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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
10631
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Posted - 2012.12.08 20:33:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:No. I just find the staying aligned thig stupid and useless. What's stupid and useless about being able to instantly warp out? (Btw, no, being aligned does not mean GÇ£pointing at a gate or stationGÇ¥).
Oh, and it's entirely possible to mine while being aligned, especially if you get some help. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan. |
Diamond Bull
State War Academy Caldari State
37
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Posted - 2012.12.08 20:46:00 -
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The new bounties mechanic is catastrophically idiotic for a few reasons. However, it really doesn't change anything. Having a bounty on your head doesn't mean you can be killed any easier than before. The only people who will gank you are people who would gank you anyway. |
Darth Gustav
Interwebs Cooter Explosion Fatal Ascension
1829
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Posted - 2012.12.08 20:51:00 -
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Diamond Bull wrote:The new bounties mechanic is catastrophically idiotic for a few reasons. However, it really doesn't change anything. Having a bounty on your head doesn't mean you can be killed any easier than before. The only people who will gank you are people who would gank you anyway. I disagree. The threshold of profitability just increased on many, many miners.
Therefore more ganks will occur, and mining as a profession will increase in value.
Of course it will only be a value increase for successful miners, but if players pay attention that shouldn't really be a problem. He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1873
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Posted - 2012.12.09 20:46:00 -
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Darth Gustav wrote:Diamond Bull wrote:The new bounties mechanic is catastrophically idiotic for a few reasons. However, it really doesn't change anything. Having a bounty on your head doesn't mean you can be killed any easier than before. The only people who will gank you are people who would gank you anyway. I disagree. The threshold of profitability just increased on many, many miners. Therefore more ganks will occur, and mining as a profession will increase in value. Of course it will only be a value increase for successful miners, but if players pay attention that shouldn't really be a problem. Well being unsuccessful is it's own failure, but in EVE Online: Ganking 4 Bounties ... Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
251
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Posted - 2012.12.09 21:42:00 -
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How is this thread not locked by now? I mean what is ranting, trolling and all the other reasons that are cited in several threads that are 10 times better than this one but get locked, if not the shallow discussion by the always same people in this here?
"Also, your boobs " -á CCP Eterne, 2012
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Xearal
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
410
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Posted - 2012.12.09 23:08:00 -
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Lol OP, working as intended.. I'm an industrialist, and I got a billion isk bounty on my head ( well my alliance does anyway ).
Just means that I have to be carefull with killrights on me, and when I move stuff through potential ganker territory. But Oh wait, I did that BEFORE I got this bounty on my head.. gee, lucky me, I don't even need to adapt.
Meanwhile, several people who I've had a pet peeve against, and who I didn't have the means nor time to do some serious damage against, now have bounties going up in the hundreds of millions on them.. already several have been partially claimed. I hope they hurry up with the linking of the killmails in said bounty collections, I wanna see who did it and give them a big wet sloppy kiss. ( and possibly a good deal on replacement ships/modules and other shinies I manufacture/obtain )
Now my most prized possession in eve, my wallet, has become a deadly weapon!
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Red Teufel
Blackened Skies Nulli Secunda
112
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Posted - 2012.12.09 23:20:00 -
[277] - Quote
I'm making a cure-all from this thread and it's made of tears. Its rumored to cure all kinds of things such as ebola, aids, hiv, herpies, depression, bad looks, your height, baldness, ect. going for 500 mill a pop. |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1373
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Posted - 2012.12.10 00:03:00 -
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Ragnaarak wrote:So, going by all the replies thus far......merely existing in the game is an excuse for any pvp'er to put a bounty on you and that if they do u just have to live looking over your shoulder? And when natur runs its course and everyone in EVE has a bounty on them ...what then? will CCP add another cool feature like....hmmm lets see transferable kill rights? or maybe get rid of the hi sec status of all the inner core worlds.....wouldnt all you pvp'er love that?
I'm going to log in & place a bounty on your head for being a bad poster.
