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Tarvos Telesto
Blood Fanatics
137
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Posted - 2012.12.14 15:02:00 -
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Yes that whole hi sec hate is because freedom in Empire, carebears are free people, free form big corporations - alliance taxes and slavery, free form being slaves who works hard to hold territory and feed greedy over rich directors and alliance walets.
Be free, join Empire. EvE isn't game, its style of living. |
I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
210
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Posted - 2012.12.14 15:15:00 -
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Tarvos Telesto wrote:Whole hi sec hate is because freedom in Empire, carebears are free people, free form big corporations - alliance taxes and slavery, free form being slaves who works hard to hold territory and feed greedy over rich directors and alliance walets, open your eyes dont be a slave.
I have question for you, do you got any cent form high end moons? Haha :) No ! you cant even touch pos force field... haha :) owned.
Be free, join Empire.
I like your enthusiasm, so I will like your post for you. I expect it to be trolled to death, and end up being locked for lack of content or trolling. ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o )
The world would be a better place if boobies ran the world instead of boobs. |
Lady Ayeipsia
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
445
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Posted - 2012.12.14 15:15:00 -
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Form != from
Sorry, had to get that out there first. Secondly, you are over simplifying the matter. Not all alliances are high tax mor do all require constant cta presence. Many do not even require all accounts to be in the alliance. Additionally many alliances offer benefits that can compaire to the freedom available in a small high sec corp. Additionally, hi sec corps can have overly high taxes, annoying policies, and drama.
In fact, I would say that very little to none of the hate from nul players directed towards hi sec is derived from your suggestion. (that is the proper word, from).
The main part of the hate is simply an us vs them mentality. The nuls view hi sec dwellers as outsiders, which usually generates hate or disapproval. The same is true if hi sec dwellers looking at nul. It's just a part of how societies work.
And I think you will find that there are enough people who operate in both or neither, that by looking at all view points you can see an overall picture if eve and the beauty of the sandbox we offer.
As for your moon comment, what do you think pays for goon ship replacement? additionally, you do realize there is a cost associated with sov mechanics much like there is one for renting an office in hi sec. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1905
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Posted - 2012.12.14 15:18:00 -
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Lady Ayeipsia wrote:Not all alliances are high tax mor do all require constant cta presence. Many do not even require all accounts to be in the alliance. I certainly hope not. I mean out spais, highsec Jita alts, and, yes, our highsec afk ice mining mackinaws.... Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
baltec1
Bat Country
3294
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Posted - 2012.12.14 15:22:00 -
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I get free pvp ships and the ability to fly whatever I want in any fleet as well as access to the largest intel service in EVE and funding to go create content. |
Tarvos Telesto
Blood Fanatics
138
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Posted - 2012.12.14 15:26:00 -
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Lady Ayeipsia wrote:Form != from
Sorry, had to get that out there first. Secondly, you are over simplifying the matter. Not all alliances are high tax mor do all require constant cta presence. Many do not even require all accounts to be in the alliance. Additionally many alliances offer benefits that can compaire to the freedom available in a small high sec corp. Additionally, hi sec corps can have overly high taxes, annoying policies, and drama.
In fact, I would say that very little to none of the hate from nul players directed towards hi sec is derived from your suggestion. (that is the proper word, from).
The main part of the hate is simply an us vs them mentality. The nuls view hi sec dwellers as outsiders, which usually generates hate or disapproval. The same is true if hi sec dwellers looking at nul. It's just a part of how societies work.
And I think you will find that there are enough people who operate in both or neither, that by looking at all view points you can see an overall picture if eve and the beauty of the sandbox we offer.
As for your moon comment, what do you think pays for goon ship replacement? additionally, you do realize there is a cost associated with sov mechanics much like there is one for renting an office in hi sec.
Its only my view and my opinion, with current status most big alliances are overfeed, moons are infinity sources of infinity incomes, its posibble to bulid few titans per month only form top moon minerals incomes.... here is more inflation than needs.
But people dont know about this, and directors never teling to them truth, because they need slaves to boost more thier walets, this is my view about slavery.
