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Nth Ares
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.06 05:22:00 -
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Apology accepted and appreciated. Now please get to work and back it up with actions.
I feel more hopeful about the future of EVE, but you're in some tough competition for my subscription dollars this coming year. |
InnerAsvard
European BrotherHood
0
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Posted - 2011.10.06 05:25:00 -
[452] - Quote
I really really REALLY appreciate that CCP Hellmar...
I love EvE, it's an MMO that i never grow bored of, i mean its a true sandbox where we make our own story, own destiny...
I like the rest have been worried about the games future lately, all focus seems to be on griefers and everyone else is left in the dust and as you mentioned there are a few areas that need polishing and/or tweaking.
In a nutshell reading your post when i woke up this morning has encouraged me to continue investing time and money into EvE and i just hope that your words come to light in the near future.
Let us pray that our playerbase is not hurt too badly by Decembers release of SWTOR
Thanks again boss o7 |
Artamis Kane
Logistic Nightmare
0
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Posted - 2011.10.06 05:33:00 -
[453] - Quote
These words go a long way to restoring faith in the future of EVE. Actions will, of course, go the distance to keep it.
That being said, please, please listen to what the community is saying on the forums. I believe that to maintain a loyal player-base CCP will have to address many pre-existing issues with game-play before investing more time and energy into new 'shiny' elements that are clearly more geared to snagging new players.
Incarna, Dust and other CCP initiatives within EVE are fun and interesting, but simple things like clunky interfaces, boring and repetitions missions, broken Faction Warfare, broken COSMOS and the cluster**** that is modern-day lo-sec really need some serious looking after.
I am afraid that so much time will be invested into integrating DUST with EVE that EVE will suffer as a game. Some serious yet mundane fixes should be looked at and looked at hard.
EVE is a terrific game, but some parts of it are clearly stuck in 2005 and no matter how much DUST and Incarna might polish up parts of it and make it seem 'new' again, those parts will, in the end, drag the whole thing down. |
Dark Sabre
Invictus Australis Northern Coalition.
0
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Posted - 2011.10.06 05:35:00 -
[454] - Quote
10-10 Hellmar,
Thankyou for your transperancy and humble appology. I applaud your courage and look forward to more great things from you and CCP.
Happy EvE player. |
ArchenTheGreat
Pulsar Nebulah Army of Lovers.
2
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Posted - 2011.10.06 05:37:00 -
[455] - Quote
Wow, I am impressed. Thank you and good luck. |
Remnantek
Quadranomicon Remnant
0
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Posted - 2011.10.06 05:38:00 -
[456] - Quote
A sign of true leadership is taking the blame while you praise the work of those that work beside you.
Your words have not fallen on def ears, and i look forward to the visions of CCP.
I hope this MMO becomes the Alpha and Omega of MMO's.
PLEASE have fun building EvE, your joys in creation flow over into our playing.
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Ztrain
Viziam Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2011.10.06 05:39:00 -
[457] - Quote
This is evidence that you still have no idea what your doing lets break these down.
Hybrid weapons balancing (okay fine done know don't really care. Fix it.)
Factional warfare (Ummm did people ever do this? Seriously? Rly? Gonna waste more time on it?)
Assault ships (Okay.............)
Capital ship balancing (Ahh this is where you nurf super caps online because everyone has them so they need to be nurfed. Removing their value vs investment and removing the desire to achieve your end game.)
New T2 modules (See T2 section below)
Starbase logistics management (This is code for? Is this the ramp up and make your Jump Freighters juicier targets by having to lock on to their cyno's trick? Yes that's right make it even easier to loss the stuff people have worked towards. That sounds like a winner to the gaming masses coming from other games.)
