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N1gella Laws0n
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.10.05 20:47:00 -
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CCP Hellmar's Blog wrote:In short, my zeal for pushing EVE to her true potential
It's good to see that, now, after everything so far, you still have not got the first clue what the problem is. |
Aeril Malkyre
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.10.05 20:48:00 -
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Was assuming we'd never see this. Glad to be wrong. Takes a big man with a heavy heart to admit such things. Welcome back to the game. Now let's get cracking on those improvements.
Onward and upward from here, until the stars grow cold.
And oh look, my subscription runs out tomorrow.
And SUDDENLY... 3 months added. |
Riffix
Synergistic Arbitrage
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Posted - 2011.10.05 20:48:00 -
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I wasn't really hating before like a lot of people but this is still good to hear. |
Anvil44
Independent Traders and Builders MPA
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Posted - 2011.10.05 20:49:00 -
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Very straight and to the point. Sounded very sincere too. Having read this instead of looking at a face and listening to a voice, this is about as good an apology as any I've ever read.
As I've told my children many times, saying sorry only actually means anything if you are truly sorry the error occurred and will do your best to never repeat it. Being good for a little while then going back to the way you were before is just a sneaky bit of lying.
Everyone makes mistakes in the life, whether it is personal or professional. How we make up for our mistakes, how we try to make things better, shows our character better than anything. I think you realize that you will be under a microscope for quite some time.
With luck, you will make the effort needed to not only enact changes that have positive results for the majority of the Eve community, but also to continue with the communication on where you are hoping to go and why. As long as you keep an open mind to other possibilities than your originally planned course, you should be just fine.
Eve is a sandbox. To some extent, your developing, planning and improving Eve should also have a sandbox format. Be ready to change your plans based on what users would like and things will go well.
Good luck. I too will be watching and hoping. |
Sir Grimaldi
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.10.05 20:51:00 -
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This must have been hard to write ....
It is allways hard to look back and see what ind of an as* you were. But on the upside, you can only go up from there.
I look at this letter as a very good new start to restore faith that us vet players lost.
Doubt I will renew other 3 accounts with "new WOW like game in space coming out", but stranger things have happened.
GL CCP and Hillmar, you will need it. |
Denidil
The Graduates Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2011.10.05 20:53:00 -
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i haven't got through the entire thing yet but i have to give Hellmar props for admitting he was wrong - that is a hard thin to do so publicly and clearly. especially after such a bitter fight broke out between CCP and the fans. Anyone who is blue to DRF are cowards and have failed Eve.
MM Bombers, Best Bombers |
Kandreath
De Re Metallica Epsilon Shimmy Alliance
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Posted - 2011.10.05 20:55:00 -
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Adding my voice to the positive feedback.
I see hope on the horizon. |
Bourkes
Bourkes Corp
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Posted - 2011.10.05 20:57:00 -
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All companies fail every now and then on service and strategy, the way how one goes about resolving it is how people will ultimately trust or crucify you.
Great first steps - onwards and upwards! |
Yseri
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.10.05 20:59:00 -
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My cynical nature tells me "wow, the investors must have really whipped his ass". Maybe something good will come out of this, but I suspect I won't benefit much since I only play pve. On the other hand, more people going to 0.0 to do pvp might mean less griefing kids in highsec, which can only be good. We'll see. |
Luckytania
Bullets of Justice
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Posted - 2011.10.05 21:00:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Ivana Twinkle wrote:We'll see, it's still just :words: on a screen. Yes they are, but they're good words, and they're words from the top. It's only the first step, but at least the step is in the right direction. Yes, necessary words and a decent step in the right direction.
That post recognizes, IMO, that something even more important than game mechanics got broken this Summer.
Trust was broken.
That will probably be harder to fix than 1000 bugs. |
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Aversun
Systems Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.05 21:01:00 -
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overall, good and insightful. One, however, fails to see the attachment to ship spin, when you can do that in the great glory of space |
Sinjin Hawk
EVE University Ivy League
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Posted - 2011.10.05 21:02:00 -
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Thanks for the letter. It is a great first step. Growth is necessary but tough to work through. Knowing that you need to grow personally is as important as stepping back out on the path and pushing on. Looking forward to the work of the team and where you are taking us. |
Freelancer117
Obsidian Tigers
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Posted - 2011.10.05 21:03:00 -
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Apology accepted,
With out you eve couldn't have been a reality we now so much care about (have the Art of Eve book). I understand a lot of your code went into it and as such you think of eve as your baby. But as all babies they do grow up and need to participate in their environment.
