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Mach Dredd
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.12.23 14:45:00 -
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/Sign
Should not have been removed. Alot of crap music among the good music dont force us to lissen to it else we turn it off :( that would be a waiste.
Bring it back plz. |
androch
Chillwater Ltd Persona Non Gratis
6
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Posted - 2012.12.25 01:20:00 -
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bring it back...bring it back! |
Chyster VII
The Kairos Syndicate Transmission Lost
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Posted - 2012.12.25 20:34:00 -
[243] - Quote
/signed
The blog said something about resource allocation and the time it takes to keep codecs updated, blah, blah, blah. But they have resources to develop snowball launchers, and some of the most rediculous ingame sounds imaginable.
Really? Talk about blowing smoke....
Bring it back. |
James Black
Celestial Horizon Corp.
0
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Posted - 2012.12.26 14:42:00 -
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/signed x9 times
This really sucks..... I loved the Jukebox, or the EVE player.
I've played a lot from 2004-2008, then on and off till 8 months ago. Honestly I don't use the jukebox often, because I run multiple clients on my computer, 9'ish.
BUT, like now, it's the holidays, I'm enjoying the simple life of EVE, running one or two chars, and doing some lvl 1 missions, and I found myself missing EVE music..... specifically music from the early days, as many people are posting about, what drew them into EVE. So I turn music up on my character, only to find I couldn't choose the songs I wanted to hear, and when they finally came by themselves, they get cut midway, cause i'm somewhere else now, and EVE wants to play something more fitting...... Made me a bit angry.
Anyways, reading what people say here, and discussing it with corp members. I understand some don't want CCP using time on fixing this code, and rather use the time on something more important, and others wanting them to bring it back, and fix it.
All I wanted, as it was before the Jukebox..... and I don't see this to be a hard option for CCP to fix, is to be able to choose to disable EVE from ruling what song to play for what situation, like an option, and then give me the OLD player, where I can choose the song I want to hear.
I think EVE brings great music, for someone who started from "almost" the very beginning, hearing EVE music compared to every other game out there, really set EVE into a "science/future" mood. I just miss being able to bring those memories back.
I feel I'm entitled to sign this paper 9 times :), but I leave that to the author. And yes, I do have 9 accounts.
PLEASE CCP, BRING IT BACK.......... atleast the option to control the EVE music, don't care about other music, have winamp or some other random player to play my own music. |
Treyah
Mercurialis Inc. RAZOR Alliance
0
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Posted - 2012.12.26 18:26:00 -
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Bring it back and update it - add new music --- I can't believe you took it out. The dark ambient atmosphere is part of Eve's allure. |
Dyfi
Australian Ratting and Mining Division The Cool Kids Club
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Posted - 2012.12.26 21:25:00 -
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/ Signed . All for it coming back. |
androch
Chillwater Ltd Persona Non Gratis
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Posted - 2012.12.27 16:33:00 -
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keep those sigs coming |
Stu Francansini
Repubblica Indipendente di Genova
0
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Posted - 2012.12.27 23:39:00 -
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DarkestHeart wrote:Hi guys, So a thread about the jukebox. I'd like to get a petition started, I know from speaking around that a lot of people want it back. I've played the game for something like 8 years, before the music was revamped to the style it was before the JB was taken away. Apart from being slightly biased and actually enjoying the music in EvE when in the mood, which was quite often, there are some valid points I want to make and why it should be brought back. New Music StyleI dont like this. I dont like how the music changes depending on my location, nor how many people have been killed in that system. It is clever I cannot deny, but the music I hear does not suit the mood I am in, nor does it, in my opinion sound that good. I feel that, so far, this noise falls under sound-effects more than music. I've turned it off for now, as I did in the test server clients since the JB was removed. Removal of accessI'm pro choice, in EvE. I want, and love, the ability to make my own path and do what I want in EvE. I've now had something taken away from me in this game that I enjoyed. There is no gain in this, from a user perspective, I have gained nothing that adds to the experience, only detracts. The above idea is clever and good, but I dont understand why the entire jukebox had to be taken away. It may be outdated but then that should be resolved, not taking the function out. I want to choose what music I listen to when I want to listen to it, I dont want the game to decide for me. It's lead to me disabling the sound effects of the game, which is a shame as the new sound effects are good. Limiting InnovationAlright thats a bit dramatic but its true. EvE is about an immersive