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Chandaris
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
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Posted - 2012.12.06 04:48:00 -
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With the new tracking camera mechanics in Retribution, wielding your d-scanner just became a whole lot easier.
Stealth buff, or just plain awesomesauce? You be the judge.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jObKvVDJrSM&feature=plcp
Enjoy! |
Bronto Scorpio
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.12.06 04:54:00 -
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Jack Miton
Aperture Harmonics K162
922
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Posted - 2012.12.06 05:14:00 -
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Any and all targeted dscanning should be done from the solar system map view which is much easier and faster than this. |
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
493
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Posted - 2012.12.06 05:20:00 -
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Jack Miton wrote:Any and all targeted dscanning should be done from the solar system map view which is much easier and faster than this. nah, when searching fw plexes, station undocks, gates etc (ie seeing what ships are at a specific location rather than searching a system for a specific ship) this is really fast and easy |
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting The Paganism Alliance
145
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Posted - 2012.12.06 10:52:00 -
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I am already using the new features to great effect. It even works from warp while your camera tracks a celestial, which can't be done from the map. Kudos CCP, I love this change. |
Turelus
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve The Fourth District
72
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Posted - 2012.12.06 11:25:00 -
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Players will always find something CCP didn't expect... Neat though, thanks for sharing. "Don't count on others for help. In the end each of us is in this alone. The survivors are those who know how to look out for themselves." |
Borlag Crendraven
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
117
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Posted - 2012.12.06 11:36:00 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:Jack Miton wrote:Any and all targeted dscanning should be done from the solar system map view which is much easier and faster than this. nah, when searching fw plexes, station undocks, gates etc (ie seeing what ships are at a specific location rather than searching a system for a specific ship) this is really fast and easy
You can change the direction of the dscan from that solar system map much quicker, which is what Jack was talking about. Highly recommend giving it a try some time. Jack much like myself lives in a wormhole where dscanning isn't used just for hunting the prey, it's used literally non-stop no matter what you do. |
YuuKnow
Inner 5phere
468
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Posted - 2012.12.06 11:50:00 -
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Awesome. Works great.
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
5785
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Posted - 2012.12.06 11:57:00 -
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haha win
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Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
493
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Posted - 2012.12.06 12:32:00 -
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Borlag Crendraven wrote:You can change the direction of the dscan from that solar system map much quicker, which is what Jack was talking about. Highly recommend giving it a try some time. Jack much like myself lives in a wormhole where dscanning isn't used just for hunting the prey, it's used literally non-stop no matter what you do. The guy in the vid takes a while setting this up, but one it's set up (it's persistant) it's just
select plex/gate from overview > press C > move the slider to 5% scan
It takes three seconds. Overview even shows range in AU so you know what to aim at. Pressing F10, searching for the location of a gate or new plexes in an unfamiliar system, spinning the camera myself and twitching the mouse around to get the bracket in the centre of the screen is a lot slower. I can see how it would work with bookmarks but in Kspace I don't need to scan those very often |
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Borlag Crendraven
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
118
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Posted - 2012.12.06 12:35:00 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:Borlag Crendraven wrote:You can change the direction of the dscan from that solar system map much quicker, which is what Jack was talking about. Highly recommend giving it a try some time. Jack much like myself lives in a wormhole where dscanning isn't used just for hunting the prey, it's used literally non-stop no matter what you do. The guy in the vid takes a while setting this up, but one it's set up (it's persistant) it's just select plex/gate from overview > press C > move the slider to 5% scan It takes three seconds. Overview even shows range in AU so you know what to aim at. Pressing F10, searching for the location of a gate or new plexes in an unfamiliar system, spinning the camera myself and twitching the mouse around to get the bracket in the centre of the screen is a lot slower. I can see how it would work with bookmarks but in Kspace I don't need to scan those very often
The advantage of doing it in the solar system map, is that once you have run your ship scanner once, you can not only dscan the stuff shown on the overview, but also all of the anomalies, which to my understanding would also be of interest to people in nullsec where they are more than worth running.
All in all, as long as it works for you though, it doesn't really matter. |
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
493
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Posted - 2012.12.06 12:38:00 -
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That's an advantage, but to be honest, I've only really dones fighting in FW areas where any anomaly opened up will appear on overview without having to scan. That's deffo something I'll keep in mind in other places though, thankyou |
Julia Reave
Kihtaled Manufacturing Inc Black Core Alliance
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Posted - 2012.12.06 12:46:00 -
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Nice one :) Thanks! |
Inquisitor Kitchner
Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes
580
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Posted - 2012.12.06 12:46:00 -
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I suspect this wasn't intentional "If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli |
Chandaris
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
114
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Posted - 2012.12.06 13:16:00 -
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Doing it in warp: awesome, and I did not even think about that.
as for, vs doing it from the map scanner.. I view this as simply another part of the d-scan toolbox. There will always be a situation where doing it from your map makes more sense.. But in many scenarios this method is quicker
For example with my method you cannot scan system-scanner results (sigs/anoms)..
As someone else mentioned, once you set the camera angle up once it is persistant and becomes quick.
