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Alizabeth Vea
Demon-War-Lords Fatal Ascension
5
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Posted - 2012.12.14 02:43:00 -
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This 'new order' is so pants on head stupid I don't even know where to begin. |
Katrina Oniseki
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
929
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Posted - 2012.12.14 03:01:00 -
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Alizabeth Vea wrote:This 'new order' is so pants on head stupid I don't even know where to begin.
Calling it 'pants on head stupid' is always a good place to begin.
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Misha M'Liena
Rainbow Waffe
1479
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Posted - 2012.12.14 03:05:00 -
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*Writes on calendar* I am actually agreeing with Katrina Oniseki. Will wonders never cease. Not as innocent as she appears.Gäó -á |
Alizabeth Vea
Demon-War-Lords Fatal Ascension
11
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Posted - 2012.12.14 03:17:00 -
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Oniseki agreeing with me? Cripes. |
M Lamia
All Web Investigations
11
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Posted - 2012.12.14 10:23:00 -
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Harry Willie wrote:Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote:John Caligan wrote:Highsec is a big place, my friend. And not all of it appreciates random people cutting into their profits. And if it gets bad enough, the powers that be might see fit to get involved.
We'll see where your Savior is, when that happens. The New Order has heard threats like this before. Sadly for those who propagate them, the unsaved miners are generally too lazy and apathetic to do anything about our movement, and prefer to send endless outraged letters to Concord. Needless to say, Concord doesn't seem to be particularly worried by these letters, especially considering the recent changes to bounty laws. Actually, the New New Order has already arrived in Kamio and has already starting mowing down the Knights. They don't get pay outs for dieing in a fire without a kill to go with it, so I'm thinking they will burn out soon when its too hard to kill an unarmed ship before getting blown up. Kainotomiu Ronuken is James 315 is Currin ... a known scammer. In the end I believe this guy will be disappearing with his 27 or more billion isk he's scammed from his shareholders so far. I can't wait for the other shoe to drop. The New New Order has started its cleaning of Kamio. Everyone is invited to attend. We've got about 22 corporations and organizations making their way there now. I don't think you will find great fights, but you will definitely find something to shoot. Gankers tend to flee when the other guy has guns. Take care and Long Live the New New Order and out with the Old Newb Order. Let's get to the job of actually cleaning up highsec.
Firstly, funds willingly donated to the New Order are not "scammed" isk. They were donations freely given. No one was asked to give isk in return for x, people donated because they support the Code.
Secondly, for all your bluster and threats, I've yet to see your pathetic rebel group actually do anything other than spam words at us. |
Caellach Marellus
Aideron Technologies
671
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Posted - 2012.12.14 10:33:00 -
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Rodj Blake wrote:I don't know much about this New Order, but I do know that they'll eventually Regret claiming all of highsec as their dominion.
They need to find True Faith and then they will be Touched by the Hand of God, but they probably won't do that and then we'll find that they won't be Here to Stay. They certainly won't set anyone's World in Motion.
Personally I think they lack the Substance to do so, they're more likely to go to the Republic where I'm sure they'll have a Fine Time in Molden Heath along with the other pirates who attack miners. Most likely they'll move after the weekend and set diplomacy with the local scum.
It'll be a Blue Monday. Enjoy your gaming.
http://northern-goblin.blogspot.com |
Galaxy Pig
Red Galaxy Persona Non Gratis
293
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Posted - 2012.12.16 00:02:00 -
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Greetings Intergalactic Summit, I am an Agent, as well as one of the Knights of the New Order. It would seem that several of you have misconceptions concerning the New Order and the means by which we exert power over Highsec. I can provide links to CONCORD-verified kill information on the law-enforcement engagements I have personally been involved with upon request. Last time I checked we were over the 40 billion ISK mark in terms of losses incurred due to violations of the code. The vast majority of the rebel ships lost were T2 mining vessels and Orcas (along with the pilots' capsules). Again, we can provide specific kill-information upon request, but make no mistake the New Order is the one legitimate authority in highsec, and has the power to enforce the laws of New Order territory. Though, fear not, we are a benign organization full of people working everyday to reform highsec for the better.
I am happy to offer my assistance with any further clarification. :) |
Wescro2
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.12.16 11:16:00 -
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Harry Willie wrote: Actually, the New New Order has already arrived in Kamio and has already starting mowing down the Knights.