experience that with the sound effects, visual effects and music can really suck you in and gets people hooked. I really think that the music is a massive feature of this. It auto plays when you first install the client. New members will hear it and associate EvE with it. It adds to the effect, now as it did when I first started to play. I, and many others, looked forward to the day when we would hear that the music was being revamped again, new tracks, newer mixes, but this...is not the kind of innovation we were hoping for. What has been taken is the easy route - why fix something when you can just remove the issue altogether? TL;DR - The new music features are good but you dont need to take away the ability to select music as we want CCP. Make it so that when the JB isnt played, the auto-select feature works. The music in EvE was good, and I want to listen to the tracks when I choose, not when the client chooses for me. I've long been an advocate that the sound effects in the game factor into the enjoyment, and that they help with gameplay. I dont like the new 'music', and the plain sound effects are annoying to the point where I just dont have sound anymore. In my eyes losing an aspect like that is a massive blow to the effort put into the game to draw you in and enjoy it. I'm not alone. If you agree, say in the comments below. I hope with enough support the JukeBox wil be brought back. --ARGUMENT-- So that people can make up their own mind, here is the main argument for keeping the Jukebox from being returned, as submitted by a player: Linky link--COUNTER ARGUMENT-- And here is the response to counter-act the argument above: Linky link--CSM RESPONSE-- CSM Two Step has responded via twitter by discarding the views of the signees of this thread. Tweet your thoughts to @two_step_eve and #csmsummit. We do however have support from CSM member Issler; whom believes the JukeBox should be return as an option as well as the dynamic music, huzzah! --NAMES OF SIGNATURES-- Prestb Belorianus Kane Expanding Man Webvan Totali Notabot DarkestHeart Cygnet Lythanea Tappad Arline Kley Keres Kedem Inquisitor Berthez Futchmacht Corine Noas Eyera greiko5 Valentine Wolf Marie Hartinez Violet Giraffe Rigs Zocur E'Rok Carnage LUfax Gaupa Nikkotor Z Bandalon Ominus kinsai kusanagi JuliusRomanus Jake McCord Firakepries Ryu Icescale BIGDOG4 Jarrot Squoth Eperor Kiran Langbaobao John Theller Arcturia Kunert poof312 Kagumichan Anuma Alish Eraza Zak Shimaya Omega Sunset Ortos Falconrae Trueson Ocip Scaramanga Kanen Alduin Leon Reinhardt labdog MEZZA Creire-Geng Stickher Bragoris Gecko Masteek Ahn Tee Mahtur Anubis074 shu tahara mani Reaver Glitterstim Wolfington Esq Valdark Malthorin Derek Kalrinian androch usum Fawn androch Me ofcourse Duncan Jones Skef Hakaari botcher0 Davon Kastire Metal Icarus Lucius Regall Adrian Borland Scaramanga Erquilenne Anabella Rella EXIA MIKOSZ RealEchnaton Shakhal McCansey giglio Issler Dainze TheSmokingHertog Mak YuTsai Jayden Demonia Hemi DarkStar Recoil IV Andrei Calidar zxsteel Tragot Gomndor Matthew97 Cat Steele Wu Jiaqiu Akavire Johnson Oramara Xandor Tarn Stu Francansini |
Titadine
Black Dwarf Enterprises
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Posted - 2012.12.28 00:25:00 -
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/Signed
Bring back da beats! |
Snape Dieboldmotor
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.12.28 01:12:00 -
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NO to the JukeBox. I would rather have more internet space ship features. |
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androch
Chillwater Ltd Persona Non Gratis
8
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Posted - 2012.12.29 07:15:00 -
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the people have spoken the community wants its jukebox back |
BIGDOG4
Demon-War-Lords Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2012.12.29 18:30:00 -
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Problem is that CCP dosen't care bout the community ! |
Ines Tegator
Towels R Us
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Posted - 2012.12.29 21:48:00 -
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Snape Dieboldmotor wrote:NO to the JukeBox. I would rather have more internet space ship features. This. How hard is it to run a browser/media player in the background? Dev time is valuable and worth the extremely minor inconvenience. |
Balder Verdandi
Czerka. The Aslyum
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Posted - 2012.12.30 09:35:00 -
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Even though I've signed to bring it back, as long as there is a way to stop playing the music left behind .... I would be happy.
It's really a PITA when I have 2 clients running, with 2 different tracks playing .... reminds me of a weak version of Klingon opera from Star Trek. I don't stab people in the back. -áWhen you do, you miss the look on their face and that's priceless.
Long live the failure known as "Unified Inventory"! |
Hakan MacTrew
Caledonian Heavy Industries Sick N' Twisted
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Posted - 2012.12.30 09:48:00 -
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Balder Verdandi wrote:Even though I've signed to bring it back, as long as there is a way to stop playing the music left behind .... I would be happy.
It's really a PITA when I have 2 clients running, with 2 different tracks playing .... reminds me of a weak version of Klingon opera from Star Trek. just turn one of the clients music volume to 0 MODULAR DRONES
MORE ORE SHIPS |
Chorvus
EPSYLON FORCE Unclaimed.