New EWAR-Drones (STOP WITH NEW STUFF. The new stuff you've introduced over the past few years is what has made the game get worse and worse with every expansion since 07. But yep keep working on new stuff nobody needs. Same old CCP)
T2 Rigs manufacturing (And this is broken now how? It wasn't a year ago when I last stopped playing. Haven't looked at it in the two weeks been back. How have you screwed it up in the last year? Or is this another not broke but we need to tinker with it to break it?)
Ship spinning (So your programmers are unable to put something back in that they had for 8 or so years working fine? You need to wait months to put this back in? Did they loose the original or did they copy and past over it? Or does the developer that wrote the spinning ships environment no longer work there so you all have to go back to school to learn how to rotate a 3D object?)
New font (When there's so much game play and objectives broken and allocating more resources to fix these problems and you working on changing fonts? Rly? Like Rly?)
More captains quarters (You still don't have spinning ships back. You openly admit that your CQ was a problem and your dedicating resources to put more in?)
Time dilation (Okay we've all experienced fleet fights this has already been in the game for at least 6 years just through server performance you are not actually spending time on writing code to do this? Okay yeah that was a little sarcastic, Not much just a little. But that would have been nice 5-6 years ago.)
Anyways here's a list of problems that you need to be fixing
Capital ships (Address the issues that the community has brought up with capital ships and power blocks. I just came back after a year out of game so am not personally up to speed on all the particulars but this needs to be on your desk every day period. While at the same time that fix needs to not make them nurfed to the point as to negate the desire to fly or build them at all. For many flying a super is an end game ambition. If investment vs potential fun and risk of loss is not there you've effectively destroyed your end game. Why play to play a game if you don't have a goal to work towards. Ask yourself why play the game.)
Nullsec (Failure: Constellation sov. Failure: current sov system. It was kind of okay when came back last year. 0.0 was a chore trying to defend all these stations that nobody really wants other then to have just so someone else your not friends with can't have them. The proliferation of stations spawned from the incompetent design teams constellation sov idea and really screwed up 0.0 geography. Not to mention that at least you could get a small piece of 0.0 some place and build it up. Now you have the extra maintenance of maintaining all these station systems and don't even get the benefits from it. Again more work with no or little reward. 2nd hand information so may be wrong but heard the Mittani stated we have the caps to just go any take whatever we want from whomever we want. But nobody has anything worth taking. That's a major problem in a game if your main desirable space being Nullsec and people just plain don't want it.)
Production (T2 BPOs. Again last time I looked to buy a T2 BPO off someone you'd basically be giving up all the profits if you were to produce that item 24/7 for the next not kidding 5 years.................. Rly? So if you are a new player entering the game your are in effect locked out of a major part of production. Invention is a joke. Plain and simple. No really. Start up some method of making new T2 BPOs and make their distribution permanent or remove them and make everything invention. Those that have the money to just out right by the new ones will to try to hold the market. A steady stream of them need to be constantly being introduced. If a new player who is interested starts playing the game and realizes they have no chance to getting in to that area of production. It is another goal that just can not be achieved.)
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Ztrain
Viziam Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2011.10.06 05:43:00 -
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Back in the day when you would start playing the game you had goals:
I'd like to get out to 0.0 I'd like to help build a station. I'd like to get a T2 BPO or two for production. I'd like to fly a super cap!!!
Now we have: I'd like to get out to 0.0 (easy to do just join a corp in an alliance with access but why bother? Lots of work for meh reward.) I'd like to help build a station. (More then enough of those around already.) I'd like to get a T2 BPO or two for production. (Can't be done. You can buy one for 5 years worth of it's payout.......why..........) I'd like to fly a super cap!!! (Sounds cool but I could spend a year investing and building up for one just to have it nurfed even more then they have from their original design. Not saying it wasn't needed. However with every nurf diminishes their value vs investment.)
CCP needs to start making fun goals for people to work towards. Not waste time with adding new fonts, ECM drones, new T2 modules. You talk about how non in game related things were a mistake such and micro transaction and such and still fail to address in game play issues except for "fixing Nullsec" You still seem to have no idea as to what it take to design a game. Game design is all about the goals and game play. Not about the fluff.
