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Bono One
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.12.06 22:20:00 -
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Just dropped a BPO off in a POS powered Advanced Research Lab, selected the slot, how much I wanted to improve the ME, accepted the quote and poof. Seems to have started. Don't see the BPO in storage anymore but what's odd is that I can't find any way to monitor the job. Not under Journal, the Research Lab doesn't seem to have an option to view research in progress.
I guess I could take another BPO and act like I am going to install it to see if it shows the line already in progress... But isn't there an easier way to see how much time is left before the BPO research finishes?
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Shaishi Otichoda
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2012.12.06 22:26:00 -
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Check corp jobs - i.e. select "My Corporation" as owner in "Jobs".
And for love of god, don't store the BPOs in the POS. Rent an office in the POS system and train "Scientific Networking". |
Bono One
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2012.12.06 22:43:00 -
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Don't see a "Jobs" tab anywhere. Checked the Control Tower, Research lab, under My Corporation. Expected most to find it under My Corporation. |
Bono One
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2012.12.06 22:44:00 -
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Woops, spoke too soon. Under Science & Industry and then drop down My Corporation. Sheesh, I better write this down. Hahah
Thank you!
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Styth spiting
Ion Corp. NightSong Directorate
112
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Posted - 2012.12.07 05:09:00 -
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Items placed in corporate hangars that are started as a job will show up as corporation. Basically any item in a station in the hangar, or any item in a POS structure (lab, adv lab, array, etc) will show up.
And yeah, you do not want to do what you are doing. never ever ever ever ever research a bpo at the pos. Keep it in station. This is up there with dont mine with your rorqual in belt, and or don't autopilot your freighter with 10b isk worth of items. |
Jarnis McPieksu
414
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Posted - 2012.12.07 11:13:00 -
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Styth spiting wrote:Items placed in corporate hangars that are started as a job will show up as corporation. Basically any item in a station in the hangar, or any item in a POS structure (lab, adv lab, array, etc) will show up.
And yeah, you do not want to do what you are doing. never ever ever ever ever research a bpo at the pos. Keep it in station. This is up there with dont mine with your rorqual in belt, and or don't autopilot your freighter with 10b isk worth of items.
Well some people like to leave billions of ISK floating at their POS for no good reason. Why stop them?
(Seriously, any POS research practically requires that you have an office on a station in the same system. Place BPOs there in corp hangar and research from there - you can use the POS labs for it while sitting in the station and keeping the BPOs perfectly safe. When doing it right, only way to lose 'em is by getting ganked when flying the BPOs into the station....)
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Bugsy VanHalen
Society of lost Souls
286
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Posted - 2012.12.07 15:37:00 -
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Judging from your issue you must be new to POS use. I'll try to explain what others have been calling you out on.
When you use POS labs to research BPO's any BPO's in the POS could drop as loot if the POS is destroyed. Another option is if you have a corp Office in a station in the same system as the POS you can keep the BPO's in the station.
If you have scientific networking you can research that BPO in any available slot in that system without moving it. Like a slot at your POS. You can do this for research and manufacturing. Only the consumables need to be in the POS array. When copying or manufacturing the outputs will also apear in the POS array. But the BPO's can stay safe in the station.
This is easier said then done however. Any system with affordable station rental fee's will most likely have no available moons. Like wise any system with available moons will not have a station with reasonable rental fee's.
High sec POS bashing is fairly rare. Many who see a POS with labs will just assume the BPO's are safe in a station unless the POS is in a system without a station. It is easy to verify this though. If you come across a POS with labs in a system and the owning corp does not have any offices in that system. (can be checked through corp info while examining the POS) Then you know any BPO's they are researching or using are in the POS. This makes the method you are using risky.
If the character you are posting with is in the corp that owns the POS you are speaking of then any potential POS basher only needs to search your corp or run a locator agent on you to find out where this POS full of BPO's is located. Your inquiry for advice may end up with your corp getting war deced.
The best advice I can give you is dispite what so many gankers and PVPers preach on the forums. When asking for such advice never post with your main character. you have three character slots on each account. Unless you are using them all as research alts, in which case you should be making enough isk to afford a office in your POSes system. You can use a alt with no skills trained as a forum alt. Personally I have several market alts who almost never leave their station. This character being one of them. This character is my main forum character. I very rarely ever post with another character. Yet you can not track down my active characters or the systems they work in thru this character. This character basically is used as a market alt sitting in Oursulaert to monitor pricing and occasionally buy and sell. He makes a good forum character.
Many players preach about posting with your main. All I can say is why? Posting with your main opens you up to grieving by any player who disagrees with you on the forums. Why risk it. You get no benefit from it. Your forum credibility has nothing to do with your main character. Especially if you play your main character as a pirate or ganker. My credibility on the forum comes from my posts and my knowledge of the game. Attaching that to a possibly unknown main character in the game does not benefit me in any way. But may come back on me if I get into a disagreement on the forums.