That environment is the player community, eve is way past its mining simulator days. And as we know internet spaceships is now serious business I still hope Eve Online will be your core business and you will give people the content they want and pay for.
So far eve development blogs / video posts give me the idea that your design or engineering teams make up new stuff up, that sometimes get garbage canned because its not compatible with your current scrum deadline ? Wouldn't it be great to save the work done and discuss it with the CSM for future implementation, waste not want not.
For the NEX store im still looking forward to seeing the Scorpion Ishukone Watch and more skin decals for other ships, I really miss the black navy issue megathron. Plus, how much for a lifetime subscription for this game, already got one for star trek online so its not strange in mmo's.
Good Luck with the next expansions and really hope to see more of CCP one day in Iceland. |
Dex Ironmind
Vorpal's Edge
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Posted - 2011.10.05 21:06:00 -
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My optimism for the potential future of EVE was restored a bit with that blog CCP.
I am looking forward to seeing what you guys do with this renewed direction and focus on EVE!
GF
Dex was here. |
Ugleb
Sarz'na Khumatari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2011.10.05 21:08:00 -
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It is a good statement, and defintely the sort of thing the community has been waiting for.
There is a question I have though that it doesn't really answer. To my mind the largest failing of Incarna has been the failure to deliver establishments, the multi-player environments. What I would like to hear from CCP is why this has not happened, and does not feature in the announced winter expansion either.
Is it due to technical issues (overheating GPU's, server performance) or simply that the environments have not been built yet? I was in the audience at Fanfest 2006 when 'walking in stations' was announced, and been to 3 more fanfests since and watched various presentations on the development process. I find it surprising that the CQ's are still being built at this stage and makes me wonder what state the rest of the project is in. Many players are wondering about this and don't understand the apparent slow pace of it all.
Edit - for that matter, players also want to know what happened to the other stuff they thought would be out by now, such as the new background nebulas that were shown at fanfest or the revamped EVElopedia which from the recent blog sounded like it would be launched with the new forums. http://uglebsjournal.wordpress.com/ |
Luckytania
Bullets of Justice
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Posted - 2011.10.05 21:10:00 -
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Raid'En wrote:... prove that you're not lying ... Yes, this is crucial.
We have previously seen different statements made to different audiences.
We are paying attention.
Now, with that said, I genuinely hope this is a sincere sea-change and do wish CCP (and my game) the best of luck. |
PP Sledge
Ixion Defence Systems Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2011.10.05 21:11:00 -
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" The investment of money in EVE should not give you an unfair advantage over the investment of time."
I think that boat has left the dock don't you? I won't bother to comment on the supercap blobs paid for by tech moons and botting. On a small gang pvp level, it seems every other ship that comes through our space is a cloaky tech 3. Tech 3's used to be something to get excited about. Now, everyone and several of their alts have one. Easy Isk is ruining the game. Inflate the currency massively or stop the easy money that some alliances can generate via moon goo. People should be excited when they can finally afford that tech 2 or tech 3 instead of considering these ships throw away. |
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Industrial Complex Cosmic Consortium
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Posted - 2011.10.05 21:12:00 -
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"Do what we say, and say what we do" GÇö this is the most important line to me (ignoring the desire to move to a F2P model due to monthly subscriptions being "a thing of the past"). As much as CCP wants to forge an awesome future, CCP will only be able to do so with a cooperative customer base.
I'm one of the players who was very excited about the Future Vision video at FanFest 2011. To me, EVE isn't only about spaceships in space. It's a game about economy, politics, piracy, capitalism, trust and betrayal GÇö which currently happens to occur in a universe where the only activity we have is flying spaceships. I'm looking forward to an immersive, cohesive world where every action we take has an impact GÇö from the simple act of docking and walking in to a bar, through to firing shots in a battle which determines who claims sovereignty over a system today.
I want Incarna to succeed, though I was disappointed by the initial release. I want all aspects of the virtual world we inhabit to be of at least passing interest to most players.
Thank you for taking the time to reopen dialogue with the players. I look forward to the deeper developer/player relationship that the practice of thinking and talking about what you are planning to do will foster.
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Hengroen
Dark Space Frontier True Reign
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Posted - 2011.10.05 21:12:00 -
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' I fervently believe with all my heart that weGÇÖve not even scratched the surface of EVEGÇÖs potential'
Amen to that. Cannot wait to see the surface scratched.