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BlinSky
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2011.10.06 05:52:00 -
[459] - Quote
BlinSky wrote:Ok So Basically you know and admit that me (in my emo raging posts) and some other loyal to eve followers are right and you are wrong... great... that should keep some of us paying for another 2 or 3 months of game time in the hope for some "player loven changes" to take place....
Super cool now that you know you screwed up and since you care so much about the players... (yeah right sucking every lil bit of money from them not so important) do the following:
- get back in the 90 day GTC's, - seed eve with another 5k or so null sec systems, - setup a real bounty hunter's office/profession (maybe npc corp for every faction) - add motherships - add a cap or sub cap that will help small corps (20 dudes or so) to live in null sec on their own roaming the 0.0's as nomads, - reseed the moons, - add more ships and weapon types, - CHECK THE GM's FOR ABUSE.. I PERSONALLY KNOW 3 CASES IN WHICH THE GM's ACTED LIKE WHORES AND WITH ALL THE PETITIONING NOTHING HAPPEN LEADING TO A m8 OF MINE TO QUIT EVE. (Or formup a team that will be in charge of keeping the gm's in line) - STOP ADDING SO MUCH **** IN EVE WITHOUT KEEPING PASSE WITH THE BUGS THAT COME WITH IT. (there so many bugs with the latest patches thats not even funny). Leme show you 3 of them: 1) after undocking even know the 1 min session timer is over sometimes i get more session change notifications when trying to jump a gate. longest one was 2min something.. This bug is old news now and yet nothing seems to be done about it. 2) windows... windows.... they jump arround the screen when clicking something, the stacking doesent work properly... they stack w/e they want to and when... again nothing been done about it... 3) speed indicator... still gets stuck yes.... been fixed so many times people stop bothering to report....
Those are just 3 bugs that you can see in like 5 min of playing eve... there's many more and more been added with every patch but you simply don't take 5min break from filling eve with **** to simply FIX SOME BUGS.
So yeah overall I think that the blog from "eve guy in charge" is nothing but a "please stay with us for another 6 months and you will see it's gonna get better I beg you" blog. For real I think CCP tasted money and for that reason eve will never be the way it once was.. fun.
Just to prove what I just said think of this: People been crying for ship paint jobs and corp logos for years... what did CCP said when those will be introduced??? They gonna be under the vanity products. That basically means if you wanna have some fun flying a black ship with a pirate skull on it, pay CCP a plex or 2 or w/e... more monety to CCP... whats todays plex price??? 400mill you say???....
That's what CCP is doing and they know it. This blog is just smoke in the eyeballs another attempt to make old guys think of eve the way it once was... remember I WAS THERE?? ... same deal only now they stick it from behind....
Just wanted to add this:
IF YOU LOVE THE EVE COMMUNITY SO MUCH YOU'D MAKE DUST514 FOR PC ALSO, NT JUST FOR CONSOLES...
THAT POST IS A HUGE BULLSHIT AND IT WORKS, JUST READ THE ******* REPLIES FROM THE PEOPLE: "I'l stick arround for a while"... "now lets get to work"...
We have a saying here when it comes to voting on election day that sounds something like this: "YES THEY'R STUPID, BUT LOOK HOW MANY THEY ARE" That's exactly the people that the blog is aiming for.
Until they get actually back the 90day GTC's the way once was (so people don't worry about plex day and focus on actually having fun) or they say Yes We will launch dust 514 on pc at the same time as game consoles... I won't believe **** of what any CCP guys are saying may that be the ceo or the guy that's washing the toilets in that building.
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
434
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Posted - 2011.10.06 05:52:00 -
[460] - Quote
Ztrain wrote:This is evidence that you still have no idea what your doing lets break these down.
Hybrid weapons balancing (okay fine done know don't really care. Fix it.)
