps and 3D combined, outside this thread of course, because no one here has seen it.
IF you want to have a discussion about 48 fps in cinema, open a new thread and I'll specifically chime accordingly, but for now...
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Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2012.12.05 17:19:00 -
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AlleyKat wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:We were discussing 48 FPS, not 3D. My point is relevant to the discussion: people are bitching about the fps and 3D combined, outside this thread of course, because no one here has seen it. IF you want to have a discussion about 48 fps in cinema, open a new thread and I'll specifically chime accordingly, but for now... AK
I see no complaining about 3D at all, but plenty for the few of us that have experienced 48 fps.
My first time was actually a film at Disney World and that was in 1978 so it's already an ancient technology.....with many reasons why it didn't fly. (It's so realistic and the brain takes in so much more visual information it feels like some kind of weird 'slow motion').
And sure enough at the preview footage last April the awfulness of the process overrode any rational discussion of what was actually seen in the trailer.
Big mistake Mr. Jackson. I'll see it at 24/sec thank you. RIP Vile Rat-á "The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about." - Oscar Wilde |
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Kitty Bear
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Posted - 2012.12.05 23:57:00 -
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Ive seen many films over the years that critics have slated as subpar etc
Oddly I enjoyed almost all of them immensly Critics and thier opinions are over-rated.
I'll be going to see this in a few weeks, and I will probably enjoy it too. |
AlleyKat
The Unwanted.
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Posted - 2012.12.06 01:00:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:I see no complaining about 3D at all, but plenty for the few of us that have experienced 48 fps.
My first time was actually a film at Disney World and that was in 1978 so it's already an ancient technology.....with many reasons why it didn't fly. (It's so realistic and the brain takes in so much more visual information it feels like some kind of weird 'slow motion').
And sure enough at the preview footage last April the awfulness of the process overrode any rational discussion of what was actually seen in the trailer.
Big mistake Mr. Jackson. I'll see it at 24/sec thank you.
Not gonna be a problem, seeing how only 5% of screens actually have the power, capability and know-how to be able to project an image at an advanced frame rate.
My monitor is 60 fps, doesn't feel like it is going in slow motion to me, in fact, I kinda wish it were double that for bunny-hop, bunny-hop, kapow, pew pew gaming.
The more frames per second the better, sorry. And...isn't reality at an unlimited frame rate already? and it's in 3D as well?
AK GÇ£You go into combat, and itGÇÖs NOT going to be WagnerGǪindustrial techno or really hard drum and bassGÇ¥ Reynir Hardarson, founding member of CCP Games, 2002. |
Webvan
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.12.06 07:08:00 -
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Grimpak wrote:Webvan wrote:Brujo Loco wrote: I still will enjoy it for the simple fact it brings to an end a cycle of movies dedicated to the works of Tolkien ! The Silmarillion -only if it were made into a movie ...or better yet an animation (not 3D). sensorial overload due to the massive ammount of data needed to process. no, really the book is awesome, but extremely complex. Yeah that's why I'd go with animated, would seem easier to produce compared to live actor film. It would be rather lengthy, not just a single 2 hr movie. I really like the animated movies of the hobbit and lotr (decades old), more the style but maybe higher detail. In any case, in that form, the animation work would be a lot easier compared to the older animated movies, all the hand work to produce those compared to today's computer animation tools. Not sure why EEEEeeeverything needs to be 3D these days though (CG and live), ...hehe much like happened in the late 70's for a few years and then died. Old cel animations still look awesome, have artistic style. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2012.12.06 15:53:00 -
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Kitty Bear wrote: Critics and thier opinions are over-rated.
I depends on the critic.
Ebert tends to hit things right on the nose, or do really smart things like reviewing the 30 Anni of "Pink Flamingoes" whre he awarded it, not Zero Stars, but a disclaimer that "in this case, Stars are irrelevant"
He is also extremely well read, and I often catch him even referring to ancient sci-Fi short stories, not even novels.
The man is very well read.
Also, he Tweeted about the Computer Games being admitted to the NY MoMA at least 8 hours before CCP even announced it.
Also, he will change his mind. He hated every david Lynch film untin Mullholland Drive, and gave it and INLAND EMPIRE glowing 4 Star Reviews surprisingly.
Just my 2 ISK worth.
Besides, without pioneering critics such as Pauline Kael, we would not have the correct language to approach the language of cinema light and sound. Try writing a critical review (not a plot summary) of 2001 without the properly developed discourse, and it would be disastrous. RIP Vile Rat-á "The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about." - Oscar Wilde |
Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2012.12.06 15:56:00 -
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AlleyKat wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:I see no complaining about 3D at all, but plenty for the few of us that have experienced 48 fps.
My first time was actually a film at Disney World and that was in 1978 so it's already an ancient technology.....with many reasons why it didn't fly. (It's so realistic and the brain takes in so much more visual information it feels like some kind of weird 'slow motion').
And sure enough at the preview footage last April the awfulness of the process overrode any rational discussion of what was actually seen in the trailer.
Big mistake Mr. Jackson. I'll see it at 24/sec thank you. Not gonna be a problem, seeing how only 5% of screens actually have the power, capability and know-how to be able to project an image at an advanced frame rate. My monitor is 60 fps, doesn't feel like it is going in slow motion to me, in fact, I kinda wish it were double that for bunny-hop, bunny-hop, kapow, pew pew gaming. The more frames per second the better, sorry. And...isn't reality at an unlimited frame rate already? and it's in 3D as well? AK
It has indeed a different effect in computer games in that the images are digitally created and already have a sense of unreality about them that acts as that 'cinematic fog'. Also, the videos and movies you watch are not filmed at 48 or 60 fps either, so a video card displaying at 60 will make no difference there.