Mowing them down with deadly carebear stares. |
TheGunslinger42
Bite Me inc Bitten.
694
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Posted - 2012.12.16 22:48:00 -
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Wescro2 wrote:Harry Willie wrote: Actually, the New New Order has already arrived in Kamio and has already starting mowing down the Knights.
Mowing them down with deadly carebear stares.
To be fair their stares are the strongest weapon they have because, you know, the thing about a carebear... he's got lifeless eyes. Black eyes. Like a doll's eyes. When he starts minin', doesn't seem to be living... until he gets ganked, and those black eyes roll over white and then... ah then you hear that terrible high-pitched screamin' and whinin' |
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
260
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Posted - 2012.12.17 10:47:00 -
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Bruno Mussolenth wrote:Those 10,000,000 ISK you are demanding from each miner may well go to a bounty placed on you. Definitely a better way to spend one's money.
Makes for a better movie, too.
This is probably why James315's personal bounty is well past the one billion ISK point already and he's currently in a corporation consisting of exactly himself.
Not that he doesn't have plenty of flunkies and alts doing his bidding, but it's obvious that there's already so much heat on him that he's being forced to lead through proxy. Rather than proudly serving under his banner they're scattered to the winds and working more or less independently to make smaller targets of themselves.
Which is, if you think about it, pretty much how any halfway sensible terrorist group operates - his included.
EvE Forum Bingo |
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TheGunslinger42
Bite Me inc Bitten.
696
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Posted - 2012.12.17 13:27:00 -
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Katran Luftschreck wrote:Bruno Mussolenth wrote:Those 10,000,000 ISK you are demanding from each miner may well go to a bounty placed on you. Definitely a better way to spend one's money. Makes for a better movie, too. This is probably why James315's personal bounty is well past the one billion ISK point already and he's currently in a corporation consisting of exactly himself. Not that he doesn't have plenty of flunkies and alts doing his bidding, but it's obvious that there's already so much heat on him that he's being forced to lead through proxy. Rather than proudly serving under his banner they're scattered to the winds and working more or less independently to make smaller targets of themselves. Which is, if you think about it, pretty much how any halfway sensible terrorist group operates - his included.
I've seen the saviour freely and proudly roaming Kamio and Halaima. He does not shy away from the challenges and threats posed to him, none of the New Order do. Spreading such blatantly false propaganda and attempting to label us as "terrorists" because we challenge your illegal, immoral bot-aspirancy is futile, no one falls for it. |
Tali Ambraelle
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
145
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Posted - 2012.12.17 17:20:00 -
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Excuse me but, what is a "bot" or a "carebear?" I've never heard of these terms. |
Kainotomiu Ronuken
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
236
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Posted - 2012.12.17 17:22:00 -
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Tali Ambraelle wrote:Excuse me but, what is a "bot" or a "carebear?" I've never heard of these terms. 'Carebear' is New Order terminology for a capsuleer who spends his (or her) time in solitary, peaceful conditions, relying on established government to protect them from anything they don't like.
As for 'bots' and 'alts', I can't help you there.
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Tali Ambraelle
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
145
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Posted - 2012.12.17 18:24:00 -
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Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote:Tali Ambraelle wrote:Excuse me but, what is a "bot" or a "carebear?" I've never heard of these terms. 'Carebear' is New Order terminology for a capsuleer who spends his (or her) time in solitary, peaceful conditions, relying on established government to protect them from anything they don't like. As for 'bots' and 'alts', I can't help you there.
And what is wrong with living in peaceful, solitary conditions?
I think your friend may need to be checked by a medical facility for a case of capsuleer dementia. |
the sybian
Double Dippers
0
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Posted - 2012.12.17 20:19:00 -
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NCMs (non compliant miners) need to purchase a miners permit from a Knight of the New Order. The cost is 10 mill praise be to James 315 Bringer of the Light and all the people said Amen. |
Misha M'Liena
Rainbow Waffe
1492
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Posted - 2012.12.17 22:30:00 -
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I have noticed the New order. And the effect a wardec has on your savior. He just disbands his corp and remakes it, Then claims victory. Nice touch. For a coward. Yup i said it.