Factional warfare (Ummm did people ever do this? Seriously? Rly? Gonna waste more time on it?)
Assault ships (Okay.............)
Capital ship balancing (Ahh this is where you nurf super caps online because everyone has them so they need to be nurfed. Removing their value vs investment and removing the desire to achieve your end game.)
New T2 modules (See T2 section below)
Starbase logistics management (This is code for? Is this the ramp up and make your Jump Freighters juicier targets by having to lock on to their cyno's trick? Yes that's right make it even easier to loss the stuff people have worked towards. That sounds like a winner to the gaming masses coming from other games.)
New EWAR-Drones (STOP WITH NEW STUFF. The new stuff you've introduced over the past few years is what has made the game get worse and worse with every expansion since 07. But yep keep working on new stuff nobody needs. Same old CCP)
T2 Rigs manufacturing (And this is broken now how? It wasn't a year ago when I last stopped playing. Haven't looked at it in the two weeks been back. How have you screwed it up in the last year? Or is this another not broke but we need to tinker with it to break it?)
Ship spinning (So your programmers are unable to put something back in that they had for 8 or so years working fine? You need to wait months to put this back in? Did they loose the original or did they copy and past over it? Or does the developer that wrote the spinning ships environment no longer work there so you all have to go back to school to learn how to rotate a 3D object?)
New font (When there's so much game play and objectives broken and allocating more resources to fix these problems and you working on changing fonts? Rly? Like Rly?)
More captains quarters (You still don't have spinning ships back. You openly admit that your CQ was a problem and your dedicating resources to put more in?)
Time dilation (Okay we've all experienced fleet fights this has already been in the game for at least 6 years just through server performance you are not actually spending time on writing code to do this? Okay yeah that was a little sarcastic, Not much just a little. But that would have been nice 5-6 years ago.)
Anyways here's a list of problems that you need to be fixing
Capital ships (Address the issues that the community has brought up with capital ships and power blocks. I just came back after a year out of game so am not personally up to speed on all the particulars but this needs to be on your desk every day period. While at the same time that fix needs to not make them nurfed to the point as to negate the desire to fly or build them at all. For many flying a super is an end game ambition. If investment vs potential fun and risk of loss is not there you've effectively destroyed your end game. Why play to play a game if you don't have a goal to work towards. Ask yourself why play the game.)
Nullsec (Failure: Constellation sov. Failure: current sov system. It was kind of okay when came back last year. 0.0 was a chore trying to defend all these stations that nobody really wants other then to have just so someone else your not friends with can't have them. The proliferation of stations spawned from the incompetent design teams constellation sov idea and really screwed up 0.0 geography. Not to mention that at least you could get a small piece of 0.0 some place and build it up. Now you have the extra maintenance of maintaining all these station systems and don't even get the benefits from it. Again more work with no or little reward. 2nd hand information so may be wrong but heard the Mittani stated we have the caps to just go any take whatever we want from whomever we want. But nobody has anything worth taking. That's a major problem in a game if your main desirable space being Nullsec and people just plain don't want it.)
Production (T2 BPOs. Again last time I looked to buy a T2 BPO off someone you'd basically be giving up all the profits if you were to produce that item 24/7 for the next not kidding 5 years.................. Rly? So if you are a new player entering the game your are in effect locked out of a major part of production. Invention is a joke. Plain and simple. No really. Start up some method of making new T2 BPOs and make their distribution permanent or remove them and make everything invention. Those that have the money to just out right by the new ones will to try to hold the market. A steady stream of them need to be constantly being introduced. If a new player who is interested starts playing the game and realizes they have no chance to getting in to that area of production. It is another goal that just can not be achieved.)
Impressive. You've demonstrated your ignorance of literally every single major issue. To be as thoroughly, meticulously and consistently wrong as your post was must have taken considerable hard work and dedication. Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |
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Aramis Defranzac
Rudel Taktik Exodus.
