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Spaceman Jack
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.12.11 19:04:00 -
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I keep hearing about these "AFK cloakers" that attack people.
How does one attack when not at the keyboard? Is there a script for this? Is it a VNC? A mod? Special Ship? Is it CCP sanctioned?
I am very confused because I do not know how to do this thing where you scout people and kill them while AFK? I would love to be able to do that. Thanks. |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
703
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Posted - 2012.12.11 19:07:00 -
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Your appeal to the reasonable side of Anti-AFK cloakers peoples is useless as they dont use reason and are only mad in the first place becasue they are afraid of losing yet another bot ratting carrier or bot mining fleet to someone who was NOT AFK. Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1887
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Posted - 2012.12.11 19:07:00 -
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Is this another thread about afk cloaking?
Oh please, just nerf local already. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
951
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Posted - 2012.12.11 19:07:00 -
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The attack only occurs in the mind of the "victim".
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'no.' |
Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
1474
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Posted - 2012.12.11 19:09:00 -
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No.
When people talk about "AFK Cloakers", they aren't attacking AFK. An example of what they are talking about might be a stealth bomber pilot going into a nullsec system where a mining operation is taking place. The bomber pilot cloaks up at a safe spot, and then maybe goes to his shift at the quick-e-mart. 8 hours later the miners are back, having decided that the person cloaked up is inactive and that it's probably "safe". Quick-e-mart shift complete, the bomber pilot finds the miners toiling away, and deploys a bomb followed up w/ some missiles and the complacent mining vessels go pop-pop-pop. That's the gripe about AFK cloakers. They don't attack AFK... it's just their extended periods of being in the local channel yet unscannable means that safety in a system is always on a razors edge.
...the more you know.
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Rroff
The Xenodus Initiative. Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
72
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Posted - 2012.12.11 19:13:00 -
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Your completely misunderstanding the concept - probably deliberately.
No cloaks don't need a timer, fuel to run or player input to keep them on yada yada... tho on the flipside if someone has sov in null then IMO they should have tools to deal with long time cloaky ships in their systems via infrastructure upgrades - not something that would change the current nature of cloaking or decloak someone but some other way of giving those who live in the system some tools to deal with long term afk cloakies - not to the degree it takes the danger away this is null after all but so its better balanced. |
Yusef Yeasef Yosef
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
32
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Posted - 2012.12.11 19:15:00 -
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If there was no Local, they wouldn't even know they were there.
I wish modern battlefields had local. |
Mathrin
Synthetic Solution Synthetic Systems
7
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Posted - 2012.12.11 19:17:00 -
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Yusef Yeasef Yosef wrote:If there was no Local, they wouldn't even know they were there. I wish modern battlefields had local.
I wish they had MTACs. |
Bane Necran
Appono Astos
933
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Posted - 2012.12.11 19:21:00 -
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Doc Fury wrote:The attack only occurs in the mind of the "victim".
Mind Bullets?
"The nice thing about quotes is that they give us a nodding acquaintance with the originator which is often socially impressive." ~Kenneth Williams |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1888
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Posted - 2012.12.11 19:23:00 -
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Mathrin wrote:Yusef Yeasef Yosef wrote:If there was no Local, they wouldn't even know they were there. I wish modern battlefields had local. I wish they had MTACs. If it covered a whole solar system, we'd be smack talking people on "just" the other side of the world from here, and spamming them with explicit images and getting banned. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
703
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Posted - 2012.12.11 19:24:00 -
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I liked when local was broken and people stayed in local even when they were logged off. I had a laugh when i was camping a gate waiting for someone who had been logged off for an hour. It was the ultimate buff to AFK campers and the nullbear whiners were in overdrive and their precious bots wouldnt work right. Dont eliminate local CCP, just break it again! Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
HollyShocker 2inthestink
State War Academy Caldari State
68
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Posted - 2012.12.11 19:27:00 -
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Spaceman Jack wrote:I keep hearing about these "AFK cloakers" that attack people.
How does one attack when not at the keyboard? Is there a script for this? Is it a VNC? A mod? Special Ship? Is it CCP sanctioned?