It's about time CCP stops catering to the lazy players with this sense of entitlement for fear of losing money. These aren't the people making the game better, these are the people wanting you to turn EVE in to a game that is like most other MMO's. |
loyalanon
The Conference Elite Zombie Ninja Space Bears
21
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Posted - 2012.12.10 05:59:00 -
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Whats his bounty up to now?????
ragnaraak |
Lady Katherine Devonshire
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
81
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Posted - 2012.12.10 07:05:00 -
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It should be obvious now to everyone that various nullsec CSM reps arranged for this new bounty system for the expressed purpose of allowing their superior, sov-generated income fountains to be used to eliminate their hisec mining competition. Rather than do the ganking directly themselves, they can simply throw money at it and let others do it for them.
Naturally they suffer no fear of reprisal, because they are placing their bounties through temporary alt characters, and regardless there is no way the disorganized mass of independent hisec miners can match them ISK for ISK should they choose to get into a bidding war with the nullsec alliances behind the movement.
In the end, this change is no different than any other: Another thinly veiled push by nullsec CSMs to drive more players out of hisec and into nullsec, where they can either bend their knees to their new overlords (it's all about the e-peen, after all) or be instantly reduced to cheap blob-feed. While this has always been the case with their agendas, this one in particular gives them the power to extend their projection of force into hisec areas that were previously beyond their grasp.
I would say that they obviously don't realize is that neither their desired results - more servants or more targets - are actually going to happen and in the end all that they are actually going to accomplish is for CCP to start losing subscribers. I would say this except that, in all likelihood, they do realize it and simply don't care. Such is the weight of their egos that they'd they rather have no game at all than bear the agonizing horror of a game where others are allowed to play how they want to.
So yes, the bounty system is indeed working as intended. The problem is that what was intended wasn't made obvious until it was too late. It was marketed as a way for those without good PvP skills to deal with all the bullies of EvE, but in reality it turned out to be nothing more than another tool for the bullies. EvE Forum Bingo |
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Darvaleth Sigma
Progressive State State Section 9
22
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Posted - 2012.12.10 07:16:00 -
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It's over 1 bil, and I'm adding to it!
Perhaps this was a giant troll and it was his plan all along? Give a man a match and you warm him for a day.
Set a man on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life! |
Arkady Vachon
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
88
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Posted - 2012.12.10 07:32:00 -
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Ragnaarak wrote:Bounty system is going out of control.
Woke up this morning to find that some person with a hatre for miners, and lets not forget "no miners no ships", decided to put bounty on all miners and their corps in the system we use.
Bounties need to be re addressed so that the person placing a bounty on an entity NEEDS a decent reason other than "Oh what the F**K, ive made a **** ton of ISK so why not use this new Griefing technique handed to me by the game makers".
Yes i know a bounty doesnt mean u can be attacked without concord intervention in hi sec but its yet another annoyance from those that only see EVE as another 1st person shooter.
Cheers for making the game a little less appealing to a person that likes the industrial side of the game.
Feh, I mine and do industrial stuff, and I don't find it to be making the game less appealing at all. Hell, put out bounties on your competitors! Someone mining your favorite pile of rocks? Put a price on his head! Someone undercut your market price or short you? Bounty on his head too.
Then again, my idea of a hostile takeover would be sending a team of Dusters in to hose down the enemy corporate boardroom in plasma fire and bullets.
Nothing Personal - Just Business...
Chaos Creates Content |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1374
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Posted - 2012.12.10 07:46:00 -
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Lady Katherine Devonshire wrote:It should be obvious now to everyone that various nullsec CSM reps arranged for this new bounty system for the expressed purpose of allowing their superior, sov-generated income fountains to be used to eliminate their hisec mining competition. Rather than do the ganking directly themselves, they can simply throw money at it and let others do it for them.
Naturally they suffer no fear of reprisal, because they are placing their bounties through temporary alt characters, and regardless there is no way the disorganized mass of independent hisec miners can match them ISK for ISK should they choose to get into a bidding war with the nullsec alliances behind the movement.
