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Terrorfrodo
GNADE Inc.
262
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Posted - 2012.12.04 14:23:00 -
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So blockade runners are now unscannable by cargo scanners. But what will this mean? Will suicide gankers ignore those ships? Or will they rather blow up every Viator they see because they think there must be incredibly valuable stuff inside?
Please go forth and do some field tests, then report back here. In the name of science :) . |
Adriel Malakai
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
105
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Posted - 2012.12.04 14:24:00 -
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Terrorfrodo wrote:So blockade runners are now unscannable by cargo scanners. But what will this mean? Will suicide gankers ignore those ships? Or will they rather blow up every Viator they see because they think there must be incredibly valuable stuff inside?
Please go forth and do some field tests, then report back here. In the name of science :)
I like to kill them because they make pretty explosions and only require one tornado. |
Spectre Wraith
Darwin Inc.
39
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Posted - 2012.12.04 14:29:00 -
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They should have a 90% of exploding when passing through Niarja or Uedema, as I have a vested interest in them burning in flames. |
Ginger Barbarella
State War Academy Caldari State
269
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Posted - 2012.12.04 14:29:00 -
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Adriel Malakai wrote:Terrorfrodo wrote:So blockade runners are now unscannable by cargo scanners. But what will this mean? Will suicide gankers ignore those ships? Or will they rather blow up every Viator they see because they think there must be incredibly valuable stuff inside?
Please go forth and do some field tests, then report back here. In the name of science :) I like to kill them because they make pretty explosions and only require one tornado.
It's cute how you guys try and try and never seem to get a lock on mine... |
Charles Case
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
252
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Posted - 2012.12.04 14:31:00 -
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They're safer now. |
Raban Inkura
Androse Trinket Haus
0
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Posted - 2012.12.04 14:33:00 -
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The orca could get away with it since it has 100k+ EHP, the blocade runners have <10k for the most part. It will cost you less than 10m to blow a AP BR worth 140mil +fitting up, to see what it has inside.
Even if the hold is empty, the cloak will pay for most of the gank cost if it drops.
go CCP! |
Wivabel
Exanimo Inc Unclaimed.
50
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Posted - 2012.12.04 14:39:00 -
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can warp cloaked ............................................................................ if you get ganked you are very unlucky or autopiloting in which case you deserve it.
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Spectre Wraith
Darwin Inc.
39
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Posted - 2012.12.04 14:42:00 -
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Charles Case wrote:They're safer now.
Agree 100%! |
Terrorfrodo
GNADE Inc.
262
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Posted - 2012.12.04 14:44:00 -
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The trend seems not to be good for the Blockade Runners. Now let's see if the game warriors live up to the threats of the forum warriors :)
Myself, I actually never transport really valuable stuff with my Viator, I use CovOps or Recons instead. Viator is for bulkier items with no great value if I have to go through low, null or w-space. But of course the gankers can't know that.
If Blockade Runners are now routinely killed on undocking, they'll become obsolete and CCP's plans will once again have backfired. . |
Sturmwolke
308
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Posted - 2012.12.04 14:49:00 -
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Sure it's safe. It's a Greyscale! -«
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Jack Mayhem
Kaer Industries
11
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Posted - 2012.12.04 14:57:00 -
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Actually Crane looks pretty good for transporting valuable BPOs.
EHP: 43.3k (51.8k overheated) Align time: 4.1s
[Crane, max tank] Damage Control II Local Hull Conversion Inertial Stabilizers I
EM Ward Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Large Shield Extender II
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I Medium Core Defense Field Extender I |
Korinne
The Partisan Brigade Republic Alliance
42
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Posted - 2012.12.04 19:45:00 -
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It's just gonna make blockade runners KOS for gankers, after all, it is a literal loot pinata now, oh the mystery of it! |
Rengerel en Distel
Amarr Science and Industry
553
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Posted - 2012.12.04 19:54:00 -
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Jack Mayhem wrote:Actually Crane looks pretty good for transporting valuable BPOs.
EHP: 43.3k (51.8k overheated) Align time: 4.1s
[Crane, max tank] Damage Control II Local Hull Conversion Inertial Stabilizers I
EM Ward Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Large Shield Extender II
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Most of those instalock alpha strikes won't come with you having those mods online.
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Some Rando
University of Caille Gallente Federation
213
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Posted - 2012.12.04 19:56:00 -
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Rengerel en Distel wrote:Most of those instalock alpha strikes won't come with you having those mods online. Not to mention all the **** he added to make insta-locking even easier. Probably doesn't make a huge difference, but why help the guys who are trying to kill you? |
Mai Khumm
Homeworld Republic Intrepid Crossing
318
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Posted - 2012.12.04 19:58:00 -
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Jack Mayhem wrote:Actually Crane looks pretty good for transporting valuable BPOs.
EHP: 43.3k (51.8k overheated) Align time: 4.1s
[Crane, max tank] Damage Control II Local Hull Conversion Inertial Stabilizers I
EM Ward Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Large Shield Extender II
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I Medium Core Defense Field Extender I [Crane, insta warp] 30k EHP, 15.5 AU/s warp speed. 0.8 secs align time. (depending on gate I'm in warp still cloaked.)
Lows: ??? ???
Mids: ??? ??? ??? ???
High: Covert Ops Cloak
Rigs: ??? ???
Implants: (Very important) ??? ??? ???
