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Captain Africa
GRIM MARCH SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2012.12.10 08:20:00 -
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I really donGÇÖt understand why so many people including CCP is missing the ball on WIS. Forget about WIS the focus should be on expanding content and make space experience more exciting!
WIS is a problem for most people due to the fact that it doesnGÇÖt really contribute to anything and it doesnGÇÖt, no wonder it reached a dead end street. NOW WITH WIS OUT OF THE WAY lets have a look at something that will contribute a huge amount to character development and in dept play. FFS at some point in time you just get tired of mumble, team speak ...fleet blobs ,pvp and the whole social gathering of passionate pilots and you want to get into your 4x4 space ship and fly for the hills.
EVE SHOULD BE ABOUT SPACE MACHINES not just ships ! I beleive if CCP can include a personal crusade where you could lose yourself in corridors of wrecked stations , unimaginable hostile environments where you need a space MECH to explore decompressed NPC stations to save the damsel in distress we might just be back on track !
A very rough sketch of where CCP could take their so called WIS. A complete new class of space vessel ...Ladies and Gentleman I present to you the EVE SPACE MECH:
-4 Diffrent Racial Space MECH Divisions ....same as ships -You fit mods the same way as ships -Different classes MEGS for different situations.
The idea would be to accept a mission ,fly to dead space and instead of collecting mission items in containers you dock at the station you shot into structure. The whole idea would be to explore the station to look for mission items and other items of value that spawns inconsistent.
Back to the damsel .....so you shot all the baddies in their machariels , got the defences down of the small staion and broke the structure....this means it lost its pressure. The only way to explore the staion is with a MECH. You dock your ship ....WIS begins ...a small minigame where you walk to the MECH Bay and fit your MECH in ship. You fit your MECH and go through that GOD FORSAKEN DOOR !
Some stations you can dock with one ships some stations more ships ....I mean just let your imagination go ....sleeper sites can you imagine walking in an alien station somewhere in a wormhole with all the bad sh...that can happen to you. ....sounds ...alien monsters alien mechs ..the list goes on. Take it to a next level let players design their own interior stations with a construction tool set or whatever.
Now if i can do my work type a e-mail and come up with this shi....imagine what CCP can do ! Long live EVE long live CCP !
Want to add anything to this lets imagine scenario or what would be your idea of constructive WIS ? |
Thgil Goldcore
Advenus Classem
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Posted - 2012.12.10 08:22:00 -
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Man... now I wana bust out my old space hulk game... anyone wana play nids? |
dexington
Push button receive bacon
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Posted - 2012.12.10 08:24:00 -
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EVE SHOULD BE ABOUT SPACE MONKEYS... ccp could make a magic space banana you use to lure out the ever-elusive space monkey. GÇ£The best way to keep something bad from happening is to see it ahead of time, and you can't see it if you refuse to face the possibility.GÇ¥ |
Captain Africa
GRIM MARCH SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2012.12.10 08:43:00 -
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dexington wrote:EVE SHOULD BE ABOUT SPACE MONKEYS... ccp could make a magic space banana you use to lure out the ever-elusive space monkey.
He he he ... Il show you my banana somewhere in a wreaked space station.... only if you show me yours ! |
Pyre leFay
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.12.10 08:50:00 -
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Eve capsuleers are basically cyborgs. So who needs mechs? Pop in a cyber ninja implant and go grey wolf on some blood raiders. |
ACE OF DASPACE
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.12.10 09:38:00 -
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First you need to float this banana ... but yes this is the sort of WIS that makes sence to me. |
The VC's
Spack Force 5
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Posted - 2012.12.10 10:05:00 -
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iirc this was brought up at a csm meeting, they had some interesting ideas on how it would work. Mind you, it all smacks a bit of 'jesus feature'. The playerbase won't consider it until FiS is above reproach. |
terzslave
RedStar Enterprises RA Citizens
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Posted - 2012.12.10 11:22:00 -
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I much prefer the exotic dancers we saw in the demo of Incarna............... |
Stegas Tyrano
GLU CANU Open Space Consultancy
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Posted - 2012.12.10 13:02:00 -
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Hopefully they'll do it after they've fixed POS, so we can run around in POS with sirens and red lights going off when we get POS bashed
*boom**POS shakes**Sirens go off* Capsuleer 1: WE'RE UNDER ATTACK Capsuleer 2: QUICK, GRAB AS MANY EXOTIC DANCERS YOU CAN AND GTFO! |
Oberine Noriepa
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Posted - 2012.12.10 13:10:00 -
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Pyre leFay wrote:Eve capsuleers are basically cyborgs. So who needs mechs? Pop in a cyber ninja implant and go grey wolf on some blood raiders. Gray Fox |
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Captain Africa
GRIM MARCH SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2012.12.10 14:12:00 -
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Stegas Tyrano wrote:Hopefully they'll do it after they've fixed POS, so we can run around in POS with sirens and red lights going off when we get POS bashed *boom**POS shakes**Sirens go off* Capsuleer 1: WE'RE UNDER ATTACK Capsuleer 2: QUICK, GRAB AS MANY EXOTIC DANCERS YOU CAN AND GTFO!