Thank you Hellmar |
Cearain
The IMPERIUM of LaZy NATION
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Posted - 2011.10.05 21:14:00 -
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Lots of words about incarna and Nex. When and to what extent is ccp going to dedicate resources to fis? Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2011.10.05 21:20:00 -
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We shall see. CCP Zulu.....Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |
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CCP Spitfire
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2011.10.05 21:21:00 -
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Cearain wrote:Lots of words about incarna and Nex. When and to what extent is ccp going to dedicate resources to fis?
Please have a look at this dev blog by CCP Zulu which tells about our plans for the winter expansion.
CCP Spitfire | Russian Community Coordinator @ccp_spitfire |
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Chssmius
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.10.05 21:22:00 -
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Thank you Hellmar. I empathize emotional hurdle it must have taken to write all of that.
I just hope this move is followed all of the way through.
That said, I can not wait to see what the future holds for EvE with you and CCP. |
Laand
Fleetworks ROMANIAN-LEGION
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Posted - 2011.10.05 21:22:00 -
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Andreus Ixiris wrote:Dear Hilmar,
Having a lot of experience with humbling situations in my life, I've got to say before I say anything else that I respect the courage, honour and humility it must have taken for you to write this apology. To err is commonplace, but to apologise for it is a sadly rare sign of human virtue in this day and age. It is redundant to say that my faith in CCP is no longer unshakeable, but your apology is something I wouldn't expect from the CEO of bigger games companies like Activision, EA, Sony Online or Blizzard. Admitting fault and apologising for it is a good thing.
I know you're a CEO, and you're talking to customers in the manner of a CEO, but you're actually talking to us - again, not something I'd expect from more mainstream games companies. You have not fully restored my faith in CCP - as you have said, I'll be watching your actions more than your words. With the utmost respect, CCP has a history of apologising for things, fixing minor issues and calling it a day. For this to be a true turning point, CCP must truly change within and without - if you truly wish to convince us that CCP can deliver on the promise of EVE Online, you must commit to it one hundred and ten percent.
We need to see the radical changes we've been promised - regular iteration on older content, player issues addressed in weeks rather than months, constant interaction and dialogue with the playerbase. Reform and revitalise. Listen to player input at every turn. Test every feature you want to roll out on Singularity weeks in advance and listen to the testers.
Every time I try to leave this game, it pulls me back in somehow. I have never given up on the dream of EVE Online. I have never given up on the endless promise of tomorrow and the grand adventure of the far reaches of space.
I'm going to give you my cautious trust, CCP, one last time. Take me places I've never seen before and show me a world where impossible is a dirty word.
- Andrew +1
--- I'll see what the winter expansion actually brings. How many optional patches it will need to fix the new itroduced bugs etc. . I hope CCP really changes and this aren't just words. My alt will stay unsubbed, but I may buy one more month game time for my main to check out the upcomming expansion. We'll see.
o7 Laand
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astral dominix
BrightStar Technologies
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Posted - 2011.10.05 21:24:00 -
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Very pleased with the news. have writen a bit on it on my blog http://eve-trial-by-fire.blogspot.com/2011/10/i-impressed.html |
Rexxin
Evention Laboratories
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Posted - 2011.10.05 21:24:00 -
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+1 |
Ke'char
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.10.05 21:25:00 -
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Nice read. Hope has returned. |
Luckytania
Bullets of Justice
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Posted - 2011.10.05 21:27:00 -
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Acks wrote:... Oh and for the love of all that is holy PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE dedicate more resources to "the little things". There are so many daily paper cut issues / bugs in eve that at the end of a day of playing many of us are hemorrhaging. Most of these issues have been around for YEARS.
Sincerely, ACKS RONA Corporation RONA Directorate I can't agree with and emphasize this enough.
For example, every time I click a window to close I expect it to close. Not 9 out of 10 times. Every time.
Sound like a trivial gripe? OK. But every time it fails it is another aggravating break in game flow. And this is just one example. Fix the little bugs. They add up. An infestation of little bugs kills game enjoyment. |
Chronix Beebelbrox
0
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Posted - 2011.10.05 21:27:00 -
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Bravo.
Well said.
Now, show me. |
Monty Raynolds
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.05 21:29:00 -
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Other CEOs have been fired for less than has been admitted in this blog.
Still not resubbing once paid time runs out. |
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