Misha. Not as innocent as she appears.Gäó -á |
TheGunslinger42
Bite Me inc Bitten.
698
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Posted - 2012.12.17 22:46:00 -
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Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote:Tali Ambraelle wrote:Excuse me but, what is a "bot" or a "carebear?" I've never heard of these terms. 'Carebear' is New Order terminology for a capsuleer who spends his (or her) time in solitary, peaceful conditions, relying on established government to protect them from anything they don't like. As for 'bots' and 'alts', I can't help you there.
Bot is a colloquialism for capsuleers who have, or attempt to, replace parts (or all) of their own biological systems with automated systems and artificial intelligences. They either willingly replace their minds or they otherwise erode as a result of the procedures, they become mindless zombie like automatons. The New Order have studied many of these specimens, but we have yet to learn of their true intent. The obvious, short term effect they have is what they are doing to industrialists across new eden, who cannot compete with the tireless, inhuman drone scourge ravaging systems and leaving them desolate. |
Lin Suizei
Blood Ravens Tactical Group
8
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Posted - 2012.12.18 00:23:00 -
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Tali Ambraelle wrote:And what is wrong with living in peaceful, solitary conditions?
I think your friend may need to be checked by a medical facility for a case of capsuleer dementia.
Nothing is "wrong" with living in peaceful, solitary conditions. Miners who mine in accordance with the New Halaima Code of Conduct are free to spend as much time in peaceful, solitary conditions as they see fit. We offer this choice freely to all residents of high security space. While many have seen the light and now mine peacefully, uninterrupted by either bump or gank, many others continue to be belligerent undesirables in our space, and continue to violate the Code.
For these wayward souls, we have no remaining option but to destroy their ships. We do not wish them violence - indeed, we extend to them the offer of friendship - but they actively refuse to embrace the Order and it's Code, and in doing so, force us to strike them down. In this, we serve a similar role to CONCORD and the DED - both as protectors of high security space, and consequences for code violators.
Indeed, it is our enemies who require the services of a medical professional to check for capsuleer dementia - their actions more closely mimicing that of the rampant Drone or heavily-damaged True Slave than the capsuleer like you or I, Ms Ambraelle. Do your part for a better Highsec tomorrow - kill an AFK miner today! |
Lin Suizei
Blood Ravens Tactical Group
8
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Posted - 2012.12.18 00:48:00 -
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Misha M'Liena wrote:I have noticed the New order. And the effect a wardec has on your savior. He just disbands his corp and remakes it, Then claims victory. Nice touch. For a coward. Yup i said it.
Misha.
Misha,
Why do you argue that James 315 is a coward? This is clearly an untruth most vile.
When has James acted in a cowardly manner? Has James 315 ever hidden his ships from attack? From what I have seen, he (and many other Agents of the New Order) has flown his ships proudly and in the open. Never has he (or any other Agent) forbidden anyone from firing upon him if he disagrees - instead, it is our enemies who are afraid, afraid of the retaliation of CONCORD, afraid of their own failure, afraid of putting action behind their idle threats. Are such individuals even deserving of the name "capsuleer"?
How can you accuse James 315 of cowardice, when he proudly flies his ships in the open, while our enemies are consistently too afraid to attack the individual upon whom their vitriol is heaped?
Lin Do your part for a better Highsec tomorrow - kill an AFK miner today! |
Erika Mayne
Zantiu-Braun Corporation Zantiu-Braun Alliance
0
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Posted - 2012.12.21 01:38:00 -
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An update on the New Order's progress in the re-subjugation of Kamio: we have recently reached the milestone of 60 billion ISK in miner assets destroyed!
Truly, the reformation is unstoppable.
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Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
289
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Posted - 2012.12.21 07:16:00 -
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I've yet to see two of James315's flunkies in the same corp as each other, let alone his own. Does this surprise anyone? EvE Forum Bingo |
Shaalira D'arc
Quantum Cats Syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats
564
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Posted - 2012.12.21 08:27:00 -
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Capsuleers are, generally speaking, selfish in their wants, mercurial in their interests, and fluid in their loyalties and habits. Enforcing a long-lasting behavioral change upon a significant population of them - particularly the mass that dwells in the crowded space lanes of high-security space - promises to be an uphill battle. As such, the scope of the New Order's aims are, at the very least, ambitious.