EvE isn't game, its style of living. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
10668
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Posted - 2012.12.14 15:27:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:I get free pvp ships and the ability to fly whatever I want in any fleet as well as access to the largest intel service in EVE and funding to go create content. So more a wage slave than the classical kind? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan. |
baltec1
Bat Country
3295
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Posted - 2012.12.14 15:32:00 -
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Tippia wrote:baltec1 wrote:I get free pvp ships and the ability to fly whatever I want in any fleet as well as access to the largest intel service in EVE and funding to go create content. So more a wage slave than the classical kind?
Anything that pays me to do mad things with megathrons is good in my book |
Arkon Olacar
Imperial Guardians Tribal Band
182
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Posted - 2012.12.14 15:36:00 -
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Oh look, more informed opinions about null sec life from insignificant high sec publord #183743. "The rest will be in the blog rather than invented at the keyboards of forum posters and bloggers." -á-á-á-á-á-á-á - CCP Sreegs, 23/06/2012
Umad forum warriors? |
Tarvos Telesto
Blood Fanatics
140
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Posted - 2012.12.14 15:56:00 -
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I Love Boobies wrote:Tarvos Telesto wrote:Whole hi sec hate is because freedom in Empire, carebears are free people, free form big corporations - alliance taxes and slavery, free form being slaves who works hard to hold territory and feed greedy over rich directors and alliance walets, open your eyes dont be a slave.
I have question for you, do you got any cent form high end moons? Haha :) No ! you cant even touch pos force field... haha :) owned.
Be free, join Empire. I like your enthusiasm, so I will like your post for you. I expect it to be trolled to death, and end up being locked for lack of content or trolling. I like your post to. +1 EvE isn't game, its style of living. |
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Karn Dulake
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
1036
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Posted - 2012.12.14 16:53:00 -
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Tarvos Telesto wrote:Whole hi sec hate is because freedom in Empire, carebears are free people, free from big corporations - alliance taxes and slavery, free from being slaves who works hard to hold territory and feed greedy over rich directors and alliance walets, open your eyes dont be a slave.
I have question for you, do you got any cent form high end moons? Haha :) No ! you cant even touch pos force field... haha :) owned.
Be free, join Empire.
This could have been a good troll but it falled at the end and you betrayed your lack of age.
Try harder and people will bite more. I dont normally troll, but when i do i do it on General Discussion. |
Bump Truck
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
44
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Posted - 2012.12.14 17:00:00 -
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What does freedom mean?
I feel supported and aided by my bro's, the alliance tax is low and I get back more than I put in in free ships.
They help me out every day to do stuff and learn about the game, they took me on a DEDspace complex yesterday and we got a Bhaalgorn drop! I'm having to turn down all the ISK they're trying to give me protesting I didn't help very much.
I can go to highsec whenever I want, I'm there right now in fact, then I can podexpress back to the depths of null when I choose.
You say you're so free in highsec but are you free to leave? Or are you trapped behind it's borders for the whole time you play EVE?
Are you really free? |
Tarvos Telesto
Blood Fanatics
142
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Posted - 2012.12.14 17:29:00 -
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Karn Dulake wrote:Tarvos Telesto wrote:Whole hi sec hate is because freedom in Empire, carebears are free people, free from big corporations - alliance taxes and slavery, free from being slaves who works hard to hold territory and feed greedy over rich directors and alliance walets, open your eyes dont be a slave.
I have question for you, do you got any cent form high end moons? Haha :) No ! you cant even touch pos force field... haha :) owned.
Be free, join Empire. This could have been a good troll but it falled at the end and you betrayed your lack of age. Try harder and people will bite more.
Im serious, i dont troll people, its only my view, whole taxes and being parts of super rich aliances who give nothing are slavery, and nothing more, stop personal atack. EvE isn't game, its style of living. |
Robus Muvila
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
123
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Posted - 2012.12.14 17:45:00 -
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I this a troll... thread?
I honestly can't tell. http://themittani.com - Because EvE has needed a proper news site for ages |
Tarvos Telesto
Blood Fanatics
143
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Posted - 2012.12.14 17:48:00 -
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Robus Muvila wrote:I this a troll... thread? I honestly can't tell.