0
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Posted - 2011.10.06 05:54:00 -
[461] - Quote
Great step for the future of the eve community, and I appreciate you making a personal post on the state of eve along with its short falls.
Personally I haven't seen anything worth while since WHs were added to the game, new ships great, mods great, PVP is the name of this game, let's see what comes next...my fingers are crossed.
Good luck CCP
P.S. Don't forget our industrial boys sitting in our home systems manufacturing ships for us to Pew Pew in, they are just as important :) |
Vladimir Ilych
Gradient Electus Matari
0
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Posted - 2011.10.06 06:04:00 -
[462] - Quote
Much appreciated. |
Kiran
Knights of Azrael
0
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Posted - 2011.10.06 06:10:00 -
[463] - Quote
Thank you for the appology CCP Hellmar.
I really love Eve Online its unique in many ways, and would love to see that future vision within the game that you linked in your letter. But things like that take time and there is no sense in rushing.
There is no other MMO that I know of that allows you to change the shape of the world maps by owning location (systems) , PvP and death in Eve actually mean something unlike other MMO's where you respawn and feel nothing other than a 5 minuet walk back to where you was. Because of this I am more conected to my characters in Eve than any other MMO I have played.
There is only one MMO that gives me the shakes in pvp and that Eve Online, no other rush like it. |
Kossaw
H A V O C Cascade Imminent
2
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Posted - 2011.10.06 06:22:00 -
[464] - Quote
Very few companies can manage to recover from the state that CCP was in until today - usually because the company leadership is incapable of seeing the need for change.
Thankyou Hillmar for seeing the need and beginning the changes required. |
Ben Derindar
Dirty Deeds Corp.
0
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Posted - 2011.10.06 06:23:00 -
[465] - Quote
$current_confidence_in_ccp = -9000;
$good_expansion = 1000; $good_patch = 100; $good_blog = 10;
$current_confidence_in_ccp += $good_blog;
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Cors
It's A Trap It's A Trap Alliance
0
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Posted - 2011.10.06 06:25:00 -
[466] - Quote
Quote: "From a strategic perspective, we had to take these first steps because monthly subscriptions are increasingly becoming a thing of the past."
WHY THE HELL does every executive in every game company think this.
NOWHERE do PLAYERS say they want microtransactions.
WHERE do PEOPLE who already pay for your game TELL YOU they WANT THIS.
MY GOD. The greed that is slapping us in the face, beating us with sticks, stealing our wallets is called Microtransactions.
**** OFF with MICROTRANSACTIONS.
Just because half the Japanese/Chinese/Korean games do this does NOT mean it's a good model. This is the model for games that are on their dead beds. Games that have no development team left. Games that are DIEING!
MMO's started out with a monthly fee. They should STAY with a monthly fee.
This allows you to focus development dollars on CONTENT, and not millions of useless shiny bobbles for vain basement dwellers to pimp out their char's, that NO ONE SEE'S.
As for WIS it self, you guys are going about this backwards.
Start with STATION interiors. NOT captains quarters. THEN go to shops. THEN go to Bars. THEN go to ship customization. THEN go to barbie in space.
You guys want me to pimp my ride, before I have a drivers license, before I have a job. Before I have roads to drive on. Before I have insurance. Before I can buy gas. Before I even have the damned car.
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Garia666
T.H.U.G L.I.F.E Xenon-Empire
1
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Posted - 2011.10.06 06:28:00 -
[467] - Quote
I think this statement is weak. badly chosen words and looks like now CSM got what they wanted. specialy that goon fecker. Everyone can make mistakes true, But as an CEO you choose the direction what you think is best ( profit wise ) and when you feck up, you make sure it doesnt happen again.
At the start of 2003 you listen carefully of what the community had to say. As there a couple of people very smart who can help you overcome most obstacles. Bring that back.
And when you are about to release something.. then step away from it and think by your self how would the community react on that. What will they see?