0
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Posted - 2012.12.30 14:07:00 -
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/Signed
Even though I'm signing this i'd be open to a compromise. Put the whole damn soundtrack up for download and I mean the ingame version of the EVE soundtrack, because there are some old versions of songs on soundcloud. And that's not even the main reason. Soundcloud sucks. Period. Make it downloadable so ppl can play it in their own mediaplayers please.
Anyway this would all be fixed if you just brought the thing back. Seriously hearing the code have to go is preposterous
This is honestly the first game in which I've had to turn the music off cuz it was hurting my ears. Who was the bright guy who thought those wails,cuz i can;t call them anything else, which play in nullsec, would be enjoyed by anyone in this game. I gave it a go and a in an hour I had a headache from those infernal sounds.
Just bring the damn thing back man, I'd prefer seeing the jukebox get revamped in the next patch, than that ****** Battlecruiser and Destroyer skillchange you want to implement that makes no sense. It's already hard enough for new ppl to get into EVE. I've quit 3 times before because having low sp means you can't do jack **** in this game. The only thing that brought me back was the soundtrack and the memory of what a great atmosphere it created while being in space and by removing the jukebox you just screwed it up. |
Chorvus
EPSYLON FORCE Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2012.12.30 14:12:00 -
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Ines Tegator wrote:Snape Dieboldmotor wrote:NO to the JukeBox. I would rather have more internet space ship features. This. How hard is it to run a browser/media player in the background? Dev time is valuable and worth the extremely minor inconvenience.
And where exactly can I download the whole 58 tracks of the EVE soundtrack. Because trust me man I've searched, and even though I've found it, it wasn't in the most legal of places. |
Bardos Skylifter
Solarise Flares
0
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Posted - 2012.12.31 21:15:00 -
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Chorvus wrote:
And where exactly can I download the whole 58 tracks of the EVE soundtrack. Because trust me man I've searched, and even though I've found it, it wasn't in the most legal of places.
All the tracks are in your EVE folder, even the deadspace/combat tracks that weren't listed in the jukebox. |
Kuro Oyashiro
Cypher Industries. Invictus Void
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Posted - 2013.01.01 00:32:00 -
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After several months of break from Eve, I've finally returned for more gameplay only this time without the Jukebox... It was one of the important aspect of playing in the lonesome space where you can play both music, whether it was the Eve's soundtrack or some other, and explore the massive space. It was easy to use, and requires less effort since you have different playlists ready if set up correctly. Sure, you can bring up other softwares like Winamp or Media Player, but that destroys the fun in using something that was a part of the Eve client. I would rather have the Jukebox than some Media Player in the background when I'm playing Eve Online in Fullscreen! |
androch
Chillwater Ltd Persona Non Gratis
8
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Posted - 2013.01.02 07:23:00 -
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the jukebox should never have been removed in the first place.. it wasnt causing anyone problems |
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DarkestHeart
The Pack Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2013.01.02 12:55:00 -
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Merry XMAS and a happy new year to all of you :)
I have updated the names on the first post.
Number of sigs is now at 106! When I get home I will restructure and update the first post to include some very good and vital arugments put forward by other signee's.
Keep up the good work people! |
Alexander Renoir
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.01.03 11:00:00 -
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CCP RealX wrote: We believe we made the right decision but that is for EVE's community to decide. If we however made the wrong decision and you decide that we will put the jukebox back into the game, it will happen at the cost of adding new game-play related features.
Yeah please do! Bring back established things before you work on new content! BTW bring a checkbox to be able to mute ALL new beep, bang and crap sounds you have introduced with retribution. Let me say to all involved devs in this sound team.. You have wasted a lot of time with this crap! Really this was so unimportant and unnecessary!
"GONG.. Skilltraining Completed" Who needs that fugging gong?
Bring back the jukebox! Expulse all new sounds!
And learn to ask BEFORE you change things! |
Aakkonen
ANZUS Treaty
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Posted - 2013.01.03 11:45:00 -
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Signed!
you have my support to bring jukebox back! Bad Jokes since -09.... Fly Safe! o7 |
Arduemont
Rotten Legion Ops THE ROYAL NAVY
1086
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Posted - 2013.01.03 12:41:00 -
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Posting in a thread filled with people who don't know how to use Windows Media Player.
Seriously HTFU. I don't want the devs spending any time on a waste of space Jukebox, when all you guys have to do is use your damn brains and download one yourselves. FFS, you don't even need a media player. Just open up an explorer and set up a Youtube playlist and have that run in the background. CCP don't need to hold your damn hands with everything.