Not a troll, i can save you ! read it again ! think about your self and about your ally! chose! be free You are on good way. EvE isn't game, its style of living. |
No More Heroes
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1853
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Posted - 2012.12.14 17:50:00 -
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Tarvos Telesto wrote:Espetialy they are free from ideology that say you must socialise with others
So make a one man tax shelter corp, grind isk in highsec for no definable purpose other than watching a wallet balance climb and congratulate yourself for being a master of the universe?
. |
Tarvos Telesto
Blood Fanatics
143
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Posted - 2012.12.14 17:53:00 -
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No More Heroes wrote:Tarvos Telesto wrote:Espetialy they are free from ideology that say you must socialise with others So make a one man tax shelter corp, grind isk in highsec for no definable purpose other than watching a wallet balance climb and congratulate yourself for being a master of the universe?
Why ? here always some good ways to spent own money, i like spent my hard earned money on my self than paying somone who is horrible rich and greed. EvE isn't game, its style of living. |
No More Heroes
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1853
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Posted - 2012.12.14 18:24:00 -
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Tarvos Telesto wrote:No More Heroes wrote:Tarvos Telesto wrote:Espetialy they are free from ideology that say you must socialise with others So make a one man tax shelter corp, grind isk in highsec for no definable purpose other than watching a wallet balance climb and congratulate yourself for being a master of the universe? Why ? here always some good ways to spent own money, i like spent my hard earned money on my self than paying somone who is horrible rich and greed, espetialy for people who got abbility to bulid few titans per month but thier soliders need to spent week long on rating to buy gate blob ship to protect own greedy directors buissnes.
Pay? Who is paying anyone? I don't pay anybody. Sure theres a tax rate if I ratted but I haven't done that since I was like a month old. I make isk for modules and things by importing goods to our active warzones. I check my orders a few times a day and make billions. I get paid to pvp and lose ships. If I screenshotted my wallet right now there is hundreds of millions in corporate account withdrawls. It's called SRP. Ship replacement program.
If you're gonna make a terrible thread on a terrible forum do a little investigation first. Sure theres probably crooked directors out there that use their alliance to finance personal titans or dumb **** like that but they quickly crumble and die. The biggest and best worst alliances learned those lessons long ago. Just more misconceptions, fear and envy from pubdom . |
baltec1
Bat Country
3301
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Posted - 2012.12.14 18:26:00 -
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Tarvos Telesto wrote:
Why ? here always some good ways to spent own money, i like spent my hard earned money on my self than paying somone who is horrible rich and greed, espetialy for people who got abbility to bulid few titans per month but thier soliders need to spent week long on rating to buy gate blob ship to protect own greedy directors buissnes.
Let me tell you about the injustice of not spending a penny on pvp ships for months on end. |
Natsett Amuinn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
729
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Posted - 2012.12.14 18:30:00 -
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Stop being an attention *****.
Youl could have posted this in the other thread discussing the exact same thing. |
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YoYo NickyYo
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
78
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Posted - 2012.12.14 18:30:00 -
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Lady Ayeipsia wrote:Form != from
Sorry, had to get that out there first. Secondly, you are over simplifying the matter. Not all alliances are high tax mor do all require constant cta presence. Many do not even require all accounts to be in the alliance. Additionally many alliances offer benefits that can compaire to the freedom available in a small high sec corp. Additionally, hi sec corps can have overly high taxes, annoying policies, and drama.
In fact, I would say that very little to none of the hate from nul players directed towards hi sec is derived from your suggestion. (that is the proper word, from).
The main part of the hate is simply an us vs them mentality. The nuls view hi sec dwellers as outsiders, which usually generates hate or disapproval. The same is true if hi sec dwellers looking at nul. It's just a part of how societies work.
And I think you will find that there are enough people who operate in both or neither, that by looking at all view points you can see an overall picture if eve and the beauty of the sandbox we offer.
As for your moon comment, what do you think pays for goon ship replacement? additionally, you do realize there is a cost associated with sov mechanics much like there is one for renting an office in hi sec.
If an null alliance does not have required CTA's and taxes, either it ends up back in high-sec, or it holds space so bad that no one else wants it....
The exception being Team Tech, who have enough nuts stashed away to last them thru the next 5 winters.... "Working as intended" |
Arkon Olacar
Imperial Guardians Tribal Band
182
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Posted - 2012.12.14 18:41:00 -
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YoYo NickyYo wrote:If an null alliance does not have required CTA's and taxes, either it ends up back in high-sec, or it holds space so bad that no one else wants it.... The exception being Team Tech, who have enough nuts stashed away to last them thru the next 5 winters....