Cause as you should know by now where a harsh fecking community.. loyal but dont feck with them. |
Node Crash
Schrodinger's Labs
0
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Posted - 2011.10.06 06:35:00 -
[468] - Quote
While encouraging, words are only words. And Hilmar's words carry less weight with the playerbase in than most after some of what's gone on.
Deeds, not words, Hilmar. Show me, don't tell me. |
boeboe joe
Helix Commonwealth Command Helix Commonwealth
0
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Posted - 2011.10.06 06:39:00 -
[469] - Quote
Thank you Hilmar, personally I have a lot of respect for you right now, if that means anything.
This explanation and honest apology, shows many I think, your commitment to the EVE community of how things are going to improve in and for CCP. But as you said actions will speak louder than words ever will the following months for the upcoming expansion. |
Ceapa Rosie
Dvice Shipyards
0
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Posted - 2011.10.06 06:43:00 -
[470] - Quote
Many people when reaching up high on the tide forget where they left from, is a very common mistake, very few realize this mistake and work on fixing it. Mr Hilmar Veigar P+¬tursson I sincerely congratulate you for your personal revelation and I am confident things will change for the better with EVE, it would be a shame to let decay something so wonderful and with so much potential as the EVE universe is.
Best of luck, and always remember where you started from. |
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Xavier Linx
Omni Research
2
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Posted - 2011.10.06 06:50:00 -
[471] - Quote
The tradition of begging the community for forgiveness runs strong in CCP. That is good.
When can we expect results?
I'm not talking about ship spinning or AUR. I am talking about actual game play, especially High sec and now low sec. I am talking about the failed PvP action that single mindedly focuses on fleet battle.
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Umbriele
Natural Inventions Solyaris Chtonium
1
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Posted - 2011.10.06 06:58:00 -
[472] - Quote
Remove PLEX.
I shall restart to give CCP real money for my two accounts, a thing I am not doing since 4 years. |
Ender Sai
Foetus Mart
2
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Posted - 2011.10.06 07:06:00 -
[473] - Quote
Normally I would be enclined to rabble and demand "moar pewper".
But instead I did shed a small tear.
I shall attend a small vigil in the Hilmar system as a sign of respect for this awesome post. |
Zotog
Zoop Roids
0
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Posted - 2011.10.06 07:14:00 -
[474] - Quote
Good to see some reflection and move back to the central theme of the game. Hopefully we will see more interaction with the community to gather development directions and options. As they say actions speak louder than words ... so I await your actions |
greeny knight
Solar Storm The Forsaken.
1
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Posted - 2011.10.06 07:15:00 -
[475] - Quote
wel it looks like an appoligy
as a long timeplayer - going hit 8 years in a few months , i see al the changes and my concern whas with the introduction of cappital class ships was its getting to big those are the i win ships . i'm right .
i saw the russian maffia take over 0.0 space with botting and rmt , i'm right , if you don't speak russian you are not in 0..0
i hear rumors that some ores gonna vanish in high and low sec and forcing miniers in 0.0 welcome to the renters making the russians richer ,
i hear when you jump into local you only apear after 30 sec , welcom to the killfest of ratters
i hear 0.0 space gonna get the same overview like wh space wel good luck perma cloackers
i hear the capitals ships gonna get a buff especialy the dreads so they can kill supercaps and they tracking improve , more i win attractive ships
o boy i love this game right (sarcastic) o boy i love ccp right (sarcastic) mm suk is comming i guess we all gonna be forced on the planet under the protection out of space from the russians
mm they have the i win button its called the great game eve-online (not sarcastic) |
Evan Skalder
Deviance Cartel Hedonistic Imperative
0
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Posted - 2011.10.06 07:17:00 -
[476] - Quote
Most of us would find it difficult to apologise to our significant other/loved one/person who cares. Hilmar has just eaten humble pie in front of an anonymous crowd. That alone says great things and I look forward to awesome unleashed.