In the end, this change is no different than any other: Another thinly veiled push by nullsec CSMs to drive more players out of hisec and into nullsec, where they can either bend their knees to their new overlords (it's all about the e-peen, after all) or be instantly reduced to cheap blob-feed. While this has always been the case with their agendas, this one in particular gives them the power to extend their projection of force into hisec areas that were previously beyond their grasp.
I would say that they obviously don't realize is that neither their desired results - more servants or more targets - are actually going to happen and in the end all that they are actually going to accomplish is for CCP to start losing subscribers. I would say this except that, in all likelihood, they do realize it and simply don't care. Such is the weight of their egos that they'd they rather have no game at all than bear the agonizing horror of a game where others are allowed to play how they want to.
So yes, the bounty system is indeed working as intended. The problem is that what was intended wasn't made obvious until it was too late. It was marketed as a way for those without good PvP skills to deal with all the bullies of EvE, but in reality it turned out to be nothing more than another tool for the bullies.
People have been asking for bounty changes for years, this has very little to do with the CSM. People are just mad because they saw this new system as a way to get back at the big bad gankers, then got a shock when they realised we had already adapted for the changes weeks ago. It's about time CCP stops catering to the lazy players with this sense of entitlement for fear of losing money. These aren't the people making the game better, these are the people wanting you to turn EVE in to a game that is like most other MMO's. |
Angang Ostus
Shooting Red Crosses
7
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Posted - 2012.12.10 07:49:00 -
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Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:Ragnaarak wrote:Bounty system is going out of control.
Woke up this morning to find that some person with a hatre for miners, and lets not forget "no miners no ships", decided to put bounty on all miners and their corps in the system we use.
Bounties need to be re addressed so that the person placing a bounty on an entity NEEDS a decent reason I stopped there... Nope. Working as intended. This kind of change is NOT needed. You just want to be able to mine in perfect security and it isn't going to happen. If you don't like them putting bounties on you then you can turn right around and put bounties on him. I guarantee that if all you miners did that to him then he would end up with a much bigger bounty on his head than any of you have on yours. Also...since you clearly don't understand the mechanics...STILL...just because you have a bounty on your head doesn't mean anybody can just come kill you without CONCORD stepping in. They still need a kill right which can only be obtained if you do something illegal. I also put a bounty on you for making this thread.
roflmao! But yeah it shouldn't inconvenience a high sec miner. Gankers will get concorded all the same. The bounty on each of you would have to be fairly big to motivate a suicide gank on a Retriever. And if it's high enough that you think it might happen, just get in a shuttle and have your mate pop you iin low sec (or maybe being fleeted will do it too.) |
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra Gallente Federation
316
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Posted - 2012.12.10 07:51:00 -
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Angang Ostus wrote:Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:Ragnaarak wrote:Bounty system is going out of control.
Woke up this morning to find that some person with a hatre for miners, and lets not forget "no miners no ships", decided to put bounty on all miners and their corps in the system we use.
Bounties need to be re addressed so that the person placing a bounty on an entity NEEDS a decent reason I stopped there... Nope. Working as intended. This kind of change is NOT needed. You just want to be able to mine in perfect security and it isn't going to happen. If you don't like them putting bounties on you then you can turn right around and put bounties on him. I guarantee that if all you miners did that to him then he would end up with a much bigger bounty on his head than any of you have on yours. Also...since you clearly don't understand the mechanics...STILL...just because you have a bounty on your head doesn't mean anybody can just come kill you without CONCORD stepping in. They still need a kill right which can only be obtained if you do something illegal. I also put a bounty on you for making this thread. roflmao! But yeah it shouldn't inconvenience a high sec miner. Gankers will get concorded all the same. The bounty on each of you would have to be fairly big to motivate a suicide gank on a Retriever. And if it's high enough that you think it might happen, just get in a shuttle and have your mate pop you iin low sec (or maybe being fleeted will do it too.)