Might want to get some deodorant for your facts m8, cos they smell like you've just pulled them straight out your arse... "The rest will be in the blog rather than invented at the keyboards of forum posters and bloggers." -á-á-á-á-á-á-á - CCP Sreegs, 23/06/2012
Umad forum warriors? |
highonpop
Eve Liberation Force Fatal Ascension
406
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Posted - 2012.12.14 18:46:00 -
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Tarvos Telesto wrote:Whole hi sec hate is because freedom in Empire, carebears are free people, free from big corporations - alliance taxes and slavery, free from being slaves who works hard to hold territory and feed greedy over rich directors and alliance walets
Espetialy they are free from ideology that say you must socialise with others , EvE is about blob! they listen to nobody who force them to play like other want - in most cases- to being part of big community and socialize with everyone and working - paying - and being slaves of blob ideology... open your eyes dont be a slave.
I have question for you, do you got any cent form high end moons? Haha :) No ! you cant even touch pos force field... haha :) owned.
Be free, join Empire.
I chose freedom, so I chose nullsec. I like being able to shoot at you without the police shooting me. That is true freedom.
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Phil Da Agony
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
26
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Posted - 2012.12.15 17:14:00 -
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So if you-¦re so free why dont you fly into lowsec? You-¦re free right? |
Tul Breetai
Impromptu Asset Requisition Insurance Fraud.
58
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Posted - 2012.12.15 17:19:00 -
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0/10
Confirming nullsec doesn't hate on high cuz they're "jelly". There's nothing worse than an EVE player, generally considered to be top of the food chain in the MMO world, that cannot smacktalk with wit and coherency. |
Azriel Geist
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
67
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Posted - 2012.12.15 17:21:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:I get free pvp ships and the ability to fly whatever I want in any fleet as well as access to the largest intel service in EVE and funding to go create content.
They're calling it content now? That's rich. |
Frostys Virpio
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
108
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Posted - 2012.12.15 17:22:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Tarvos Telesto wrote:
Why ? here always some good ways to spent own money, i like spent my hard earned money on my self than paying somone who is horrible rich and greed, espetialy for people who got abbility to bulid few titans per month but thier soliders need to spent week long on rating to buy gate blob ship to protect own greedy directors buissnes.
Let me tell you about the injustice of not spending a penny on pvp ships for months on end.
How can you even sleep at night and not revolt under such an evil controling management and blatant missuse of ressources? |
Tarvos Telesto
Blood Fanatics
144
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Posted - 2012.12.15 19:46:00 -
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Phil Da Agony wrote:So if you-¦re so free why dont you fly into lowsec? You-¦re free right?
Your question make no sense for me, in your opinion low sec is freedom ? and people who dislike low sec -null never feel freedom ?
FYI. Ex pvp alt. Another of my characters Tarvos, pvp on occasion. Like you see i know what null space and low space mean i have some expirence on losing my ships (in fact im bad on pvp) Howeverr, hold on before you start judge random carebears. EvE isn't game, its style of living. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1914
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Posted - 2012.12.15 19:48:00 -
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Frostys Virpio wrote:baltec1 wrote:Tarvos Telesto wrote:Why ? here always some good ways to spent own money, i like spent my hard earned money on my self than paying somone who is horrible rich and greed, espetialy for people who got abbility to bulid few titans per month but thier soliders need to spent week long on rating to buy gate blob ship to protect own greedy directors buissnes. Let me tell you about the injustice of not spending a penny on pvp ships for months on end. How can you even sleep at night and not revolt under such an evil controling management and blatant missuse of ressources? I need to go and have some fun, I pay all these taxes but don't get blown up and thus don't get to feed off the reimbursements.
Maybe I'll join the next Boat fleet ~~ Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
Nylith Empyreal
Crowbar Industries. Rebel Alliance of New Eden
192
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Posted - 2012.12.15 19:52:00 -
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We're all slaves to CCP. "Oh, you can't help that," said the troll: "we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad." "How do you know I'm mad?" -ásaid the forumwarrior. "You must be," said the troll, "or you wouldn't have come here." |
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