Now, go watch a documentary film shot at that rate, and I'll buy you some aspirin for afterwords. RIP Vile Rat-á "The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about." - Oscar Wilde |
Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2012.12.06 16:01:00 -
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Webvan wrote:
Oh as for this movie, slow boat and all, not all adventures are jam packed full of action. Isn't that sort of how the hobbit was anyway? Less sword battles and more thinking I thought. I mean there were battles, but it didn't seem to engulf the plot as much like in lotr.
That entire sequence in "King Kong" was so long in the tooth, I could not finish the movie in one sitting.
I found the entire film a dull bore, even though 'slow' rarely turns me off. I'm one who can sit endlessly through "Tree of Life" and "Koyaanisqatsi" (not even any dialogue or characters for that matter).
It's clumsy slowness I am talking about here, and with King Kong, Peter Jackson proved himself a master at that.
Again, I fear he has reached that 'level' where nobody will tell him "No, bad idea".
Also, this seems to be a unanimous complaint from the other 2 'joe public' reviews I've read of The Hobbit.
Strange because the entire 11 1/2 hour Extended version of LOTR had not one single pacing issue AT ALL.
But then nothing lasts forever.......... RIP Vile Rat-á "The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about." - Oscar Wilde |
AlleyKat
The Unwanted.
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Posted - 2012.12.06 22:15:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:It has indeed a different effect in computer games in that the images are digitally created and already have a sense of unreality about them that acts as that 'cinematic fog'. Also, the videos and movies you watch are not filmed at 48 or 60 fps either, so a video card displaying at 60 will make no difference there.
Now, go watch a documentary film shot at that rate, and I'll buy you some aspirin for afterwords.
Sorry, but this is where I tell you your opinion is flawed.
You, perhaps, are confusing shutter speed and angle with frames per second. Since digital cameras have no rotating shutter it is simulated via software and/or embedded operating systems in the camera.
There (perhaps) is a reasoned argument to be had regarding poor cinematography or an incompetent DoP on set/location using incorrect shutter speed/angle when filming.
If you get this concept wrong, then maybe, just maybe, you may feel some discomfort when viewing scenes with a lot of motion in them - and this could theoretically be further complicated if there is CGI on screen which perhaps could be rendered at the wrong fps and shutter speed for motion blur.
BUT!
I would be utterly shocked if Peter Jackson and his company would make such a gross film reject error like that. I guess I'm gonna need more information.
As for a documentary, I would say the same thing - if a total n00b of a DoP was involved and the post production processes were not managed properly by intelligent people, AND the documentary had a lot of motion in it, then yes there could be an issue. But this would be the case for any film, regardless of the frame rate.
And then there is the topic of Depth of Field, which I could spend all day boring the crap out of you with, but it's totally related to resulting poor cinematography and shutter speed/angle adjustments. Oh, and lenses too...that's a pretty big consideration.
If you take a look at The Avengers from earlier this year, they had film cameras (ArriFlex 435) with in-camera speed ramps and Panavision lenses. They also had Canon 5D, 7D using Canon lenses and of course the Arri Alexa digital film camera also using Panavision lenses. I think the also used a few shots with Frazier lenses too, to get those hard to reach shots and also mind-blowing DoF. A very complex and lengthy post production for sure - but at no point did anyone mess up it up, probably due to Seamus McGarvey being the DoP.
Another point you could be confusing this with (in reference to CGI) is "The Uncanny Valley".
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Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2012.12.06 22:36:00 -
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um...no. You have never experienced it, and you know nothing.
Thanks for spewing crap all over this otherwise fine thread.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2241758/Hobbit-film-wizardy-left-feeling-sick--Cinema-goers-complain-camera-speeds-3D-effects-caused-headaches-queasiness.html
EDIT: ...and exercising the block button. RIP Vile Rat-á "The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about." - Oscar Wilde |
Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2012.12.06 22:42:00 -
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Now back to reality. Here are more reviews with links.
The main issues are the 'Slow Boat Out of the Shire' first half, and the 48 fps shot in 3D. It looks too much like 50 fps TV Video apparently.
This one might get Blu-ray money from me, but I'm beginning to think a theatrical viewing of this is not worth the trouble. I need more reviews first from 'regular people' though.
http://blogs.indiewire.com/thompsononhollywood/hobbit-first-reactions RIP Vile Rat-á "The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about." - Oscar Wilde |
Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2012.12.06 22:46:00 -
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Webvan wrote:Grimpak wrote:Webvan wrote:Brujo Loco wrote: I still will enjoy it for the simple fact it brings to an end a cycle of movies dedicated to the works of Tolkien ! The Silmarillion -only if it were made into a movie ...or better yet an animation (not 3D). sensorial overload due to the massive ammount of data needed to process. no, really the book is awesome, but extremely complex. Yeah that's why I'd go with animated, would seem easier to produce compared to live actor film. It would be rather lengthy, not just a single 2 hr movie. I really like the animated movies of the hobbit and lotr (decades old), more the style but maybe higher detail. In any case, in that form, the animation work would be a lot easier compared to the older animated movies, all the hand work to produce those compared to today's computer animation tools. Not sure why EEEEeeeverything needs to be 3D these days though (CG and live), ...hehe much like happened in the late 70's for a few years and then died. Old cel animations still look awesome, have artistic style.
I agree with 70's animation being spectacular....I even saw Bakshi's "Wizard" on opening day.
But Disney already made a failed attempt in the 60's and Bakshi's and Rankin/Bass LOTR were god awful.
Thank goodness it would be superfluous to remake them as animated films.
Oh.....wait.......(CGI) RIP Vile Rat-á "The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about." - Oscar Wilde |
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