Shuttle = ~10,000 isk
Getting only ~2000 isk from a billion isk bouty = priceless
and also, pointless. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |
dexington
Push button receive bacon
255
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Posted - 2012.12.10 08:01:00 -
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Ragnaarak wrote:Bounties need to be re addressed so that the person placing a bounty on an entity NEEDS a decent reason other than "Oh what the F**K, ive made a **** ton of ISK so why not use this new Griefing technique handed to me by the game makers".
What is this talk about griefing?, putting bounties on poeple is how you show love in eve.
Putting a bounty on someone means nothing more then, "i have noticed you, and i think we should meet and get to know each other better", or it can be a secret admirer stalking you.
Now it's up to you to find this person and tell him what you think of his proposal. GÇ£The best way to keep something bad from happening is to see it ahead of time, and you can't see it if you refuse to face the possibility.GÇ¥ |
Caliph Muhammed
Carebear Clown Posse
319
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Posted - 2012.12.10 08:43:00 -
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Lady Katherine Devonshire wrote:It should be obvious now to everyone that various nullsec CSM reps arranged for this new bounty system for the expressed purpose of allowing their superior, sov-generated income fountains to be used to eliminate their hisec mining competition. Rather than do the ganking directly themselves, they can simply throw money at it and let others do it for them.
Naturally they suffer no fear of reprisal, because they are placing their bounties through temporary alt characters, and regardless there is no way the disorganized mass of independent hisec miners can match them ISK for ISK should they choose to get into a bidding war with the nullsec alliances behind the movement.
In the end, this change is no different than any other: Another thinly veiled push by nullsec CSMs to drive more players out of hisec and into nullsec, where they can either bend their knees to their new overlords (it's all about the e-peen, after all) or be instantly reduced to cheap blob-feed. While this has always been the case with their agendas, this one in particular gives them the power to extend their projection of force into hisec areas that were previously beyond their grasp.
I would say that they obviously don't realize is that neither their desired results - more servants or more targets - are actually going to happen and in the end all that they are actually going to accomplish is for CCP to start losing subscribers. I would say this except that, in all likelihood, they do realize it and simply don't care. Such is the weight of their egos that they'd they rather have no game at all than bear the agonizing horror of a game where others are allowed to play how they want to.
So yes, the bounty system is indeed working as intended. The problem is that what was intended wasn't made obvious until it was too late. It was marketed as a way for those without good PvP skills to deal with all the bullies of EvE, but in reality it turned out to be nothing more than another tool for the bullies.
Given the options ill take a EVE universe with 10000 people in total playing, 8k of which could be the 'swarm than the insinuated eternal tyranny of the "make it safer or we'll quit crew". If all the miners quit tomorrow and the price of ore skyrocketed i'd take my pvp skilled toon and start cross training mining to be one of the super tanked miners out there making a fortune. And I despise mining. But money talks. Most of the players that threaten to quit overstate their importance to the game.
EVE is designed to be a cold & harsh beast. Just because you make a miner toon doesn't entitle you to ever mine one single roid. It only entitles you to the right to. The bounty feature fits perfectly within EVEs universe and I for one welcome our new, mega billionaire, bounty overlords. |
GallowsCalibrator
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
122
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Posted - 2012.12.10 08:52:00 -
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Lady Katherine Devonshire wrote:It should be obvious now to everyone that various nullsec CSM reps arranged for this new bounty system for the expressed purpose of allowing their superior, sov-generated income fountains to be used to eliminate their hisec mining competition. Rather than do the ganking directly themselves, they can simply throw money at it and let others do it for them.
Naturally they suffer no fear of reprisal, because they are placing their bounties through temporary alt characters, and regardless there is no way the disorganized mass of independent hisec miners can match them ISK for ISK should they choose to get into a bidding war with the nullsec alliances behind the movement.
In the end, this change is no different than any other: Another thinly veiled push by nullsec CSMs to drive more players out of hisec and into nullsec, where they can either bend their knees to their new overlords (it's all about the e-peen, after all) or be instantly reduced to cheap blob-feed. While this has always been the case with their agendas, this one in particular gives them the power to extend their projection of force into hisec areas that were previously beyond their grasp.