I am very confused because I do not know how to do this thing where you scout people and kill them while AFK? I would love to be able to do that. Thanks.
Here we go again Maybe you missed the 5000 other post on the topic maybe your just trolling either way here is how a cloaker kills you. Let say you have a cloaker in system doesnt matter if he is afk or not that part is irrelevent. With said cloaker in your system if your a miner or mission runner you shouldnt really be doing either. They can find you and bookmark an item at your location without you knowing and then his/her buddies can insta warp to where you are. Even if your aligned chances are if they bring the right ships your going to lose yours. Just that simple. The cloaker killed you and didnt even have to uncloak to do it.
People arent looking to do away with stealth....I love my stealth ships. People want a way to scan down the cloaked camper or a active aggressive way to counter the camper thats not passive like leaving the system. |
Darwins Hammer
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
17
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Posted - 2012.12.11 19:37:00 -
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AFK cloakers are the best but if you play the game you understand pretty quickly which ones are dangerous and which ones are not.
This knowledge does not apply to nullbears.
Now you can add bounties to them as well you have another weapon at your disposal
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1888
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Posted - 2012.12.11 19:58:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:I liked when local was broken and people stayed in local even when they were logged off. I had a laugh when i was camping a gate waiting for someone who had been logged off for an hour. It was the ultimate buff to AFK campers and the nullbear whiners were in overdrive and their precious bots wouldnt work right. Dont eliminate local CCP, just break it again! This works as well, nerf local is general in what it calls for. As long as local becomes useless, that's just as good as removing it. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
951
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Posted - 2012.12.11 19:59:00 -
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Bane Necran wrote:Doc Fury wrote:The attack only occurs in the mind of the "victim".
Mind Bullets?
We were looking for 'psychological warfare', but we'll accept that.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'no.' |
Spaceman Jack
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
36
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Posted - 2012.12.11 20:15:00 -
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So.. is there a mod or notification that pops up to tell you when someone is AFK? If they are AFK, how do they attack. If they are attacking... why do you call them AFK? I don't get it... |
Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
1477
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Posted - 2012.12.11 20:18:00 -
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Spaceman Jack wrote:So.. is there a mod or notification that pops up to tell you when someone is AFK? If they are AFK, how do they attack. If they are attacking... why do you call them AFK? I don't get it... This has got to be bulls***. Your account goes back to 2003. Stop trolling toolbag.
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Skorpynekomimi
274
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Posted - 2012.12.11 20:20:00 -
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Bane Necran wrote:Doc Fury wrote:The attack only occurs in the mind of the "victim".
Mind Bullets?
That's telekinesis, kyle! |
Ditra Vorthran
State War Academy Caldari State
117
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Posted - 2012.12.11 20:22:00 -
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Miners get ridiculed if they mine afk.
Mission runners get ridiculed if they mission afk.
Griefers get applauded if they grief afk.
Double standard much?
Why don't we just remove all forms of afk play in the game?
If you want to play the game, sit down and play the game. "Miners mine so I don't have to." ~Metal Icarus |
Spaceman Jack
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
36
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Posted - 2012.12.11 20:24:00 -
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Gogela wrote:Spaceman Jack wrote:So.. is there a mod or notification that pops up to tell you when someone is AFK? If they are AFK, how do they attack. If they are attacking... why do you call them AFK? I don't get it... This has got to be bulls***. Your account goes back to 2003. Stop trolling toolbag.
On hand this may be considered a troll, since it is obviously obvious...
On the other had you have people claiming that pilots who are AFK are attacking them.
So if people are claiming delusions then normally trolled troll nullified. If people are claiming this to be true, then it deserves an explanation as to how. |
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Tesal
55
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Posted - 2012.12.11 20:25:00 -
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Spaceman Jack wrote:So.. is there a mod or notification that pops up to tell you when someone is AFK? If they are AFK, how do they attack. If they are attacking... why do you call them AFK? I don't get it...
If you don't know if they are really AFK or not you have to stop ratting or mining or run the risk that they are not really AFK and they uncloak on you, pop a cyno and a bomber gang gets bridged in and lands on your face and melts your ship. They call them AFK cloakers but they don't really know if they are AFK or not.