Your best bet for setting up a research POS in high sec is to find a system with a station you can afford to rent a office in. Then find a moon with a small dead POS on it. Hopefully you can find one belonging to a dead or very small corp. Bash the POS and throw up your POS in its place. You need about 4000 DPS to take down a small POS in about 1 hour. 2000 DPS will take you about 2.5 hours. This can be done with 4-6 Battleships with Decent skills. With good skills it is easy to get a battleship over 1000 DPS when not worried about a tank. If you have less than 4 characters or all your research alts have no combat skills then you may just have to buck it up and pay the higher rental in a system with open moons. |
LordSpock
Vherokior Death Squad
3
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Posted - 2012.12.07 15:44:00 -
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Bugsy VanHalen wrote: If the character you are posting with is in the corp that owns the POS you are speaking of then any potential POS basher only needs to search your corp or run a locator agent on you to find out where this POS full of BPO's is located. Your inquiry for advice may end up with your corp getting war deced.
Character is school of applied knowledge = NPC corp. However you are right about not posting with main in some cases especially if you have question making you vulnerable to being attacked. |
Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
789
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Posted - 2012.12.07 15:48:00 -
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Bugsy VanHalen wrote: Judging from your issue you must be new to POS use. I'll try to explain what others have been calling you out on.
When you use POS labs to research BPO's any BPO's in the POS could drop as loot if the POS is destroyed. Another option is if you have a corp Office in a station in the same system as the POS you can keep the BPO's in the station.
If you have scientific networking you can research that BPO in any available slot in that system without moving it. Like a slot at your POS. You can do this for research and manufacturing. Only the consumables need to be in the POS array. When copying or manufacturing the outputs will also apear in the POS array. But the BPO's can stay safe in the station.
This is easier said then done however. Any system with affordable station rental fee's will most likely have no available moons. Like wise any system with available moons will not have a station with reasonable rental fee's.
High sec POS bashing is fairly rare. Many who see a POS with labs will just assume the BPO's are safe in a station unless the POS is in a system without a station. It is easy to verify this though. If you come across a POS with labs in a system and the owning corp does not have any offices in that system. (can be checked through corp info while examining the POS) Then you know any BPO's they are researching or using are in the POS. This makes the method you are using risky.
If the character you are posting with is in the corp that owns the POS you are speaking of then any potential POS basher only needs to search your corp or run a locator agent on you to find out where this POS full of BPO's is located. Your inquiry for advice may end up with your corp getting war deced.
@ OP.... alternatively, you could just list every BPO in you are currently keeping in your POS..... That way, we can make an easy determination of whether or not Wardeccing you and destroying the POS is worth the time and effort.... |
Bono One
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2012.12.08 00:23:00 -
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Styth spiting wrote:Items placed in corporate hangars that are started as a job will show up as corporation. Basically any item in a station in the hangar, or any item in a POS structure (lab, adv lab, array, etc) will show up.
And yeah, you do not want to do what you are doing. never ever ever ever ever research a bpo at the pos. Keep it in station. This is up there with dont mine with your rorqual in belt, and or don't autopilot your freighter with 10b isk worth of items.
Yes I know, thank you. I was only making a quick copy for a corp mate. Normally we store the BPO's at a station and research them remotely, this was just a cheap BPO for a Noctis. Since the Noctis is cheap the BPO can't be worth much more.
Thanks for the help.
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Elena Thiesant
Sun Micro Systems
20
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Posted - 2012.12.08 08:35:00 -
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Bono One wrote:Since the Noctis is cheap the BPO can't be worth much more.
Roughly 650 million (based on minimum sell orders and contracts)
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Skippermonkey
Tactical Knightmare
1645
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Posted - 2012.12.10 15:35:00 -
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Elena Thiesant wrote:Bono One wrote:Since the Noctis is cheap the BPO can't be worth much more. Roughly 650 million (based on minimum sell orders and contracts)
And what price are they actually selling at?
Minimum sell order could mean little more than the price that people arent willing to purchase at COME AT ME BRO
I'LL JUST BE DOCKED IN THIS STATION |
Elena Thiesant
Sun Micro Systems
22
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Posted - 2012.12.10 17:57:00 -
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Skippermonkey wrote:Elena Thiesant wrote:Bono One wrote:Since the Noctis is cheap the BPO can't be worth much more. Roughly 650 million (based on minimum sell orders and contracts) And what price are they actually selling at? Minimum sell order could mean little more than the price that people arent willing to purchase at
Well their NPC price in the Outer Ring is 390 million, so you likely won't find one for less than that (unless someone's been careless or is desperate)
Region I'm in shows unresearched BPOs being bought at 500 million. Jita will likely be better to check. That's unresearched. You can search contracts for the researched ones. |
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