I would say that they obviously don't realize is that neither their desired results - more servants or more targets - are actually going to happen and in the end all that they are actually going to accomplish is for CCP to start losing subscribers. I would say this except that, in all likelihood, they do realize it and simply don't care. Such is the weight of their egos that they'd they rather have no game at all than bear the agonizing horror of a game where others are allowed to play how they want to.
So yes, the bounty system is indeed working as intended. The problem is that what was intended wasn't made obvious until it was too late. It was marketed as a way for those without good PvP skills to deal with all the bullies of EvE, but in reality it turned out to be nothing more than another tool for the bullies.
Ahahahahahhahahahaha what is the conspiracy theory.
I should keep a checklist of horrible strawman arguments or flat out nutjob conspiracy links that these posts tick.
Shadowy CSM Overlords: Check Nullsec Agenda: Check CCP losing subscribers: Check My sandbox is the only right sandbox: Check PvP Bullies: Check
This post is the Fox News of GD.
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Frying Doom
Zat's Affiliated Traders
987
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Posted - 2012.12.10 09:20:00 -
[289] - Quote
GallowsCalibrator wrote:Lady Katherine Devonshire wrote:It should be obvious now to everyone that various nullsec CSM reps arranged for this new bounty system for the expressed purpose of allowing their superior, sov-generated income fountains to be used to eliminate their hisec mining competition. Rather than do the ganking directly themselves, they can simply throw money at it and let others do it for them.
Naturally they suffer no fear of reprisal, because they are placing their bounties through temporary alt characters, and regardless there is no way the disorganized mass of independent hisec miners can match them ISK for ISK should they choose to get into a bidding war with the nullsec alliances behind the movement.
In the end, this change is no different than any other: Another thinly veiled push by nullsec CSMs to drive more players out of hisec and into nullsec, where they can either bend their knees to their new overlords (it's all about the e-peen, after all) or be instantly reduced to cheap blob-feed. While this has always been the case with their agendas, this one in particular gives them the power to extend their projection of force into hisec areas that were previously beyond their grasp.
I would say that they obviously don't realize is that neither their desired results - more servants or more targets - are actually going to happen and in the end all that they are actually going to accomplish is for CCP to start losing subscribers. I would say this except that, in all likelihood, they do realize it and simply don't care. Such is the weight of their egos that they'd they rather have no game at all than bear the agonizing horror of a game where others are allowed to play how they want to.
So yes, the bounty system is indeed working as intended. The problem is that what was intended wasn't made obvious until it was too late. It was marketed as a way for those without good PvP skills to deal with all the bullies of EvE, but in reality it turned out to be nothing more than another tool for the bullies. Ahahahahahhahahahaha what is the conspiracy theory. I should keep a checklist of horrible strawman arguments or flat out nutjob conspiracy links that these posts tick. Shadowy CSM Overlords: Check Nullsec Agenda: Check CCP losing subscribers: Check My sandbox is the only right sandbox: Check PvP Bullies: Check This post is the Fox News of GD. I just dont know why the bounties on the Null sec corps are not higher.
It would make a good income stream for Null sec pilots as well as allowing people like Lady Katherine Devonshire to vent.
2 birds with one stone. Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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Andreus Ixiris
Mixed Metaphor
1246
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Posted - 2012.12.10 09:25:00 -
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Dudebro. It's cool. I'll solve all your problems for you. I'll get rid of the nasty griefer who's making your life terrible.
You'll need to put a bounty on him though. I don't work for free. Mane 614
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
5432
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Posted - 2012.12.10 09:25:00 -
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Darvaleth Sigma wrote:It's over 1 bil, and I'm adding to it!
Perhaps this was a giant troll and it was his plan all along?