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Eli Green
The Arrow Project
105
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Posted - 2012.12.11 20:26:00 -
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Spaceman Jack wrote:Gogela wrote:Spaceman Jack wrote:So.. is there a mod or notification that pops up to tell you when someone is AFK? If they are AFK, how do they attack. If they are attacking... why do you call them AFK? I don't get it... This has got to be bulls***. Your account goes back to 2003. Stop trolling toolbag. On hand this may be considered a troll, since it is obviously obvious... On the other had you have people claiming that pilots who are AFK are attacking them. So if people are claiming delusions then normally trolled troll nullified. If people are claiming this to be true, then it deserves an explanation as to how.
wumbo |
Spaceman Jack
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
36
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Posted - 2012.12.11 20:31:00 -
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Tesal wrote:Spaceman Jack wrote:So.. is there a mod or notification that pops up to tell you when someone is AFK? If they are AFK, how do they attack. If they are attacking... why do you call them AFK? I don't get it... If you don't know if they are really AFK or not you have to stop ratting or mining or run the risk that they are not really AFK and they uncloak on you, pop a cyno and a bomber gang gets bridged in and lands on your face and melts your ship. They call them AFK cloakers but they don't really know if they are AFK or not.
So you dooooont know they are AFK is what you are saying. Just saying they are AFK for the sake of argument to "fix" it?
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Ditra Vorthran
State War Academy Caldari State
117
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Posted - 2012.12.11 20:33:00 -
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AFK cloakers are a myth. There are two types of cloaking griefers.
1) those who have melted your face 2) those who will eventually melt your face "Miners mine so I don't have to." ~Metal Icarus |
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor Cosmic Consortium
2222
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Posted - 2012.12.11 20:42:00 -
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This topic has been done to death.
GǪ-áand that's just the first dozen pages of search results for "AFK cloak", not including the non-English posts.
Day 0 advice for new players: Day 0 Advice for New Players |
Random Majere
Epsilon Lyr Nulli Secunda
39
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Posted - 2012.12.11 20:51:00 -
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Here is how an AFK cloacker "attacks" you. Like it was said in a earlier post, the afk cloacker gets into a null sec system, warps to a safe, cloacks and stays there for days. Slowly, you will notice the industry and/or military index of your system fall down to zero. That is how he "attacks" you AFK.
You can bait him...but he wont come because, the AFK cloacker does not want to kill your ship. He wants to lower your system`s index...AFK! Great type of playing right?
You can continue with your farming/mining but...you never know!!! maybe the cloacker is not AFK and....maybe its your ship he wants after all!! There is no way to tell.
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Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
1477
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Posted - 2012.12.11 20:55:00 -
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Spaceman Jack wrote:Gogela wrote:Spaceman Jack wrote:So.. is there a mod or notification that pops up to tell you when someone is AFK? If they are AFK, how do they attack. If they are attacking... why do you call them AFK? I don't get it... This has got to be bulls***. Your account goes back to 2003. Stop trolling toolbag. On hand this may be considered a troll, since it is obviously obvious... On the other had you have people claiming that pilots who are AFK are attacking them. So if people are claiming delusions then normally trolled troll nullified. If people are claiming this to be true, then it deserves an explanation as to how. If this thread is legit, which it is not, a far more interesting question would be 'how do you even exist in EvE?'
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Grimpak
Midnight Elites Echelon Rising
504
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Posted - 2012.12.11 21:27:00 -
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Random Majere wrote:You can continue with your farming/mining but...you never know!!! maybe the cloacker is not AFK and....maybe its your ship he wants after all!! There is no way to tell. but, if he's not AFK, then he's not an AFK cloaker, now is he? [img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]
[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right |
Spaceman Jack
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
37
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Posted - 2012.12.11 21:37:00 -
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Gogela wrote:If this thread is legit, which it is not, a far more interesting question would be 'how do you even exist in EvE?'
I've been AFK. |
Mire Stoude
Antelope with Night Vision Goggles
25
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Posted - 2012.12.11 21:38:00 -
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AFK attacking is when you warp to a target, lock it, hit orbit, start shooting then walk away from the keyboard. The more you know. |
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