A small point to consider in the new found direction. EVE is not like any other MMO. People find EVE after being unhappy in various other MMOs, they try new shiny ones and come back to EVE, because the new MMO doesn't fit. When multi-MMO'ing, it is the other MMO that eventually gets the boot, not EVE. The EVE community are the people who are not catered for in other MMOs. As such, the metrics gathered in other MMOs cannot be translated into EVE just like that. I suspect that some metrics are completely irrelevant to EVE and some EVE metrics would be equally irrelevant in other MMOs. I concede that this is my impression and that I have no hard data to back that up.
That might sound elitist, but, well, this is EVE. |
Inspiration
Focused Radical Energy Engineering
0
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Posted - 2011.10.06 07:20:00 -
[477] - Quote
I accept the sincere looking apology,
When the new features/content arrive this winter, I will determine if I can have fun again in EVE. Till then I will be engaged elsewhere for sure, doing nothing but skill training. Hopefully old friends will still be there when I come back and not also entangles in a EVE midlife crisis.
Make no mistake, the improvements must be engaging enough to drag players like me a few patches along to the next entertainment level to kick in. I have been grinding for wealth for so long now, that I truly need something else I can enjoy. Just adding more wealth in anticipation just doesn't cut it anymore for me.
Hope to see you soon in an Improved EVE on my PC :) |
Biff Rodgers
Null Sec Enterprises Fade 2 Black
0
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Posted - 2011.10.06 07:20:00 -
[478] - Quote
Hilmar's speach puts me at rest. No longer do I have the fear CCP is charging full steam ahead regardless of what the player base says. Thanks Hilmar, it's good to see that CCP can work with the players and come up with a lasting MMO. As a side note. While the graphics is wonderful, much time and effort has been but into it. Is there now a time to look over the game play? Game play is more often than not more important than graphics? yes? So long as the graphics are ok, but with EVE the graphics are already awesome. |
Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
11
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Posted - 2011.10.06 07:26:00 -
[479] - Quote
Thank you Hilmar.
You just earnt yourself my two subscriptions for the forseeable future.
Its this direction and working with your player community that is going to make Eve stronger and greater!
Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer / SpaceBum In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. |
Nyag
Noctiscion The Phoenix. Consortium
0
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Posted - 2011.10.06 07:31:00 -
[480] - Quote
Maybe I read a different blog?
I got the stuff about being too arrogant to listen etc and acknowledging the fact that mistakes have been made is always a good step.
Then I get to to the other bits;
Yes we did some stuff that we said was great but it's pretty poor because it's unfinished and kind of pointless without the rest of it.
But it was really good stuff
pointless and useless but REALLY great, industry leading, stuff.
then we move onto the Gold Ammo debate
"let me be blunt" it starts and then he caveats his words with a comment about, unless mmo's change radically.
A paragraph later he is saying MMO's are changing radically and monthly subscription is going. (Damn and I just renewed for 6 months)
So maybe this is an English translation thing and that I am taking note of stuff he doesn't know he's saying, but I doubt it.
so
No Pay to Win unless stuff changes a lot
Stuff is Changing a lot
So I start to wonder if this is how the CSM were lubed up over the debate. Lots of concilliatory noises, a few caveats dropped in, then all are happy. Except one set of folk know exactly what they are doing and are being deliberately misleading to avoid a confrontation on the issue.
So from a humble players point of view Helmar should have left those paragraphs out. If he wanted to deal with that he should have dealt with the whole fiasco of the "emergency summit", he didn't. If he wanted to make a clear statement he should avoid caveats and positioning , he didn't.
I read the first few paragraphs and thought, "He gets's it, he really does" then I read the rest and thought "he may get it but he has no intention of changing a thing"
I'm old enough to vote, one thing that really winds me up is spin.
However well intentioned this may have been it has the flavor of spin about it to me
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