Ya think? MatrixSkye Mk2: "Remember: You consent to unconsensual PVP the moment you press the "Undock" button." |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
5432
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Posted - 2012.12.10 09:30:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:GallowsCalibrator wrote:Lady Katherine Devonshire wrote:It should be obvious now to everyone that various nullsec CSM reps arranged for this new bounty system for the expressed purpose of allowing their superior, sov-generated income fountains to be used to eliminate their hisec mining competition. Rather than do the ganking directly themselves, they can simply throw money at it and let others do it for them.
Naturally they suffer no fear of reprisal, because they are placing their bounties through temporary alt characters, and regardless there is no way the disorganized mass of independent hisec miners can match them ISK for ISK should they choose to get into a bidding war with the nullsec alliances behind the movement.
In the end, this change is no different than any other: Another thinly veiled push by nullsec CSMs to drive more players out of hisec and into nullsec, where they can either bend their knees to their new overlords (it's all about the e-peen, after all) or be instantly reduced to cheap blob-feed. While this has always been the case with their agendas, this one in particular gives them the power to extend their projection of force into hisec areas that were previously beyond their grasp.
I would say that they obviously don't realize is that neither their desired results - more servants or more targets - are actually going to happen and in the end all that they are actually going to accomplish is for CCP to start losing subscribers. I would say this except that, in all likelihood, they do realize it and simply don't care. Such is the weight of their egos that they'd they rather have no game at all than bear the agonizing horror of a game where others are allowed to play how they want to.
So yes, the bounty system is indeed working as intended. The problem is that what was intended wasn't made obvious until it was too late. It was marketed as a way for those without good PvP skills to deal with all the bullies of EvE, but in reality it turned out to be nothing more than another tool for the bullies. Ahahahahahhahahahaha what is the conspiracy theory. I should keep a checklist of horrible strawman arguments or flat out nutjob conspiracy links that these posts tick. Shadowy CSM Overlords: Check Nullsec Agenda: Check CCP losing subscribers: Check My sandbox is the only right sandbox: Check PvP Bullies: Check This post is the Fox News of GD. I just dont know why the bounties on the Null sec corps are not higher. It would make a good income stream for Null sec pilots as well as allowing people like Lady Katherine Devonshire to vent. 2 birds with one stone.
Because Lady Katherine Devonshire thinks that 1 mill is a pretty good bounty for shooting a player - after all it's a top bounty for a rat. MatrixSkye Mk2: "Remember: You consent to unconsensual PVP the moment you press the "Undock" button." |
Frying Doom
Zat's Affiliated Traders
987
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Posted - 2012.12.10 09:36:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Because Lady Katherine Devonshire thinks that 1 mill is a pretty good bounty for shooting a player - after all it's a top bounty for a rat. Must be a perspective thing.
Mine is at 310 mill and to be honest I don't know if I would go out of my way for that pittance. Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
5434
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Posted - 2012.12.10 09:37:00 -
[294] - Quote
Calling it now: this week's bear talking point will be
"CCP should totally put a bounty on corps with NEG-sec players in THERE SHOULD BE CONSEQUENCES FOR PIRACY" MatrixSkye Mk2: "Remember: You consent to unconsensual PVP the moment you press the "Undock" button." |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
5434
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Posted - 2012.12.10 09:38:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Malcanis wrote:Because Lady Katherine Devonshire thinks that 1 mill is a pretty good bounty for shooting a player - after all it's a top bounty for a rat. Must be a perspective thing. Mine is at 310 mill and to be honest I don't know if I would go out of my way for that pittance.
I'm not even at 4 mill, I need to up my game MatrixSkye Mk2: "Remember: You consent to unconsensual PVP the moment you press the "Undock" button." |
SaKoil
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
115
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Posted - 2012.12.10 09:52:00 -
[296] - Quote
Lady Katherine Devonshire wrote:It should be obvious now to everyone that various nullsec CSM reps arranged for this new bounty system for the expressed purpose of allowing their superior, sov-generated income fountains to be used to eliminate their hisec mining competition.
I admit, I laughed. They better spend all that ill-gained sov-generated isk before the end of the world next week though. |
TheGunslinger42
Bite Me inc Bitten.