He he he whooop whooop run Frostie run ! ...man i tell u were missing out big time. I donGÇÖt know why CCP get a third party game developer for the WIS section. Eve is such a cool game ...as it is , but I tell u with a bit more emersion especially if you want to take a break from your regular crew that would just kick ass.
I can definitely see myself and 2 or 3 buddies take on some alien sleepers to collect some random spawn artefact for a collector or to kill some drug lords and sell some very exotic drugs on the black market. So the whole idea is player vs NPC ...or a few players vs NPCS...as far as WIS goes..that means a lot less problems to solve ... as far as Eve system resources goes.
People tend to want the complete Eve ...sandbox itGÇÖs ok if youGÇÖre dealing with a limited amount of meshes but nearly impossible of your talking Eve character interaction level....I just donGÇÖt think were there technology wise yet.
I mean GÇ£EVE MEGSGÇ¥ is just an idea for WIS it could be anything. I like the idea of strapping a monster AUTO on my MEGGÇÖs shoulder and walk down a very dark ally in a decompressed station with lights flashing , dead bodies all over the place and overwhelming breaking structure noise to complete the WTF do we have here sensation ....The MEG idea is also nice in a way to know you have something onboard of your ship to dock on dark and empty stations and explore Eve on a different level...To have 50 new skins of MECHS added to current resources is nothing compared to having individual faces and expressions and movements of thousands and thousands of individual characters ..in Eve.
Different mods to open doors with ....on board fire extinguishers to get through burning rooms ....huge chainsaw to get through debris....rocket launchers , Neutron Blasters , Grenade launchers to annihilate enemy mercs or creatures.. thats the kind of Eve I would like to see in the future .
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Warde Guildencrantz
TunDraGon
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Posted - 2012.12.10 14:27:00 -
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it's important internet spaceships not important internet armored core
also, mechs are in dust, play that if you want them
all I want from WIS is exploring derelict stations/superstructures and a scan visor on my exploration suit to glean information from things in those stations |
Captain Africa
GRIM MARCH SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2012.12.10 14:46:00 -
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Oberine Noriepa wrote:Pyre leFay wrote:Eve capsuleers are basically cyborgs. So who needs mechs? Pop in a cyber ninja implant and go grey wolf on some blood raiders. Gray Fox
Nah babes not in my version of the game, you have drop suits for planets... besides thatGÇÖs for the Dust players. If you want to explore deep space where you have station debris falling on you , nasty alien creatures or drones crawling in deep dark corridors your clone body just wonGÇÖt be able to explore you need to get some serious armour ... with some serious gear. |
J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.12.10 14:50:00 -
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Now about meeting this damsel face to face .. would there be a pressurized compartment close by to have a quick .... chat ... with her? This is my signature. There are many others like it, but this one is mine.-á Without me, my signature is useless. Without my signature, I am useless |
Andreus Ixiris
Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2012.12.10 14:53:00 -
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It amuses me that people think Walking in Stations isn't going to be iterated upon. Mane 614
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Captain Africa
GRIM MARCH SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2012.12.10 14:59:00 -
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J3ssica Alba wrote:Now about meeting this damsel face to face .. would there be a pressurized compartment close by to have a quick .... chat ... with her?