While capsuleer organizations and associations are common, and their forms too numerous to count, the New Order's approach is certainly novel. From my limited understanding, the New Order does not rely on the traditional structures of corporation or alliance as defined by CONCORD legalese. Rather, it posits a Code of conduct that is both unifying and aspirational, while leaning heavily on a cult of personality revolving around the self-proclaimed savior of hi-sec, James315.
The growth of the New Order's influence is viral in nature. Independent action is encouraged, and one can qualify as an 'agent' simply by taking action that furthers the Code or spreads word of it. 'Compliant' capsuleers add references to the movement in their public GalNet profile, leading to further exposure.
In contour and tone, it resembles a mass movement. More disparagingly, it can be likened to a fad.
The success of such phenomena tends to depend on the charisma and force of personality of the lead figure. There is no doubt that the New Order depends upon the existence and activity of James315. For his part, the Savior produces a regular GalNet feed that provides a great deal of content. On any given day, one can expect several detailed updates on the trials, tribulations and successes of the New Order. This feed has grown quite popular, and the level of activity has much to do with that popularity.
Capsuleers, after all, love to be entertained. Being boring would be the greatest sin that such a movement can commit.
In short, entertaining and fascinating. I will be following the New Order's progress with some interest. |
Kainotomiu Ronuken
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
243
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Posted - 2012.12.21 09:21:00 -
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Katran Luftschreck wrote:I've yet to see two of James315's flunkies in the same corp as each other, let alone his own. Does this surprise anyone? Should it surprise anyone? As has been stated before, the New Order transcends corporations and alliances.
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Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
291
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Posted - 2012.12.21 15:26:00 -
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Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote:Should it surprise anyone? As has been stated before, the New Order transcends corporations and alliances.
Oh no, it's quite clever. If you were all in one place, say James315's own corp, then you'd be too easy to simply wardec. By spreading out all over you make it harder for people to track you down.
Independently operating cells has been the staple of proper terrorist organizations for over three thousand years. Why should your little terrorist organization be any different? I don't expect you to break away from such a proven strategy. It has merit.
EvE Forum Bingo |
Jess Wales
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.12.21 16:41:00 -
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James and his allusions as an Architect of a New Order is a complete Joke
He has zero effect on game play or the citizens of Eve
( Loser == James && Losers == New Order ) continues to the next line of Code, because he is, and they are.
Out / EOM
Wales
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Kainotomiu Ronuken
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
246
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Posted - 2012.12.21 17:07:00 -
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Katran Luftschreck wrote:Oh no, it's quite clever. If you were all in one place, say James315's own corp, then you'd be too easy to simply wardec. By spreading out all over you make it harder for people to track you down.
Independently operating cells has been the staple of proper terrorist organizations for over three thousand years. Why should your little terrorist organization be any different? I don't expect you to break away from such a proven strategy. It has merit.
Your comparison to terrorist organisations might have merit if we actually operated in independent cells. We don't. I am employed by Dreddit, while another Agent might be employed by the Zantiu-Braun Corporation. This does not mean that either Dreddit or Z-B Corp are affiliated with or subsidiaries of the New Order. Simply that some members are also Agents.
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admiral root
Red Galaxy Persona Non Gratis
280
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Posted - 2012.12.21 19:01:00 -
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Scherezad wrote: If CONCORD or one of the Empires wanted you to go away, you would do so.
Really? When did the empires finally overcome their fear of capsuleers and the power we wield? No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff |
Cynthia Gallente
Bio's Holdings Bio's Remnant.
1131
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Posted - 2012.12.21 19:21:00 -
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What exactly is it this "New Order" trying to accomplish? Post with your lickGäó |
Lazarus Jaeol
Hedion University Amarr Empire
3
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Posted - 2012.12.21 19:41:00 -
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admiral root wrote:Scherezad wrote: If CONCORD or one of the Empires wanted you to go away, you would do so. Really? When did the empires finally overcome their fear of capsuleers and the power we wield?
Open fire in Concord controlled space in the biggest ship you have, and see how easily they destroy it.
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Kainotomiu Ronuken
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
251
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Posted - 2012.12.21 19:44:00 -
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Cynthia Gallente wrote:What exactly is it this "New Order" trying to accomplish? May I refer you to the OP?
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