660
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Posted - 2012.12.10 10:45:00 -
[297] - Quote
Ragnaarak wrote:Bounty system is going out of control.
Woke up this morning to find that some person with a hatre for miners, and lets not forget "no miners no ships", decided to put bounty on all miners and their corps in the system we use.
Bounties need to be re addressed so that the person placing a bounty on an entity NEEDS a decent reason other than "Oh what the F**K, ive made a **** ton of ISK so why not use this new Griefing technique handed to me by the game makers".
Yes i know a bounty doesnt mean u can be attacked without concord intervention in hi sec but its yet another annoyance from those that only see EVE as another 1st person shooter.
Cheers for making the game a little less appealing to a person that likes the industrial side of the game.
remember when miners used to smugly brag about how bounties would cripple the meanie heads who interfere with them
ahahahahahah
delicious tears. Throwing a few billion of my own into the bounty pool too because I can |
Kaylyis
No One Loves You Inc. LockJaw Inc.
48
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Posted - 2012.12.10 10:50:00 -
[298] - Quote
Read the OP, skipped to the end.
Education time if someone hasnt said it already.
Another indy corp wants you out of their belts, and wants to thin out their competition.
They are hoping the gankers will start drooling at indys in expensive mining ships that will pay out enough to replace lost dessies.
Welcome back to EVE. the bounty system was not created to make you feel safe. |
GallowsCalibrator
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
126
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Posted - 2012.12.10 10:53:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Frying Doom wrote:GallowsCalibrator wrote:Lady Katherine Devonshire wrote:It should be obvious now to everyone that various nullsec CSM reps arranged for this new bounty system for the expressed purpose of allowing their superior, sov-generated income fountains to be used to eliminate their hisec mining competition. Rather than do the ganking directly themselves, they can simply throw money at it and let others do it for them.
Naturally they suffer no fear of reprisal, because they are placing their bounties through temporary alt characters, and regardless there is no way the disorganized mass of independent hisec miners can match them ISK for ISK should they choose to get into a bidding war with the nullsec alliances behind the movement.
In the end, this change is no different than any other: Another thinly veiled push by nullsec CSMs to drive more players out of hisec and into nullsec, where they can either bend their knees to their new overlords (it's all about the e-peen, after all) or be instantly reduced to cheap blob-feed. While this has always been the case with their agendas, this one in particular gives them the power to extend their projection of force into hisec areas that were previously beyond their grasp.
I would say that they obviously don't realize is that neither their desired results - more servants or more targets - are actually going to happen and in the end all that they are actually going to accomplish is for CCP to start losing subscribers. I would say this except that, in all likelihood, they do realize it and simply don't care. Such is the weight of their egos that they'd they rather have no game at all than bear the agonizing horror of a game where others are allowed to play how they want to.
So yes, the bounty system is indeed working as intended. The problem is that what was intended wasn't made obvious until it was too late. It was marketed as a way for those without good PvP skills to deal with all the bullies of EvE, but in reality it turned out to be nothing more than another tool for the bullies. Ahahahahahhahahahaha what is the conspiracy theory. I should keep a checklist of horrible strawman arguments or flat out nutjob conspiracy links that these posts tick. Shadowy CSM Overlords: Check Nullsec Agenda: Check CCP losing subscribers: Check My sandbox is the only right sandbox: Check PvP Bullies: Check This post is the Fox News of GD. I just dont know why the bounties on the Null sec corps are not higher. It would make a good income stream for Null sec pilots as well as allowing people like Lady Katherine Devonshire to vent. 2 birds with one stone. Because Lady Katherine Devonshire thinks that 1 mill is a pretty good bounty for shooting a player - after all it's a top bounty for a rat.
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Posted - 2012.12.10 10:53:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Malcanis wrote:Because Lady Katherine Devonshire thinks that 1 mill is a pretty good bounty for shooting a player - after all it's a top bounty for a rat. Must be a perspective thing. Mine is at 310 mill and to be honest I don't know if I would go out of my way for that pittance. I'm not even at 4 mill, I need to up my game
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