2 years with the same Crane puttering around high/low/null. Gank it to see this fit! (someone came close one day.) Since EVE will be pay to win very soon. --> 65 Mil SP subcap pilot/45 Mil SP Caldari-Indy Cap pilot looking for Powerbloc Coalition... |
Ocih
Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums
322
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Posted - 2012.12.04 20:07:00 -
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The biggest threat I have in a Prorat is concord decloaking me. |
Urgg Boolean
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
245
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Posted - 2012.12.04 20:14:00 -
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If by safer, you mean flying in Hi Sec, yes, I guess so. Since they can't be scanned, the ganker won't know if your cargo is worth the Concord response. They are no safer in lowsec where they will blow you up just becasue you were stupid enough to decloak.
They are very very safe anywhere if you simply fly using the same tactics I use in low sec: cloak between every stargate. That is the entire purpose of blackade runners. |
sabre906
Old Spice Syndicate Sailors of the Sacred Spice
422
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Posted - 2012.12.04 20:27:00 -
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They should have made DST unscannable instead, and buff their grid while at it... Standings Improvement Service https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=19454 |
KIller Wabbit
The Scope Gallente Federation
110
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Posted - 2012.12.04 20:41:00 -
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With anchored cans spammed on gate warp paths - suicide for sure
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Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
20
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Posted - 2012.12.04 20:44:00 -
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Terrorfrodo wrote:So blockade runners are now unscannable by cargo scanners. But what will this mean? Will suicide gankers ignore those ships? Or will they rather blow up every Viator they see because they think there must be incredibly valuable stuff inside?
Please go forth and do some field tests, then report back here. In the name of science :)
If the salvage is worth enough of a couple blaster catalysts then whatever you might get on drops it's only bonus. |
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Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
20
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Posted - 2012.12.04 20:46:00 -
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KIller Wabbit wrote:With anchored cans spammed on gate warp paths - suicide for sure
Anchoring cans at 12km from the gate to "easy" uncloak potential targets seems it's an offense, however DROP cans at 12km range of the gate is usual practice and in the gaming rules.
Simple: nothing changed, still gank buff. (salvage) |
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
1137
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Posted - 2012.12.04 20:52:00 -
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Jack Mayhem wrote:Actually Crane looks pretty good for transporting valuable BPOs.
EHP: 43.3k (51.8k overheated) Align time: 4.1s
[Crane, max tank] Damage Control II Local Hull Conversion Inertial Stabilizers I
EM Ward Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Large Shield Extender II
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I Medium Core Defense Field Extender I One typically doesn't tank a BR [if you are caught, you are dead], fits for agility and speed, and avoids signature expanding modules if possible (example: meta 4 istab has less bloom than t2). A MWD (active one cycle while cloaked) for getting out of bubbles is also desirable.
I also recommend a passive EM resist amplifier instead of the active field, so you don't have a resist-hole while cloaked. |
Wacktopia
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
296
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Posted - 2012.12.04 21:13:00 -
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Adriel Malakai wrote:Terrorfrodo wrote:So blockade runners are now unscannable by cargo scanners. But what will this mean? Will suicide gankers ignore those ships? Or will they rather blow up every Viator they see because they think there must be incredibly valuable stuff inside?
Please go forth and do some field tests, then report back here. In the name of science :) I like to kill them because they make pretty explosions and only require one tornado.
True but considering they can fit a covops cloak and you can get undock immunity through insta undock bookmarks if you do get ganked in one in hi sec then you're doing it wrong. The bottom line is that now I have one of those annoying signatures. |
Jada Maroo
Mysterium Astrometrics
899
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Posted - 2012.12.04 21:20:00 -
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Is this change even in yet? I didn't see it mentioned on the ship description. |
Ginger Barbarella
State War Academy Caldari State
274
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Posted - 2012.12.04 21:22:00 -
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Some Rando wrote:Rengerel en Distel wrote:Most of those instalock alpha strikes won't come with you having those mods online. Not to mention all the **** he added to make insta-locking even easier. Probably doesn't make a huge difference, but why help the guys who are trying to kill you?
This. Some folks should read the description of this stuff before fitting it. :) |
Etheoma
The Dark Space Initiative
7
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Posted - 2013.01.05 06:00:00 -
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Quote:like to kill them because they make pretty explosions and only require one tornado.
Actually if you get your skills up at all and fit for example 1 LSE and 2 SDA's you get 12.7k ehp on your lowest resist which is just more than enough to protect you from a perfect shot from a tornado. you'll be in structure but survive.
And considering I am empty half the time and the other half of the time I am only carrying 100 - 200 mill you can pop it but you will have to spend 140 mill+ to get a chance of all of that 100 - 250 mill dropping. The reason why I use the blocade runner is because you can move **** quickly even when auto piloting.
Which I only do on my way back when I am empty.
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Mire Stoude
Antelope with Night Vision Goggles
56
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Posted - 2013.01.05 06:28:00 -
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I still have large rigs on my viators. They can't be that easy to kill. |
Super spikinator
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
22
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Posted - 2013.01.05 07:03:00 -
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This just makes them like real pinatas! You wont know what goodies they'll drop until they break apart in glorious explosion. All that changes is the tears to loot ratio. "B-b-b-but I wasn't carrying anything" podkills are the best podkills. If they say "Aha! I had nothing, NOTHING!!!!!" then you can point out that obviously they are still worth a wreck, a few mods and a green point for the killboard. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6253
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Posted - 2013.01.05 07:31:00 -
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sabre906 wrote:They should have made DST unscannable instead, and buff their grid while at it...
Dead horse. CCP believes that it doesn't fit its role, a role which has been completely in the air since ever, but fits that of the blockade runner, whose role is clearly defined. A BR should never be locked in the first place. ~*a proud belligerent undesirable*~ TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. ~~~~i am god~~~~ |
Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
13409
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Posted - 2013.01.05 07:44:00 -
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The BR was already unscannable when it mattered.
Stupid change is stupid.
CCP Zulu..... Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |
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