The jukebox is and was a waste of time, space and development.
HTFU. "In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." |
Snape Dieboldmotor
In Exile.
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Posted - 2013.01.03 13:49:00 -
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Arduemont wrote:Seriously . I don't want the devs spending any time on a waste of space Jukebox, when all you guys have to do is use your damn brains and download one yourselves. FFS, you don't even need a media player. Just open up an explorer and set up a Youtube playlist and have that run in the background. CCP don't need to hold your damn hands with everything.
Amen bro. Say yes to more spaceships and no to the juke box. |
DarkestHeart
The Pack Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2013.01.03 15:05:00 -
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Arduemont wrote:Posting in a thread filled with people who don't know how to use Windows Media Player.
Seriously HTFU. I don't want the devs spending any time on a waste of space Jukebox, when all you guys have to do is use your damn brains and download one yourselves. FFS, you don't even need a media player. Just open up an explorer and set up a Youtube playlist and have that run in the background. CCP don't need to hold your damn hands with everything.
The jukebox is and was a waste of time, space and development.
HTFU.
Hai thar.
I think you missed the point. Can I suggest you re-read my first post, subsequent hyperlinked post as a counter argument and then read through the other 13 pages on this thread so you can read why the people signing want it back?
I think you'll find that whilst you may not be persuaded, you may start to understand why we do.
And if you dont understand, thats fine, although I would like to say unless your able to formulate a good counter-argument that you keep it to yourself.
Assuming you probably wont read the first post or any other post in this thread about why we want it back, and because I'm a nice guy, here's a TL;DR for you.
1) Breaks immersion 2) Uses up resources 3) Takes away player choice 4) Poorly implemented new music system 5) People liked the feature, and viewed it as a good feature 6) Cuz EvE music is kewl and we want it back (properly)
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Glista Niessis
Hysteria Infiniti Darkness
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Posted - 2013.01.04 20:54:00 -
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I want the JB back! |
Arduemont
Rotten Legion Ops THE ROYAL NAVY
1087
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Posted - 2013.01.04 22:29:00 -
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DarkestHeart wrote:Arduemont wrote:Posting in a thread filled with people who don't know how to use Windows Media Player.
Seriously HTFU. I don't want the devs spending any time on a waste of space Jukebox, when all you guys have to do is use your damn brains and download one yourselves. FFS, you don't even need a media player. Just open up an explorer and set up a Youtube playlist and have that run in the background. CCP don't need to hold your damn hands with everything.
The jukebox is and was a waste of time, space and development.
HTFU. Hai thar. I think you missed the point. Can I suggest you re-read my first post, subsequent hyperlinked post as a counter argument and then read through the other 13 pages on this thread so you can read why the people signing want it back? I think you'll find that whilst you may not be persuaded, you may start to understand why we do. And if you dont understand, thats fine, although I would like to say unless your able to formulate a good counter-argument that you keep it to yourself. Assuming you probably wont read the first post or any other post in this thread about why we want it back, and because I'm a nice guy, here's a TL;DR for you. 1) Breaks immersion 2) Uses up resources 3) Takes away player choice 4) Poorly implemented new music system 5) People liked the feature, and viewed it as a good feature 6) Cuz EvE music is kewl and we want it back (properly)
Hai thar,
I read your post, and I have read the vast majority of the thread. I haven't missed any points. The basis of your argument is you want it back and that's fine, except to get it back it will require development time that could otherwise be spent on something else.
It's fine for you to want to create a petition. Frankly it your right. But it's a two way street. If I don't want the devs wasting time on your little petition I am perfectly within my right to say so. The fact of the matter is that the devs have gone out and publicly stated that they thought the jukebox was a waste of development time, and I'm inclined to trust them over any argument you think you can bring up.
Also, as others have pointed out, the Devs have in-depth data showing how often people used the Jutebox. If people don't use it, then they shouldn't be bringing it back when there are more important things for them to do. No petition is going to as accurate as the data they can collect themselves.
Even if you get 1000 names on your list, if those 1000 people are the only people using the damn Jukebox, then they need to move on. Because the other 440,000 subscribers shouldn't have to suffer less content just because you lot want a feature back, that your quite capable of doing yourselves with very little effort. "In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." |
Yelena Fedorova
26
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Posted - 2013.01.05 03:32:00 -
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NO
because it was a dead branch that ccp got rid of FOR A REASON! i do not want to see precious dev time wasted on re-implementing and maintaining a system that most certainly not be used by most players...... |
RustyAftaBurner
Decisive Persuits The Methodical Alliance
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Posted - 2013.01.05 07:59:00 -
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signed .. bring back the jukebox !!! |
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