CCP Patch notes indicate the mechanics of the camera will change slightly in this mornings patch. I hope it does not break this :) (I think it will probably just fix some bugginess surrounding the use of the 'c' key and how/when the camera tracking mode engages.. won't know until I get home from work :) |
Arduemont
Rotten Legion Ops
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Posted - 2012.12.06 13:18:00 -
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I was kind of hoping no one would notice this. I've been doing this from day one. It's awesome. "In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." |
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting The Paganism Alliance
146
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Posted - 2012.12.06 13:23:00 -
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Arduemont wrote:I was kind of hoping no one would notice this. I've been doing this from day one. It's awesome. Ha ha... I even made a post about it, but it got swamped beneath topics about UI and Drone changes. It's true the map is still a usefull tool, checking out what's on an anomaly for example, since they can't be clicked in the overview or otherwise gain camera focus. I did notice the map control is more tight now, it takes considerable less fiddling to line up a celestial. |
Solomar Espersei
Quality Assurance
240
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Posted - 2012.12.06 13:30:00 -
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Damned awesome bit of tech there and a fine video to boot. Have some likes. Quality Assurance RECRUITING OPEN https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=176314&find=unread |
Chandaris
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
118
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Posted - 2012.12.06 19:00:00 -
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to be fair i was debating keeping this to myself too, but got sick of explaining it to every new alliance member who came on >_<
It's also pretty funny that several people are trying to tell me the old method is faster.. If you think it is, you're not comprehending the mechanics of this
anyways, glad some of you see the value of this.. ! |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
652
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Posted - 2012.12.06 19:13:00 -
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Actually, the new camera mode was a stealth decloaking buff for interceptors....but who cares about things like that.... Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
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Chandaris
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
122
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Posted - 2012.12.06 19:15:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Actually, the new camera mode was a stealth decloaking buff for interceptors....but who cares about things like that....
Ooooo .. I had not considered that but you are 100% correct
:)
Though, you used to be able to maintain direction to target by mashing ctrl-alt-space immediately after they cloaked and you started to decelerate, provided you had already been moving towards target but yes, camer change makes that a bit easier as well. |
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CCP Orion
C C P C C P Alliance
64
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Posted - 2012.12.07 00:09:00 -
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During Buckingham testing i actually had a "d - scan" key binding which automatically does what you describe so well :) , i.e. centering the tracking point directly behind your ship. It didn't make it into the initial release, but it's on my backlog to put a "use tracking camera" option to the "d scanner control" So this mode is not totally unplanned ;) Senior Programmer - Team Pony Express EVE Online, CCP Games |
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Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
1462
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Posted - 2012.12.07 00:10:00 -
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That was a really good video. I learned something. Thanks OP!
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silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
139
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Posted - 2012.12.07 04:08:00 -
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CCP Orion wrote:... this mode is not totally unplanned ;) Now THAT is awesomesauce! Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing. |
fukier
Flatline.
233
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Posted - 2012.12.07 04:26:00 -
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so someone explain to me why is there is still local in null sec? At the end of the game both the pawn and the Queen go in the same box. |
Chandaris
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
125
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Posted - 2012.12.07 04:51:00 -
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CCP Orion wrote:During Buckingham testing i actually had a "d - scan" key binding which automatically does what you describe so well :) , i.e. centering the tracking point directly behind your ship. It didn't make it into the initial release, but it's on my backlog to put a "use tracking camera" option to the "d scanner control" So this mode is not totally unplanned ;)
That's pretty awesome ! |
Amitious Turkey
The Scope Gallente Federation
41
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Posted - 2012.12.07 05:48:00 -
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CCP Orion wrote: It didn't make it into the initial release, but it's on my backlog to put a "use tracking camera" option to the "d scanner control" So this mode is not totally unplanned ;)
\o/ d-scan just became a whole lot more awesome. I like to lick things.
Haunting the forums since 03. |
Mui Rose
Tri.City.Trading.Co
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Posted - 2012.12.07 05:48:00 -
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After coming out of tracking mode, lets say reset camera. Is anyone else getting some serious screen shake before the camera settles back down. Its almost enough to give me a seizure.
edit: i just realized it seems to be doing a 360 degree pan before going to normal view |
Qaidan Alenko
State War Academy Caldari State
872
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Posted - 2012.12.07 08:02:00 -
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First... great vid. Some handy info to have there, especially for a fledgling d-scanner as myself.
If a dev is still watching this... one thing I would like to see with the Tracking Camera is to be able to control when your camera looks at something. As the author of the vid stated, he had to double click the item in the overview... but for myself, all I need do is single click it. Personally I would prefer to have to double click, giving me the option to look or not look if I highlight something for the purposes of the Selected Item window.
Just a thought... provided I made sense there. Go ahead,,,, Get your Wham on!!!
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MotherMoon
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
1186
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Posted - 2012.12.07 09:16:00 -
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Mui Rose wrote:After coming out of tracking mode, lets say reset camera. Is anyone else getting some serious screen shake before the camera settles back down. Its almost enough to give me a seizure.
edit: i just realized it seems to be doing a 360 degree pan before going to normal view GIMBAL LOCK! NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!1 http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1206/scimi.jpg |
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