Hell yea LOL ..recon the MEG will be big enough for some close encounters with "our little damsell" ..sit tight baby itGÇÖs going to be a rough ride ...because you will need so much less resources with a limited amount of meshes hence the MEG idea I donGÇÖt see the problem getting out of the MECH and kissing her goodbye once your back at the ship..The freeeken whole idea is to keep it simple and give us MEANINGFULL WIS ! |
Mirajane Cromwell
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Posted - 2012.12.10 15:05:00 -
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Check out Strike Suit Zero which is a space mech game. As you can see from the video (from 6:00mins) that kind of mech combat style wouldn't really work in Eve's space combat engine - we don't have that kind of fast controls. We'd need also a completely new ship class that is smaller than frigate so that these space mechs could fit into narrow corridors inside (sleeper) space stations - basically an exoskeleton that is wrapped around the pod and even that might be too big for station environments. Mech gameplay fits into Dust a lot better. |
Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.12.10 15:20:00 -
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omg guyz giant robotz r so kewl srsly TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |
Ranzabar
Vertical Ventures Unlimited Corp
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Posted - 2012.12.10 15:52:00 -
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I think I understand the Dust-derived marketing decision to integrate WIS. That Eve and Dust would be a unified experience within a cross-platform FPS and RTS enironment. But the mistake I think they're making is that they have a vision of an awesome Eve-based universe that most people won't fully experience. I know I'm not going to go out and buy an expensive PS3 that's for sure. The FPS game model doesn't interest me. I like the ship-centric Eve experience.
I'd like to see real development of other types of ships and equipment. Space and planetary structure builders, stations that high-sec miners can own, stuff like that. If I want to get out and walk around...poorly I might add, I'll buy Dust and a PS3...which I certainly will not.
Also, I'd love it if we could buy stuff to customize the looks our ships rather than buy a set of stupid boots or something.
CCP, you have to rethink this unified EVE world. The player demographics don't support your vision. Concentrate on development for two distinct markets. Abide |
Silivar Karkun
Electronic Research Team Ing
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Posted - 2012.12.10 18:19:00 -
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as a fan of this game, i say that the game has been mostly about the spaceships, and that is good, but i thinkg CCP could ahve created one of the more incredible sandbox game if it would allow other areas in the game.
i mean, you could do other things:
-landing on planets, and do several profestions like capsuleers do, defending, chasing criminals, doing agriculture, mining, exploration, comerce and other things. using several vessels and instruments (with a modular system similar to those of the spaceships and drop suits)
this would give a more important part to sov, since alliances would have to keep a protection on their planet and moon resources, and their cities. players who would live in the empires could have their residence in one of the planets.
in a nutshell: EVE-O is about the spaceships right now, but CCP could expand the game in other ways apart from being a capsuleer. WiSand DUST514 arent even the 5% of that. |
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Darvaleth Sigma
Progressive State State Section 9
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Posted - 2012.12.10 18:28:00 -
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Thgil Goldcore wrote:Man... now I wana bust out my old space hulk game... anyone wana play nids?
I'm not alone! This post made me happy.
EDIT: Now I'm misreading the title as "it's about SPACE MAHREENS!" Give a man a match and you warm him for a day.
Set a man on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life! |
Vertisce Soritenshi
Tactical Vendor of Services and Goods Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage
1894
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Posted - 2012.12.10 19:03:00 -
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Captain Africa wrote:I really donGÇÖt understand why so many people including CCP is missing the ball on WIS. Forget about WIS the focus should be on expanding content and make space experience more exciting!
I just stopped reading there because...no. Just no. And no...EVE is not about space machines. EVE is about the sandbox experience and happens to have a space theme. CCP has stated time and again that they want EVE to be the ultimate space sci-fi game. Can't do that without some sort of in-station, avatar gameplay. In other words...WiS. CCP will finish WiS so just get over it already. Bounties for all! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2279821#post2279821 |
Captain Africa
GRIM MARCH SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2012.12.10 20:08:00 -
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Mirajane Cromwell wrote:Check out Strike Suit Zero which is a space mech game. As you can see from the video (from 6:00mins) that kind of mech combat style wouldn't really work in Eve's space combat engine - we don't have that kind of fast controls. We'd need also a completely new ship class that is smaller than frigate so that these space mechs could fit into narrow corridors inside (sleeper) space stations - basically an exoskeleton that is wrapped around the pod and even that might be too big for station environments. Mech gameplay fits into Dust a lot better.
I took a peak at your vid not really what I have in mind ...the average size of the mech compares more to the mechs they used in the movie Avatar. Initially it would only be to explore NPC staions but yea the sky is the limmit. |
Captain Africa
GRIM MARCH SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2012.12.19 10:09:00 -
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